MJJC Exclusive Q&A with Dr. Steve Shafer - Read his answers

He will answer follow up questions. So if you have any, you can write them on this thread.
 
Thank you Ivy, MJJC and all the other people who organize this Q&A. Really amazing work. Really organized Q&A.
I also wanted to thank Dr. Shafer to spend his time in his busy schedule to answering all 86 questions in so details.
Took me quite some time to read them all. He is really an amazing doctor and I admired him very much.
 
Ivy can we put together a MJ love package of music, books, stats about his humanitarian activity’s and accomplishments to send to Dr. Shafer? It would serve the dual purpose of educating the doctor about the phenomenal artist, musician, and dancer, composer MJ was and also serve as a thank you gift. What do you think? I would be willing to send money toward the goal.
 
Victory22;3567951 said:
Ivy can we put together a MJ love package of music, books, stats about his humanitarian activity’s and accomplishments to send to Dr. Shafer? It would serve the dual purpose of educating the doctor about the phenomenal artist, musician, and dancer, composer MJ was and also serve as a thank you gift. What do you think? I would be willing to send money toward the goal.

I think this is a good idea. We can't forget all the wonderful books (as you stated) about Michael's work and art such as the book by Joe Vogel. Also, what about referencing the Voices Education Project "Words and Violence" curriculum that was inspired by Michael. Just a thought?
 
ivy;3567764 said:
He will answer follow up questions. So if you have any, you can write them on this thread.

Hi Ivy. Below are some additional questions that I asked you about for Dr. Shafer. Thank you.
Michael Jackson, by all accounts from those who knew him, was a very sensitive individual. I believe he was a true empath. When faced with human suffering he would burst into tears and was inconsolable. It is reportedly his compassion that drove his humanitarian and philanthropic pursuits on behalf of children and the disenfranchised. He was inaccurately portrayed and vilified in the media and was extorted as well as the target of racism in law enforcement. (All this is well documented if one does research.)

Michael’s brother reports that the light went out of Michael's eyes during the trauma of his 2005 trial and he became dispirited enough to leave the country.

This question is not asking your opinion about Michael Jackson's morals, behavior or treatment at the hands of others, but about PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.) I know you cannot diagnose without seeing the patient, but given all that happened to Mr. Jackson, it is possible that his insomnia was related to PTSD and that his sleeplessness was trauma and stress related and a symptom of PTSD? His upcoming concert would be likely his last opportunity to redeem himself and I’m sure it caused him great anxiety in addition to the trauma.

Dr Murray, being a cardiologist, should have known of the off label use of Inderal or Propanolol as a treatment for PTSD and stress. Why on earth wouldn't he use that medication instead of benzodiazepines for stress and trauma?

I know he should have referred Michael for a sleep study and a specialist. But wouldn’t Inderal’s off label use for PTSD have alleviated some of his symptoms? It might have helped with sleep also. The use of heavy sedatives, anesthetic and benzodiazepines along with not referring him is further evidence of Murray’s incompetence. I believe he should have been referred for PTSD treatment.

I also believe that the first physician who used Propofol for sleep with Michael Jackson is guilty of malpractice.

Are you comfortable speaking to the issues raised here?

Thank you in advance and as a fellow medical professional, I thank you for being a role model and restoring my faith in the compassionate practice of medicine by a physician.

Rev.B. Kaufmann
 
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Wonder if you could ask Shafer if he thinks Murray gave all those benzos per IV on purpose to create a dependency to assure Michael would never fire him. In part 2, he clearly said there was allot of Lopz in Michael's system to put even a tolerate person to sleep and Murray was given propofol on top of that. He also gave Lopz through an IV which creates dependency even faster instead of the pills he actually prescription for Michael.

I also wonder if he could give an opinion to why Murray was given Lopz and the other sleep medication, forgot its name, if they were both chemically the same except for the half-life. You think after six-week he would know by now what works and not just mix drugs the way he did.
 
Re: MJJC Exclusive Q&A with Dr. Steve Shafer - Read his answers - Part 3

Wow Ben! You put it very nicely. I couldn't help tearing up.

Thank you Dr Shaffer from the bottom of my heart for taking your precious time to answer our questions. We fans cannot express how grateful we are for what you have done for Michael although he is no longer with us.


In his life, Michael met a lot of people, and most of them, at one point or another, used him, lied to him, back stabbed him, dragged his name through the mud, stole from him. An even greater number of people, who never met Michael, spent a lot of time, and sometimes a whole career, spreading terrible lies and accusations about him. They isolated and crushed him.
We saw him suffer and witnessed the excruciating pain he was inflicted. He stood up again and again. He still had the courage and ability to give love, to find the mere will to give love.
In a sadly ironic turn of events, a few amazing individuals stood up for him at last, to defend him one last time, when he was already gone.
Dear doctor Shafer, you did much more than protecting the name of decent medecine in your country. You protected the truth, you showed honesty, respect, decency, which are values we were not used to see anymore about Michael. For that only, you'll be remembered with a gratitude you can't even imagine. As MJ fans, you see, we dont have too many heroes. We spend a lot of time defending Michael against hateful or greedy people. You will have a special place in our heart, with the likes of Tom Mesereau.
Thank you for the compassion, understanding and respect you showed for us too. We're not used to it either.
You're a rare individual, you give me hope in humanity. I think I share the thought of many when I say I wish Michael had met you.
Thank you for being who you are.
 
As I mentioned I sent your comments to Dr. Shafer, this is what he wrote back


Wow, that is quite amazing! I’m really honored by the many kind comments from the MJJCommunity. I’m also honored to see my answers translated into foreign languages. That reflects an enormous dedication by you and your colleagues in the MJJCommunity. Please share with your community my appreciation for their kind comments and diligent translations.
 
