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Alma said:
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What I do appreciate about LaToya is her determination. She is wrong about quite a few things and often can speak more than needed and there are a lot of mind-boggling and exaggerated things she says, even blatantly false, but I can't judge her mental state after years of physical and mental and emotional abuse - one is bound to be shaken mentally, if not dead following this much ordeal, which I can't dismiss. A lot do, but fact is it existed, and such long-term torments and living hells are bound to make you unstable in certain ways. This book is very tacky, even beyond that... I do understand her need to get certain things off her chest and I will give her that. I don't agree, also, with her continuing to claim Murray was the scapegoat for her brother's death, and especially because there's a trial in September at the end of which he may very well walk free if more such claims are gonna keep on getting repeated - and he was in that room with her brother, and he overdosed her brother to death. Don't care about 'buttons' allegedly being pushed and what not... She should at least realize that this man, scapegoat or not, did administer those fatal doses to her brother and he was no child, but very greedy and allegedly an experienced cardiologist hired to take care of his very famous patient, and he did none of that that fateful night and day. ..

But what I will give her is that at least she is struggling and even fiercelessly so to defend her brother (in certain ways) - i.e. now, with firmly stating her brother was not delusional, not a drug addict (better late than never, I guess...), nor a loony or what not. I won't dismiss her conspiracy claims, because I know deep down, as well as others do that June 25 was not accident and not even if you try to convince yourself it was, you'll soon realize it couldn't have been. And just how much and how many would benefit from this death, and how disgusting his last months of life and out of control they were, that I wonder how he was able to still breathe... And by that, I hope ppl are not gonna say we're calling Michael a feeble, helpless kid anymore, because that's not what it's being said. It may be that LaToya is claiming that, but we're just sayin' how much he was tugged at from All sides.. and things.

I like it that she brought up more than suspect Randy Philips into discussion, that she stood up to these horrible interviewers from Good Day NY... notice how desperate they are to dismiss everything she says and so quick to even blatantly call her brother delusional, an addict and so on.. like, to her face. For her fierce approach, and for her now starting to sort of name names (like the people of his Estate, Philips) I even think she should be more careful, because those people are..or can be freakin' mental and dangerous, real mobsters that could stalk her and drive her crazy and maybe even do away with her, for getting this vocal lately. This isn't comedy relief, nor dramatization of facts.. She's at least getting better in some aspects that she's started to point out; no, I do not like many... many of her approaches, but again, I'll give her the above... and, I don't know.. Hope she's careful, the mass media themselves consist of organized criminals (through their mind control techniques and fallacies and exaggerations being put out...saliently so), a lot of heinous people out there that could do anything at all, like they did to Michael.
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At this point, her determination means squat to me. Those bringing about horrible accusations against Michael in the past were determined and didn't always have the greatest life experiences either. I can't say how much in or out of control his last months were and I doubt she can either without repeating what she has been told by others. When Michael was going through his trial, I made a point of looking at what was known and basing my opinion from that (nothing to do with being an MJ fan that I believed in his innocence) and the same goes for now. Explain who has gotten more from his death than would have been gotten if he was still living. No one ever puts the money trail out there that everyone is supposed to be following. If Michael was so confused, helpless, and controlled, then how come an auction that was not wanted by him didn't happen anyway? Or how could he have hired or fired anyone if so controlled (remember he was so afraid of Thome supposedly yet he fired him? Doesn't match.). And how did this controlled man manage to get this huge promoter to spend all this money on putting together this concert when no one thought it was going to happen? Why didn't everyone just walk away if he was that incapable of performing?

I would never say there wasn't a conspiracy and something more than what we know of happened. However, as I have said from the beginning I think people are very narrowed in vision when it comes to motivations and suspects.

Whatever the portrayal of Michael the media runs with now based on LaToya . . . well, I'm through with blaming the media when those who supposedly knew him so well continue to throw the tidbits to the media.
 
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Katherine said the same thing on Oprah:
Paris Jackson Tells Auntie La Toya: "I Want To*Die" - News - Rumor Fix

A shocking revelation from La Toya Jackson's new book Starting Over -- Michael's daughter, Paris, said, "Auntie La Toya, I want to die."

