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blankyluvdoodoo said:
seriously when i saw DEEPAK CHOPARA ,i just skip ur post that name is less important ,just like any tabloid for mj fan.
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The rest of the post has nothing to do with Chopra or tabloids. But such irrational approaches of being quick to dismiss Anything that comes from a person that proved less credible are just irrational. Just seeing One's name, like they can't possibly ever say something right. 0_0 What he said about Jackson being active at night, writing music pretty much countradicts his and other ignorants' drug theories and shows Jackson's mind Was actually focused up until the day he died, no matter how hard a time he had; he was starting to buck up the last couple of days of his life at rehearsals, too, and just worked a lot all-round.

Your post is just disrespectful. If you wanna skip people's posts for they mean nothing to you, do so, read selectively, your right to do so, but don't get conspicuous about it.
 
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blankyluvdoodoo said:
seriously when i saw DEEPAK CHOPARA ,i just skip ur post that name is less important ,just like any tabloid for mj fan.
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Ha ha ha ....I did the same thing.

:clapping::clapping:
 
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whens the hearing about this. cant find the article in the thread. it was sometime in february
 
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I am very swayed by Kenny Ortega's testimony at the preliminary hearing. It has the ring of truth to me. Regardless of who hired who, they were all agreed on riding Michael hard and putting him back in the barn wet, with possible exception of Ortega, at least to a degree.

I also have a copy of the ad for 10 London shows. I saw a clip of tape where Frank DiLeo said he told Michael that it would take 50 shows to climb out of the financial hole.
 
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CatherineChicago said:
I am very swayed by Kenny Ortega's testimony at the preliminary hearing. It has the ring of truth to me. Regardless of who hired who, they were all agreed on riding Michael hard and putting him back in the barn wet, with possible exception of Ortega, at least to a degree.

I also have a copy of the ad for 10 London shows. I saw a clip of tape where Frank DiLeo said he told Michael that it would take 50 shows to climb out of the financial hole.
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Thanks... Yeah, there were 20 shows only which they, of course, claimed were 'testing the waters', which I personally don't believe for one second. Say he then got convinced to do 31. Just not 50, which sounded like hell really. And just when he started to feel more in charge and confident the last two days, a killer doctor takes his life, Doesn't fight to stop that from consuming itself, breaks the heart of his 3 children, and leaves other thousands of broken-hearted people worldwide. What kind of price one could pay for doing this much harm, this much physical and moral damage?

How fateful was the "This Is It" tour title, really? His own words at the rehearsals, or during the display of the new 'Earth Song" video. "Irreversible damage" is more blatant than in a too long a time, maybe centuries..Look at the world today, with thousands of birds and fish dying worldwide, and all scientists say about that is that it is Common? JFK political death sequels shocking the world again.. Who's Really behind all these masacres? Just some lonely deranged individuals, really? But I digress, many get so inflamed and are so quick to dismiss things like that, saying they belong in the conspiracy thread. Well, I've checked it a couple of times, posted twice, but Hoax theories are prevalent on there, members actually thinking Michael's alive and in hiding, so one's gotta post somewhere about sth this serious and very real, without having to Fear they're diverting from the topic that much that they need to Stop. This AEG suit isn't even on yet, maybe it will drop, (Murray's is, so it's very much understandable to be as unevasive and objective as possible), but in this acse, the plaints aren't even sufficient, as determined, and so people have the right to try to fill in some blanks the way they can, not say "Well, these aren't what the suit says, go to Conspiracy ". As in "the speculative loons den'. This is a discussion forum, not an 'aryanic' camp severing the 'diseased' from the 'clean'.

Wanted to point this out, because this attitude is simply exclusivistic and uncalled for, especially in such trying times like these, with a killer still out in the open, his license unsuspended, and many reliving the June 25 day. .......
 
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"I'm not broke. I just wrote someone a check for 500 million dollars. But when something is negative and it's a rumor, that's when it's blasted. I don't expect the press to say anything good." - Michael Jackson

terrell said:
Hear is my issue with this now; If MJ was sick on June 19, why in the world would Murray still be using this drug? It should have stopped right then instead on going on (it never should have been used in the first place). Even on that monday June 22, that nurse said MJ called her ant told her he was cold on one side and hot on the other side; again, if MJ was feeling like this, why was he still letting Murray treat him medical like that? I just do not get it.
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Either that was the first time Michael was administered the dangerous drug, or murray gave him too much that night.

