lil mama ft chris brown, t pain video like scream

[LovelyOne]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

TRIBUTE...just like TLC's "No Scrubs" was.

Come on, you all should know by now that these kids love Michael. It's a cute video, so I say let them pay their homage where they can.

That's very true...

There are SO MANY people today that are paying homage/tribute to Michael, basically saying "come back!!":

-Mary J Blige ("Just Fine" video in the beginning, as well as the beat of the song, very similar to "Don't Stop")

--Tyra B (Not tyra banks lol--Human nature sample)

--Kanye West (PYT sample for "The Good Life")

--Rihanna (WBSS sample for "Don't stop the music")

--I've probably left a few out...but you get the point!

lol.

Chris Brown even said on the Tyra Banks Show, when they were talking about Michael, that he "just wishes he would come back". Not exact quote, but that's basically what he said.

Chris Brown is well aware of the fact that he's mimicking Michael, lol. I mean, I don't know if he's a wannabe--a tribute is fine--but he'd better get back to his own style because there are too many MJ wannabes out there. And Chris has his own unique dancing and singing style...

Is this a song or just random noise with lyrics?

hahahaha!!

well, ofcourse... that was 10 years ago. Whats your point anyway?

Um, I think his/her point was that it's a cheap arse video.

lol!

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Sampling vs copying a short film is different.

 

[LovelyOne]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Sampling vs copying a short film is different.

It's not an exact copy anyway...

And it's not like Michael Jackson invented, or has the copyrights to the the imagery of white walls with bright lights and flat screen televisions on them...

 

[KOPV]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

I think it's just a matter of timeing between Michaels piece and thi one.. If SCREAM was at least 30 years old.. It would be more welcomed, than only 13 years..

Michael has "RIPPED OFF" a lot of people. But the time between.. He allows enough time for majority of people to forget where it came from..

 

[LovelyOne]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

I think it's just a matter of timeing between Michaels piece and thi one.. If SCREAM was at least 30 years old.. It would be more welcomed, than only 13 years..

Michael has "RIPPED OFF" a lot of people. But the time between.. He allows enough time for majority of people to forget where it came from..

Michael has inspiration from A LOT of different people.

There is nothing wrong with INSPIRATION.

Everyone has it, even the greats that he got his inspiration from have people that inspired them.

There is a difference though, between observing someone else's style, and creating your own unique style from it--and blatantly ripping them off.

Michael has gotten his vocal and dancing inspirations from other people--but like James Brown said himself when speaking about his own moves as Michael's inspiration, "he got his own steps". You can take different things from people to create something unique, but you don't have to be a clone.

 

[MJsPYT1]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

This video needs a disclaimer as the one in Thriller saying:

"Due to my strong personal convictions, I wish to stress that this film is a rip off Michael Jackson's Scream and in no way endorses a belief in our own talent."

LOL

LOL!! LOL!! LOL!! YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!!!

idk, I'm sooo glad that Chris luvs mj, but......... I guess the song was a bit boring, as was the vid ! sorry, dont kill me, guys!

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Michael has inspiration from A LOT of different people.

There is a difference though, between observing someone else's style, and creating your own unique style from it--and blatantly ripping them off.

I dunno. MJ got the SC clothes and video from Fred Astaires The Bandwagon which is also where MJ got 'the girl is dangerous' from too. It seems like abit of a rip off there somehow.

 

[mj4life]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

I used to like Chris Brown and now im starting to get really sick of him. this is a comment that i posted under the Scream vid and i posted a similar one under Chris Brown's video before it was taken off.

"Chris Brown is amazingly talented but im sick and tired of seeing him trying to replicate Michael's videos from Thriller to Smooth Criminal and now this. He always falls short. He needs to try and be original because that's the only way he'll succeed a longer time in the music industry. Michael was inspired a lot by James Brown but he took what he learned from him and made it completely his own. i'm sorry but Chris Brown just isnt doing it."

As much as Chris loves Michael I think he's just gotta stop doing what he's doing. It's one thing to be inspired by Michael Jackson and it's another thing to completely rip off his music videos. For Wall to Wall he was channeling Thriller, for Gimme That he was channeling Smooth Criminal including doing a kind of remix of the Smooth Criminal dance for the chorus. and in another video he and a bunch of his friends were following this girl and a bunch of her friends just like The Way You Make Me Feel. What else is he gonna try and copy? I predict the next one will be Bad.
I mean at least Neyo, Justin Timberlake and Usher try and come up with different concepts for their videos but no, Chris Brown straight up copies Mike and it always looks like crap in comparison.

