Is this a positive or negative comment? Have your say.

which is kind of silly knowing that a bigger fact is not many of us (general public) know Michael personally and privately to be judging in any way without resorting to mere speculation (that includes both positive and negative in terms of personal life). his public offering is providing us with great entertainment and humanitarian aid and awareness - as long as people respect that then it's all good. i don't believe the comments in the OP are negative.
BOY that was powerful! My heart just skipped a beat!

This quote sums it all up for me:
"You must acquire the trick of ignoring those who do not like you. In my experience, those who do not like you fall into two categories: the stupid and the envious. The stupid will like you in five years time. The envious, never." --The Libertine.

Throw that at a so-called hater; then ask them what category they belong in.
 
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big ups to 'Logan' for his comments to the haterz and all the others that just Do Not Get It, when it comes to Michael Jackson.

Even if every tabloid article or twisted media headline ever reported was in fact, a FACT. That does nothing to deminish Michael Jackson's talents and accomplishments as an artist. **SNAP**
 
It's positive and blunt, I think. HE ain't the one saying MJ's lousy, he's saying "I don't care if YOU think he's lousy but he's a genius", etc., etc.
yeah exactly true... but honestly I couldn't say that. Would you?
I mean simply because I do care when someone thinks that, and simply cuz I can't see someone been judged like that. I can't/don't wanna get used to it and I don't wanna give anyone the slightest impression I'd only imply I'd be ok with it if they really think so. *shrugs* yeah it does make me feel at times like a overly sensitive moron :mello:... but well how to slip my skin :wacko: you know.


yep yep I know the world doesn't turn around me, I know that, it's just hard to accept at times! :lol:
 
I find it positive..

The qoute starts off rough, but it's done on purpose.. It's basically saying.. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OF HIM, HE IS..........

The quote is not saying he/she thinks of him that way. It's just taking what he/she knows others try to say about Michael and saying. Even if you think that way, you cannot deny..........................................
 
I find it positive..

The qoute starts off rough, but it's done on purpose.. It's basically saying.. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OF HIM, HE IS..........

The quote is not saying he/she thinks of him that way. It's just taking what he/she knows others try to say about Michael and saying. Even if you think that way, you cannot deny..........................................
That is just how I see it too KOPV:D
 
well the thing is, if it gets me in the right moment I am kind of proud it does bother me! lol
There are times when you realise that worrying is not going to stop the haters, esp when you know that they are only doing it for attention or to get a reaction from MJ or his fans. That is when I stop worrying and start ignoring. They hate to be ignored.:)
 
There are times when you realise that worrying is not going to stop the haters, esp when you know that they are only doing it for attention or to get a reaction from MJ or his fans. That is when I stop worrying and start ignoring. They hate to be ignored.:)
lol don't get me wrong, I don't worry... in general I do think it's their loss... when I'm proud this way it's more the pride to be different! ^_^
 
yeah exactly true... but honestly I couldn't say that. Would you?
I mean simply because I do care when someone thinks that, and simply cuz I can't see someone been judged like that. I can't/don't wanna get used to it and I don't wanna give anyone the slightest impression I'd only imply I'd be ok with it if they really think so. *shrugs* yeah it does make me feel at times like a overly sensitive moron :mello:... but well how to slip my skin :wacko: you know.


yep yep I know the world doesn't turn around me, I know that, it's just hard to accept at times! :lol:
My response (that usually works by the way) is "he is a creative genius. All genius' are different than what we think of as the norm. If they weren't they wouldn't be the geniuses they are." In a way that is moving a little bit in their direction while still being honest so I can get them to soften their opinion and see it in a different light.

The thing about the person who is replying is that they are not speaking to just one person. They are trying to reach as many of the people that are holding back as they can with their plea.

I don't know if I would be able to use their wording either... maybe I would if I thought is was the only way to find common ground, but I hear what you are saying.
 
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ookkay and also dont understand what the 'entire' article has to do with that comment. Even in the context of the article its' essentially saying the same thing. Its fine to think MJ is a lousy person but its vital that u except that he's a musical genius.

ANd this is being discussed in News & Mentionings thread 3/24.
Well Mechi thought it was a quote of something I said on the board. It kind of sounds like that for someone who wasn't involved in the original discussion.

And it does matter because of what it is responding to. The question was something to the effect of (paraphrasing) "with all the things that have been written or done to damage his image would you (or do you think people would) still like to see Michael on TV seeing as he is a genius."

Heck I could almost see it as a pr survey. So the writer responded to both the image and genius parts.
 
I think it's an alright comment. It seems like they finally get what it means to seperate the person and the person's talent.
 
My response (that usually works by the way) is "he is a creative genius. All genius' are different than what we think of as the norm. If they weren't they wouldn't be the geniuses they are." In a way that is moving a little bit in their direction while still being honest so I can get them to soften their opinion and see it in a different light.

The thing about the person who is replying is that they are not speaking to just one person. They are trying to reach as many of the people that are holding back as they can with their plea.

I don't know if I would be able to use their wording either... maybe I would if I thought is was the only way to find common ground, but I hear what you are saying.

You got that right, I was confused this was meant to come from you... only later when you gave the link to that thread I understood why there was this second name in front of the post.
It's all ok, I think I understand where the posting person is coming from.

On the other hand I didn't see any negative or hating comment there... so I don't know... I mean everyone was crazy and only asking them to show more more and more Michael Jackson on TV anyways it seemed. Or did they delete negative comments generally? Anyways as far as wanting to see Michael Jackson on TV I can only agree that I'd like more more and more Michael Jackson so far! :lol: I'd certainly like that.
 
It has a bit of both, but the positive part is def much bigger, the only negative is saying he might be a lousy human being, but it's not being stated, it's not an affirmation, it's just thrown in as a reference of how some people might think of him...IMO
 
whose comment are we commenting on? am i meant to know of this person?
 
Definatley positive. I thought that was really nice to read. :)

"As a music artist I feel he is very much UNDER APPRECIATED"

Definatley. :(
 
whose comment are we commenting on? am i meant to know of this person?
No. We don't. That is what was neat. I felt the replies to the article were all very pro MJ and it is not a fansite. Datsy just chose the one to discuss because some people felt that it was negative and others not.
 
I think the comment was positive, it’s a good thing if haters recognize Michael’s musical genius at least, since we can’t force them to open their minds and notice Michael’s goodness as a human being too.
But I don't think that we can simply separate his music from who he is. I believe every art is not just a gift from heaven but it has its roots in the artist’s life, their experiences, feelings etc. It is the most true and essential part of their lives. And in Michael’s case this connection is more obvious and visible than in case of any other artist I ever known. Michael’s true acts of love, kindness, understanding of other people, his whole perspective on life is an ART as well as his music.
It must be heartbreaking for Michael to know that most of his fans deny the the most important part of his identity by ignoring his more personal songs. When they say, for example, it was a big mistake to include Heal The World on their favourite album. I guess emotional content of this song seems to be too big challenge to comprehend it for people who never look for truth, freedom and love but stuck in the fear. It really astonishes me how some fans try to explain the presence of such songs as Childhood or Heal The World on Michael’s albums saying for example "we can’t blame Mchael for this awful song because he wrote it for children, so we don’t have to take it seriously at all… actually it should have been released as a separate single and not trash such important album”. I just don't know what to thinkabout it...
So I don’t think that lack of understanding of Michael as a human being can be compensated by recognizing his pure musical genius. Because when it comes to the songs containing some personal message it leads to automatic underrating their artistic value. I cant imagine that I could even try to understand someone's art having negative feelings towards the artist.
 
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