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Possible reason 3T (Taj, Taryll & TJ) are against the Cascio track??

LindavG said:
I know that, and that's what I find so hypocritical. On the one hand they tell the fans that almost half the album is fake, but knowing this they do encourage all of us to go out and buy it. The damage has already been done.
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Hi Linda, I think what happened is maybe Michaels voice was on a recording they listened to when they brought the specialists in. After they authenticated Michael's voice they turned it over to production and that is likely where things went wrong. Sony didn't have full tracks but since the beat was so nice they probably said get someone to fill in those parts.Then there would have been an incredible difference, so they probably decided to have this guy do the whole run through and maybe Michael's voice is accenting in different parts. I never bothered to hear it again. That first night was too sad for me. 3 T and the family just like many of us knew something was horribly wrong and they probably know more than us. A lot of fans just want us to all shut up so we can get the CD but I've always felt even if you sacrifice the things you want or your own life, you fight for what you know is right. Even if it were 100 % Michael on the CD what they released was not appropriate, they ignored his family who tried to speak up but I imagine the secret Sony 250 mil. contract probably allowed for some fillers. I personally think they took it to a new level. It's either that or think Teddy Riley screwed up but his work speaks for it's self.

3T I'm sure spoke out like all of us have done trying to prevent a tragedy of justice, because Michael deserves the best and they are not respecting that. They aren't even truly caring about the fans and we're their market. No one who has ever loved Michael wants his CD to fail. Sony does, or that is what everything seems to point to.

We the fans of Michael's who stood against Sony putting those songs on there did so in efforts of honoring Michael. They are now saying, we're too late-it's in production but it's not too late because we will boycott all of Sony's musical artists EXCEPT Michael Jackson starting today! If they don't want to listen to us then I think why should we listen to them.

Don't be mad at 3T and accusing them for doing what they believed to be right. We all should buy the CD because if Sony wants it to fail you can bet they're up to something serious. Let's examine GAZs poll. majority against almost 50 split but 50 confused. Who would sink money into that market unless you wanted to lose money. But that's a whole other discussion for another time.

Please back off of 3T
 
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Where's the popcorn? >>>
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let's wait for the alleged 3T songs with Cory Rooney when they will be included in a new album ! i'm sure you will see MJ kids promoting them on another Oprah show !
 
Taj says this

On Monday 15th November 2010, @tajjackson3 said:
"HOLD MY HAND" was the last song my uncle Michael every played to me in person. He was SO PROUD OF IT. I'll never forget that smile he had on his face as the song played through the speakers (in his room) at the Palms Hotel in Vegas. After the song was over, he asked me what I honestly thought of it. I told him it was a worldwide number one song and that it was going to be a huge. He was so happy to hear that.
I did give the song one slight criticism though. I told my uncle that he needed to be singing more in the chorus and at the end of the song... lol. I said that we (the fans) would want to hear his voice more. :)
"Hold my Hand" will be officially released tomorrow, November 15th. I'm definitely excited to buy it as soon as it becomes available knowing that the moment I play it, I will instantly remember the day my uncle first played it to me. It's these memories of him that I hold on to and cherish with all my heart. Words can't express how much I love and miss my uncle Michael.
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LindavG said:
I know that, and that's what I find so hypocritical. On the one hand they tell the fans that almost half the album is fake, but knowing this they do encourage all of us to go out and buy it. The damage has already been done.
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If they feel 70% of the album is without a doubt their uncle, then they're gonna support it

From what they've said, they just want the songs that are questionable to be taken off, which is what a lot of fans and even some non fans want

They don't want the album cancelled or delayed, they just wanted the 3 tracks removed before it went to stores
 
honeysucklejasmine;3077170 said:
Yeah, it was Taj speaking about the 'projects' which were the film TII and the memorabilia tour:

'Even as the decision was made, one other member of the Jackson clan urged caution about any rush to cash in. Taj Jackson, 36, the late entertainer's nephew (the son of his brother Tito), says that the projects would benefit from more "family input" to ensure his uncle's legacy is protected. He adds: "I don't want this to turn into something like 'let's make as much money as we can.'"

There are more of his quotes in the article:
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1918155,00.html

Re the AEG-memorabilia tour:
'The deal, approved Friday by Judge Mitchell Beckloff of Los Angeles Superior Court, is expected to earn Mr. Jackson’s estate up to $6 million. After hearing four hours of mostly closed-door testimony, Judge Beckloff said there was “no question in my mind this agreement is in the best interest of the estate.”
Judge Beckloff noted the lack of a reasonable alternative presented by lawyers for Katherine Jackson, Mr. Jackson’s mother, alluding to a mention of a company starting up in the Middle East that might be able to handle the exhibitions.
“The most foolhardy thing the administrators could do is connect with some start-up company from the Middle East,” Judge Beckloff said.'
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/arts/music/24jackson.html?_r=1
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thanx ..so it is about money not legacy !
 
i do not think MJ was very crazy about HMH, in the same way T is trying to imply.
it is a nice song but , it is not MJ's taste for hits for sure...compared to MJ's hits it is a modest song and iam sure MJ felt the same !


but maye MJ's taste in music had changed ! who knows !
 
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Ohood said:
i do not think MJ was very crazy about HMH, in the same way T is trying to imply.
it is a nice song but , it is not MJ's taste for hits for sure...compared to MJ's hits it is a modest song and iam sure MJ felt the same !


but maye MJ's taste in music had changed ! who knows !
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I have to agree with you Ohood. However i'm sure its my own bias about the song. I'm interested in hearing the new version. I'm not listening to leaks as I want to hear the songs as they are officially released. Counting down the hours to the official release of this song.
 
Ohood said:
i do not think MJ was very crazy about HMH, in the same way T is trying to imply.
it is a nice song but , it is not MJ's taste for hits for sure...compared to MJ's hits it is a modest song and iam sure MJ felt the same !


but maye MJ's taste in music had changed ! who knows !
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I love HMH. But I do NOT believe Taj "you will love the interview with oprah" Jackson.
 
I never would have guessed Michael to be so "passionate" about Hold My Hand. If this is true, I wonder why. That's interesting.
 
Michael Jackson: “Secret” Work Tapes Will Prove It’s His Voice on Tracks (“Hold My Hand” Now Available) | Showbiz411

As Michael Jackson‘s new single, “Hold My Hand,” goes “live” tonight (www.michaeljackson.c om) , I can tell you a bit more about his new album.

There had been some concern that no outtakes existed of the tracks Jackson recorded with Eddie Cascio. Michael’s nephews have gone into overdrive trying to discredit the tracks. They’ve claimed it’s not their uncle’s voice on the recordings.

But now sources tell me that there were “work tapes” made during the Cascio sessions. These aren’t outtakes of the songs, but tapes running in the studio while Michael discussed what was going on with Eddie Cascio and other members of the Cascio family. Jackson’s own kids even make cameo appearances on the tapes. At some point, the work tapes will be released, although it’s unclear by whom. The main thing is, there’s plenty of evidence of Michael Jackson working with Eddie Cascio.

Still, it’s nice to know that the tapes prove once and for all what was going on in the Cascios’ home studio in the summer of 2007. It’s truly, without a doubt, Michael Jackson on the recordings.

There are three Cascio tracks on the new album. “Breaking News,” of course, has already been heard. Last Friday, “Keep Your Head Up” was leaked to the internet. Some people heard it, but Sony’s legal team moved quickly to have it removed. It’s a great record. The third Cascio track, “Monster,” with 50 Cent, remains a mystery, although I’ve heard good things about it.
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http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/1...work-tapes-will-prove-its-his-voice-on-tracks

The Jacksons better reveal their hand soon or they're going to look very very foolish.
 
la_cienega;3079203 said:
Michael Jackson: “Secret” Work Tapes Will Prove It’s His Voice on Tracks (“Hold My Hand” Now Available) | Showbiz411



http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/1...work-tapes-will-prove-its-his-voice-on-tracks

The Jacksons better reveal their hand soon or they're going to look very very foolish.
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Sorry, but it's a bit desperate that you guys post this article in every single topic. It does not prove anything either. Nobody disputed MJ worked together with the Cascios.
 
Re: Possible reason 3T & family are against the Cascio track??

Memefan said:
How are they claiming to be protecting MJ's legacy when his 3 minor kids are bound into a contract with a pornographer...Do you think MJ would care more about 3 songs over his own children??

They lost my respect...not for what they are tweeting...but for turning a blind eye on the real issue. More hypocrisy from the Jacksons....Should be used to it by now.
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That's what I'm talking about, i.e. THE REAL ISSUES!

I think in this particular case, 3T just want to be a part of this new Michael Jackson project by any means necessary. I mean, let's be for real here, being a part of this project could very well "re-start" their own music careers, which has been dead and buried for many years now.

ALL OF THAT ASIDE, where was all of this "passion" when Brian Oxman and Leonard Rowe were running around talking badly about their uncle to anybody who would listen? They speak of wanting to protect their uncle's legacy regarding the 3 Casico songs, yet they allowed Oxman and Rowe to run around spewing nonsense and NEVER said a word.

Shouldn't the protection of the legacy have been started by putting both Oxman AND Rowe in check a long time ago?
 
I'm sorry, but I've got to call shenanigans on this thread. If people would rather believe 3T want to destroy their uncle's legacy, rather than believe 3T genuinely do doubt the authenticity of some of the tracks, then some serious soul searching needs to take place.

Seriously.
 
kopwatcher said:
I'm sorry, but I've got to call shenanigans on this thread. If people would rather believe 3T want to destroy their uncle's legacy, rather than believe 3T genuinely do doubt the authenticity of some of the tracks, then some serious soul searching needs to take place.

Seriously.
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No one is saying they want to destroy their uncle's legacy but the real issues they should be speaking out against are being ignored. Anyways, perhaps the whole family agrees with this portrayal of Michael and the shady characters surrounding the kids. The only thing that seems to concern them are songs. To me, MJ was more than that.
 
They simply wanted the questionable songs taken off the album.

And we don't know how they feel about other issues. We don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes and there's obviously division in the family. Taj didn't even know the kids were being interviewed until the whole taping was done
 
la_cienega;3079203 said:
Michael Jackson: “Secret” Work Tapes Will Prove It’s His Voice on Tracks (“Hold My Hand” Now Available) | Showbiz411

Michael’s nephews have gone into overdrive trying to discredit the tracks. They’ve claimed it’s not their uncle’s voice on the recordings.

But now sources tell me that there were “work tapes” made during the Cascio sessions. These aren’t outtakes of the songs, but tapes running in the studio while Michael discussed what was going on with Eddie Cascio and other members of the Cascio family. Jackson’s own kids even make cameo appearances on the tapes. At some point, the work tapes will be released, although it’s unclear by whom. The main thing is, there’s plenty of evidence of Michael Jackson working with Eddie Cascio.
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http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/1...work-tapes-will-prove-its-his-voice-on-tracks

The Jacksons better reveal their hand soon or they're going to look very very foolish.
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Re: Possible reason 3T & family are against the Cascio track??

Big Apple2 said:
That's what I'm talking about, i.e. THE REAL ISSUES!

I think in this particular case, 3T just want to be a part of this new Michael Jackson project by any means necessary. I mean, let's be for real here, being a part of this project could very well "re-start" their own music careers, which has been dead and buried for many years now.

ALL OF THAT ASIDE, where was all of this "passion" when Brian Oxman and Leonard Rowe were running around talking badly about their uncle to anybody who would listen? They speak of wanting to protect their uncle's legacy regarding the 3 Casico songs, yet they allowed Oxman and Rowe to run around spewing nonsense and NEVER said a word.

