Paris Jackson begins acting career - Lundon's Bridge - Summary of the book @pg42

Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

That might be a good idea. What the story line sounds like to me, from the little bit that's available, it seems like one that lines up to themes that were very dear to Michael's heart. I am obviously trying to stay optimistic here before totally condemning the project. Of course, this is a separate issue from Paris' involvement.

However, is it possible, knowing how much Michael stayed aware of things, especially projects that he would see as being valuable in awakening the public's awareness to important issues, that he came across this children's book? I believe it came out in ...was 2006? And the first attempt towards making it into a film was back in 2007? Do I have that right?

What if Michael got a hold of this book and read it to his children and that was Paris' first introduction to Lundon's Bridge and the Three Keys? Then she would probably think that her dad would support the project, and hopefully her involvement with it, if he were still here. Not saying he would, how would any of us know how he would think, we were never in his head...just how she could possibly see it.

But keep in mind that all I have suggested is due entirely on speculation and shared only to perhaps offer to us here another perspective.

Thank you for expressing this, it is something that has gone through my mind as well. It's not to say I approve or disapprove of the project, just a possible explanation for the interest Paris is showing in this.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I agree it could be a reason why she likes the project. I dont dislike the story itself, which sounds cute and with values I share, but it's the people possibly involved and the way it's organized that make me wince.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Ain't nothing wrong with starting "small," but small-respectable and small-thrown together with scotch tape are two different things in my opinion.

I understand. It hasn't been made yet and we don't know how it will turn out. It could end up alright.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

As a fan, all I can do is to keep her in my prayers. It's premature to determine whether starring in this film is beneficial or bad for Paris. I don't know the scale of production. I don't know if it's a one-off project. I just don't have enough information to form an opinion.

If the film is well-received, then it's a good opportunity for Paris to work on her talents.

If the film is to be received negatively, then it's a learning experience for Paris. Just like every one of us, Paris will hopefully learn from setbacks and failures. It's not the end of her world. She's so young. She will explore other possibilities in life or further work on her acting.

I realize that Michael's children may not follow the path Michael envisioned. It's the brutal reality I have to accept. Michael is not here anymore and the children's future will never be the same. I told myself to keep an emotional distance from the children.

I think the worst thing a fan can do is to tweet Paris, talk to her like he/she knows exactly what Michael's thought was and voice disapproval before understanding the situation.
This is exactly how I feel, I wholeheartedly agree. :)

looks...amateurish....this doesn'r strike me as a huge launch vehicle in manner of Jaden Smith Karate kid etc...
I am also a little surprised by this. Yes, she has to start somewhere but shouldn't her name at least have got her a role in some bigger movie (like Jaden)? I know people complain that she might have got this role only because of her name, but so what, many people do. It's always about who you know in the business.
Who's her manager anyway? Who works out her deals? Who advises her? The Jacksons have proved to be clueless when it comes to business decisions, and I don't want the kids to associated with them. I don't want the Jacksons failure to taint the children's image and reputation. Hopefully we'll find out more on Thursday.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

^^ Thanks for posting that interview (even tho' you don't approve of it!) Gosh, paris is absolutely determined to follow her dad into the entertainment business. Prince seems to be keeping his options open - which you would tend to do if you're 14.

