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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

SmoothMel7 said:
Do you think MJ really recorded Robert Burns' poems? I really have serious doubts that MJ recorded anything.

David Gest revealed in several interviews that he and Michael Jackson recorded several old Robert Burns poems with new, innovative music. Three of them were ‘Ae Fond Kiss’, ‘A Red, Red Rose’ and ‘Tam O’Shanter’. Gest: "We haven't changed the lyrics but the music is now modern and brought up to date," Gest said. "Michael and I had fun. It's something we have always wanted to do…because he is our favourite poet."
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Assuming this story is true and no disrespect to Michael but even actors struggle to recite Robert Burns' poetry. It isn't easy. It's harder than Shakespeare for many people.

Here's the first two stanzas from Tam o' Shanter:

When chapman billies leave the street,
And drouthy neebors, neebors meet,
As market-days are wearing late,
An’ folk begin to tak the gate;
While we sit bousing at the nappy,
And getting fou and unco’ happy,
We think na on the lang Scots miles,
The mosses, waters, slaps and styles,
That lie between us and our hame,
Whare sits our sulky sullen dame,
Gathering her brows like gathering storm,
Nursing her wrath to keep it warm.

This truth fand honest Tam o’ Shanter,
As he frae Ayr ae night did canter,
(Auld Ayr, wham ne’er a town surpasses,
For honest men and bonny lasses.)
 
JamesCMJJ said:
What info do we have on the Buz Kohan tracks...
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MJ spent about a year writing music with Buz Kohan between 1983-84 for the Peter Pan project, of which four songs exist: “Make a Wish", “Neverland Landing,” “I’m Peter Pan” and “Happy Song”. The first two exist in some state. I believe “Neverland Landing” is complete and “Make a Wish” was at the very least demoed, as Spielberg would regularly put his child to sleep with a cassette of it.


"we also wrote a song called 'Neverland Landing' which was done completely and there is a demo with piano that I played at the house. I have it somewhere but can't put my hands on it immediately." - Buz Kohan
 
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BlackAnon said:
MJ spent about a year writing music with Buz Kohan between 1983-84 for the Peter Pan project, of which four songs exist: “Make a Wish", “Neverland Landing,” “I’m Peter Pan” and “Happy Song”. The first two exist in some state. I believe “Neverland Landing” is complete and “Make a Wish” was at the very least demoed, as Spielberg would regularly put his child to sleep with a cassette of it.
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He had other songs written with Kohan. Do you know more about the other sessions? In my opinion Michaels’ best ballads come from his sessions with Kohan
 
filmandmusic said:
He had other songs written with Kohan. Do you know more about the other sessions? In my opinion Michaels’ best ballads come from his sessions with Kohan
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There’s another song called Heartlight that was rumored to be written by Buz and MJ for E.T. but Matt Forger confirmed to his knowledge the song didn’t exist and no other songs were considered outside of Someone in the Dark
 
BlackAnon said:
MJ spent about a year writing music with Buz Kohan between 1983-84 for the Peter Pan project, of which four songs exist: “Make a Wish", “Neverland Landing,” “I’m Peter Pan” and “Happy Song”. The first two exist in some state. I believe “Neverland Landing” is complete and “Make a Wish” was at the very least demoed, as Spielberg would regularly put his child to sleep with a cassette of it.
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Make a wish is confirmed to have full vocals and is releasable by Joe Vogel. He also said happy song and Peter Pan “were recorded” but it’s unknown if it’s scratch vocals, full vocals, chorus only etc. I’d love to hear them one day!
 
Inthestudiowithmj said:
Make a wish is confirmed to have full vocals and is releasable by Joe Vogel. He also said happy song and Peter Pan “were recorded” but it’s unknown if it’s scratch vocals, full vocals, chorus only etc. I’d love to hear them one day!
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Buz has the songs. As I always say, Michael's music is with the co-writers
 
I Heard Neverland Landing in the office is a reworked version same is the original demo with more effect on it two version is registered in the office Original Démo form 1983 and Reworked Version

The original demo is very classical song a happy song and Is complete
 
TheJacksonUnreleased said:
I Heard Neverland Landing in the office is a reworked version same is the original demo with more effect on it two version is registered in the office Original Démo form 1983 and Reworked Version

