At this point, I do not think Michael should try. Michael should do what he want to do just as long as it is good. Like you said, HE IS ONLY TRYING TO BEAT HIS OWN RECORD. Sorry but that is a good place to be compare to people like Usher, Justin, Chris, who is trying to break someone else (Michael) record.It was not that THRILLER was the greatest work Michael ever did to date.. If BAD was his second second solo 1981-1984, it would have been the largest album.. It was the timeing, and how Michael used it to his advantage..
Michael revolutionized Video (film) and dance in the same era.. (THAT IS HUGE) If BAD 18 minute video came out before THRILLER video, it would have been the BIG "THRILLER".. Also, Michael broke COLOR boundaries that were built (Changed the MTV age forever).. in that same era.. When SO MUCH happens at ONCE that makes that album, look LARGEST..
But it's just Michael broke it then.. So once BAD, DANGEROUS was released... There was less boundaries to BREAK DOWN.. At this point, it's hard to FIND things to break boundaries for him.. He literally LOOKS for records to break now.. That is tough.
in the early 80's, he just could be HIMSELF, and his talent broke the records for himself... But once you break majority of records. U are left there standing, looking for what else is there to revolutionize..
He's revolutionized
video (filM)
Dance
Tour productions
album sales
Entertainment financias
Music
What else is there to conqure in entertainment? He's left with very little to revolutionize, and stuck with beating himself and his own revolutions.. That's HARD..
Once you smash everything infront of you becoming SO LARGE.. There is nothing to smash but YOURSELF..[/b]
John Legend meant well. He just left out a sentence.
Here. I'll add it for him.
Onetime Jackson accuser claims father attacked him
The Associated Press
Published: September 5, 2006
TRENTON, New Jersey A man who as a boy accused Michael Jackson of molesting him and got a $20 million (€15.6 million) settlement from the pop singer now has won a ruling that could bring a trial on a claim he was attacked by his own father.
The man is seeking a restraining order against his father, who he said "struck him on the head from behind with a twelve and one-half pound (5.6 kilogram) weight and sprayed his eyes with mace or pepper spray and tried to choke him," according to an appellate court ruling.
A state Family Court judge in August 2005 had granted the man a temporary restraining order, but later refused to issue a permanent order.
The two-judge appellate panel said that was a mistake, writing, "Given the nature of the attack, it would appear that . . . immediate danger" could be inferred.
The panel sent the case back for trial and the temporary restraining order remains in effect.
The three-page ruling, from June 8, was reported Tuesday by the New York Daily News.
The man's lawyer, Brian M. Schwartz, did not immediately return a message seeking comment Tuesday and also did not respond to a request from the newspaper.
The father's lawyer, Raoul Bustillo, told the newspaper he would not discuss the case. He did not return a call Tuesday from The Associated Press.
The Associated Press is withholding the names of those involved to protect the identity of the accuser in the Jackson case. The man was a teen when he made the allegations against Jackson in 1993.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/05/...son_Accuser.php[/b]
It was not that THRILLER was the greatest work Michael ever did to date.. If BAD was his second second solo 1981-1984, it would have been the largest album.. It was the timeing, and how Michael used it to his advantage..
Michael revolutionized Video (film) and dance in the same era.. (THAT IS HUGE) If BAD 18 minute video came out before THRILLER video, it would have been the BIG "THRILLER".. Also, Michael broke COLOR boundaries that were built (Changed the MTV age forever).. in that same era.. When SO MUCH happens at ONCE that makes that album, look LARGEST..
But it's just Michael broke it then.. So once BAD, DANGEROUS was released... There was less boundaries to BREAK DOWN.. At this point, it's hard to FIND things to break boundaries for him.. He literally LOOKS for records to break now.. That is tough.
in the early 80's, he just could be HIMSELF, and his talent broke the records for himself... But once you break majority of records. U are left there standing, looking for what else is there to revolutionize..
He's revolutionized
video (filM)
Dance
Tour productions
album sales
Entertainment financias
Music
What else is there to conqure in entertainment? He's left with very little to revolutionize, and stuck with beating himself and his own revolutions.. That's HARD..