I remember an interview with i;m pretty sure, adam ant (fab 80s uk popstar - kings of the wild frontier) who went to meet mj at hayvenhurst in the early 80s, and mj said to him something like the key to success is to work with the best - which of course is something he did - quincy, swedian, scorcese, etc. It's advice that his children would be wise to follow - of course you prob have to begin small but work with the absolute best in the industry and then you learn and can grow, just like mj did watching james brown at the apollo. Not with some unheard of author, with some 'unusual' marketing ideas and companies which have absolutely no track record in the filmworld.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Becoming a big star seems to be the thing to do for Paris, the girl can't even handle criticism on Twitter, calling everyone a hater, who does not tweet ''I love you Paris'' a million times over. She has no idea what she's putting herself into by getting into the business this early, it seems like she only sees the bright side of stardom which is fame and stardom, but what about the other side? What about millions of people judging her? People are not going to wear gloves just because she happens to be Michael Jackson's daughter, quiet the contrary. What if she can't act? She is a pretty face, but acting actually requires some talent and people expect even more of her considering who her father was. This will not have a happy ending, it's going to turn ugly eventually and she has no single person around her to tell her, to sit her 13 year old ass down somewhere and wait for another few years, or at least wait till she finds a respected production house who is willing to take her in. There won't be anyone here to help her take care of wounds media is going to cause, once she puts herself on a public platform just like that, she won't be able to hide behind the excuse of ''don't judge since u don't know me'', cuz that doesn't fly when u put urself in a position like that. I'm convinced that this is what Paris wants to do, but I can't help but wonder if certain Jackson's haven't played a huge part in filling her head up with delusions of fame and celebrity. Prince seems to be a lot more level headed than she is, I just hope her dreams and hopes don't get shattered too soon, and regardless of what whomever is claiming Michael would have never tolerated this, not when his child is 13 years old. Never.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Prince, Paris and Blanket being interviewed

Youtube link for those who can't view AH links.

 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

We don't know what Michael would have allowed! Of course I see why we come to the asumption Michael would not have wanted this.. but its 2011 and we cannot judge by what we last knew in 2009.. Michael stated himself back in mid 2000's that he plans to bring them on stage with him.. So we have no idea if the timeing what Michael would have allowed now..

If she came up to him saying I want to go out and act.. We cant say for sure he would have stopped her.. If we really go by what Michael said, he has only said if his child wanted to be in showbiz that he would lay out all what to expect and "Go.. and do it better than I did."

And we do know Michael had a UCLA acting teacher come to the house and basically teach acting.. SO!! I don't think we can jump down the Jackons at this one too much..
 
Hello,
I've been busy with other MJJC projects and I've just got finished reading this whole thread - arrived late,So I'm just going to quote some of the previous posts that most reflect my own thoughts on the topic. I also wanted to point out another post a member made,but can't find it - It stated something about the concern that (using my words here) "If Paris was courted to this movie for no other reason than her last name to bank for sure money."
At first,I sort of thought this way,it's a thought that's crossed my mind,but I just don't have the full info. to make that a fact,therefore I can't make an assessment. I'm leaning towards Paris probably wanted to do this herself,though and I just can't add up "this to being pushed in to by insert name(s)." I actually think this little movie is good... could be a good experince for Paris. I'd actually like to see the movie.

justnat;3551412 said:
Well, OK, I am a parent. Moreover, my daughter is 22 now and finishes her Masters this year. So I guess I have some experience in that regard.
We are not talking about "stay up late, eat junk food, skip school, play video games all day, etc." We are talking about the young teenager who wanted to be an actress for some time. She did improvs with her dad. She took acting lessons. She is pretty persistent.
Yes, the role of the parents is to decide what's good and what's bad. But the role of the parents is also encourage the dreams and help achieve them. I know enough people who lost their dreams because of parents' practical approach. "It is too early", "you are not good enough", "this is not practical"
There is a great poem by Philip Larkin called "This be the verse". I cannot post it hear, it has a bit of colourful language. However, I do recommend it as food for thought.

justnat;3551427 said:
Disagree again. Internet is a part of modern live. It it, but all means, NORMAL for a teenager to have twitter. I personally might like it or not. This does not change the fact that if you shield the children too much, they will have no notion of a real word out there. And the cyber word, sadly, is the part of this real word.
I read Paris twitter several times. Generally, she handles challenges quite well. As an average teenager.

