Murray's Wife and Conrad's REAL Name

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Still researching. Here some of what I’ve discovered.

An earlier post stated: "According to DMV records Robert Earl Carter and his wife live
at 2579 Red Springs Drive in Las vegas, Now this isnt the address that the "police searched" for their Home but they do own Both properties."

I took another look at the Clark County Assessor’s records. Those records do not show a past or present property owner named Robert Earl Carter. They also do not show that the wife of Conrad R Murray owned the property with him during the time that he owned it. The records do not show that Conrad R Murray currently owns the property.

http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/depts/assessor/pages/Disclaim.aspx

Also, an earlier post stated: “something else I found out which I think might be important, remember when that car was towed at mjs house and they said murray was driving it but it belonged to his sister Susan Rush, well I noticed on peoplefinders it listed Susan rush as an associate or roommate of the "murray's. So I did a googe check on her well I couldnt figure out if she is related to them or if she is a real person, The name Susan rush is a personal circus, like the Circus is called susan rush, and the address for whoever owns the circus is 10629 Sandpiper Dr# 14 Houston texas 77096 well That address is owned by robert Earl carter.”

The Harris County Appraisal District’s Real Property Account Information for Tax years 2005 – 2009 for the 10629 Sandpiper Drive address list the property owner as “Suzan M Rush”. These records do not list Robert Earl Carter as the property owner. The Harris County Voter Registration Records show that a person named “Susan Mary Rush” living at 10629 Sandpiper Drive is registered to vote.

http://www.hcad.org/records/default.asp

http://www.tax.co.harris.tx.us/voter/voter_cert.aspx?CERT=29406873

(I'm still working on figuring out how to use the quote post feature. Please have patience with me!)
 
Leonard Muhammad used to "help" run MJ's camp along with Dr. Thome. Leonard Muhammad is Louis Farrakhan's son-in-law. Leonard Muhammad & Louis Farrakhan have a long rap sheet of fraud and schemes against the US. During MJ's 2004 trial, Muhammad threatened a lot of people. Louis Farrakhan always says the truth will prevail in all his sermons and speeches

Rawle Andrews Jr.
Ronald Andrews
Robert Earl Carter
Blanche Murray
Davil Armstrong
Leonard Muhammad
Louis Farrakhan
Jermaine Jackson

ALL APART OF NATION OF ISLAM
http://www.noi.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nation_of_islam
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/farrakhan.michael.jackson.2.1101639.html
Thanx to molly for the help.


^^^Damn DAMN DAMN

How in the hell all these people have woven themselves in Michaels life? They are all connected, who else has had their hands in MJs pocket? Is Jermaine the key? Jermaine always saying stuff like "I was his rock, i was his backbone.." were you REALLY Jermaine? or are you just playing the fool...Jermaine announced MJs death...

damn ya'll got me thinking all sorts of hoax/conspiracy like stuff...this is just insane.
 
Someone tried to suggest that the Blank Panthers had wormed their way into MJ's life too:
Terrorism Feared at Michael Jackson Trial

Posted Dec 22nd 2009 1:07PM by TMZ Staff
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Authorities in the small California town where Michael Jackson stood trial for alleged molestation feared the venue might become a "soft target" for terrorists .. this according to docs just released by the FBI.

According to documents, Santa Maria police asked the FBI to get involved because the "worldwide media coverage" could prove irresistible to terror groups.

The FBI investigated and concluded there was no credible threat, but did note the presence of a "New Black Panther Party" member at Jackson's first court hearing.
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However the raised fist is usually regarded as an expression of solidarity, strength or defiance.
 
Dr Rawle Andrews works at 7901 West Montgomery Rd which is just down the road from the clinic at 6286 W Montgomery Rd where the police searched and where Murray is allegedly working now which as Ive stated in a previous post isnt really the case at all.

Dr Andrews lost his medical license for doing the same thing that Murray has now done to Michael except Andrews patient didnt die:
http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/2009/07/23/michael-jackson-conrad-murray-rawle-andrews/
http://www.aframnews.com/html/inter...onnected-in-Michael-Jacksons-Death/Page1.html

Dr Andrews has 2 other sons (besides Murray/Carter). Rawle Andrews Jr. and Ronald Andrews.

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Ronald Andrews was supposed to take over his fathers clinic but took a better offer:
http://www.businessreport.com/news/2007/nov/20/ronald-andrews/

Ronald Andrews works here:
http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Ronald_Andrews_2.html

The other son, Rawle Andrews Jr. is a political lawyer in Washington.