2008 is the year that people have seemed to cry out for something Michael related from all of the sampling from the likes of Rihanna and Kanye to just straight up copying his videos. No one can do it like MJ...exactly why Alien Ant Farm and Lil Romeo both only had 1 hit to their name and that's because it was a Michael Jackson and Jackson Five hit in the past.

 

[J5master]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

But it's blatantly obvious that the Smooth Criminal thing was from Fred. THAT was a tribute. And it's not like MJ's whole style is based on Fred Astaire or even James Brown. Chris Brown on the other hand...LOL Every video of his almost is a 'tribute' to MJ LOL And even though the clothes and look was Astaire, MJ added his own (choreography?) thing to it. Something revolutionary and original (the lean?). Chris and these other cats aren't bringing ANYTHING to the table with this.

And "the girl is dangerous" i don't think is a blatant rip off of Astaire...a LOT of people say that phrase lol

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

But it's blatantly obvious that the Smooth Criminal thing was from Fred. THAT was a tribute. And it's not like MJ's whole style is based on Fred Astaire or even James Brown. Chris Brown on the other hand...LOL Every video of his almost is a 'tribute' to MJ LOL And even though the clothes and look was Astaire, MJ added his own (choreography?) thing to it. Something revolutionary and original (the lean?). Chris and these other cats aren't bringing ANYTHING to the table with this.

I know MJ didnt base his whole image on Fred Astaire and neither has Chris Brown. As for the lean, MJ got that from Jeffery Daniels!!

And "the girl is dangerous" i don't think is a blatant rip off of Astaire...a LOT of people say that phrase lol

Must be alot of dangerous girls/women out there cuz Ive only ever heard MJ say it.

 

[lilsusie]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

They Need To Put A Disclaimer!!

 

[J5master]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Okay you made a good point. I didn't know he got that from Daniels.

Edit: Haha watching some of these YouTube vids...I wonder if ANYTHING Mj did was original LOLLLLLLLLLLLL

I guess I can't hate on ANY of these new cats.

ALTHOUGH MJ is tennnnnnnn timmmeess more talented. lol

 

[Dangerous Incorporated]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Okay you made a good point. I didn't know he got that from Daniels.

TY Michael deffo has his own style but all artists steal/borrow stuff from each other. Madonna used the CYFI bass line in one of her recent hits and we could go on and on. Its natural I think. But there is a difference between inspiration and stealing.

 

[Cinnamon234]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Why do some of y'all get so worked up over things like this? Would you prefer it if no one was paying tribute or sampling Michael? Things like this just shows how influential Michael and his music (and to some degree Janet as well) really is. This only helps to keep him relevant and everytime Chris Brown performs it's like free promotion for Michael lol.

Also, unlike people like Justin Timberlake, AT LEAST Chris Brown actually gives credit to Michael and admits that he's inspired by him. Anyway, I'm not too crazy about the song but the video is tight lol. Who knew Lil Mama could dance like that? And Chris Brown as always is dancing his butt off and it doesn't hurt that he's cute either. I mean he's too young for me but I just think he's the cutest thing lol.

 

[His confessions]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

i dont think its ugly or a good thing i think its sad they cant come up with own things?

 

[LovelyOne]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

I dunno. MJ got the SC clothes and video from Fred Astaires The Bandwagon which is also where MJ got 'the girl is dangerous' from too. It seems like abit of a rip off there somehow.

That could be true!

...Like I already said, there's nothing wrong with a tribute!

I'm just bored with people who have no distinct style of their own...if you're an entertainer, don't be lazy--at least try to come up with something new!

But...I think Mike got the wearing the big black glasses all the time thing from Stevie Wonder (one of his influences)...I think that's actually a kind of tribute.

 

[wannabestartinsomthin21]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Chris Brown says he's gonna be bigger then Michael Jackson... and I believe him...

LOL!

I don't call him the next King of Pop, I call him, affectionately, the King of Slop, because of his sloppy ass dancing.

The boy has no concepts of his own. One or two references to Michael is cool, but damn this kid is ripping off every single plot line, atmosphere and idea Michael ever did, he's basing his whole career on Michael. He needs to be more varied.

... and he can't sing.

And what's this about Michael not having anything original? That's some bull sh*t. The man has a unique style of dancing. Steps don't matter, it's how you put them together, and Michael's always put steps together in a way which makes his style instantly recongnizable and associated soley with him (Chris just dances with the popular street styles of today, nothing original about his style whasoever) And what about all those videos in which we can't distinctly point to anything where Michael might have gotten the idea? Like "Remember The Time", "Billie Jean", "Black or White", "Bad", "Childhood", "TDCAU", "TWYMMF", "Blood On The Dance Floor", "Stranger In Moscow", "Earth Song", "Leave Me Alone", etc...

