The Questions that need answering! LA Coroners

[chocabloc]

why would the body be released so it would sit in a closed coffin at a memorial concert?

why was there need for 2 or 3 autopsy's surely a trained mortician can find what they were looking for originally?

why are the results still not out for the first one?

why when one of their 'supposed' vans was seen in the new fake video of 'apparently MJ' in RTLs words exiting then van , didint they issue a statement denying as such?

why is the only comment they issued for Murrays quote for what drugs were used was "no comment" from the L A Coroners

 

[mjbunny]

Just in case someone doesn't know... the RTL vid is a complete FAKE. RTL made it themselves in some twisted "experiment" to see how gullible people, particularly MJ fans, are. They wanted to see how quickly it spread around the internet and how many people believed it. There was a big report about it tonight on RTL. Here's a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEw_u05T740

You don't have to really know German to get the basic idea. Basically they searched around to find an American-style van, put fake LA Coroner stickers on it and a CA license plate. Then they put some makeup and a dark wig on a guy and had him climb out the back. Jerk-offs.

 

[chocabloc]

it really was f@#king sick to give all fans a glimmer of hope to make something like this at this time of loss.

 

[Marilyn Monroe]

a family can ask for more than one autopsy to be satisfied in the findings.

the LAPD want the findings held back for their investigation. im not sure if the public has the right to see autopsy results if they chose to keep it private either.
but it seems its been leaked now already! and before it was waiting for the toxicology tests to come in, now everything has been in, concluded, and the homicide investigation is still going on.

 

[LindaC781]

What I want to know is this. If there were so many drugs in MJ's house in LA, were there drugs found in Neverland? Why now, all of a sudden, do we find drugs - hard drugs - in the LA home? Where did they come from?

 

[nestacat]

What I want to know is this. If there were so many drugs in MJ's house in LA, were there drugs found in Neverland? Why now, all of a sudden, do we find drugs - hard drugs - in the LA home? Where did they come from?

um...actually they were. Just answering the question...all I am saying is yes, that drugs were found there, nothing more!

I know this link is to TMZ, however, they have the police search pics. There are other news sources for this, but TMZ is the easiest for me search at the moment for the info.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/10/raid-at-michael-jacksons-neverland-ranch-netted-heavy-drugs/

 

[LindaC781]

This leads me to another question. If Propofol was found at Neverland, why did the cops do nothing about that then? I mean, this drug should only be in an operating room right? So why was nothing done about the Propofol found back then??

 

[nestacat]

This leads me to another question. If Propofol was found at Neverland, why did the cops do nothing about that then? I mean, this drug should only be in an operating room right? So why was nothing done about the Propofol found back then??

wish i knew the answer to that question.

 

[kes1984]

I think we know the answers to some of this.

why would the body be released so it would sit in a closed coffin at a memorial concert?
The coronor was finished with Michael's remains by that time. They had already done the autopsy and had retained his brain in order to conduct further tests.

why was there need for 2 or 3 autopsy's surely a trained mortician can find what they were looking for originally?
2 autopsies were performed. The second was apparently at the insistance of the family.

why are the results still not out for the first one?
Results were held off while the investigation is pending. Makes me wonder now though why they are releasing them tomorrow. Is the investigation completed? If so, when will we see some arrests??

why when one of their 'supposed' vans was seen in the new fake video of 'apparently MJ' in RTLs words exiting then van , didint they issue a statement denying as such?
They probably couldn't be bothered justifying it with a response.

why is the only comment they issued for Murrays quote for what drugs were used was "no comment" from the L A Coroners
Can't answer that one. Seems they don't like to make too many comments or statements.

 

[LindaC781]

wish i knew the answer to that question.

But doesn't it bother you? It bothers me...especially the drugs...what the hell were the police doing back then?? Playing tiddly-winks with the shit? I mean really! If this stuff is against the law to have at home NOW, it certainly was against the law to have at home THEN. WHO got it? Where did they get it from? And WHY didn't the police do something about this back then? If they did, maybe Lord Knows, we would still have our Michael!!