MJsSusie;3551463 said:
Matty i couldn't have said it better even though i have tried. We supported Michael in everything he tried why cant we do the same for paris? Paris is 13 she is not 5 years old being pushed into show biz by her greedy father unlike Michael. Paris studied acting and for her to take on this movie as a first only proves that she has her mind right.
How do we know what Michael would or wouldn't want from his children? How do we know this is KJ or Joe pushing them? This could be something (heaven forbid) that the kids ACTUALLY WANT TO DO ON THEIR OWN. couldn't that be? We have no say in their lives. If they make mistakes growing up they will learn from them. We can not keep sitting here and saying you disagree with this or that. you think everything these kids want to do is pushed at them from the family. well like i said and will keep sayin they have minds of their own. Prince and Paris both want to do acting and if this is what they want why not support them as we did Michael?

kindofdisco;3551546 said:
So let's break this down:

1. So far this has NOTHING to do with the Jackson family. There is no reports of them getting Paris into this. This seems to be her own decision. So stop with the "they're just trying to make money off her!!" bs.

2. We all know Paris wants to be an actress. She takes acting classes. That's just what she wants to do, and I respect that.

3. Michael said himself in Moonwalk that if his children want to get out there and act/sing/dance/whatever, he'd step aside and let them do it. So again, calm yo tits people and stop saying, "THIS ISN'T WHAT MICHAEL WANTED!!"

4. We're fans. We're only fans. We're not part of the family. We don't speak for Michael. Stop putting words in his mouth.

5. Paris is Michael's daughter. Support her. I've already seen the disgusting comments MJ fans have directed towards her on twitter. I can't believe this is what the fan community has come to. Leave her alone.

Edit: Just saw the comment "Paris is being raised by the same people that raised Michael, yadda yadda yadda", to which I will say:

Michael has said himself many times that his parents did NOT push him into show business. He wanted to sing. And I'll be damned if Joseph didn't do a good job of promoting those kids and getting them all the way to being signed at Motown. That's determination and hard work. Yes there's some messed up things that happened later, but Joseph played a major role in the early development of the Jackson 5.

Staffordshire Bullterrier;3551600 said:
I don't really understand why you guys are complaining so much, maybe its her decision, and nothing but? :). Please don't get mad at me, but Michael always said he wanted a normal childhood for his children, she had a pretty normal one if you ask me. Michael also said in a interview, i think it was with Barbara Walters that if his children wanted to follow him, or just be in the showbizz as well, think about the good and bad things...and if you still want it, then good luck and get out there.

So unless i missed something, this is how i think about.

earthlyme;3552206 said:
It's funny how almost all of us want Paris to live the way we would want her to. We need to stop and realize that her life is hers and eventhough she's young, very young, If she wants to do this, she should, I dont know why we'd have to complain, but I understand. The movie is for a good cause, and if its her dream to be an actress, then let her. The only think I/we can do is pray that she is in good hands and to hope and wish for the best for her and her sibilings… other than that, I think this is out of our control…
Good luck Paris :) We Love you :heart:

L.o.v.e.
Romi


I've seen the tweets towards Paris on Twitter as I'm on there everyday via MJJCLegacyTeam and some are mean and some are well..as a member said in previous post "Makes MJ Fans look like nutters" - elusive moonwalker - I normally agree with alot of your posts,and I've only quoted you below because I don't think the whole you're not a 'real fan' because you joined a fan forum post June 25th, 2009 is fair or even right. My humble opinion. When I went back to quote you I seen that you edited out that part (maybe you had a change of mind) IDK ,but how this post of yours stuck out to me other than the obvious was some quoted you before edit and bolded the sentence I question and completely thinks that's acceptable.
People can and are fans of artists and esp. majors artists (like Michael Jackson) and whether one joins a fan forum or not dosen't make them less a fan or less knowledgeable to the life of said artist...even though the artist in this case passed away - to me that's a reason one would want to join a fan forum so they could be around other understanding souls and celebrate the life and legacy. There's senior staff and all types of staff here who joined post 06.25.09.
I'm staff and work on honouring preserving & defending MJ's Legacy and I joined this particular forum post 06.25.09 I waited till August 2009 out of respect of the forum to join to give time for members to mourn in their familiar community. And if you're not pointing out those who joined post 06.25.09 (sorry if I mis-understood) which still seems relevant because as I said above the whole "you're not a 'real fan' because you joined a fan forum insert date here" and "you're not knowledgeable enough etc." still applies. I'm not trying to 'pick' on you at all and the majority of my thought is what needs be said on that topic. My two cents.