The concepts he's had for the majority of his videos have been original or reminiscent of something which came before but still unmistakably his own. The only videos we can point to where it's obvious are "Beat It", "Smooth Criminal" and to a point "Thriller" with the wearwolf concept from "American Wearwolf in London", but that's to be expected because John Landis directed both.

Michael once in a while performs a dance step which was highly accosiated with another performer, the mashed patatos (which James Brown didn't invent, by the way), the moonwalk (which Jeff Daniels didn't invent, by the way) some posing from Bob Fosse, etc... But the way Michael dances, the STYLE he dances in, is unlike anyone elses in history. It is unique and distinctly his own. Chris Brown looks like any common street dancer. Shoot, looking at that video I think Lil Mama is a better dancer, lol.

 

[Remyisme]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

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[LovelyOne]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Chris Brown says he's gonna be bigger then Michael Jackson... and I believe him...

LOL!

I don't call him the next King of Pop, I call him, affectionately, the King of Slop, because of his sloppy ass dancing.

The boy has no concepts of his own. One or two references to Michael is cool, but damn this kid is ripping off every single plot line, atmosphere and idea Michael ever did, he's basing his whole career on Michael. He needs to be more varied.

... and he can't sing.

And what's this about Michael not having anything original? That's some bull sh*t. The man has a unique style of dancing. Steps don't matter, it's how you put them together, and Michael's always put steps together in a way which makes his style instantly recongnizable and associated soley with him (Chris just dances with the popular street styles of today, nothing original about his style whasoever) And what about all those videos in which we can't distinctly point to anything where Michael might have gotten the idea? Like "Remember The Time", "Billie Jean", "Black or White", "Bad", "Childhood", "TDCAU", "TWYMMF", "Blood On The Dance Floor", "Stranger In Moscow", "Earth Song", "Leave Me Alone", etc...

The concepts he's had for the majority of his videos have been original or reminiscent of something which came before but still unmistakably his own. The only videos we can point to where it's obvious are "Beat It", "Smooth Criminal" and to a point "Thriller" with the wearwolf concept from "American Wearwolf in London", but that's to be expected because John Landis directed both.

Michael once in a while performs a dance step which was highly accosiated with another performer, the mashed patatos (which James Brown didn't invent, by the way), the moonwalk (which Jeff Daniels didn't invent, by the way) some posing from Bob Fosse, etc... But the way Michael dances, the STYLE he dances in, is unlike anyone elses in history. It is unique and distinctly his own. Chris Brown looks like any common street dancer. Shoot, looking at that video I think Lil Mama is a better dancer, lol.

Whoa whoa whoa, who the heck said Michael doesn't have anything original!?!!!

If you're referring to what I posted, I was NOT TALKING ABOUT MICHAEL AT ALL.

I was talking about the Justin Timberlakes, and the Ushers, and the Chris Browns, etc...who copy off of Michael.

And about Chris Brown...I think you're totally off about him. He's definitely an energetic dancer, and just because he's not always robotic like Michael often is, doesn't mean he's not a great dancer. He is definitely an entertaining dancer...he does back flips and front flips and splits on stage for goodness's sake, he's got ENERGY! His style of dancing is DIFFERENT, not better or worse than anyone else's. And when you say he looks like a "street dancer", what the heck do you think Michael is?! Michael has stated himself that he gets inspiration for a lot of his moves from kids dancing on street corners. He incorporates a lot of break dancing into his moves.

There are so many dancing styles, you can't even compare them.

And for you to say that Chris Brown can't sing is just bizarre to me...

I'm not even a fan of Chris Brown's but I can give credit where credit is due.

 

[Cinnamon234]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Well I don't think Chris is a good singer either but he is a good dancer and he has a lot of energy. I enjoy seeing him perform. And I never heard him claim he was going to be bigger than Michael and if he did, so what? It aint like that would ever happen anyway so who cares? lol. Leave the kid alone.

 

[Chaos]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

lil mama was worse then Chris...

(stupid stage name btw)

 

[Chaos]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Well I don't think Chris is a good singer either but he is a good dancer and he has a lot of energy. I enjoy seeing him perform. And I never heard him claim he was going to be bigger than Michael and if he did, so what? It aint like that would ever happen anyway so who cares? lol. Leave the kid alone.

u didnt see his thriller tribute did u? :lol:h34r:

 

[HumaNature88]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

There is a little to much Michael bashing in here. Michael is obviously original...that why he his were he is today..all he got from Fred Astaire and James Brown was inspiration. On the other hand, Chris Brown (who I think is incredibly talented), wants to be like the next Michael, to be able to achieve that. So Chris is just using a lot of inspiration from MJ, but a whole lot!! In the end, it shouldn't matter if he's copying Michael or not because critics are the ones who are going to be bashing him for trying to copy MJ.

