Murray Trial - 3 October - Day 5 - Discussion

I've been watching the livestream. Cooper was EXCELLENT. But, uhm, is the defense lawyer DRUNK? I say that in all sincerity, because he seems to be "on" something. Slurring some words, and not holding a train of thought, or remembering what question he was asking? Strange. .
 
he later asked her "so if you infused propofol over three to four minutes you would have noticed something was wrong immediately " he used that line of quetioning to support the defence theory that Murray WAS NOT in the room when MJ selfinjected and by the time he came back it was already too late . THE DEFENCE WANTS PEOPLE TO BELIEVE Murray LEFT

who caused those perimortem abraisons if he was not in the room? Flanagan told us today how Murray killed MJ and nobody even noticed:ermm:

"what was the danger of rapidly injecting 60mg of propofol?"

Which is why you either have a second person to watch or don't leave to begin with. By what the witness said the amount Murray gave may not even put Michael to sleep at all. Not to mention how the defense tried to justify not having a monitor and he witness spelling out for them why you do need a monitor because you may miss something critical.

Epic fail, defense.
 
who is dixon?? i agree the doc looked pissed at murray action. she stated more then once about the machines being there for a reason
 
brazil is doing direct. dont like her much. keep her on the easy witnesses like this one
 
Yeah! I think that'd be a great idea. Not only Dr.Cooper but maybe, if possible, Michael Amir Williams & Faheem and Alberto Alvarez too. :happy:

I don't think it's a good idea to send dr cooper a fan thank you letter. She's a professional, giving her professional opinion as to what happened that day. she's not on any side and would be mortified if she was thought to be - she's just doing her job as are the paramedics - i think that should be expected by the public.
 
i wonder if they will use the other dr as at the end of the day the comments about murray saying i left the room and came back contridicts coppers testimony. id rather leave it as it is. let coopers testimony stand
 
I don't think it's a good idea to send dr cooper a fan thank you letter. She's a professional, giving her professional opinion as to what happened that day. she's not on any side and would be mortified if she was thought to be - she's just doing her job as are the paramedics - i think that should be expected by the public.

I Understand that, that's fair enough, i didn't originally bring her name up.

Maybe then, some sort of 'Thank You' to the aforementioned Bodyguards, now we know them & understand how much they cared for Michael. (once the Trial is over) As they were close to Michael as they, themselves have stated. :) Just a little idea.
 
going through the details of the bill. what time it was made where it was made to etc in a general sense. they arent going through murrays calls yet
 
Just to backtrack a little bit - Murray withholding information from Cooper would not have affected outcome SO HE HAD NO REASON NOT TO BE TRUTHFUL.

The only reason Murray did not disclose full information was because he knew he had done wrong.
 
7am to 5pm. calls through these times were looked at
 
please if any one could write the calls made after 10:30 very important
 
going through the times numbers and lengths of his calls the morning of the 25th
 
please if any one could write the calls made after 10:30 very important

i have the list saved from the prelim/reports. dont know if its exact same as whats been gone through now. sounds the same. if someone can screen shot the list?
 
i have the list saved from the prelim/reports. dont know if its exact same as whats been gone through now. sounds the same. if someone can screen shot the list?

I was about to do that, but I also wondered if it's the same. I'll post them and we can correct them if necessary?
 
12:03 pm text
12:04 text message to or from TX
12. 13 pm data
12:18 pm data
12:53 pm text mesage California
1:23 pm text message Nevada

- list of phone calls
10:29 am call from ? to Murray’s phone 22 minutes
11:07 am from 3233 to Murray’s phone 1 minute
11 18 am call from 0973 placed 6802 and that call logged at 32 minutes.
missed listing one call
11:49 am call placed from Murray to 4989 3 minutes.
11:51 am a call placed from Murry to 3832 11 minutes.
12:12 pm from Murray phone to 2570 lasted 1 minute
12:15 pm from 2570 to conrad Murray 1 minute

i believe thats the AT and T list above. thats what i have saved from ages ago. more calls were made after 12.15. i have another list saved from sprint
 
I'm not completely sure but there was a call at 10.37 am that lasted 111 seconds did anyone else notice it? if true then the "10:40am " he gave in his statement was well thought of?
 
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