With the L.O.V.E.
:heart:
souldreamer7

elusive moonwalker;3551832 said:
Personally im more concerned as to why a 13 year old is going on a chat show talking about the last two years. are they looking for a memorial moment where she bursts into tears. its totally unnecessary that any child should be out there after what she has gone
through. rehab infront of millions where everyone can watch her talk about what she has been through.
abd as others have said if she was doing this film and mj were here he would be guiding her and protectibg her and would only have her best intrests at heart. u think the same can be said by those that are around her now?
and i have to laugh at the fans/stans who turned up 2 mins before june 09 and try yo act like they have clue.

ExoticPrincess;3551973 said:
^Good one Elusive, and soooo true!:yes:
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Hello,
I've been busy with other MJJC projects and I've just got finished reading this whole thread - arrived late,So I'm just going to quote some of the previous posts that most reflect my own thoughts on the topic. I also wanted to point out another post a member made,but can't find it - It stated something about the concern that (using my words here) "If Paris was courted to this movie for no other reason than her last name to bank for sure money."
At first,I sort of thought this way,it's a thought that's crossed my mind,but I just don't have the full info. to make that a fact,therefore I can't make an assessment. I'm leaning towards Paris probably wanted to do this herself,though and I just can't add up "this to being pushed in to by insert name(s)." I actually think this little movie is good... could be a good experince for Paris.














I've seen the tweets towards Paris on Twitter as I'm on there everyday via MJJCLegacyTeam and some are mean and some are well..as a member said in previous post "Makes MJ Fans look like nutters" - elusive moonwalker - I normally agree with alot of your posts,and I've only quoted you below because I don't think the whole you're not a 'real fan' because you joined a fan forum post June 25th, 2009 is fair or even right. My humble opinion. When I went back to quote you I seen that you edited out that part (maybe you had a change of mind) IDK ,but how this post of yours stuck out to me other than the obvious was some quoted you before edit and bolded the sentence I question and completely thinks that's acceptable.
People can and are fans of artists and esp. majors artists (like Michael Jackson) and whether one joins a fan forum or not dosen't make them less a fan or less knowledgeable to the life of said artist...even though the artist in this case passed away - to me that's a reason one would want to join a fan forum so they could be around other understanding souls and celebrate the life and legacy. There's senior staff and all types of staff here who joined post 06.25.09.
I'm staff and work on honouring preserving & defending MJ's Legacy and I joined this particular forum post 06.25.09 I waited till August 2009 out of respect of the forum to join to give time for members to mourn in their familiar community. And if you're not pointing out those who joined post 06.25.09 (sorry if I mis-understood) which still seems relevant because as I said above the whole "you're not a 'real fan' because you joined a fan forum insert date here" and "you're not knowledgeable enough etc." still applies. I'm not trying to 'pick' on you at all and the majority of my thought is what needs be said on that topic. My two cents.

With the L.O.V.E.
:heart:
souldreamer7

I'm glad you caught that souldreamer7. Off Topic: @elusive For the record, MJJC wasn't and isn't the only Michael Jackson fan board although it may be the most renown. I for one, was a member of MJNO +MJEOL since 2003 and the KOP board since 2005. But that doesn't matter there are many long time and very special fans that have yet to even register online, they may have their reasons doesn't make anyone else on here that much more of a fan than though. I also don't think the feeling of superiority based on "seniority" is in line with MJJC's mission. Maybe you'd prefer this special place to turn into a ghost town by chasing everyone off. I've noticed that you have a very condescending tone and I just had to express my feelings about this since it was brought up.