Dr Rawle Andrews Jr. is behind Michael here at Capitol Hill:
[youtube]m-al-VynZW8[/youtube]

Dr Andrews Jr. is apart of Washington Alumni Group:
http://www.flagshipkappas.com/wac1.html

Leonard Muhammad used to "help" run MJ's camp along with Dr. Thome. Leonard Muhammad is Louis Farrakhan's son-in-law. Leonard Muhammad & Louis Farrakhan have a long rap sheet of fraud and schemes against the US. During MJ's 2004 trial, Muhammad threatened a lot of people. Louis Farrakhan always says the truth will prevail in all his sermons and speeches

Rawle Andrews Jr.
Ronald Andrews
Robert Earl Carter
Blanche Murray
Davil Armstrong
Leonard Muhammad
Louis Farrakhan
Jermaine Jackson


ALL APART OF NATION OF ISLAM
http://www.noi.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nation_of_islam
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/farrakhan.michael.jackson.2.1101639.html
Thanx to molly for the help.

Thank you for your research, DI. You're amazing, really. :clapping:

I'm laughing at how ridiculous this is! Connie's brother was behind Michael in a video a few years before he died?! What the heck is this?! Where's the remote?!

:popcorn: This is going to be quite the case, especially if we're all right and there was a conspiracy to kill Michael.

I'm quoting this over at MJJB on the related thread if you don't mind. More people should see this.
 

Lol, I'm gonna try adding him and just lurk... Doubt he'll add me, though.


Was the bodyguard introducing Murray to Michael to care for one of the kids story already known before tonight? I've always heard someone introduced Murray to Michael to care for one of the kids, but never a bodyguard. :unsure: If it was a bodyguard, could they have still been connected with the NoI?!
 
Was the bodyguard introducing Murray to Michael to care for one of the kids story already known before tonight? I've always heard someone introduced Murray to Michael to care for one of the kids, but never a bodyguard. :unsure: If it was a bodyguard, could they have still been connected with the NoI?!

Wait, what?! Where did you hear that? The bodyguard part.
 
^ I saw that too but can't remember exactly how they said it. I thought it was weird as well especially that we have a couple of stories.
Wasn't Mike's assistant "Brother Michael" a muslim? Now it doesn't mean he was in NOI but still, it would be a possibility. Does anyone know anything about him and where he is now?
 
This is all very interesting.
Malik Zulu Shabazz was the Panther at Michael's first arraignment.
 
Rawle Andrews Jr.
Ronald Andrews
Robert Earl Carter
Blanche Murray
Davil Armstrong
Leonard Muhammad
Louis Farrakhan
Jermaine Jackson


ALL APART OF NATION OF ISLAM

Jackson Chaos: Has Nation of Islam Taken Over?



Michael Jackson is panicked about his legal situation. In fact, he is so anxiety-ridden that he is now taking advice from a leader of the Nation of Islam rather than listening to his managers.


All of this comes on the eve of an event at Neverland Ranch on Saturday for 200 invited family members and friends. I told you about this event a couple of weeks ago. There will be a lot of filming that day of testimonials in an effort to rally support behind Jackson.


In the meantime, sources portray the situation with Jackson's inner circle as chaotic, with brother Jermaine Jackson — sensing a chance to win favor with his famous, wealthy brother — bringing Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam into the mix. Jermaine became a Muslim in 1989 after a visit to Saudi Arabia, and his children converted to the faith as well.
My sources tell me that last week, the day before Jackson's controversial manager Dieter Wiesner left for a trip to Germany, Jermaine introduced Nation of Islam leader Leonard F. Muhammad — Farrakhan's chief of staff — into the group as a "bodyguard."


After Wiesner departed, Muhammad and Jermaine began making the case to Michael that he was a victim of racism and that only the Nation of Islam could save him.


Since Wiesner's return from Germany, massive infighting has taken place as the opposing sides vie for Jackson's attention.


Meanwhile, the event this Saturday seems to be in the hands of none other than Jackson's father, Joseph, who has turned it into a family reunion.


"Michael has issues with his father, but he can't say no to him," said my source. "And right now, he's so panicked about what's happening, he's listening to his father and to Jermaine."


Both Joseph and Jermaine have declared bankruptcy in recent years and depend greatly on the largesse of Michael and his sister Janet.


Contrary to conventional thought, the Jackson 5 were not big money-makers in their days as recording artists. Because they didn't write their own songs and because royalties are not paid to performers, during their time at Motown the Jacksons mostly earned money by touring.


It wasn't until they moved to Columbia Records in the late 1970s that that changed. Their last big money-making tour, known as the Victory tour, took place nearly 20 years ago.