The 13-year-old was crying hysterically when she found out her father died two years ago Saturday.

"I want to be where Daddy is," Michael's oldest child told La Toya. "I don't want to live anymore. I just want to die. I don't want to be here anymore."

Paris also revealed that the King Of Pop told her "to be strong" the night before he died.

Paris and her younger brother Blanket has been arguing and Paris says, "He [Michael] told me, 'You're going to have to take care of Prince and Blanket if something ever happens to me. You're going to have to be the mother if something happens to me, Paris.'

Although the book reveals a lot about a secret man, La Toya tells RumorFix, "[Michael] would be very proud of me."
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I wanted La Toya to name names and she is now starting too. Because of pressure. I wanted to see who "they" she think are. Even though I kinda knew who she was probably gonna blame already. The same the rest of her family always blaming, AEG or/and Branca.

Hey...what about Thome? What a lucky guy. No one cares about him. The only person MJ is actually on tape saying he is trying to control him is completely getting ignored. WTF?

The interview Latoya did with FoxNY is stupid on both sides. We already know why on la toya's part. But, let's not give credit to the media for going after her either. Because they base their facts on saying MJ was addicted because of what other family members have said. So they pretty much are believing what they want and choosing sides. Nothing to be happy about their just as dumb!-_-
 
of course Thome Thome was on their ignore list, even Murray was a fall guy, bad luck in their eyes. their target has always been AEG and John Branca. it's so obvious, they wanted to remove Branca so they can get their hands on Michael's money, they sued AEG and hope to win the civil case to get more money. it's all about money since day one, they don't mind to portray Michael in such a negative way. damn, they had to make him be this delusional drug addict who was controlled and killed by AEG and Branca. that's the only way to help them get what they wanted and make themselves look good. if they really wanted to seek justice for Michael, more actions, less talk. oh, they had to talk to feed them.
I am so sorry for Michael.
 
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It's time John Branca took a stand. I hope he sues her ass too.
 
But, unfortunately the media won't discard the BS as a whole or call her out. The headlines seems as if once again they use just enough to portray Michael the way they want him to be seen instead of putting her on blast. It is sickening.

When Michael died, people had to face the fact that he was a great father, that his talent never ever slipped, etc. Yet how long did it take for those who supposed knew him well to chip away at that whether intentional or not. And LaToya needs to stop acting as if those children were so isolated and without any sort of life under Michael's care. It was called being a parent, LaToya!
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Agreed Classic. The damage has already been done, as I said in an earlier post. Latoya has no shame, she's only thinking of her gain. I have no sympathy for such greedy, selfish people.
 
bluetopez said:
Hey...what about Thome? What a lucky guy. No one cares about him. The only person MJ is actually on tape saying he is trying to control him is completely getting ignored. WTF?
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Good question. I really want to understand it. Why nobody of the family talks about Tohme (Hello Jermaine! :ciao:)? No journalist asked about it or who are "they". :sigh:
 
classic said:
At this point, her determination means squat to me. Those bringing about horrible accusations against Michael in the past were determined and didn't always have the greatest life experiences either. I can't say how much in or out of control his last months were and I doubt she can either without repeating what she has been told by others. When Michael was going through his trial, I made a point of looking at what was known and basing my opinion from that (nothing to do with being an MJ fan that I believed in his innocence) and the same goes for now. Explain who has gotten more from his death than would have been gotten if he was still living. No one ever puts the money trail out there that everyone is suppose
d to be following. If Michael was so confused, helpless, and controlled, then how come an auction that was not wanted by him
didn't happen anyway? Or how could he have hired or fired anyone if so controlled (remember he was so afraid of Thome

supposedly yet he fired him? Doesn't match.). And how did this controlled man manage to get this huge promoter to spend all
this money on putting together this concert when no one thought it was going to happen? Why didn't everyone just walk away
if he was that incapable of performing?
I would never say there wasn't a conspiracy and something more than what we know of happened.
However, as I have said from the beginning I think people are very narrowed in vision when it
comes to motivations and suspects.
Whatever the portrayal of Michael the media runs with now based on LaToya . . . well, I'm
through with blaming the media when those who supposedly knew him so well continue to throw
the tidbits to the media.
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You are right, listen out sooner or later Latoya is going to be blaming the meadia for twisting her words just like she Put all the blame on jack Gordon for throwing MJ under ther bus.