I know it can be hard but just try to be nice and don't take others for granted. We're all here for Michael and thats all that matters even if we don't see eye to eye on many issues. Michael's special ability was in bringing people together from all different backgrounds. We all have a story and that affects how we see things which is why we argue our opinions out sometimes but to question one's "seniority" in the fan community is not something that Michael would ever go for. Besides I don't think many celebrities can say that post death they've had much activity going on on their fan boards but Michael is forever and be glad that the numbers are increasing on MJJC regardless of the situation.
 
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Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

:wacko:








Another interview.... :fear: :doh: :sigh: The press must leave the PPB alone. :perrin:

Sorry but I don't see what problem you had with that short access hollywood interview....if anything, small interviews like this help to humanise Michael in the eyes of the skeptical public because it shows how polite and nice his children are - which is all a great testament to Michael and how he raised them.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I know Ellen will be kind to her. I remember last year when katherine and the kids were on oprah, I wished they were with ellen to be honest. If they had to talk to somebody. I think it's okay to ask them about the cirque show and what they liked. The show is about their father.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

We don't know what Michael would have allowed! Of course I see why we come to the asumption Michael would not have wanted this.. but its 2011 and we cannot judge by what we last knew in 2009.. Michael stated himself back in mid 2000's that he plans to bring them on stage with him.. So we have no idea if the timeing what Michael would have allowed now..

If she came up to him saying I want to go out and act.. We cant say for sure he would have stopped her.. If we really go by what Michael said, he has only said if his child wanted to be in showbiz that he would lay out all what to expect and "Go.. and do it better than I did."

And we do know Michael had a UCLA acting teacher come to the house and basically teach acting.. SO!! I don't think we can jump down the Jackons at this one too much..
If no one else on this planet would allow this to happen, why would MJ? It's like you're saying, unlike everyone else, MJ wouldn't want the best folks out there to launch his kids careers. He wants what happened to him, to now happen to his kids.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I know Ellen will be kind to her. I remember last year when katherine and the kids were on oprah, I wished they were with ellen to be honest. If they had to talk to somebody. I think it's okay to ask them about the cirque show and what they liked. The show is about their father.
I have always liked Ellen also. I really do expect her to be great with Paris.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I think Paris CAN act. I saw a trailer she, Prince and Blanket made for their acting class. Somehow it got leaked and landed itself on youtube. Paris says a few lines and she is convincing and I think she can act. This was just some 2 min trailor clip created in for their acting class, but I did see potencial from her in there.
 
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Sorry but I don't see what problem you had with that short access hollywood interview....if anything, small interviews like this help to humanise Michael in the eyes of the skeptical public because it shows how polite and nice his children are - which is all a great testament to Michael and how he raised them.

I think they are very much under the spotlight, just that. I feel (we all) more comfortable if Michael were on their side. *big sigh*
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Becoming a big star seems to be the thing to do for Paris, the girl can't even handle criticism on Twitter, calling everyone a hater, who does not tweet ''I love you Paris'' a million times over. She has no idea what she's putting herself into by getting into the business this early, it seems like she only sees the bright side of stardom which is fame and stardom, but what about the other side? What about millions of people judging her?

I do agree with this. When you get criticised you need to learn that everyone is not a 'hater' because they criticise you, and that really shows to me that she is still a child in regards to her responses. I hated when I was criticised when I was that age, and had the same attitude. It was when I became an adult you learn that's a way of life and you learn from criticism, not just decide everyone that doesn't like what you have done is against you.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I absolutely love Paris, Prince and Blanket.

I have a daughter 13, and son 15......very close to PPB's ages. I'd be totally stoked if my kids got chosen for this part. Hence I've learned to calm down about PPB and realise that they too should live like any other ordinary folks.