Whether Wiesner and his partner, Ronald Konitzer, can break the new stranglehold on Jackson by Muhammad remains "fluid," my source said.
"Jermaine and his father needed some kind of leverage with Michael to make sure their cash cow didn't disappear. So they're not going to let go without a fight."


This change among Jackson's confidants has so far not affected his legal team, however. I am told that his attorney Mark Geragos is meeting with Sneddon this afternoon in anticipation of the media frenzy which will no doubt occur upon the filing of charges.


Calls to Geragos and to the Nation of Islam were not returned.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105990,00.html#2
Now I know that comes from the wanker Freidman but it confirms some of info I stated before that Farrakhan's son in law was in the MJ camp and that the NoI got their nose into MJs business as does this story:

Dispute in Michael Jackson Camp Over Role of the Nation of Islam

New York Times/December 30, 2003
By Sharon Waxman


Los Angeles -- Officials from the Nation of Islam, a separatist African-American Muslim group, have moved in with Michael Jackson and are asserting control over the singer's business affairs, friends, employees and business associates of Mr. Jackson said.
Initially invited to the Neverland Ranch several weeks ago to provide security for Mr. Jackson, members of the Nation of Islam are now restricting access to him and have begun making decisions for him related to the news media, his business affairs and even his legal strategy, some of Mr. Jackson's friends and associates said. Mr. Jackson faces charges of child molesting in Santa Barbara and recently moved into a rented house in Los Angeles, where Nation of Islam officials have accompanied him.
Efforts to reach Mr. Jackson through his spokesman were not sucessful, but his lawyer, Mark Geragos, and The Final Call, the Nation of Islam's newspaper, denied the claim.
Leonard Muhammad, chief of staff and son-in-law of the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, now works out of the Los Angeles office of Mr. Geragos, Mr. Jackson's lawyer, the Jackson associates said. Mr. Muhammad stood behind Mr. Geragos during a recent televised news conference and, according to two of Mr. Jackson's employees who spoke on condition of anonymity, he participates in phone calls involving media and legal strategy.
Mr. Jackson's official spokesman, Stuart Backerman, resigned on Monday to protest the Nation of Islam's presence, said a colleague of Mr. Backerman, who could not be reached for comment on Monday.
The employees said they spoke out because they are concerned about Mr. Jackson's welfare and because his multicultural message was at odds with the group's philosophy of black separatism. The Nation of Islam is a small group that advocates black self-empowerment and a separate African-American state, and some of its leaders have espoused anti-Semitic, anti-gay and racist rhetoric. Mr. Jackson is not Muslim nor a member of the Nation of Islam.
"The Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan's son-in-law have taken over completely and are in full and total charge," said one senior Jackson employee, speaking on condition of anonymity. "They have gone in and taken over control of the finances in terms of who's getting paid, how much," the employee added. "They're approving all funds and have decided they have control of the business manager and accountant, without signing authority or power of attorney. They are working out of Geragos's office; in essence they're telling him what to do."
A business associate of Mr. Jackson who was accustomed to speaking to the singer daily said there were about a half-dozen Nation of Islam members around the singer constantly, whether at Neverland or in Los Angeles. "These people are basically brainwashing him," said the associate, who is also a friend of Mr. Jackson's. "They tried to do the same thing to Whitney Houston. They offer a false sense that they can control everything. Everyone is scared of them. They pretty much keep Michael semi-captive."
Another Jackson employee said: "They're negotiating business deals with him. They're negotiating media deals, who can talk, how much. You've got a lawyer who's scared to throw them out. Michael doesn't know what to do with them."
The employees said Mr. Geragos and Mr. Muhammad together negotiated an interview of Mr. Jackson by the CBS program "60 Minutes," which was shown on Sunday, in exchange for an agreement by the network to broadcast a still-incomplete Michael Jackson special, for which Mr. Jackson would be paid $5 million.
The interview was negotiated last week by Les Moonves, chief executive of CBS, over the objections of Jackson advisers who said they thought it was a bad idea to put Mr. Jackson on television while he faced felony charges.