 

[nestacat]

But doesn't it bother you? It bothers me...especially the drugs...what the hell were the police doing back then?? Playing tiddly-winks with the shit? I mean really! If this stuff is against the law to have at home NOW, it certainly was against the law to have at home THEN. WHO got it? Where did they get it from? And WHY didn't the police do something about this back then? If they did, maybe Lord Knows, we would still have our Michael!!

Bother me?............it absolutely is confounding and astonishing to me. really, I just cannot even fathom why this did not "come out" "come up" "get followed up on"...........anything. Even to,at least, rule it out as a possible problem. I don't know where they came from or why they were there, or who put them there, or who used them. What I do know is that the names on the bottles rattle me, the amount found confuses me, and the fact that it was many years ago saddens me.

and if I knew how the heck to put this in red print, like you did, I would, to emphasize it!

 

[Autumn II]

This leads me to another question. If Propofol was found at Neverland, why did the cops do nothing about that then? I mean, this drug should only be in an operating room right? So why was nothing done about the Propofol found back then??

I followed every inch of the trial coverage, and propofol was never mentioned as having been found at Neverland. They did mention prescription narcotics, though (at N/L). Which were not illegal for Michael to have, because they were by prescription. If they had been illegal, I'm sure Sneddon would have charged Michael with possession, too.

The various leaks from the coroner in LA, and now the official (partial) report, would be the first time I've ever even heard the WORD "propofol." The first time it was mentioned, I had to go look it up. . . . . I'm sure if it had been found at N/L it would have been all over the news.

 

[nestacat]

I followed every inch of the trial coverage, and propofol was never mentioned as having been found at Neverland. They did mention prescription narcotics, though (at N/L). Which were not illegal for Michael to have, because they were by prescription. If they had been illegal, I'm sure Sneddon would have charged Michael with possession, too.

The various leaks from the coroner in LA, and now the official (partial) report, would be the first time I've ever even heard the WORD "propofol." The first time it was mentioned, I had to go look it up. . . . . I'm sure if it had been found at N/L it would have been all over the news.

I don't think they actually found propofol...........and in hindsight it is easy for people to connect things that may not be connected. Basically, I believe they found EMPTY jars that resemble Propofol jars, and iv stuff, etc. In no way does that make it so.....

agreed about Sneddon.....he woulda done anything, and grasped at any straw.

 

[HemlockDevi]

This is all a scam. LA coronors are bought and paid for by Hollywood money. These drugs were planted on the 26th. The media and the police said "heart attack" and "cardiac arrest" and "no evidence of foul play" at first then after the media introduced the nurse and Kline it's been "drugs" and "propofol" ever since.

Look at how they have not(will not) arrest Murray. Compare that to the press conferrence they had to bring jackson in handcuffed!

This is a script written by the media.

Also why doae TMZ a tabloid that varifies nothing get quoted around the world as "the source" for the Jackson "investigation" why are not the police speaking for themselves? Not waiting for the next angle from the media?

 

[ITC]

This leads me to another question. If Propofol was found at Neverland, why did the cops do nothing about that then? I mean, this drug should only be in an operating room right? So why was nothing done about the Propofol found back then??

Because that was not the target of their investigation. I'm not sure they found propofol at neverland but there were oxygen tanks so maybe it was used there. Does any of you remember that doctor's name who was around Michael at that time? Something like Farrakan .. sounded like that. Cops should look into his medical records too.

 

[Goodbye Michael]

why would the body be released so it would sit in a closed coffin at a memorial concert?

why was there need for 2 or 3 autopsy's surely a trained mortician can find what they were looking for originally?

why are the results still not out for the first one?

why when one of their 'supposed' vans was seen in the new fake video of 'apparently MJ' in RTLs words exiting then van , didint they issue a statement denying as such?

why is the only comment they issued for Murrays quote for what drugs were used was "no comment" from the L A Coroners

if they were finished with his body why wouldn't they release it, it is up to the family what happens to the deceased after the coroner has completed it's tests. The family obviously wanted Michael's body to be at the memorial for the fans, an open casket would have been morbid.

morticians don't look for cause of death, i think maybe you meant coroner. It's always good to get a second opinion, especially if you have trouble trusting the establishment.

they are holding on to results while they continue investigations, don't want to jeapordise their case.

