Paris Jackson begins acting career - Lundon's Bridge - Summary of the book @pg42

Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Rubbish.!!! Want to bet about Foster and Shields backgrounds.?????

Dude this is NOT about Brooke shields et al. It's about a 13 years old kid being exploited for what she's worth.
It's obvious you don't understand the issues at play here.
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Michael Jackson was nearly 51 years old, filled up with Benzodiazepines, propofol and God knows what other drugs, and he was STILL complaining about the lack of childhood, all the pain he went thru and still had. Yet ignorant stans are dismissing his own words?! I know that some Jackson Leeches supporters would defend anything they do, even if they were to kill one of the children and sell it off as an accident, they'd come here and say ''oh well it wasn't accident the gun went just off, stop criticizing. Michael Jackson when briefly interviewed for his 50th birthday by GMA in August 2008, was talking about the sacrifices he had to make, about loosing his childhood, about not having a childhood, he said he was emotional while seeing his kids doing regular kids stuff, because he wasn't able to do so, yet some of u ignorant minds have the nerves to get in this thread and dismiss Michael's own words and pain when it's clearly that he had severe mental and emotional issues due to what his greedy parents put him through?! Seriously smdh



Michael was talking about his kids entering showbiz when they were adults not as young teens. And even if Michael were here and his daughter would want to join the film industry, Michael would GUIDE AND PROTECT her, because he didn't have an ULTERIOR MOTIVE, unlike KAtherine and the rest of the useless clan. He wouldn't let his child work so that he could be lazy sitting at home screwing women left and right, not lifting a finger, selling occasional interviews. He'd be there with her on every step, he'd make sure he'd make that child realize that fame, early fame has positive AND negative aspects, it's not just about getting your mug out posing for pictures, having paparazzi stalk ur ass, having people scream you name, it's about loosing every inch of privacy, it brings along scrutiny, media hatred. The way Paris has been acting on her twitter for nearly a year clearly show her immaturity and age, she is not aware of the fact that she'll be judged and put under the magnifying glass once she goes out there. In three years from not the media will not be as soft on her as today, they won't be giving her pass. They'll tear her up, and chew her head off, and when that happens and it's going to happen this girl will be in for a rough awakening cuz guess what, if Michael were here he'd help her pick up the pieces, get her help, protect her, but the Jackson's won't be doing so. This family she fights so hard for is going to kick on her while she's down in 5 years from now, you just wait and watch. These children have become free meat for them, and they will do anything they can to exploit them to the fullest, they won't be here to help them pick up their pieces though once the media is done with tearing them apart. Paris is in for a Z grade career and horrendous media coverage, the Jackson's don't give a fuck about her career, or if she's going to end up like La Loony Tune, they're in for themselves only. And what they can get out of any possible deals.
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

BUT everything would be completely different. FACT! -_- The problem is that some people are not achieving understand. -_- The question is very simple: Michael is not here!!!!!!! :shout: :doh: If Michael were here you can be sure that he would be who would take care of career of Paris and guide it. FACT!!!!!!! Now I can imagine who is behind caring career of Paris..... Joe? La Toya? Janet? Randy? Jerma? WHO???? I have chills just thinking. :fear:

Well I hope that Janet is guiding Paris about an acting career. You said it yourself, Michael isn't here. Regardless of your opinion of Janet, you can't deny that she has had a very successful acting career and she definitely would have some good advice for Paris.

We could argue about this for the rest of our lives; "Michael wouldn't want this" "Michael said this:..." "Michael would have...". The thing we all have to accept is that Michael is not here. As Love is Magical has said, the children's lives will not be the same as they would have been had Michael not died.

We, as fans, need to stop thinking we know what is best for the children. We need to realise that we are not in charge of their personal lives or their future careers. When so-called "concerned fans" tweet Paris calling her a spoilt brat and insulting her family which she loves, these fans look delusional. You all call the Jackson family delusional but look at what Paris must think Michael Jackson fans are like. I'll say it again: We are fans of Michael Jackson. We are not involved in the lives of his children. We can not do anything to stop them following their dreams, and personally I don't think we should anyway.