Once you smash everything infront of you becoming SO LARGE.. There is nothing to smash but YOURSELF..[/b]
I just hope that they he gets his stuff played on the radio here. But JL did make a valid point: some peeps don't separate the music from the rep.I understand but I still say, if the music is good, it will uphold itself and people will listen. Yes, people are going to judge him on his past work (that is done with every artist from Prince to Madonna, etc) but I do not think it will be so much about the claims. Look at the top artists of today, ALL of them are Michael wannabees and trying to do Michael sound and it is being loved regardless if some fans like these artist or not. I think the standard Michael has set is what he has to fight to be back in game more that his issues (believe me, if these claims would have never came up not even 1993, Michael would still have deal with these musically issues). Like i said, the claims hurt his reputation (which does not take much to hurt anyone's reputation nowadays) NOT his career.[/b]
i wonder why the devil did that to his son ....prob he wanted him to go to court and lie once again and his son refused so he wanted to kill him
who cares... they're both devils the father a bit more the son a bit less but dont matter. they're both gonna rot in hell as they deserve sick mf's[/b]
Berry Gordy was getting ready to put the Jackson boys out to pasture and the J5 fans had moved on the older stars. had Michael stayed with roots music we would no longer be talking about him because his teenage fans would have forgotten him just like they forgot the others of the time. MJ reinvented himself and grew in order to stay in the business. He did the right thing. Also MJ did showcase his dancing skills when he auditioned for Motown. He was always a dancer.[/b]
I don't think he was referring to the type of music per se, as much as showcasing his voice more -- without all of the signature 'sounds' he does with his voice. At least that is what I would like to hear more of.Berry Gordy was getting ready to put the Jackson boys out to pasture and the J5 fans had moved on the older stars. had Michael stayed with roots music we would no longer be talking about him because his teenage fans would have forgotten him just like they forgot the others of the time. MJ reinvented himself and grew in order to stay in the business. He did the right thing. Also MJ did showcase his dancing skills when he auditioned for Motown. He was always a dancer.[/b]
No doubt.The one thing that I will say is that people shouldn't ever think that the allegations are a given to be mentioned with Michael Jackson from here to eternity. No, it is not. Whenever it is brought up and tacked on to mentionings or subject matter that has nothing to really do with the allegations, that is simply a choice. It will never be a must.
John Legend chose to bring up the subject when the same could have been written without any impact on the original point of the article. He wanted to talked about the allegations and put it out there once again when what he was originally writing about had nothing to do with the allegations. I can write forever about Michael Jackson's impact on music, his talent, his career choices, etc. without having to bring up allegations.
If you don't believe me, do some history checking on so many "upstanding" stars. See what gets mentioned time and time again and what does not. It is and always will be by choice. Don't ever forget that.[/b]
Maybe in some peoples minds. Not everyone feels that way. It can't be so bad, every artist I see now these days try to sing dance or dress like him.As if it isn't the truth? It is tarnished.[/b]
I totally agree! :yes:The one thing that I will say is that people shouldn't ever think that the allegations are a given to be mentioned with Michael Jackson from here to eternity. No, it is not. Whenever it is brought up and tacked on to mentionings or subject matter that has nothing to really do with the allegations, that is simply a choice. It will never be a must.
John Legend chose to bring up the subject when the same could have been written without any impact on the original point of the article. He wanted to talked about the allegations and put it out there once again when what he was originally writing about had nothing to do with the allegations. I can write forever about Michael Jackson's impact on music, his talent, his career choices, etc. without having to bring up allegations.
If you don't believe me, do some history checking on so many "upstanding" stars. See what gets mentioned time and time again and what does not. It is and always will be by choice. Don't ever forget that.[/b]
I agree!They probably own all of Michael's CD's and then glom all over them at night, lol.
Hey, I'm just stating my opinion. I don't like to be negative, I don't like drama, I'm just saying what I feel. Nothing wrong with that. I'll always say this, just because you're a fan of Michael's doesn't mean I'm gonna be a fan of yours. Just because everyone else thinks its great doesn’t mean I'm going to, or others, as Datsymay and ATLF agreed with me. lol, someone does. All opinions should be allowed to be expressed without having someone jump down your throat for it. You’re obviously allowed to disagree, but a better approach to this is to state, using supporting facts, why, instead of attacking and getting angry.
