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This didn't do anything for me, sadly. I appreciate that for some people it might be new info but not for me. That said, I wouldn't have minded that if it was just a better programme. The editing was really weird. Was it edited down from a longer piece, I wonder? Bc 23 mins run time seemed a bit peculiar. Why not just do 30 mins? The basic concept wasn't really clear. It all felt a bit incoherent to me. Random statements were made that made no sense. Michael as a trailblazer for wearing a plain white t-shirt? That has been a fashion staple since forever. Michael rocks a white t-shirt really well but it's not innovative or particularly influential.
If Michael Bush's KoS book is going to be reprinted that's great bc I don't have a copy. But this was a very odd little video. I guess I would watch another episode although I can't really see where they can go next.
Michael as a trailblazer for wearing a plain white t-shirt? That has been a fashion staple since forever. Michael rocks a white t-shirt really well but it's not innovative or particularly influential.
That bit truly did my head in! wth? Look, I love Michael as a style icon as much as the next person and he absolutely has influenced fashion designers. But let's not talk nonsense. It doesn't do Michael any favours to make crazy comments like that.Haha yeah some parts of it were frankly embarrassing. They just seemed to grasp randomly at different items of clothing he wore and try to make false equivalences. 'Oh, the white shirt... you see white shirts now at job interviews".
Apparently so, lol.What are they going to say Michael redefined job interviews now?
That bit was even worse. Black biker jackets / leather jackets have been iconic since at least the 1950's. At least. James Dean. Marlon Brando. Peter Fonda in the 60's. I'm not expecting the roundtable to be a history lesson but, again, let's not invent wild tales that don't actually mean anything.Michael did a lot of stuff, but I don't think he had a noted impact in the area of job interviews. Then there was the "oh when I want to feel bad, I wear a black leather jacket, right".
oh god, the rhinestone bit. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry!And so did James Dean 20 years earlier. According to these people Michael invented rhinestones.
This was my main beef. It was too random, too incoherent, no depth and no real shape or direction. Forget nuance, just a hint of a direction would have been fine.It was an incredibly random slap together production that didn't explore the topic at any depth or with any real nuance.
I agree with all of this and a good episode can certainly be built around all of your comments. It was sadly lacking here, though.The only message I can take away is yes, Michael was quite adventurous with his attire and at some points, some people chose to emulate some of the choices he made. I am sure much more can be said for Michael and his iconic styles but none of it to be found in that 20 minutes of pure rot.
Definitely not arguing about how good Michael looks in a white t-shirt. But that's as far as it goes.
oh my god, so bold and innovative !!
lmao. but seriously, are we honestly surprised that this new video from the estate is really lackluster?? i'm not. and honestly, now I don't really care to watch it.
he is gorgeous in a white tee though. it's just... the epitome of natural masculinity that i always wish to have.
Exactly. If they had done a fast (but coherent) intro episode, making it clear that separate episodes for each era would follow, that would make some kind of sense. But it was all so jumbled, so badly edited ...At the very least they could've done an episode on each era...
Maybe but it would still have given this thing a bit of structure that it otherwise does not have.The era concept is fan baloney.
Yeah, I didn't catch the name he used but it def wasn't Band Wagon. Not the end of the world, maybe, but odd to make such a basic mistake. I personally think there may well be other influences in SC. I can see a bit of Guys and Dolls, for example. But it seems to be pretty well established that Band Wagon is the main (perhaps only?) influence. It just adds to the feeling that this roundtable was flung together madly quickly with not much thought.Branca didn't even get the correct Fred Astaire film I don't think. Smooth Criminal came from The Band Wagon.
In fact, I think he might have named an Elvis movie title!
Just went back to it. He named 'Girl Happy' whilst stills from Band Wagon are shown.Yeah, I didn't catch the name he used but it def wasn't Band Wagon.
Yes! That was it. Bonkers!Just went back to it. He named 'Girl Happy' whilst stills from Band Wagon are shown.
Girl Happy is indeed an Elvis film. Very random rookie mistake from everyone involved
They did? What else did they showI like how they show film footage from the Bad tour, the teasing is real .
This struck me as well, what is going on here? If they have the full show in 4K why bother with the ZDF source?3 minutes in and what has struck me already is that they used the 4K Billie Jean Munich footage, with the cool back angle during the moonwalk, which leaked last year.
Now they can’t say they restored it and never used it, right? :/
Edit: And one minute later, they use footage from the same show, but in significantly lower quality, and with the ZDF logo. Huh?
I noticed that. It confused me and annoyed me. They are basically doing a bang up job with this thing, lol.The fact they completely ignored the Dangerous era (as in not even talk about Dangerous) and referred to it as the grunge era
They surely must have downloaded them from the 2000watts subforumThis struck me as well, what is going on here? If they have the full show in 4K why bother with the ZDF source?