If Michael's daughter Paris wants to be an actress, as a fan of Michael Jackson I will support her decision.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

If Michael's daughter Paris wants to be an actress, as a fan of Michael Jackson I will support her decision.

And if she wants to do porn movie? You'll support her?
If she takes hard drugs , drink alcohol in the streets, you'll support her ?

You'll support this girl JUST BECAUSE SHE'S MIKE'S DAUGHTER?
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

^'As a Michael Jackson Fan', no one is obliged to support each and everything the Jackson family embarks on. All of us have been blessed with intelligence. Use it. Use reason and logic to know what is in line with individual beliefs and morals. Even Michael didn't support many of the family's projects. smdh...

It's your right to support the Jackson family in everything they do. Likewise, it's the right of those who are disappointed in their actions, and don't choose to support them, to express their views. I don't agree with harassing Paris on twitter, but we are free to express our opinions here.

Btw, Janet doesn't seem to be too involved with the kids. She's too busy with her career, new fur clothing line and all. I can bet, from the two aunts, Latoya is more present and involved in their lives. This is quite evident by the way Paris interacts with her on twitter. Plus Latoya's career and wealth aren't on the same sphere as Janet's, giving her more time and reason to suck up to Michael's kids. If you know what I mean...
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

All we are doing here is expressing opinions about a situation. No one pretended to change those kids' guardian (too bad), or make any changes in their lives or decisions because we dont have any power over this. It doesnt mean we cant talk about it. It's the very purpose of this place after all.

We have all read, heard Michael talk about his lack of a real childhood and how much he suffered from it. It's nothing new. But even if he's gone, and obviously if his own family doesnt give a crap about his wishes for his kids, as reasonable and thoughtful people, we can assess what we think is best for any kids, and these in particular, based on our values, principles, and what we know Michael wanted (or not) for his children.

I dont support any decision a kid (or adult actually) makes, and I wont agree with each and every choice those kids make, just because their dad means so much to me. I didnt agree with everything Michael did either.

My feeling on this, is maybe Michael would have let his daughter start at 13. But he would have been there every step of the way, and made sure she didnt forget about her education; he would have made sure she would have worked with professionals, in proper projects.
Does anyone know who these people making the movie are? It doesnt seem very professional to me, and considering the kind of people/deals the Jacksons have involved those children in so far, I'm getting a bit paranoid.
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

^Ben, it's some B-grade low budget production. I hope for Paris' sake it doesn't turn out be a GLE type of production company or a flop like the tribute.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Personally im more concerned as to why a 13 year old is going on a chat show talking about the last two years. are they looking for a memorial moment where she bursts into tears. its totally unnecessary that any child should be out there after what she has gone
through. rehab infront of millions where everyone can watch her talk about what she has been through.

abd as others have said if she was doing this film and mj were here he would be guiding her and protectibg her and would only have her best intrests at heart. u think the same can be said by those that are around her now?
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I see Walgren who kept children from public testimomy paid more attention to them than their own family who seems doesn't care what they are doing, why, how and what for. 13 years old want to be in films right now, and no one from the family coment on it or express any thoughts about. They rather would coment on alleged fake songs, complaine about fake justice or advertise their own books or tributes.
EDIT: And nobody seems to care about what Michael told and dreamt for them.
I think there could be the only one way for her to go into showbiz in such early age: WITH HIM and UNDER THE CARE OF HIM. He was talking about making films with his children.But unfortunately it's impossible.
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Haven't seen this posted, Nestanix on LSA did some sleuthing:

So lets look at more stuff about this movie...

Hollywood is Calling!
Your child could have a chance to star in the next big family movie alongside Larry King, Shawn King, Joey Fatone and Ted Lange! Visit www.lundonsbridge.com to find out how you can send your tape or video for posting on their website. Visitors to the site will get to vote for the winner!
So basically its being made by this guy Dennis Christen and his friends, Larry king and his wife.


I looked him up and his record is not that great


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Producer/Writer/Actor (2 titles)
2007 Hollywood Goes to School (video short) (producer)
1987 Soldiers of Innocence (producer)
Thats all he seems to have done when it comes to movies.