The original demo is very classical song a happy song and Is complete
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Jokes asked, I feel like it’s gotta be, right? “Neverland Landing” started in the early 1980s and was somehow on Buxer’s hard drive at the time of MJ’s death. When did MJ revisit it? Why? The initial Peter Pan movie came out in 1994, and a reboot in 2003—maybe he reworked it for one of those? From what I’ve heard of “Neverland Landing,” it definitely fits the vibe of ‘90s Disney movies.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Jokes asked, I feel like it’s gotta be, right? “Neverland Landing” started in the early 1980s and was somehow on Buxer’s hard drive at the time of MJ’s death. When did MJ revisit it? Why? The initial Peter Pan movie came out in 1994, and a reboot in 2003—maybe he reworked it for one of those? From what I’ve heard of “Neverland Landing,” it definitely fits the vibe of ‘90s Disney movies.
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The original demo is very good and Is sound like a song form a Disney movie but about the reworked i Heard it was probrably reworked around 2008 but the version that is registered in the copyright office is form 2009
 
AlwaysThere said:
Jokes asked, I feel like it’s gotta be, right? “Neverland Landing” started in the early 1980s and was somehow on Buxer’s hard drive at the time of MJ’s death. When did MJ revisit it? Why? The initial Peter Pan movie came out in 1994, and a reboot in 2003—maybe he reworked it for one of those? From what I’ve heard of “Neverland Landing,” it definitely fits the vibe of ‘90s Disney movies.
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Probably was on his hard drive because of the ultimate collection I’m guessing.
 
TheJacksonUnreleased said:
I Heard Neverland Landing in the office is a reworked version same is the original demo with more effect on it two version is registered in the office Original Démo form 1983 and Reworked Version

The original demo is very classical song a happy song and Is complete
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For a moment I was thinking to myself, "Oh man, i have to travel all the way to the US to hear bro Michael's unreleased songs T_T ".

Just joking, i was imagining this song as a good vibe orchestral song.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Jokes asked, I feel like it’s gotta be, right? “Neverland Landing” started in the early 1980s and was somehow on Buxer’s hard drive at the time of MJ’s death. When did MJ revisit it? Why? The initial Peter Pan movie came out in 1994, and a reboot in 2003—maybe he reworked it for one of those? From what I’ve heard of “Neverland Landing,” it definitely fits the vibe of ‘90s Disney movies.
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Probably just general purpose
 
Motown literally has hundreds of unreleased J5 songs. I wonder if we'll ever hear the J5 version of "In and Out of My Life". This track was first recorded by Michael October 22nd of 1970 with The Jacksons recording their vocals on the 29th. J5 re-recorded the song again in January and February of 71 but the song ended up being given to The Vandellas in March of 71
 
BlackAnon said:
Motown literally has hundreds of unreleased J5 songs. I wonder if we'll ever hear the J5 version of "In and Out of My Life". This track was first recorded by Michael October 22nd of 1970 with The Jacksons recording their vocals on the 29th. J5 re-recorded the song again in January and February of 71 but the song ended up being given to The Vandellas in March of 71
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Thank you for this info! Would love to hear it with Michaels voice.

I wonder, how many unreleased Motown-songs are still in the vault. I guess not many, as the record company started to release them shortly after they left Motown.

Has anyone count the number of songs from the Motown vault, that are already out there? (released between 1976 until today)
 
ueli84 said:
Thank you for this info! Would love to hear it with Michaels voice.

I wonder, how many unreleased Motown-songs are still in the vault. I guess not many, as the record company started to release them shortly after they left Motown.

Has anyone count the number of songs from the Motown vault, that are already out there? (released between 1976 until today)
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The Jacksons recorded almost 500 songs during Motown and a little over 200 have been released
 
Now that Damien is no longer busy sponsoring the podcast, it would be a good idea to ask him whether the snippet of "Rocker" is actually legitimate or fake. According to @kai, it is a fan-made mix, but it should contain real parts.

 
Saka21 said:
Now that Damien is no longer busy sponsoring the podcast, it would be a good idea to ask him whether the snippet of "Rocker" is actually legitimate or fake. According to @kai, it is a fan-made mix, but it should contain real parts.

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i never said it's a fanmade mix.. i said its real. And Damien already confirmed on twitter if i'm not wrong?
 
Yes it's fake but this is pretty much what I expect the Victory demo to sound like:


Anyone here heard the real demo..? I thought they planned to release it?
 
Victorious said:
Yes it's fake but this is pretty much what I expect the Victory demo to sound like:


Anyone here heard the real demo..? I thought they planned to release it?
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I don't think anyone outside of Queens camp has heard Victory.

Brian May tried to get all 3 songs released in 2012 but The Estate blocked it but eventually approved the release of There Must Be More to Life. My assumption is Estate blocked State of Shock and Victory due to these being intended for The Jacksons project
 
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