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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Hot Street might be the most heard and infamous unreleased song from Michael's catalog.

Honestly I wonder why he didn't include songs that he loved on the b-side of vinyls. Hot Street and Carousel for Thriller, Streetwalker and PoF (as a Pepsi promotion) for Bad, For All Time and either Monkey Business or MISM for Dangerous, Much Too Soon and Innocent Man for HIStory, Xscape, GYWOM and APWNN for Invincible
 
threepea11 said:
Hot Street might be the most heard and infamous unreleased song from Michael's catalog.

Honestly I wonder why he didn't include songs that he loved on the b-side of vinyls. Hot Street and Carousel for Thriller, Streetwalker and PoF (as a Pepsi promotion) for Bad, For All Time and either Monkey Business or MISM for Dangerous, Much Too Soon and Innocent Man for HIStory, Xscape, GYWOM and APWNN for Invincible
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I don't remember which one said it, but either Mike or Quincy believed that B-Sides were essentially useless and that a song should be able to stand on it's own, something along those lines

Bullshit imo lol
 
Fuzball said:
WTF??

Most likely a pirated version of Hot Street has been "officially" released by some guy named Ariiel de Jones.

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HOT STREET (INSTRUMENTAL)​

  • ISWC: T3318767823
  • Work ID: 929580538
  • Total Current ASCAP Share: 80%

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PEREZ CRISTOFER ARIEL MARTNEZASCAP1278324241
TEMPERTON RODNEY LYNNPRS126324204

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ADJ MUSICORP MXASCAP-
Additional Non-ASCAP Publishers

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  • ARIIEL DE JONES
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Pure Unfiltered Brain Damage

This song is so good tho
 
threepea11 said:
Hot Street might be the most heard and infamous unreleased song from Michael's catalog.

Honestly I wonder why he didn't include songs that he loved on the b-side of vinyls. Hot Street and Carousel for Thriller, Streetwalker and PoF (as a Pepsi promotion) for Bad, For All Time and either Monkey Business or MISM for Dangerous, Much Too Soon and Innocent Man for HIStory, Xscape, GYWOM and APWNN for Invincible
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Does anyone know which version of Hot Street was leaked and which one was going to be in Thriller?
 
phantasqued said:
Does anyone know which version of Hot Street was leaked and which one was going to be in Thriller?
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There was only 1 version of Hot Street made, and it was the one that was leaked. If it was included on Thriller, it would've been reworked by QJ, which he never did AFAIK; Slapstick was only a demo
 
Bill Bottrell:

We worked all day and into the night on Feb 28, 1986 on "Bad Girl" including vocals. I'm not sure what level of completion. We never worked on it again.

Since it wasn't worked on more than that day, I can't remember how it sounded.
I maintained strict security, I never took home tapes.
 
I'm alright with "Hot Street" not being on Thriller 40, the song would've stood out way too much in comparison to the songs that ended up on disc 2 which most of them were nothing remarkable to begin with, so I'd prefer that it's saved for a proper album.

What still pisses me off, however, is that they put CGOOTR on the tracklist. Why couldn't have they put on the demo of "Don't Matter To Me" instead? The song has already been released, it technically wouldn't make the Estate waste an unheard song while at the same time it would still give the fans something "new" to enjoy. It would've been a safer pick.
 
ChanceToDance said:
What still pisses me off, however, is that they put CGOOTR on the tracklist. Why couldn't have they put on the demo of "Don't Matter To Me" instead? The song has already been released, it technically wouldn't make the Estate waste an unheard song while at the same time it would still give the fans something "new" to enjoy. It would've been a safer pick.
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They could have chosen Much Too Soon (1981) or Little Susie (1978) instead.
 
ChanceToDance said:
I'm alright with "Hot Street" not being on Thriller 40, the song would've stood out way too much in comparison to the songs that ended up on disc 2 which most of them were nothing remarkable to begin with, so I'd prefer that it's saved for a proper album.

What still pisses me off, however, is that they put CGOOTR on the tracklist. Why couldn't have they put on the demo of "Don't Matter To Me" instead? The song has already been released, it technically wouldn't make the Estate waste an unheard song while at the same time it would still give the fans something "new" to enjoy. It would've been a safer pick.
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Because they would have to pay Paul Anka for using it. All tracks released on Thriller 40 were either completely written/produced by Michael or were already paid for. They chose tracks they don‘t have to pay for anything to anyone else as they didn‘t even want to release that album in the first place.

From what I heard although unconfirmed, Sony half-pressured the Estate to release a new album since they haven‘t released anything in the years prior and when Sony asked about promoting the album, The Estate simply declined it and the most minimal promotion was done by Sony, all I ever noticed was a single Spotify ad that ran only once here in Germany and was like 10sec long
 
threepea11 said:
Instead they confused everyone by releasing Sunset Driver for the 3rd time and saying that it was worked on for Thriller and Bad
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The mix itself was from the Bad sessions by Bill Bottrell, late May '86. They should have included pictures of the tape boxes as well like other artists/estates do for their box sets so we know when certain songs were from too...
 
Eventidescape1 said:
The mix itself was from the Bad sessions by Bill Bottrell, late May '86. They should have included pictures of the tape boxes as well like other artists/estates do for their box sets so we know when certain songs were from too...
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That's the one from Bad 25, Im talking about the Thriller take that leaked with added BGs
 
threepea11 said:
Technically we do have the Thriller take of it
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It was released on Bad 25 and that was basically a mishmash of all the different recordings made for Bad. Matt Forger said so in a Bad 25 interview for a french MJ website I remember.

Some elements were recorded at Hayvenhurst and others during the early Westlake sessions before it was abandoned in late '86.
 
This was an early Thriller list before songs were replaced during the last few weeks of the session

Wanna Be Startin Somethin
Hot Street
The Girl Is Mine
Thriller
Billie Jean
She's Trouble
Nightline
Carousel
The Lady In My Life
 
Eventidescape1 said:
The mix itself was from the Bad sessions by Bill Bottrell, late May '86. They should have included pictures of the tape boxes as well like other artists/estates do for their box sets so we know when certain songs were from too...
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same but I wouldn't be shocked if they were either saving the tape box deep dive for the biopic soundtrack promotion or are all like "a magician nevuh reveals his sekriiss" or some bullshit like that.
 
threepea11 said:
That's the one from Bad 25, Im talking about the Thriller take that leaked with added BGs
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Not sure what you mean. Do you mean Sunset Driver or DBMR?

To reiterate, released mix on Thriller 40 for Sunset Driver IS Bill Bottrell's 1986 mix. Bill suggested on Twitter that MJ pulled it out of the vault and he just did a straight mix of it....
The recording's from OTW era but mixed in '86.
 
Eventidescape1 said:
It was released on Bad 25 and that was basically a mishmash of all the different recordings made for Bad. Matt Forger said so in a Bad 25 interview for a french MJ website I remember.

Some elements were recorded at Hayvenhurst and others during the early Westlake sessions before it was abandoned in late '86.
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I'm talking about the Thriller one that Korgnex leaked, look on the MJ Tracker
 
Eventidescape1 said:
Not sure what you mean. Do you mean Sunset Driver or DBMR?

To reiterate, released mix on Thriller 40 for Sunset Driver IS Bill Bottrell's 1986 mix. Bill suggested on Twitter that MJ pulled it out of the vault and he just did a straight mix of it....
The recording's from OTW era but mixed in '86.
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it was recorded in 82, not during Off The Wall
 
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