About this video short he made in 2007, "Hollywood Goes to School"...

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The author invites students from a participating school to join him while he tries to find the lead character in this story. Not being able to find her, he and the students look in the novel to try and find clues of her whereabouts.
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Plot Summary for
Hollywood Goes to School (2007)
This Promo Video introduces the story of "Lundon's Bridge and the Three Keys" to American students. It shows that an 8 year-old little girl and a 15 year-old boy use the magic of love and belief in their parents to win the war between the land and the sea. Lundon (the little girl) and Waxer (the teenage boy) end up on many magical adventures during their quest to save the world from pollution. A dolphin turns into a beach bum and a jellyfish queen turns into a human fairy godmother. Written by Dennis H. Christen
So basically he made some kind of intro to this movie in 2007?

And look what else...
go to this link and see the picture...
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2977805056/nm1194118
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Dennis and Paris during dinner at Larry King's home on Michael's 2nd Anniversary of his passing.

So this guy Dennis Christen who is responsible for this movie, he supposedly works at a company called "C-It Entertainment Group, LLC." The name of this company appears at the bottom of the movie's website.

There is no information about this company online! It doesnt seem like they have produced anything even mildly significant...

And there is hardly any information on Dennis. Ironic, considering he was described as a "Best Selling Author and Film Producer."
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

i cannot believe in this. if Michael was here, those people couldn't dare this. Paris is too young to be in show business. Katherine Jackson must open her eyes anymore, doesn't she know how her own son had lost his childhood and this made her own son sad and sad? And also Michael always says how happy he is that his kids live regular lives. First Oprah, then Ellen. I think Ellen loves Michael and won't ask ugly questions, but this movie and this show is not proper for Paris as a kid. La Toya is not a role model for Paris, but unfortunately i see that she is.. :cry:

I don't care what the reason is these kids shouldn't be in the public eyes, shouldn't be in this dirty show business until they will be adults. Michael is crying now, i'm sure he is crying. :cry: :cry: because unfortunately sooner or later Paris will be sad, these things will make her unhappy. Because noone protects her as Michael did. i cannot believe in this. before June 25, 2009 people even couldn't take photos of these kids, couldn't see their faces, today they are everywhere... this hurts me :cry: :cry:

Jackson family should do the right thing anymore and please keep PPB away from the cameras. Michael's kids are not money machine!!! Their father's money is enough for them and even for their kids(Michael's grandchildren :cry: ) Some family members should make their own money on their own, work and earn your own money, ok???

ps:sorry for my poor English.

with L.O.V.E.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Michael Jackson was nearly 51 years old, filled up with Benzodiazepines, propofol and God knows what other drugs, and he was STILL complaining about the lack of childhood, all the pain he went thru and still had.

Just wanted to quote this for truth.

Although I believe Michael would have allowed his children to go into show business and he would have supported them to the max. I don't think he will allow that when they were still children.

I see Walgren who kept children from public testimomy paid more attention to them than their own family who seems doesn't care what they are doing, why, how and what for. 1

I was thinking about this yesterday as well. The way walgren avoided to include the children on the trial - because it was public and gaining attention I guess shows his character.

Haven't seen this posted, Nestanix on LSA did some sleuthing:

Thank you. I had a post somewhere on this thread as well about the companies involved. The main company that does the movie has only finished one project which is looking for distribution. The animation company is decent but the main companies involved in this seems to not have any experience or success.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

The thing I'm worried about is that the Jackson family often gets involved in weird business deals. With (no offence) pretty much low life companies. I hope they don't drag these kids into these deals. The more I read about the movie company the less confidence I have in this to have a good ending.

I really wish Janet would be more involved as she has learned how to do good business, unlike the others in the family. She could teach them a lot about showbusiness. Something they would have learned from their father. But she doesn't really seem to be in the picture. She doesn't even live in LA right?
 
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abd as others have said if she was doing this film and mj were here he would be guiding her and protectibg her and would only have her best intrests at heart. u think the same can be said by those that are around her now?

Well, I think we sadly all know the answer to that one...
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Just wanted to quote this for truth.