My initial reaction was WHY SO SOON! 2 years to mourn, adjust to new living arrangements, go to a private school, living under the trial, facing the press and public scrutiny, getting to know your cousins, aunts n Uncles. Be OUT THERE on twitter, AIM and formspring before that........

A HECK of a lot achieved in 2.5 years!

But kids today are more resilient than the kids of 1960's.

I don't doubt that Paris CAN ACT. (She's been going to lessons and did so with her dad before)

Back of my mind I question the directors bias.......to choose Paris as an ACTRESS VS Paris JACKSON by NAME.

But having said all that, I wish her LUCK......and hope that she will achieve this scenario soon......

and hope that she becomes famous in her own right (because she has learnt how to entertain from THE GREATEST entertainer of all!)


PARIS! PARIS! Talk to me PARIS!
Reporters clicking their cameras away........scrambling to talk to her......

and may it be that one day, she will stand on her own, in her name and it will be a case of


MICHAEL JACKSON.....WHO?
 
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I'm glad you caught that souldreamer7. Off Topic: @elusive For the record, MJJC wasn't and isn't the only Michael Jackson fan board although it may be the most renown. I for one, was a member of MJNO +MJEOL since 2003 and the KOP board since 2005. But that doesn't matter there are many long time and very special fans that have yet to even register online, they may have their reasons doesn't make anyone else on here that much more of a fan than though. I also don't think the feeling of superiority based on "seniority" is in line with MJJC's mission. Maybe you'd prefer this special place to turn into a ghost town by chasing everyone off. I've noticed that you have a very condescending tone and I just had to express my feelings about this since it was brought up. I know it can be hard but just try to be nice and don't take others for granted. We're all here for Michael and thats all that matters even if we don't see eye to eye on many issues. Michael's special ability was in bringing people together from all different backgrounds. We all have a story and that affects how we see things which is why we argue our opinions out sometimes but to question one's "seniority" in the fan community is not something that Michael would ever go for. Besides I don't think many celebrities can say that post death they've had much activity going on on their fan boards but Michael is forever and be glad that the numbers are increasing on MJJC regardless of the situation.
i wasnt talking about ppl joining the boards post 09 the boards are a very small thing. and most of the hardcore/follower fans dont even post on the boards now or before 09.my issue is with fans say like tajj malik ppl who didnt care for mj pre 09 and in some instances they were nothing more than hater aka charles thomson. theres also the issue of those that defend the jacksons yet ask them about what went on with randy in the early 00's and they have no clue what u are on about yet that doesnt stop them from defending the family or attacking those that do cause they either where here when it happened or learnt about it afterwards whether ppl joined this board 10 years ago or 10 months ago is irrelevent. i never even talked about that. as i said most of my friends i sat outside hotels with and travelled to see mj with dont go on any boards .the comment came because a poster on here was attacking another poster. they were supporting the family as normal and added in a comnent of ive been a fan for four years and know x y and z. my comment was directed at them.
 
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It does not matter if Paris can act or not. If some of you want to be see no evil hear no evil go right ahead not me. I refuse to overlook the greed in that family and how they treated the child star they had.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Yashi talks about Paris being a actress and she says she's a natural and great (at acting). The interviewer asked Yashi that as a family member does she want to steer Paris at an opposite direction and Yashi said it isn't her decision, it's Katherine's. Yashi also says that it

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2011/11/video_michael_jacksons_niece_shares_family_memories.php

Good interview
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

Yashi talks about Paris being a actress and she says she's a natural and great (at acting). The interviewer asked Yashi that as a family member does she want to steer Paris at an opposite direction and Yashi said it isn't her decision, it's Katherine's. Yashi also says that it

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2011/11/video_michael_jacksons_niece_shares_family_memories.php


I love the way she talked about her memory with Michael.
Michael can signal the bird. lol wow
That's amazing.
 
Re: Paris Jackson to appear on Ellen - December 8th (Begins acting career)

I smell Latoya behind this.
 
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