Because it is quite odd that this patient who was recieving propofol for six weeks straight every night would recieve the side affects only once. Unless something like that is normal? I'll have to ask. However, I remember reading that recieving propofol all night would render Michael unable to perform the next morning. (Just like on June 19 only)

I would not trust cherilyn lee completely. She contradicts her own self, just like dileo. From what Dr. Patrick Treacy has mentioned about being offered big money to say untrue things, I wouldn't believe any of those medical professional's out there. (except Treacy and the ME's as witnesses for pros.).

There's also many, unanswered questions about Lee's appearance and story that must still be answered.

Also, we can't forget that rumor that Michael was about to fire murray...

Ortega wants to be removed as a defendant from who?
 
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kasume said:
Ortega wants to be removed as a defendant from who?
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Katherine sued him (named him as a defendant in her lawsuit) as well. he asks the judge to remove him as a defendant on the basis he had nothing to do with Michael's medical treatment and he's not an employee/representative of AEG. he filed legal documents.
 
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Just wanted to add that, when people of right think there was more than just one culprit in No way dismisses what Mr. Mur..der did. He administered what he did to Jackson and that Killed him, then showed an unimaginable disregard in saving his life, which is what cold-blooded murderers usually do: covering for their stains and lying to save their rear. He Directly killed Jackson, with that much evidence so far and he's still at large?. With the media Barely mentioning these prelims' devastating amounts of evidence against this fake doctor, he looks so priviliged. The news in my country only mentioned One prelim hearing, only, cause Jackson was an obvious victim in all this and that's not what the media wanna disseminate, Jackson is gone, now continue to assasinate him. And with bodyguard Alvarez too actually Helping him to hide the meds and anesthetics Before doing whatever it takes to save that helpless dying man out there shows he's an accomplice to murder. So what, if you confess you helped the killer cover for their tracks, then that absolves you from guilt? You don't help a desperate freak cover their traces, you scream and call 911 straight away. .......

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"Money is the Root of all Evil,", and when you follow the money in the case of the murder of Michael Jackson it leads you straight back to AEG and Sony.
 
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CherubimII said:
"Money is the Root of all Evil,", and when you follow the money in the case of the murder of Michael Jackson it leads you straight back to AEG and Sony.
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Agree. And if we follow the money behind the weapon used (propofol), it is AEG. They bought the weapon.
 
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kasume said:
Agree. And if we follow the money behind the weapon used (propofol), it is AEG. They bought the weapon.
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Has this been stated in the prelim. -- that AEG bought the propofol? If not, where is this statement coming from? What proof is there that AEG knowingly or unknowingly paid for the propofol?

CherubimII said:
"Money is the Root of all Evil,", and when you follow the money in the case of the murder of Michael Jackson it leads you straight back to AEG and Sony.
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I keep asking this but no one answers, so I will try again. What money has AEG made that they would not have made with the concerts? We can't say that Sony wouldn't have made money from some future project of Michael's because we can't say he would never work with them again. So, Sony benefited from his past and more recent projects. Why would they need to kill him to continue to benefit from such?

People need to start being more careful what they right and put out there without solid proof. It is one thing to have questions. It is another to make definitive statements that can't be supported with facts.
 
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classic said:
Has this been stated in the prelim. -- that AEG bought the propofol? If not, where is this statement coming from? What proof is there that AEG knowingly or unknowingly paid for the propofol?
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It was mentioned in the hearing today that murray paid for the propofol via the company's check. Forgot which witness it was though, need to check back at my notes.


People need to start being more careful what they right and put out there without solid proof. It is one thing to have questions. It is another to make definitive statements that can't be supported with facts.
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There are PLENTY of facts out there! However, if I lay them out here, I might get banned for going into conspiracy facts so publicly.

One thing I must say is, Fans need to stop disregarding Michael's own words.
 
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kasume said:
It was mentioned in the hearing today that murray paid for the propofol via the company's check. Forgot which witness it was though, need to check back at my notes.
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yes the pharmacist said order was paid by "company check" but company check doesn't automatically mean AEG check. It might be a check with one of Murray's clinics name on it - that would have been a "company check" as well.
 
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Hello,

kasume said:
There are PLENTY of facts out there! However, if I lay them out here, I might get banned for going into conspiracy facts so publicly.
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Are those facts in the conspiracy section of the the forum?
 
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ivy said:
yes the pharmacist said order was paid by "company check" but company check doesn't automatically mean AEG check. It might be a check with one of Murray's clinics name on it - that would have been a "company check" as well.
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Thank you for clearing that up ivy.

I don't recall ANYBODY ever saying that the items purchased from the pharmacy were paid for with an AEG check.

I do, however, believe that Murray was BILLED for the items and the items were then paid for using one of the accounts from either Murray's practice in Texas, or Las Vegas. Which would be standard practice, in my opinion.

It appears that "some" folks want AEG to be the blame so badly, that they are making up stuff to fit their agenda.
 