Re: MJJC Exclusive Q&A with Dr. Steve Shafer - Read his answers - Part 3

In his life, Michael met a lot of people, and most of them, at one point or another, used him, lied to him, back stabbed him, dragged his name through the mud, stole from him. An even greater number of people, who never met Michael, spent a lot of time, and sometimes a whole career, spreading terrible lies and accusations about him. They isolated and crushed him.
We saw him suffer and witnessed the excruciating pain he was inflicted. He stood up again and again. He still had the courage and ability to give love, to find the mere will to give love.
In a sadly ironic turn of events, a few amazing individuals stood up for him at last, to defend him one last time, when he was already gone.
Dear doctor Shafer, you did much more than protecting the name of decent medecine in your country. You protected the truth, you showed honesty, respect, decency, which are values we were not used to see anymore about Michael. For that only, you'll be remembered with a gratitude you can't even imagine. As MJ fans, you see, we dont have too many heroes. We spend a lot of time defending Michael against hateful or greedy people. You will have a special place in our heart, with the likes of Tom Mesereau.
Thank you for the compassion, understanding and respect you showed for us too. We're not used to it either.
You're a rare individual, you give me hope in humanity. I think I share the thought of many when I say I wish Michael had met you.
Thank you for being who you are.

Speechless....

Thanks for that Ben, you said it all.
 
ivy;3569159 said:
As I mentioned I sent your comments to Dr. Shafer, this is what he wrote back


Wow, that is quite amazing! I’m really honored by the many kind comments from the MJJCommunity. I’m also honored to see my answers translated into foreign languages. That reflects an enormous dedication by you and your colleagues in the MJJCommunity. Please share with your community my appreciation for their kind comments and diligent translations.

Great man!!!! :wild:
 
ivy;3569159 said:
As I mentioned I sent your comments to Dr. Shafer, this is what he wrote back


Wow, that is quite amazing! I’m really honored by the many kind comments from the MJJCommunity. I’m also honored to see my answers translated into foreign languages. That reflects an enormous dedication by you and your colleagues in the MJJCommunity. Please share with your community my appreciation for their kind comments and diligent translations.

Thank you.
 
ivy;3569159 said:
As I mentioned I sent your comments to Dr. Shafer, this is what he wrote back


Wow, that is quite amazing! I’m really honored by the many kind comments from the MJJCommunity. I’m also honored to see my answers translated into foreign languages. That reflects an enormous dedication by you and your colleagues in the MJJCommunity. Please share with your community my appreciation for their kind comments and diligent translations.

Ah, sweet sweet man... If you had any idea... Only Ivy knows the struggle it has been for me. :hysterical:

I was honored to spread the words of such a man as you.
 
I'm speechless at this man's integrity--it really restores a great deal of my lost faith to medical practice..
Hugely grateful to Ivy and the entire MJJC team who made this possible.
 
ivy;3569159 said:
As I mentioned I sent your comments to Dr. Shafer, this is what he wrote back


Wow, that is quite amazing! I’m really honored by the many kind comments from the MJJCommunity. I’m also honored to see my answers translated into foreign languages. That reflects an enormous dedication by you and your colleagues in the MJJCommunity. Please share with your community my appreciation for their kind comments and diligent translations.

I can't THANK this man enough really... It seems 'corny' or 'over the top' but ... THANK YOU Dr. Shafer :wub:
You have INSPIRED me and NURTURED my feelings and DRIVE to help people again... You've build up my FAITH again in Docs... I'll be forever grateful for your kind and uplifting words...
YOU :punk:
 
This man is officially my hero.
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Fascinating read. Too bad I was late to the party.
 
Ben, that's every word I wanted to say. The ill effects of Michael's isolation were horrendous. He never met a class of people different from cons from 1999-2009. Often I think about how much damage Bashir did. Truly ironic that for a better class of people to be associated with Michael, he had to be gone.

It started a lot sooner than 1999 :( Michael would have loved Dr. Shafer as his doctor, I know I would too. Thank you Dr. Shafer you are brillant! :wub:
 
Re: MJJC Exclusive Q&A with Dr. Steve Shafer - Read his answers - Part 3

In his life, Michael met a lot of people, and most of them, at one point or another, used him, lied to him, back stabbed him, dragged his name through the mud, stole from him. An even greater number of people, who never met Michael, spent a lot of time, and sometimes a whole career, spreading terrible lies and accusations about him. They isolated and crushed him.
We saw him suffer and witnessed the excruciating pain he was inflicted. He stood up again and again. He still had the courage and ability to give love, to find the mere will to give love.
In a sadly ironic turn of events, a few amazing individuals stood up for him at last, to defend him one last time, when he was already gone.
Dear doctor Shafer, you did much more than protecting the name of decent medecine in your country. You protected the truth, you showed honesty, respect, decency, which are values we were not used to see anymore about Michael. For that only, you'll be remembered with a gratitude you can't even imagine. As MJ fans, you see, we dont have too many heroes. We spend a lot of time defending Michael against hateful or greedy people. You will have a special place in our heart, with the likes of Tom Mesereau.
Thank you for the compassion, understanding and respect you showed for us too. We're not used to it either.
You're a rare individual, you give me hope in humanity. I think I share the thought of many when I say I wish Michael had met you.
Thank you for being who you are.

So very true. A BIG thank you to Gaz and Ivy for this wonderful idea of Q&A and bringging it to fruitation. :flowers:
 
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