In response to inquiries on Monday a statement issued by The Final Call said that the Nation of Islam "has no official business or professional relationship with Mr. Michael Jackson." The statement added, "The Nation of Islam joins thousands of other people in wishing him well."
In a telephone interview on Monday Mr. Geragos denied that the Nation of Islam was running Mr. Jackson's affairs. "The idea that there is some takeover by the Nation of Islam - someone is spinning you," he said. "Nobody has told me what to do and what not to do. Leonard, I believe, is someone Michael consults with, just like in excess of 25 people."
Mr. Geragos said that members of Mr. Jackson's security detail were Muslim but that that did not mean they belonged to the Nation of Islam. Mr. Geragos said that he felt these accusations of Nation of Islam control have originated with the Santa Barbara district attorney's office, which is "playing the race card," he said.
But a half-dozen people from Mr. Jackson's inner circle, some speaking on condition of anonymity, said they had not been able to talk to the star in weeks and laughed at the notion that the district attorney was the source of their own comments.
Mr. Jackson's main business partners, Dieter Wiesner and Ronald Konitzer, said that they had been unable to get to Mr. Jackson for the last two weeks. "These are difficult times," Mr. Konitzer said in a phone interview. "My concern is the business side. I would like to get back to business." Asked if he were being pushed out by the Nation of Islam, Mr. Konitzer said: "I don't want to comment on that one." Others who are said not to be able to contact Mr. Jackson include Mr. Backerman and Mark Schaffel, one of Mr. Jackson's business associates, who could not be reached for comment.
Despite the concern of Jackson employees about the CBS interview, Mr. Geragos said Mr. Jackson himself decided to give the interview, and that it was not unusual for high-profile figures awaiting trial to speak to the media. "Michael wanted to make a statement, his fans wanted him to," Mr. Geragos said. "People are extremely interested." Mr. Muhammad was present briefly during the interview, Mr. Geragos said.
In the interview Mr. Jackson again confirmed that he enjoyed sleeping with children, though not in a sexual way. "Of course - why not?" he said when asked about it. "If you're going to be a pedophile, if you're going to be Jack the Ripper, if you're going to be a murderer, it's not a good idea. That I am not." He also accused the police of brutality in handcuffing him and humiliated him by locking him in a bathroom smeared with feces during his arrest.
Eyewitnesses said that Mr. Jackson was guarded by Nation of Islam security at a party at Neverland on the Saturday before Christmas. He was not permitted to leave his main house because of alleged security risks that day, nor in the two days after the party, they said.
"Security told him the premises was not secure, they'd rather have him back in the house," said a friend of Mr. Jackson who was a guest at the party, speaking on condition of anonymity. "I felt like Michael was a prisoner in his own house. The bottom line is: what kind of security do you need in your own home?"
Meanwhile Mr. Jackson has rented a house in downtown Los Angeles, where he is also accompanied by Nation of Islam security. He told "60 Minutes" he considered Neverland tainted because of the police search.
The motives of Mr. Muhammad and the Nation of Islam are not clear. The group, which believes in black pride and racial separation, has not supported Mr. Jackson in the past; Mr. Jackson has undergone extensive cosmetic surgery and his children appear to be Caucasian.
But some would consider gaining Mr. Jackson as a follower or proponent of the tiny group, which numbers about 20,000, to be a huge coup. Mr. Jackson's now-shunned advisors say they fear the Nation of Islam intends to use Mr. Jackson's celebrity to increase its visibility and make money off the star and that Mr. Jackson is too naïve to suspect otherwise.
Mr. Jackson was introduced to the Nation of Islam through his nanny, Grace Rwarmba, who is a member of the group, and through Mr. Jackson's brother Jermaine, several people close to Mr. Jackson said. The pop star met Mr. Farrakhan in Las Vegas last month, and the Nation of Islam leader "talked like a father to him," said someone present at the meeting. "They prayed together." Around Thanksgiving Mr. Muhammad moved up to Neverland and is said to have begun asserting control.
Mr. Farrakhan has called Judaism a "gutter religion" and as recently as November gave a speech in which he called Jews the "masters of Hollywood" who feed "the minds of the American people and the people of the world filth and indecency."