Question: Latoya say she could not leave jack because the beat her and take away her passport,
But correct me can't a USA citizen travel without a passport in the 90s?
And was Latoya living out side of the USA with jack?
 
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classic said:
Question: Supposedly aren't some claiming that if Michael didn't fulfill his obligations with AEG, then they could have taken everything including his catalog? And don't the claims include that he would have never been able to fulfill the obligations. But at the same time they are saying he was murdered for his money and catalog. So, what was the point of the murder conspiracy if they were already on the road to owning everything. This whole worth more in death than alive makes no sense; his estate and his children benefit from his property now.
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:) I argued this before. His loans was due in 2010. All they need to do was to not offer him any tours with chance to earn money and he could have defaulted on the loans. Some argue that AEG wanted the catalog so they offered Michael the tour with all the advances and when Michael couldn't perform, they would go and take his assets - catalog. Ok but there's one problem with that as KJ's lawsuit says AEG was reportedly pushing Michael to perform. The opposite of what the theory asks for. If they wanted to get his assets all they need to do was to sit down and watch Michael not attend rehearsals, do less shows than he signed for (10 versus 31) and then sue him for his assets. And 2 years after his death the catalog is still with the Estate.

Rhilo said:
It's time John Branca took a stand. I hope he sues her ass too.
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What exactly she said about Branca?

TheChosenOne said:
Some members of the public think it ludicrous that anyone would want to kill Michael. So LaToya's claims really seem outlandish.
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One of the issues I had for a long time how Michel was portrayed by his family and his friends. He was portrayed as this sick, addict and fearful person. In reality he was Michael F**cking Jackson. So it is ludicrous that anyone would want to kill him and it's also ludicrous to think that he would be so powerless.

KingMikeJ said:
La Toya's gonna make more money out of all these interviews she is suddenly doing than the sales of her book :lol:
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Big Apple2 said:
Seriously, no offense, but just how much money do you think a D-lister like LaToya would be paid for an interview?

If her book sales don't pick up, she will have to give back a portion of her advance. That's how it usually works, in my opinion.
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I believe she mentioned her appearance rates in the book. It's $50,000 or more.
 
loveforever said:
of course Thome Thome was on their ignore list, even Murray was a fall guy, bad luck in their eyes. their target has always been AEG and John Branca. it's so obvious, they wanted to remove Branca so they can get their hands on Michael's money, they sued AEG and hope to win the civil case to get more money. it's all about money since day one, they don't mind to portray Michael in such a negative way. damn, they had to make him be this delusional drug addict who was controlled and killed by AEG and Branca. that's the only way to help them get what they wanted and make themselves look good. if they really wanted to seek justice for Michael, more actions, less talk. oh, they had to talk to feed them.
I am so sorry for Michael.
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It is plain as day that the fimaily is going after John Branca because he his not letting them have a fRee Ride, if John was so bad then why is Jackie Jackson working for the estate? And why did he not sell MJ belongs from day one when thing was bad? the Jackson's are behaving as if Mj executor did not have to work there ass off the turn around MJ estate. it's a good thing they did not bring in a stranger who would need time to learn about MJ business dealings,
The two men that MJ leave to run his affair have more than prove them self, when we got them many was distrustful of them and did not know what to make of them.
But they took the wheel and drive the broken truck to almost safety stoping to fix the Leak, they get to work on Mj behalf looking out for MJ 3 and KJ paying of for the house she live in and make sure she live in the style MJ use to have her living in.
Even old greedy Joe who Mj X out of his will they offer $15000,00 a month,which he refuse.
Well you know what they say want all lose all.
 
Ivy, apparently Latoya is starting to accuse John Branca now openly for Michael's death (after the media went after her for failing to bring names I guess), and has done so in an interview in Chicago.
 
ivy said:
:) I argued this before. His loans was due in 2010. All they need to do was to not offer him any tours with chance to earn money and he could have defaulted on the loans. Some argue that AEG wanted the catalog so they offered Michael the tour with all the advances and when Michael couldn't perform, they would go and take his assets - catalog. Ok but there's one problem with that as KJ's lawsuit says AEG was reportedly pushing Michael to perform. The opposite of what the theory asks for. If they wanted to get his assets all they need to do was to sit down and watch Michael not attend rehearsals, do less shows than he signed for (10 versus 31) and then sue him for his assets. And 2 years after his death the catalog is still with the Estate.