I'm sure most people would not believe Michael jumped out the back of the coroners van, that's insane and couldn't be taken seriously, especially not by the people that just performed and autopsy on him.

and again, they are still investigating.

"This leads me to another question. If Propofol was found at Neverland, why did the cops do nothing about that then? I mean, this drug should only be in an operating room right? So why was nothing done about the Propofol found back then?? "

it had nothing to do with the investigation taking place. If law enforcement has a search warrant looking for stolen property and they find drugs growing, they are going to only use the evidence they need for their case. I'm sure if it were a shit load of drugs they may have sent in the drug squad to investigate but if it doesn't fit their crime, they probably wont care.

 

[Gaiaschild]

This is all a scam. LA coronors are bought and paid for by Hollywood money. These drugs were planted on the 26th. The media and the police said "heart attack" and "cardiac arrest" and "no evidence of foul play" at first then after the media introduced the nurse and Kline it's been "drugs" and "propofol" ever since.

Look at how they have not(will not) arrest Murray. Compare that to the press conferrence they had to bring jackson in handcuffed!

This is a script written by the media.

Also why doae TMZ a tabloid that varifies nothing get quoted around the world as "the source" for the Jackson "investigation" why are not the police speaking for themselves? Not waiting for the next angle from the media?

Good post

 

[Gaiaschild]

"This leads me to another question. If Propofol was found at Neverland, why did the cops do nothing about that then? I mean, this drug should only be in an operating room right? So why was nothing done about the Propofol found back then?? "

it had nothing to do with the investigation taking place. If law enforcement has a search warrant looking for stolen property and they find drugs growing, they are going to only use the evidence they need for their case. I'm sure if it were a shit load of drugs they may have sent in the drug squad to investigate but if it doesn't fit their crime, they probably wont care.

I've never heard of propofol being found at Neverland, if there had been I'm sure Tom Sneddon would have not let that go. When you remember how Michael was treated, with so many lies, if they had something truthful, they would have gone for it, this is just yet another lie.

He lived in Bahrain in the middle east in recent years, it would have been very difficult to get these drugs there. It is just not true

 

[elusive moonwalker]

hy would the body be released so it would sit in a closed coffin at a memorial concert?

not sure why thats even a question. once they have finished the body gets handed back to the family. are u asing why the jacksons put him in a coffin for the memorial causethats their doing

why is the only comment they issued for Murrays quote for what drugs were used was "no comment" from the L A Coroners

dont understand that question

why was there need for 2 or 3 autopsy's surely a trained mortician can find what they were looking for originally?

the family asked for their own autopsy. nothing strange about that

why are the results still not out for the first one?

they gave the reason at the time. because of the investigation. u want murray knowing all the details?

hy when one of their 'supposed' vans was seen in the new fake video of 'apparently MJ' in RTLs words exiting then van , didint they issue a statement denying as such?

why would they lol

I've never heard of propofol being found at Neverland,

dito

 

[TinaG]

I just wanted to point out that it is not illegal to have propofol in one's home. It is not a "scheduled" drug by the DEA, though it may well become one soon. You can find some more info here:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/15/propofol.dea.jackson/index.html

http://66.241.203.11/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/urgent-case-for-control-of-propofol.pdf

 

[Autumn II]

I've never heard of propofol being found at Neverland, if there had been I'm sure Tom Sneddon would have not let that go. When you remember how Michael was treated, with so many lies, if they had something truthful, they would have gone for it, this is just yet another lie.

He lived in Bahrain in the middle east in recent years, it would have been very difficult to get these drugs there. It is just not true

This is correct, as I understand it. Lists of drugs found at Neverland were online. There was no propofol ever mentioned. If it had been there, I'm sure that info would have been available. I remember that Demerol WAS found at N/L. Michael had back-pain, and he had a prescription. It was not illegal for him to have the drug.