http://www.rickross.com/reference/nationofislam/nationofislam37.html
 
DI, are you 100% sure they didn't just mislabel the image since obviously this white guy is connected with Conrad Murray in some way?

Also, I read your NOI post a bit more carefully this time. Where's the major connection to the NOI? Same with Blanche and the others...
 
Yeah why is his Twitter picture the one that is used everywhere for him. Kind of odd.
I'm interested who that guy is now as well. Thanks for all the research everyone in here, I've read the entire thread and it's very interesting.
 
"Please consider that I too am a father, do not judge or condemn me until you have walked in my shoes. Please pray for my family about 11 hours ago from web"

Does he really have a twitter account? O__o

LOL But, to answer him if it's true that he wrote that, he doesn't even pay child support so what family he talking about exactly?!

How weird that he uses the same damn pic circulating the web it's like he didn't exist before 2009 or something! But, he's been a doc for yrs haven't he, but no other pics? Anyways that pic of the white Murray is very strange I just saw the video myself a few hrs ago and couldn't believe my eyes! That is something that he happens to be behind the black Murray in court very trippy! lol
 
He should have considered he is a father before he did what he did! Why is he always acting like some victim?! AAGGGHHHH! Sorry, off topic but I just couldn't hold it in anymore. :(
 
DI, are you 100% sure they didn't just mislabel the image since obviously this white guy is connected with Conrad Murray in some way?

Its possible that its been mislabled true. Although confusing a white Dr to the black Dr we all know about is odd. Its not as if a lot of people dont know who the alleged killer of Michael Jackson is.

I would have thought that the news outlet that produced the image was would have been more careful. All the bio info that was given was correct. Also the fact that the guy Splash labelled Murray is actually connected with Conrad Murray/Robert Carter is more than coincidence.
Also, I read your NOI post a bit more carefully this time. Where's the major connection to the NOI? Same with Blanche and the others...

Well theyre all apart of the NOI.
 
Its possible that its been mislabled true. Although confusing a white Dr to the black Dr we all know about is odd. Its not as if a lot of people dont know who the alleged killer of Michael Jackson is.

I would have thought that the news outlet that produced the image was would have been more careful. All the bio info that was given was correct. Also the fact that the guy Splash labelled Murray is actually connected with Conrad Murray/Robert Carter is more than coincidence.

Oh yeah, it's definitely suspicious. I'm just throwing out an arguing point to stretch your mind a bit. ;D


Well theyre all apart of the NOI.

I understand that's what you're claiming, but how do you know? I don't see sources proving those connections in your post.
 
I understand that's what you're claiming, but how do you know? I don't see sources proving those connections in your post.

I did supply sources for some on that list (I thought I posted all actually! Oops!) but give me a day to find the sources for the others. Im all over the place atm researching all sorts of things. We absolutely need to prove without a shadow of a doubt how all the dots fit together otherwise nobody will take you seriously if just throw out wild accusations.
 
I did supply sources for some on that list (I thought I posted all actually! Oops!) but give me a day to find the sources for the others. Im all over the place atm researching all sorts of things. We absolutely need to prove without a shadow of a doubt how all the dots fit together otherwise nobody will take you seriously if just throw out wild accusations.

Goody. :angel: Thank you, sir.

I agree with the latter part of your post, too. I try to explain things when people ask me why I think it was murder and their attention really fades fast once I start mentioning Sony and the like. -_-
 
^^I dont understand why more people arent looking at Sony. They have a motive and the means......in fact theyve attempted to ruin MJ on more than one occasion before and there is actually evidence of that.

Here is an interesting video pertaining to the clinic Murray is allegedly working at:
[youtube]yT0yQFdKY9k[/youtube]
 
Honest answer to why I don't blame AEG, Sony.....etc.....etc....

Motive and timing. THAT .... and the fact that I can't conceive of the fact that anyone, let alone a group of people could dislike MJ so much they wanted him dead.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Thats my honest answer.
 
Honest answer to why I don't blame AEG, Sony.....etc.....etc....

Motive and timing. THAT .... and the fact that I can't conceive of the fact that anyone, let alone a group of people could dislike MJ so much they wanted him dead.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Thats my honest answer.

Motive and timing is the VERY reason why Sony would bump off MJ. In 2002 MJ signed a contract that insured that MJ would get his masters back in 7 years (July 2009). It is likely that MJ signed the contract in July (based on an article in July 2002 and also the fact that Ive heard from others that it was the Sony contract MJ signed on July 7 2002 not his will). So that means that Michael was only 2 weeks away from obtaining his masters from Sony and Sony no longer receives 50% royalties on MJs music.

If MJ got his masters back not only would he recieve 100% royalties for on his masters (has anybody every got that much? I dont think so), plus after the tour and possible new album he would be able to afford to buy out Sony from the ATV catalogue and then Sony would not have their hand in MJs business. MJ told Sony in 2002 that Invincible was his last album with them.

MJ would then be able to take his catalogue and release OTW, Thriller, Bad etc all through a new company and not Sony.

But this has not happened. Now Sony still own 50% of the catalogue, they still have MJs masters. Now Branca has tried to steal the catalogue from MJ before as he was working for Sony and MJ at the same time. Now Branca is Estate Admin, he has the right to sell ATV to Sony.

With Sony making money on the surge of MJ releases, plus being able to sell MJs demos, TII, and the catalogue, Sony are the ones who benefit the most from MJs passing and there is evidence that they have tried to interfere in MJs life.

Sony has a means and a motive.
 
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^^^^...well just because somethings cannot be fathomed does not mean they are not true.....look closer at the BIG picture that Dangerous Incorporated is painting for us...thank you Dangerous..
 
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