But in my opinion, he's just a big fan and he shows it through his work.

 

[144000]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

the more people that give props to Michael, the better. these artists are doing that.unk:

 

[HumaNature88]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

the more people that give props to Michael, the better. these artists are doing that.unk:

I know, personally, I love it! They show their MJ love!

 

[144000]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Well I don't think Chris is a good singer either but he is a good dancer and he has a lot of energy. I enjoy seeing him perform. And I never heard him claim he was going to be bigger than Michael and if he did, so what? It aint like that would ever happen anyway so who cares? lol. Leave the kid alone.

wow..u don't think Chris has a good voice? i think he has a wonderful singing voice..one of the better ones in pop music, today..lolunk:

 

[Chaos]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Chris aint incredible, he doesnt do anything impressive or out of the ordinary or anything that cant be replaced by another... if Chris aint there Justin or Usher could easily substitute for him any day.

 

[LovelyOne]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

...I still think those of you saying Chris Brown can't sing are nuts.

 

[wannabestartinsomthin21]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

Whoa whoa whoa, who the heck said Michael doesn't have anything original!?!!!

If you're referring to what I posted, I was NOT TALKING ABOUT MICHAEL AT ALL.

I was talking about the Justin Timberlakes, and the Ushers, and the Chris Browns, etc...who copy off of Michael.

And about Chris Brown...I think you're totally off about him. He's definitely an energetic dancer, and just because he's not always robotic like Michael often is, doesn't mean he's not a great dancer. He is definitely an entertaining dancer...he does back flips and front flips and splits on stage for goodness's sake, he's got ENERGY! His style of dancing is DIFFERENT, not better or worse than anyone else's. And when you say he looks like a "street dancer", what the heck do you think Michael is?! Michael has stated himself that he gets inspiration for a lot of his moves from kids dancing on street corners. He incorporates a lot of break dancing into his moves.

There are so many dancing styles, you can't even compare them.

And for you to say that Chris Brown can't sing is just bizarre to me...

I'm not even a fan of Chris Brown's but I can give credit where credit is due.

I wasn't referring to you.

Anyway, Chris Brown has bad form. His lines are sloppy, he's inaccurate and has a lot of excess movement, and he lacks real grace or ease in his step. He has some fluidity, that's probably his strongest trait as a dancer, along with okay speed, but that's about it. This is basic criteria used in judging dancers. If you don't want to use standards and want to call everything opinion, fine, but in doing so, you must relent that nothing can be called art as art is determined by standards, and without them, nothing can be decerned or seperated from the other, making everything worthless in the end.

When I say he dances with the common styles of the popular street dancers today, I mean just that. He does crunking, a popular street style, popping and locking, etc... he doesn't actually put steps together in a unique and distinctly recongnizable way. You could mistake him for any street dancer, which I have when I didn't know it was him on stage. Michael is not a street dancer, he doesn't specialize or focus on street dances. He is simply a dancer, in the purist sense of the term, his greatness based soley on his inital movement. Michael is like a professional, what with his technical profeciancy and ability to adapt and execute many different forms of dance. He routinely makes trained dancers look common, putting him on their level. Michael incorporates elements of street dancing in to his style, but his style is not street dancing or any specific form of street dancing, it is his own, unique and recongnizable style, a combination of jazz, tap, locking and sometimes popping, and pantomime, but most especially jazz. He puts steps together in a way which defines his style and makes it look unlike any other that has come before. All Chris does is move in one or two particular forms but without putting steps together in a unique manner which can be associated specifically with him, he dances like anyone who dances in those styles.

Energetic does not equate to good dancing. MC Hammer is energetic, but he looks completely uncontroled and unclean when he moves, which based on basic standards, makes him a bad dancer. Chris Brown can dance, but he isn't even a good dancer, let alone a great dancer. Back flips, flips in general, etc... That isn't dancing, that's acrobatics, and it doesn't impress me.

Speed counts for nothing if you can't control it. Form is everything in dance.

And he's a horrible singer. He has no range, very little control and his voice is ugly in tone.

Chris has said he want's to be bigger then Michael. I brought that up only as a joke, knowing that with his lack of creativity and his pale in comparison talent, that it's never going to happen. I think it's ammusing that he thinks he can achieve that and also show's ignorance on his part as to what it means to be that famous. If he knew, he wouldn't want it.

I've got nothing against the kid personally, I'm just speaking on him artistically.

 

[lilsusie]

Re: TOTAL SCREAM RIPOFF (tribute?) chris brown, t-pain, lil mama

he does back flips and front flips and splits on stage for goodness's sake, he's got ENERGY!

That's chinese kung-fu. :lol: