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T-Mez on Today Show

But doesn't all the defense have to do is plant some doubt in the jury's mind?
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its not realy as easy as that. in every case u have two sets of theories two sets of evidence. its not like if the defence give their theory of what happened and because that theory makes their client look innocent then the jury has to aquit. if that were the case u would never get a conviction.its about whos more believeable (unless its a case with DNA etc.) its about murray showing he wasnt recklessnes. yes ppl say the pros is the one that has to do the proving. but not in a case like this imo where u arent proving it was murray who committed the crime like with other cases where the person says blatently it wasnt me. this is about whether what he did was neglegent and its upto him to explain why his actions werent and why he did the things he did. just as much as its upto the pros to say they were

The defense can say that after all what murray did was not illegal. He was using his professional judgement as a doctor. Yes, it was flawed judgement, reckless even but not illegal. Maybe a juror will start thinking, well, after all he is a doctor and who am I to second guess a doctor...then what happens?
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let them say that to the jury. you realise your statement is an admittance of guilt? u admitted it was reckless. thats the MS charge.whether giving dip is legal is irrelvent to the charge. hes not charged with giving mj an illlegal drug
 
Well the defense has started to prepare the grounds so they can sow the seeds of doubt. Ruffalo's testimony gave them an opening. It looks as if that could seriously be the way they will go...Michael did it to himself, accident or on purpose being irrelevant.
The jury sure won't have any fans on it, hopefully it won't have any closet haters. And if they look strictly at the evidence, if the prelim is any indication, only one logical conclusion should be drawn. But juries, I think, can be fickle things. I've not seen murray speaking except for that YT video and his "I am an innocent man" so don't know how he comes across in person.

Ah well, all this speculation gives me a headache. March will come soon enough, won't it and then the nail biting begins...

Think I'll go and be BAD now :D
 
Well the defense has started to prepare the grounds so they can sow the seeds of doubt. Ruffalo's testimony gave them an opening. It looks as if that could seriously be the way they will go...Michael did it to himself, accident or on purpose being irrelevant.
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they have said that for a long time so its nothing knew. its the only defence he has.well the most logical one when u start saying the NOI and bodyguards did it or someone elsecame in the room. well its not even a defence as it doesnt defend his negligence of giving it in the first palce with no equipment/no monitoring and as the coroner said he would still class it as homicide even mj did it. the judge will play a role. he may tell the jury u may think mj did it himself but that is irrelvent to the charge and u cant find murray not guilty because u thought mj did it.

the jury may have some fans on there was in 03-05.

end up the day no point worrying about things we have no control over. this isnt 03 -05 so evne though it wil lbe horrendous if he walks at the end of the day its not going to change much interms of us having mj. unlike 03-05
 
ScrEAm.Jack5on said:
Yeh I saw the video.. he said 'MJ has two white children, and one latino child'... :/ then talked about MJ wanting to adopt kids from all races.. but anyway, that's off topic sorry for bringing it up, I only saw the video the other day & it peed me off a little.

He has done a lot for Michael :)
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Do you have a link for the video? I must have missed it. Thanks in advance.:flowers:
 
Originally Posted by ScrEAm.Jack5on
Yeh I saw the video.. he said 'MJ has two white children, and one latino child'... :/ then talked about MJ wanting to adopt kids from all races.. but anyway, that's off topic sorry for bringing it up, I only saw the video the other day & it peed me off a little.

He has done a lot for Michael :)
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Just to clear this up quickly! The reason why T-mez said that about MJ kids was because in this interview he mentioned what MJ said on LWMJ documentary about how he wouldn't mind adopting kids!

For some reason T-Mez thought it related to PPB! o_O But, He wouldn't know something like that cause he never ask MJ nor was their for that! He was hired only to help MJ win his case!

So I don't and wouldn't take that part serious! But, unfortunately I seen fans on another forum take that interview as some sort of proof and that's wrong!

Anyways, like u said T-Mez did good for MJ! That's what's important!:yes:
 
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Good to hear Mesereau's thoughts about this case involving Conrad Murray and what he did to MJ. Mesereau is an upstanding attorney.

And is Chernoff out of his doggone mind? He had some nerve saying, "Dr. Murray is looking forward to the opportunity to tell his side of the story."

Murray HAD an opportunity to tell what happened back on June 25, 2009. Instead, he chose to tell the paramedics, and the doctors at the medical center, a bunch of different stories.

The jury is going to notice that Murray was contradicting himself all over the place in words and in action.

Dr. Murray is looking forward to the opportunity to tell his side of the story. Yeah right!!

Anything that Murray says now will be unbelievable. The words "Pathological Liar" are practically hanging over his head like a bright neon sign that has been turned on at nighttime and his attorneys are going to have a hard time trying to turn it off.

The prosecution isn’t going to have a hard time showing the jury all the things that Murray was trying to cover up, though, because it is totally obvious.
 
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Erikmjfan said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41278781#41270696
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gee..i wonder why HE never had the need to write a book for profit, using MJ's name? could it be that HIS motives are PURE, when he speaks, and HE, all by himself, lends more credibility to Michael, than ALL of the 'positive' book writers COMBINED? yes. i think so. and that's why TMez is NEVER in any financial straits, to the point where he feels the need to write a 'memoir' about MJ. TMez speaks for FREE. when your motives are pure, life has a way of rewarding you in a positive manner, financially and otherwise.
 
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gee..i wonder why HE never had the need to write a book for profit, using MJ's name? could it be that HIS motives are PURE, when he speaks, and HE, all by himself, lends more credibility to Michael, than ALL of the 'positive' book writers COMBINED? yes. i think so. and that's why TMez is NEVER in any financial straits, to the point where he feels the need to write a 'memoir' about MJ. TMez speaks for FREE. when your motives are pure, life has a way of rewarding you in a positive manner, financially and otherwise.
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^I agree to that somewhat...because, he did feel "Conspiracy" from Jones spoke for everything he could have said that happened in the 05 trial and he helped promote that book and even wrote the forward to it! He said so himself at her book signing! It's on youtube! :) So it obviously shows that he don't mind someone making profit on a book as long as the info is truthful and positive! I agree with him on that one! lol
 
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AllForMJ said:
Anything that Murray says now will be unbelievable. The words "Pathological Liar" are practically hanging over his head like a bright neon sign that has been turned on at nighttime and his attorneys are going to have a hard time trying to turn it off.
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Indeed. It take some special liar's abilities to juggle 3 girlfriends at the same time. On the same day, no less.
 
riviera1992 said:
Indeed. It take some special liar's abilities to juggle 3 girlfriends at the same time. On the same day, no less.
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^^Thats right. Murray has special abilities in general: At a time when he was unemployed he hired some expensive attorneys and engaged a PR firm. He cannot pay his bills but goes on vacations and shopping sprees. He recently murdered someone but is always seen smiling. He did not own a watch and was in a home with no phones. Yet at the same time was on the phone for hours and his phone has the time. He doesn't know Michael's home address, and while he is at Michael's home, he has no clue how to find out the address. Don't forget he can't lift Michael but is seen in a gym lifting weights. Yes special abilities indeed.
 
Petrarose said:
^^Thats right. Murray has special abilities in general: At a time when he was unemployed he hired some expensive attorneys and engaged a PR firm. He cannot pay his bills but goes on vacations and shopping sprees. He recently murdered someone but is always seen smiling. He did not own a watch and was in a home with no phones. Yet at the same time was on the phone for hours and his phone has the time. He doesn't know Michael's home address, and while he is at Michael's home, he has no clue how to find out the address. Don't forget he can't lift Michael but is seen in a gym lifting weights. Yes special abilities indeed.
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^ Yep! Also didn't do CPR right! But, is a "Doctor" with more then 20yrs of experience!
 
yeah Murray is one shady dude.. I hope the truth prevails and God punishes him because Lord knows he killed MJ and he has told lie after lie after lie for the past 18 months
 
ScrEAm.Jack5on said:
I like Mez, but I kind of like him a little bit less after what he said about MJ's kids..

Anyway.. I was wanting to hear his thoughts after the prelim so i'm glad for this, i'm listening now.. seems by the words he used, he kept saying 'reckless', that he thinks it should be murder two.. but then he talks about invol manslaughter being easier to prove, that they have the evidence to prove that already..
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Why? If what TMez is saying is the truth (and TMez knows alot more than us), so be it. TMez has been nothing but good to MJ and I believe in alot of what he say. He did something for MJ that was great and that was to show how that family lied.
 
what he said was prob taken out of context. mj had 3 kids 2 with a white woman and one we dont know. (ppl presume hispanic) there were reports which came from schaffel about mj wanting to adopt some kids from brazil and mj talked about wanting to adopt kids of all races. so thats what he was prob talking about. that it was mjs goal to have kids of all races.blanket is the spit of mj and jr has vitiligo if he were gonna adopt some random kid he wouldnt have bothered with debbie for starters
 
elusive moonwalker said:
what he said was prob taken out of context. mj had 3 kids 2 with a white woman and one we dont know. (ppl presume hispanic) there were reports which came from schaffel about mj wanting to adopt some kids from brazil and mj talked about wanting to adopt kids of all races. so thats what he was prob talking about. that it was mjs goal to have kids of all races.blanket is the spit of mj and jr has vitiligo if he were gonna adopt some random kid he wouldnt have bothered with debbie for starters
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that's exactly what he meant, thanks elusive! in no way he said those weren't Michael's kids, he said "he had two white and one latino child" meaning - Michael was black, but he didn't stick to his own race, he chose mothers of different races for his children, and he also wanted to "adopt a child from every continent", which is consistent to what I heard Michael say himself in an interview a long time ago. god, I can't believe some people... the one man that never betrayed Michael in any way, shape or form, he SAVED MICHAEL'S LIFE, if you care to remember 03-05, and some of us STILL turn on him. lord have mercy!

btw, that interview was with Reel Urban News and got taken off their website, it seems like they take the interviews down after a period of time, the one they did with Travis Payne is gone, too. but it's much ado about nothing anyway.

back on topic - at times like this, I kinda wish Mez was still a prosecutor, he would rip Murray to shreds. I cringe every time I see that "I'm an innocent man, and therefore I plead not guilty" crap, it is SO rehearsed, and SO god damn fake, insincere, it just makes me want to puke. Even when he just sits there and looks around, he looks like he's acting a part. I'm trying very hard to hold back hate, it would eat me alive. :(
 
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T-Mez!!!!!!!
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Let just hope that evil doctor gets what he deserves!!!!!
 
also - is it just me, or is that footage of Michael on top of the SUV used in every friggin' media report? out of million of minutes of footage from the trial - seriously.
 
I'd never heard Mesereau referred to as T-Mez, so I thought this was a thread about some rapper Michael worked with! Haha! Silly me! I was like, duh, when I read the first post.
 
Fluffy_Oz said:
also - is it just me, or is that footage of Michael on top of the SUV used in every friggin' media report? out of million of minutes of footage from the trial - seriously.
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It sure is, isn't it?! SMH I remember when they would exaggerate it by saying he did the moonwalk on the car! :mello: LMAO

That of course never happened! Yet, they act like the public don't have eyes!:smilerolleyes:
 
Fluffy_Oz said:
also - is it just me, or is that footage of Michael on top of the SUV used in every friggin' media report? out of million of minutes of footage from the trial - seriously.
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Its so annoying, it likes ppl get over it already!
 
elusive moonwalker said:
what he said was prob taken out of context. mj had 3 kids 2 with a white woman and one we dont know. (ppl presume hispanic) there were reports which came from schaffel about mj wanting to adopt some kids from brazil and mj talked about wanting to adopt kids of all races. so thats what he was prob talking about. that it was mjs goal to have kids of all races.blanket is the spit of mj and jr has vitiligo if he were gonna adopt some random kid he wouldnt have bothered with debbie for starters
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No, he said what he said. Nothing was out of context.
 
terrell said:
No, he said what he said. Nothing was out of context.
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I saw the interview and T-Mez only said that because he was referring to what MJ said about adopting kids on Living With MJ Documentary!

I didn't take it as he actually knew either way! lol So in that sense, yes people could and did take it out of context!
 
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