Although I believe Michael would have allowed his children to go into show business and he would have supported them to the max. I don't think he will allow that when they were still children.



I was thinking about this yesterday as well. The way walgren avoided to include the children on the trial - because it was public and gaining attention I guess shows his character.

When Walgren was on InSession with Brazil, they asked him if he ever considered putting the kids on the stand and Walgren clearly said that he wanted to avoid the situation, because he didn't want them to go through scrutiny a high profile case as that brings along, that alone speaks volumes imo, unlike their own guardian, he actually tried to protect them somewhat and spare them from scrutiny.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I can't remember the exact quote but KJ on Oprah said something about PPB not going into showbiz at a young age because of how Michael expressed how it effected him, I guess a lot has changed since that interview.

I would like to know how Paris got involved with this project, did she apply or was she courted to gain interest/ money for a project that wasn't getting off the ground.

Part of me thinks that Paris is going to have to figure it out for herself now, if it flops then it's too easy to blame us and if it is a success then she can be proud that it is on her own merit and not because of her fathers fans supporting her regardless.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

The thing I'm worried about is that the Jackson family often gets involved in weird business deals. With (no offence) pretty much low life companies. I hope they don't drag these kids into these deals. The more I read about the movie company the less confidence I have in this to have a good ending.

I really wish Janet would be more involved as she has learned how to do good business, unlike the others in the family. She could teach them a lot about showbusiness. Something they would have learned from their father. But she doesn't really seem to be in the picture. She doesn't even live in LA right?

Janet lives in LA and New York for the most part, but has a few other properties too. Obviously with her being on tour, she probably hasn't seen them much over the past year, I think she should have a discussion with Paris about the ups and downs of being a child actress as she got her first role at the age of 7 I think, and she's the only other Jackson whose had a very successful career of her own. I agree that she could teach the kids a lot about the business.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Wow....from veiled for the press to chatting about her life in Ellen in just two-and-a-half years.

Congratulations Katherine.
 
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Just wanted to quote this for truth.

Although I believe Michael would have allowed his children to go into show business and he would have supported them to the max. I don't think he will allow that when they were still children.

David Walgren has a son and daughter of his own so I can see how he definitely used his status as a father played a part in this. A lot of lawyers would have put the kids on the stand as they were the only ones there, but Walgren actively made sure they did not feature, which says a lot.
 
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David Walgren has a son and daughter of his own so I can see how he definitely used his status as a father played a part in this. A lot of lawyers would have put the kids on the stand as they were the only ones there, but Walgren actively made sure they did not feature, which says a lot.

Honestly one line from Walgren's speech carried more emotion than the whole letter from the family, which said a lot too.

The page for the movie is a bit strange to me though. I'm dont care much for the cartoon characters, they dont have the quality of others.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Wow....from veiled for the press to chatting about her life in Ellen in just two-and-a-half years.

Congratulations Katherine.
She's outdoing herself these days
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

And if she wants to do porn movie? You'll support her?
If she takes hard drugs , drink alcohol in the streets, you'll support her ?

Yeah, that's exactly the same as starring in a children's movie. :smilerolleyes:
 
It's funny how almost all of us want Paris to live the way we would want her to. We need to stop and realize that her life is hers and eventhough she's young, very young, If she wants to do this, she should, I dont know why we'd have to complain, but I understand. The movie is for a good cause, and if its her dream to be an actress, then let her. The only think I/we can do is pray that she is in good hands and to hope and wish for the best for her and her sibilings… other than that, I think this is out of our control…


Good luck Paris :) We Love you :heart:


L.o.v.e.
Romi
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

This has shocked me just as much as it has with some of you guys but I'm sick and tired of fools on twitter addressing the Jackson family directly with these crazed comments. If anyone has the temptation to go '@ParisJackson - proceeding with if your dad was alive he would never....' can you all exercise the greatest restraint. It's blooming ridiculous. Fortunately or unfortunately none of us are their guardians and we need to come to terms with it. sooner the better.

Im keeping my fingers crossed for Paris....hope everything goes well. genuinely hope so.
 