Propofol is not a controlled substance, like narcotics. The possession of propofol was not then, nor now, illegal to my knowledge. The use of it in a home-setting was unthinkable, but I'm sure that now it WILL be re-classified as a controlled substance.

Bahrain is a modern country, and I'm sure that there was availability of the same drugs as can be obtained in the United States.

There are MANY questions that need answers.

The timeline is pivotal. When did Michael really die, and what did Murray DO, then? Who did he call?

Who else was in the house?

Murray fled from the hospital. Who picked him up? A taxi? A person? Who?

Why was it first reported that Michael had injected himself with Demerol, and then not said again? According to the (limited) report, no Demerol was found in his system. Is that true?

Why are there conflicting reports about Michael's health? AEG-related people say he was fine, and fans say otherwise.

Why did Tohme show up at the press-conference, when he'd already been fired?

Why did Jermaine introduce Tohme to Michael, in the first-place?

Why did Tohme have such a large amount of Michael's cash on-hand? Did Michael even KNOW about it? Tohme could sign checks. . . . . .

Why are there conflicting reports about WHEN Frank Dileo said he received phone calls about Michael's condition? Was he notified in the morning, or at lunch, as he later said?

It's been reported that Michael called Frank to say he was not feeling well. Why didn't Frank get him to a hospital?

Was/is Frank on the Board of Directors of Sony/ATV? If so, could that not be seen as a conflict of interest, if he was Michael's manager?

Was AEG PAYING Frank? Are they, still?

It's been reported that Michael told Murray he was ill. If true, why did Murray -- his doctor! -- refuse to take him to a hospital?

Who REALLY wanted Murray for Michael's doctor? Michael, or AEG?

And more. . . . .

 

[HemlockDevi]

Because that was not the target of their investigation. I'm not sure they found propofol at neverland but there were oxygen tanks so maybe it was used there. Does any of you remember that doctor's name who was around Michael at that time? Something like Farrakan .. sounded like that. Cops should look into his medical records too.

How are you "sure" this dangerous drug was "found at Neverland."
This was never found at Neverland in 93 nor 03.

 

[HemlockDevi]

This is correct, as I understand it. Lists of drugs found at Neverland were online. There was no propofol ever mentioned. If it had been there, I'm sure that info would have been available. I remember that Demerol WAS found at N/L. Michael had back-pain, and he had a prescription. It was not illegal for him to have the drug.

Propofol is not a controlled substance, like narcotics. The possession of propofol was not then, nor now, illegal to my knowledge. The use of it in a home-setting was unthinkable, but I'm sure that now it WILL be re-classified as a controlled substance.

Bahrain is a modern country, and I'm sure that there was availability of the same drugs as can be obtained in the United States.

There are MANY questions that need answers.

The timeline is pivotal. When did Michael really die, and what did Murray DO, then? Who did he call?

Who else was in the house?

Murray fled from the hospital. Who picked him up? A taxi? A person? Who?

Why was it first reported that Michael had injected himself with Demerol, and then not said again? According to the (limited) report, no Demerol was found in his system. Is that true?

Why are there conflicting reports about Michael's health? AEG-related people say he was fine, and fans say otherwise.

Why did Tohme show up at the press-conference, when he'd already been fired?

Why did Jermaine introduce Tohme to Michael, in the first-place?

Why did Tohme have such a large amount of Michael's cash on-hand? Did Michael even KNOW about it? Tohme could sign checks. . . . . .

Why are there conflicting reports about WHEN Frank Dileo said he received phone calls about Michael's condition? Was he notified in the morning, or at lunch, as he later said?

It's been reported that Michael called Frank to say he was not feeling well. Why didn't Frank get him to a hospital?

Was/is Frank on the Board of Directors of Sony/ATV? If so, could that not be seen as a conflict of interest, if he was Michael's manager?

Was AEG PAYING Frank? Are they, still?

It's been reported that Michael told Murray he was ill. If true, why did Murray -- his doctor! -- refuse to take him to a hospital?

Who REALLY wanted Murray for Michael's doctor? Michael, or AEG?

And more. . . . .