Shouldn't the protection of the legacy have been started by putting both Oxman AND Rowe in check a long time ago?
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Big difference between people running around the press with hearsay and having questionable tracks put on an album and advertised as being sung by Michael Jackson. I'm not saying one side is right or wrong, but there is a difference.
 
Guys to clear one thing up that has been happening a lot here we do not allow RF articles to be posted here. Just because he's suddenly changed his tune about Michael doesn't excuse the foul things he wrote about him when he was alive so no more RF articles.
 
In the locked thread about Taryll's recent tweet, it was said he was "hijacking" the album


Like I said before, Taryll never said he was against the album. He and his brothers were against putting the 3 questionable tracks on album. He's been supporting the album
 
Sophielo said:
Guys to clear one thing up that has been happening a lot here we do not allow RF articles to be posted here. Just because he's suddenly changed his tune about Michael doesn't excuse the foul things he wrote about him when he was alive so no more RF articles.
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I agree. The man has written some really inaccurate stuff about Michael

Like the saying goes "you can't put water in poison. It's still going to be poison"
 
Memefan said:
Start reading these tweets from the bottom:


IAMMjJackson Mj Jackson
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
40 minutes ago

IAMMjJackson Mj Jackson
BOYCOTTING THIS ALBUM OR TRYING TO CREATE MORE CONTROVERSY, IS DAMAGING TO MICHAEL'S LEGACY AND IN TURN HARMING THE RESULTS FOR HIS KIDS.
40 minutes ago

IAMMjJackson Mj Jackson
TEDDY IS TELLING THE TRUTH! FANS GOING AGAINST THIS TRACK AND OTHERS, WHICH ARE BEING RELEASED, IS A DIRECT INSULT TO MICHAEL!
41 minutes ago

IAMMjJackson Mj Jackson
JM WANTED TO FEATURE ANOTHER PAUL ANKA TRACK FOR GOD'S SAKE, AND SOME OTHER OLD SONGS HE PROBABLY MADE SIDE DEALS ON!
44 minutes ago

IAMMjJackson Mj Jackson
P HAS COMMENTED AGAINST HER WILL. THEY WERE PLAYING ON KEYBOARDS WHILST THEIR DAD WAS SINGING THESE SONGS. DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
45 minutes ago

IAMMjJackson Mj Jackson
AS FAR AS IMPOSING P&P TO SIGN OFF ON A LETTER THAT SUGGESTS THEY ALSO BELIEVE THE TRACK TO BE A FAKE. TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, IT IS NOT!
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mj_brainiac said:
In the locked thread about Taryll's recent tweet, it was said he was "hijacking" the album


Like I said before, Taryll never said he was against the album. He and his brothers were against putting the 3 questionable tracks on album. He's been supporting the album
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Right the REAL questions is WHY 3T having problems with the 3 tracks and WHY those Cascio tracks THEY going hard after them...
 
potpot said:
Right the REAL questions is WHY 3T having problems with the 3 tracks and WHY those Cascio tracks THEY going hard after them...
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If they feel like many fans do, that the vocals don't sound like their uncle, that would be the biggest reason :lol:

Some fans realized that the Cascios and Porte registered the songs with the Library of Congress 2 days after Michael died

The whole "all outtakes or other tracks were deleted" thing doesn't sound right either....

we'll find out one of these days what's really going on

I don't blame 3T or John McCain for the suspicions, because alot of people had the "Who is that singing?" reaction when hearing Breaking News. The brothers are supportive of the album and is encouraging the fans to buy it. But at the same time, they were told the lead vocals on the songs were 100% Michael, and I think we can all agree that it's not to some extent

I don't blame Teddy either. He was doing this for his friend and I definitely had to be difficult to make a song for someone he considered one of his best friends.....and that friend not be there..... I can't imagine the pain:(
 
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