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MJJ-777
?"Hey all! December 8, 2011 on the Ellen Degeneres Show, Paris Jackson, Michael's daughter, will be introducing the new Second Edition of LUNDON'S BRIDGE AND THE THREE KEYS with the new cover on it. As many of you know we've changed the age of our protagonist in the story from 8 years old to 13, trying to build a more teen-friendly pull with the public. That is thanks to all your comments and support during our last several years of testing it and now Paris has signed on to star in the up-coming movie and is helping us promote the story and character awareness through the book before the movie is even shot. She's a doll and perfect for this story. Hope you'll all tune in to watch her and support me. Thanks.

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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Janet lives in LA and New York for the most part, but has a few other properties too. Obviously with her being on tour, she probably hasn't seen them much over the past year, I think she should have a discussion with Paris about the ups and downs of being a child actress as she got her first role at the age of 7 I think, and she's the only other Jackson whose had a very successful career of her own. I agree that she could teach the kids a lot about the business.

She is the only one that has real acting experience so you would think she might guide her too. I hope Paris does well but I think she should take things slow and learn her craft. Do school plays and those kinds of things too. I think Michael would support her but I agree with everyone when I think he would want them to be at least adults or a little bit older than 13. We will never know anyways but he was so protective of them that you can't help but think she is still too young for this. We have no control over this. We can just hope for the best and that things will work out okay for her and her brothers.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I'm also worried about users surrounding Paris (as I would about any young person entering the entertainment industre).

This is the point of this discussion.






Well I hope that Janet is guiding Paris about an acting career. You said it yourself, Michael isn't here. Regardless of your opinion of Janet, you can't deny that she has had a very successful acting career and she definitely would have some good advice for Paris.

We could argue about this for the rest of our lives; "Michael wouldn't want this" "Michael said this:..." "Michael would have...". The thing we all have to accept is that Michael is not here. As Love is Magical has said, the children's lives will not be the same as they would have been had Michael not died.

We, as fans, need to stop thinking we know what is best for the children. We need to realise that we are not in charge of their personal lives or their future careers. When so-called "concerned fans" tweet Paris calling her a spoilt brat and insulting her family which she loves, these fans look delusional. You all call the Jackson family delusional but look at what Paris must think Michael Jackson fans are like. I'll say it again: We are fans of Michael Jackson. We are not involved in the lives of his children. We can not do anything to stop them following their dreams, and personally I don't think we should anyway.

If Michael's daughter Paris wants to be an actress, as a fan of Michael Jackson I will support her decision.

:doh:


Well... I'll say it again: If Michael were here, we would not be discussing it. FACT! The problem is not Paris be doing a movie (if that's what she wants it to go ahead and be successful in this, but it is a fact that all of us would be 10000% OK with that if Michael were here. FACT!) the problem is who is behind the career of Paris and who will guide it.

About Janet, she may even be successful to some extent... but I really can not see it helping Paris. For me, Janet does not care and would rather not get involved in matters families. Of course, Janet is more concerned with her own life and career than with others. You can not expect too much of any member of this family. It is a big illusion to expect for it. -_-

Agree and disagree and move on. -_- Many can clap for this, OK.... But is a fact remains that there is something very worrying happening in the middle of it all. -_- And may God care of Paris and her brothers. :angel:

Let's see WHO will be with Paris in the interview.... Of course, Paris will not be alone, someone will be there with her and I bet it will be some family member. :fear:






We can just hope for the best and that things will work out okay for her and her brothers.

This is what we most desire for them and we are cheering a lot for this.
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Rubbish.!!! Want to bet about Foster and Shields background.?????
It is a known fact in the industry that Brooke's mother Teri, was a huge bad ass when it came to protecting her daughter. In a recent documentary about 70's teen idol Leif Garrett, who went on to have a massive drug problem, his mother said that back in the day she used to think Brooke's mother was too strict, but looking back she wishes she had did what Brooke's mom did which was not allow Hollywood leeches to fuck with her kid. This is just one of many stories that are out there about Brooke's mother.

It's sad that the same thing can't be said about MJ's family.
 
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