Awesome post these are the questions the police should be asking.

 

[ShadowMaster]

This is all a scam. LA coronors are bought and paid for by Hollywood money. These drugs were planted on the 26th. The media and the police said "heart attack" and "cardiac arrest" and "no evidence of foul play" at first then after the media introduced the nurse and Kline it's been "drugs" and "propofol" ever since.

Look at how they have not(will not) arrest Murray. Compare that to the press conferrence they had to bring jackson in handcuffed!

This is a script written by the media.

Also why doae TMZ a tabloid that varifies nothing get quoted around the world as "the source" for the Jackson "investigation" why are not the police speaking for themselves? Not waiting for the next angle from the media?

it surely sounds that way to me too ...i should add the difference of officers on the case 3 compared to more than 70 during the trial

 

[man.in.the.mirror]

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hy when one of their 'supposed' vans was seen in the new fake video of 'apparently MJ' in RTLs words exiting then van , didint they issue a statement denying as such?


this is what i,d like to know as well ,i mean some tv company owns up to faking a video clip,making it look like an l.a coroners van,and then putting fake licance plates on to ressemble the coroners van that picked michael up from the helicopter,surely this is illegal to do such a thing,and this german tv company should be prosecuted,and it,s a very cruel thing to do,

and as for the drugs found at neverland,like someone said,i think they were more interested at the time,trying to convict him of you know what,

 

[elusive moonwalker]

The media and the police said "heart attack" and "cardiac arrest" and "no evidence of foul play" at first then after the media introduced the nurse and Kline it's been "drugs" and "propofol" ever since.

cardiact arrest is what happened to him dirpivan ect is the cause. u can tell the syptoms of cardiact arrest the autopsey carried out later tells u of the actual course of death. the two things are seperate

Look at how they have not(will not) arrest Murray. Compare that to the press conferrence they had to bring jackson in handcuffed!

yeah well that was sneddon. hopefully this force are different du want them to arrest murray without having a solid case ?

Also why doae TMZ a tabloid that varifies nothing get quoted around the world as "the source" for the Jackson "investigation" why are not the police speaking for themselves? Not waiting for the next angle from the media?

when did the police ever make statements about what is or isnt true execept for the likes of sneddon. do u want the police telling murray what every they have so they can create a defence around it?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

his is what i,d like to know as well ,i mean some tv company owns up to faking a video clip,making it look like an l.a coroners van,and then putting fake licance plates on to ressemble the coroners van that picked michael up from the helicopter,surely this is illegal to do such a thing,and this german tv company should be prosecuted,and it,s a very cruel thing to do,

dont u think they have better things to do than fly someone to germany to see if theres a law that they can be charged under.when there obviously isnt id rather they concentrate on going after murray thanks

nd as for the drugs found at neverland,like someone said,i think they were more interested at the time,trying to convict him of you know what

there was nothing there that was illegal

 

[man.in.the.mirror]

dont u think they have better things to do than fly someone to germany to see if theres a law that they can be charged under.when there obviously isnt id rather they concentrate on going after murray thanks

there was nothing there that was illegal

theres no need to be funny i want them to get murrey more than anyone,but they are taking some bloody time arresting him,

and yes i do think it,s illegal to fake licence plates,you would be arrested for doing this,

tyhey should have arrested murrey already thanks,

 

[elusive moonwalker]

im not being funny just replying to your post. thats the bottom line make complaints to the german authorities because someone did what they did over there for a stunt. i think the police and others have more important issues. and if they sent someone over there to make a case i can imagine the uproar on the boards that they thin thats more important than going after muray

 

[man.in.the.mirror]

im not being funny just replying to your post. thats the bottom line make complaints to the german authorities because someone did what they did over there for a stunt. i think the police and others have more important issues. and if they sent someone over there to make a case i can imagine the uproar on the boards that they thin thats more important than going after muray

i understand your point ,but you made it sound like i don,t care about michaels case,ofcourse they should be putting all their time and resourses in to finding out what happened to michael,so you think i just want them to drop everything and go and investigate a hoax video,no,i was just stating a point,