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I would think company check would be his clinics
 
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classic said:
Has this been stated in the prelim. -- that AEG bought the propofol? If not, where is this statement coming from? What proof is there that AEG knowingly or unknowingly paid for the propofol?



I keep asking this but no one answers, so I will try again. What money has AEG made that they would not have made with the concerts? We can't say that Sony wouldn't have made money from some future project of Michael's because we can't say he would never work with them again. So, Sony benefited from his past and more recent projects. Why would they need to kill him to continue to benefit from such?

People need to start being more careful what they right and put out there without solid proof. It is one thing to have questions. It is another to make definitive statements that can't be supported with facts.
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AEG's crime is more insidious. All of MJ's assets were leveraged on a loan they advanced to Michael.
 
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Yes ,,,Big Apple 2 ! agree with you .
 
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mijaons said:
All of MJ's assets were leveraged on a loan they advanced to Michael.
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Whatever was going on, Michael Jackson must have agreed to it, OR did AEG force Michael to sign those papers, yet couldn't FORCE Michael to sign Conrad Murray's contract.

OR maybe it's ALL fake, like the Will. LOL!
 
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why didn't MJ have folks like Londell McMillan representing him for these shows? Mike needed a good attorney and good folks looking after his best interest. Thome was shady, Murray was shady, just a lot of shady greedy people.
 
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StacyJ said:
why didn't MJ have folks like Londell McMillan representing him for these shows? Mike needed a good attorney and good folks looking after his best interest. Thome was shady, Murray was shady, just a lot of shady greedy people.
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Do we know for a fact that Londell McMillian was not ONE of the attorneys who looked over the contract in question. I seem to recall that there were MANY attorneys who looked over the documents before Michael signed them, but I don't recall ever seeing a "list" of names for those attorneys.

I "think" Londell McMillian and Michael were still on good terms during that time period, so who knows.

I'll tell you one thing, talking about Katherine's lawsuit. If I were her, I'd add that Las Vegas pharmacy to my lawsuit. I mean, after the testimony from yesterday, in my opinion, that pharmacy was very irresponsible in the way they dealt with Murray's request for drugs.

Sending drugs to somebody's apartment, just seems irresponsible to me. I mean, if Murray was associated with TWO medical offices, I would THINK that any drugs would have been sent there. If for nothing else, for the safety aspect of such a package.

Then there was the amount that Murray was requesting. I don't know for a fact how these things work, but I would THINK that a light would have gone off and somebody would have questioned Murray regarding the amount of his request.

Even if nothing came out of it, I would add their names just on principal!
 
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Big Apple2 said:
Whatever was going on, Michael Jackson must have agreed to it, OR did AEG force Michael to sign those papers, yet couldn't FORCE Michael to sign Conrad Murray's contract.

OR maybe it's ALL fake, like the Will. LOL!
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Well, hasn't Michael used his assets before as collatoral? Either way, it would be his decision.

But, also, I really don't think that it was that simple in terms of AEG taking all of Michael's assets as people are making it out to be.
 
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the thing is... the other day Michael had known that he would do 50 shows not 10... like he agreed he would.
that's bad... anyway... fair.
 
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Well, hasn't Michael used his assets before as collatoral?
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what else would u use as collatoral other than your assets
 
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Amy Jackson said:
the thing is... the other day Michael had known that he would do 50 shows not 10... like he agreed he would.
that's bad... anyway... fair.
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That's always going to be something we will never really know the truth on. Yes we had that video that myseriously got taken down, despite it being a fan video, no copyright infringement whatsoever. But on the other hand we have seen that contract that Michael signed stating that at least 29 shows must be done. So we'll never know for sure.
 
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18 shows was the minimum requirement
 
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Sophielo said:
That's always going to be something we will never really know the truth on. Yes we had that video that myseriously got taken down, despite it being a fan video, no copyright infringement whatsoever. But on the other hand we have seen that contract that Michael signed stating that at least 29 shows must be done. So we'll never know for sure.
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Right. We'll probably never know for sure. And yes, it was a fan video, probably taken unobtrusively on a cell phone or small camcorder? (the quality wasn't very sharp.) Audio was clear enough, though. Some of us on here saw it, but before anyone could capture it, it was taken down. Right. I don't see how there could have been any copyright infringement -- there was no music or anything like that -- just Michael talking to a small group of fans.

And yes, the contract. . . .
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
what else would u use as collatoral other than your assets
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I know that people use assets as collatoral. Not stupid. What is with the smart-alecky replies that people feel they have to give. Good grief!

My point was that people keep acting as if the catalogs, etc. have never been put up as collatoral before.
 
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