Legends comments about the allegations speak to an unfortunate circumstance within people's minds, and they are blind to their own actions in this. The fact that it continues to be mentioned, especially in the context Legend mentioned it, only increases the over all affect it has on Michael and his career. Legend is saying it's too bad that the allegations have tainted Michael as an artist, but its people like him and his continual harping on about it, mentioning it in an article where, otherwise it is sorely out of place, that keeps the allegations alive and fresh in people's minds.
Here's the thing though. He may think the trial and the allegations will have some huge, detrimental affect on Michael's ability to come back, but they won't. This thing happened to Michael 14 years ago, it was a far worse situation, publicity wise, in 1993, and it didn't ruin his career, it didn't keep him from still moving more units and having more hits then anyone else, it didn't do any of that. It didn't ruin his career, and the trial, which cast Michael in a far more favorable light then the 93 allegations, due to the trial taking place, will certainly do no more harm to his image and his career then had already been done in the past. When people say his reputation is in shambles, they're wrong, it isn't. His reputation is actually doing better then it was when History came out, every where I look, some artist is praising Michael to high heaven, John Legend is hardly unique in his outspoken admiration for Michael. At least people like Usher supported Michael during the trial; Alicia Key's did the same, LL Cool J. That impresses me. But it's more common to hear artists call Michael a genius then a freak, that's what I've noticed. His artistry and his talent can't be denied and it ultimately has always over ridden the shadow those ridiculous accusations cast on him. Just like with Charlie Chaplin, eventually, it's always the artist's contributions which take center stage. John Legend doesn't understand that, in my view, and I just simply found his comments to be a rehash and safe. He can like whatever he wants, but what I took away from that is, he's been conditioned in to the same mindset as the majority of the public, in that he thinks the only truly relevant work Michael's ever produced were his first two solo albums and his J5 stuff. I just get that impression from what he said. Like he can't think on his own, he's just repeating what he's always heard, what's such common rhetoric among people in general and music critics, it's so easy. That's what made it such a weak article for me. Just my opinion, not meant to insight or outrage, just my opinion.[/b]
I don't think he was referring to the type of music per se, as much as showcasing his voice more -- without all of the signature 'sounds' he does with his voice. At least that is what I would like to hear more of.[/b]
I just hope that they he gets his stuff played on the radio here. But JL did make a valid point: some peeps don't separate the music from the rep.[/b]
It does overshadow it because it's overdone.That's EXACTLY what I meant! :yes: I don't see how they can see another side to what I said but hey that's ok too. I mean yeah they're his trademarks but it seemed to overshadow the fact that the brother could really belt it out if he wanted to ("Heaven Can Wait" was a fine example of that even with the strain, it was still soulful).[/b]
And the problem is they never will. The best thing to do IS deal with it because if we couldn't convince them BEFORE or he couldn't convince them regardless of the facts, what makes any of us think anything will change. Mike should just go ahead and do his thing and not even worry about it. That said, I hope he does get played on the radio.[/b]
great post!It was not that THRILLER was the greatest work Michael ever did to date.. If BAD was his second second solo 1981-1984, it would have been the largest album.. It was the timeing, and how Michael used it to his advantage..
Michael revolutionized Video (film) and dance in the same era.. (THAT IS HUGE) If BAD 18 minute video came out before THRILLER video, it would have been the BIG "THRILLER".. Also, Michael broke COLOR boundaries that were built (Changed the MTV age forever).. in that same era.. When SO MUCH happens at ONCE that makes that album, look LARGEST..
But it's just Michael broke it then.. So once BAD, DANGEROUS was released... There was less boundaries to BREAK DOWN.. At this point, it's hard to FIND things to break boundaries for him.. He literally LOOKS for records to break now.. That is tough.
in the early 80's, he just could be HIMSELF, and his talent broke the records for himself... But once you break majority of records. U are left there standing, looking for what else is there to revolutionize..
He's revolutionized
video (filM)
Dance
Tour productions
album sales
Entertainment financias
Music
What else is there to conqure in entertainment? He's left with very little to revolutionize, and stuck with beating himself and his own revolutions.. That's HARD..
Once you smash everything infront of you becoming SO LARGE.. There is nothing to smash but YOURSELF..[/b]