What exactly she said about Branca?
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Rhilo said:
Ivy, apparently Latoya is starting to accuse John Branca now openly for Michael's death (after the media went after her for failing to bring names I guess), and has done so in an interview in Chicago.
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Yes she did openly accuse John .. Ivy Here is the interview _Unbelievable
Latoy now has openly acussed John Branca by name on National TV
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/video?id=8211425

I just got this message from Estates twitter team MJOnlineTeam telling me "The Estate is aware"

I hope they go after her Ass ... in a huge way _ I knew she would eventually hang herself_ she is stupid
 
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qbee said:
Yes she did openly accuse John .. Ivy Here is the interview _Unbelievable
Latoy now has openly acussed John Branca by name on National TV
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/video?id=8211425

"The Estate is aware" _ I just got this message from Estates twitter team MJOnlineTeam telling me so

I hope they go after her Ass ... in a huge way _ I knew she would eventually hang herself_ she is stupid
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okay I watched it. so that book is about abuse? I mean it's there but I would say it's 50% abuse and 50% MJ. and did she just list 10 or so new notes? okay, next...
 
So did you miss her stating Michael names John Branca as someone trying to kill him ??
listen to the interviewetrs question about who did MJ say was trying to kill him. Latoya openly
implicates John Branca .. I listened to it over and over and she does and then adds more unknown
so called notes found in MJs room WTF. I hope she keeps going .. becuase she is going to bring her
ownself down _ she will probably blaime it on Jefrie this time
 
Rhilo said:
Ivy, apparently Latoya is starting to accuse John Branca now openly for Michael's death (after the media went after her for failing to bring names I guess), and has done so in an interview in Chicago.
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I can't....my nerves are already on edge and distraught... Toy Poodle have a seat!
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She definitely names Branca as one of or thee killer. I also notice in this interview they completely can care less about her story of abuse and just want to hear her talk about MJ only! lol And that viewer that ask that question about the family and her owning their fam to MJ and do she and they feel they owe MJ a lot!? I LOLed. But, at least she admitted that he does, like DUH!
 
qbee said:
So did you miss her stating Michael names John Branca as someone trying to kill him ??
listen to the interviewetrs question about who did MJ say was trying to kill him. Latoya openly
implicates John Branca .. I listened to it over and over and she does and then adds more unknown
so called notes found in MJs room WTF. I hope she keeps going .. becuase she is going to bring her
ownself down _ she will probably blaime it on Jefrie this time
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No I heard her all right but after all I read and heard I simply ain't taking her seriously any more. I mean look she just made up 5-10 notes on the spot. and Michael complaining about Branca being around him? Even according to Branca his and Michael's interactions was quite recent before Michael's death. One initial meeting and a second meeting that Michael asked him to come back with ideas, perhaps a few more meetings / phonecalls that we don't know. Branca also said that he was on vacation with his family at the time of Michael's death - hard to be around Michael when you are away. So sorry but I'm having hard time believing anything she says.
 
LMAO! Who is she going to blame when, and if, John Branca takes legal action? That Michael's spirit forced her to write the book and accuse Branca on TV? I wouldn't be surprised if she does this in the future.
 
ivy said:
No I heard her all right but after all I read and heard I simply ain't taking her seriously any more. I mean look she just made up 5-10 notes on the spot. and Michael complaining about Branca being around him? Even according to Branca his and Michael's interactions was quite recent before Michael's death. One initial meeting and a second meeting that Michael asked him to come back with ideas, perhaps a few more meetings / phonecalls that we don't know. Branca also said that he was on vacation with his family at the time of Michael's death - hard to be around Michael when you are away. So sorry but I'm having hard time believing anything she says.
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So, I will take it that this man who everyone says went out of his way during his worst days of the trial to make sure that his children didn't feel his stress must have not allowed his children into his bedroom because why would he want them to see all of those notes posted around like that? And why make notes about that versus naming names when you actually tell people that someone is trying to kill you?

For those who have read the book, I just can't wrap my mind around some of the things that she is and is not saying. Does LaToya ever say that Michael feared for his children's lives? Shouldn't he have been afraid that these people could do something to the children yet he didn't stick to them like glue and he didn't ask any family to come live with him so that they could watch over him? LaToya says he was all bones when he was hugged yet I remember their mother saying that there was nothing wrong with him when she last saw him, which was a little over a week before his death if I remember correctly. So, why didn't he say bring Joseph with you when you come or take the children with you when you leave because I am afraid something was going to happen? Does LaToya even acknowledge that AllGood and her family were trying to convince Michael to perform in a family event during this same period of time? And finally, does LaToya ever state what she alleges that the children told her about how Michael looked, felt, or said about the the concerts in the weeks and days before his death? They were probably around at least some of these people (heck MJ had them with him at the B. Hills Hotel for that meeting) or interacted with Michael after he had met with them.
 
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Rhilo said:
LMAO! Who is she going to blame when, and if, John Branca takes legal action? That Michael's spirit forced her to write the book and accuse Branca on TV? I wouldn't be surprised if she does this in the future.
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At this point, the Estate executors have shown great restraint with the family and has given very little (public, at least) reactions to any accusations thrown out there; when they have responded, again it has been with restraint. Legal actions have pretty much side stepped family members directly and targeted those around them. Sometimes, I think that this could be what everyone counts on to continue.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
A.P running with her stupid claims aswell. Headline stating mj spent the last few months thinking someone would kill him amazing as she never saw him and is basing her claims on what he said around 03 inrelation to something totally seperate.of course the public will think mj told her that in the last weeks cause they were so close!
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She take these claims from one follower and some b actress who knew Michael and met him the last time on June 13
 
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loveforever said:
of course Thome Thome was on their ignore list, even Murray was a fall guy, bad luck in their eyes. their target has always been AEG and John Branca. it's so obvious, they wanted to remove Branca so they can get their hands on Michael's money, they sued AEG and hope to win the civil case to get more money. it's all about money since day one, they don't mind to portray Michael in such a negative way. damn, they had to make him be this delusio
nal drug addict who was controlled and killed by AEG and Branca. that's the only way to help them get what they wanted and make themselves look good. if they really wanted to seek justice for Michael, more actions, less talk. oh, they had to talk to feed them.

I am so sorry for Michael.
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welk said u are spot on.
 
we should swarm her twitter and tell her how disgusted we are cuz i am not sure if she is aware that MJs fanbase has lost patience with her a long time ago.
 
You know, what she did in that Chicago interview reminds me very much what she did when her first book was release. You know, when she accused Joe sexual abuse and made many other claims that for some reason never made it into her book. I thought Jack was the one who told her to add more juicy details. If so, why did she did the exact same thing now?

Toya, you can at least pretend to be less obvious.
 
ivy said:
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I believe she mentioned her appearance rates in the book. It's $50,000 or more.
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Hopefully the book-tour-interviews have now a end. I wonder that she mentions the money in the book.
 
TheChosenOne said:
Lawd - I just can't ...

For someone who had little contact with Michael, it is interesting how she heard from him about this conspiracy thing so often.

And I knew it was a matter of time before LaToya got a reality check in an interview. The way she portrays Michael as weak, manipulated and controlled only serves to enforce the notion that he was a drug addict. She is doing a great dis-service to this man in that regard.

The fact that she feels she can say that she and Michael were in the same position and she emerged and Michael did not, makes me want to vomit. Sorry to be so blunt.
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THIS! :yes:

This is exactly what I've been thinking. She keeps going on and about about Michael portraying him as this zombie who was just led by other people, she constantly tries to mirror herself to him and for somebody who did not (as she herself has outlined in her book) see Michael for years upon years, why is she trying to come off as if they were the closest of friends?

And I sincerely hope John Branca sues her ass, probably then and only then we'll find out who all the others are. If LaToya or anyone in that family has something to say, speak on FACTS and not ASSUMPTIONS!

LaToya a'int helping MJ with this book at all!
 
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Even after Latoya's demise her jealousy toward Michael is going to live on.
 
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