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Thriller 25 proving that MJ still has very good Sales Potential

PANOS THE GREEK said:
what is going on with greece no realase yet!!!do you know when finally tha album and the sigle will realease???
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The singles release have become difficult here because people do not buy singles easily, only one big record store left that is Metropolis and PATSIS follows, Virginstores have become less and less, only where Villagecinemas are, and for now in Athens only Virgin Megastores have got it released. Metropolis Thessaloniki has released it,too, we wait today the rest.
Why don't you come and join us in Greek at www.mjhellas.gr ? We tell the details there.
However the record sales are counted mainly by the sales at Metropolis stores.
 
cinderella said:
probably both, firstly they want to check "the best selling album of all time" and secondly because "Akon .... is on it"..... but does it matter?
The most important is that they are introduced to the Michael's album and to his music.... once you fall in love in it - you're 'taken' .... then you want to buy all his albums and you're waitng impatiently for the new one!
And that's the point!;)
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you're right. :D
 
sophiemj said:
The singles release have become difficult here because people do not buy singles easily, only one big record store left that is Metropolis and PATSIS follows, Virginstores have become less and less, only where Villagecinemas are, and for now in Athens only Virgin Megastores have got it released. Metropolis Thessaloniki has released it,too, we wait today the rest.
Why don't you come and join us in Greek at www.mjhellas.gr ? We tell the details there.
However the record sales are counted mainly by the sales at Metropolis stores.
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i was the day before yestarday at metropolis and there was nothing and in virgin too..so i must check again today??
 
The potential first week success of this album really drives home what a mistake it was for Mike not to perform at the Grammys. further to that, whatever went on behind the scenes behind Mike and the Grammys team, it caused the cancellation of the Thriller25/MJ tribute. If either (or both) of those had occurred I am confident we would have a new #1 album. I hope Mike realises the extent of his mistake.
 
Oh God, are we going to bit*h about the Grammys more? Michael didn't make a mistake. The album is most likely going to be in the top 5 and that's amazing for an album that's been out for 25 years and has already seen numerous re-issues and it's number 1 in terms of first day releases, etc... This isn't a new project or a "comeback" project. It's a test project, I think, to see how the public reacts. And so far, so good. What this proves isn't that Michael needed to perform or promote, it proves that he DIDN'T need to do that.
 
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I dont know if it was a mistake for MJ not to perform at the Grammy's,but it would have been interesting to see the sales had he performed. If Thriller 25 can sale 120k without a Grammy performance,then with a great live performance,he probably could have sold over 200k or more the 1st week easy. Especially if he did the Girl is Mine Re-Mix with will i am. Non fans would be wondering where can i buy that song
 
I think it would have been a mistake to perform simply because I think it would have been a waste to do his first performance since 2002 with a remix of an old song. He should come back to the stage with something he created. A new album is where it really counts. Like I said, I think this is just a test project, not something he's wanting to break any records with or make a statement with, but something to get his feet wet with and test the waters with. I think it's something he's doing to prepare himself for the spotlight, not to actually be in the spotlight with.
 
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I think it's going to be more interesting how the sales figure for a brandnew album will turn out. This is Thriller people...it's already the best selling album of all time.
And with fans buying 7 or more copies, no wonder it's going to be high in the charts.
So, in my opinion, T25 doesn't really prove how popular Michael is in the public's eye at all! Only a new album will show...
And it's about time.....*sigh*
 
the purpose of releasing a CD is to sell as many copies of it as possible. In this case it is also to help improve Michael Jackson's image by concentrating on his biggest success and to make the public concentrate on the music.

An album reaching number 1 is the goal of all people involved when an album is released and I don't care what anyone else says, Mike would prefer for this album to be number one in the charts. He will realise by now that performing on the Grammys, or even an appearance or tribute on the Grammys would have greatly improved the chances of that happening. whatever the reasons, the negotiations fell apart and in the end everything was cancelled. Mike's management know it may have cost him another number 1 album, Mike knows that too, and so do the Grammys organisers. All parties would acknowledge that had plans gone ahead, Thriller 25 could be number one in the US. All parties would acknowledge that cancelling the plans has effectively reduced the chances of number one in the states.

Mj fans always try to reconcile Mike's actions and tty to make it seem as tho everything he does is right or for a 'reason'. No, sometimes things are just wrong. You think Mike s sitting at home thinking "I'm glad I didn't go to the Grammys. I'm satisfied that thriller 25 may land in the top 5, even though if I performed/appeared or if there was a tribute, it could have been number 1." Bull. He's thinking "if only I performed on the GRammys, I could have had another number one album to add to my achievements and career tally. That would have helped my 'comeback' even more because it's the best positive promo I could get." You're fooling yourself if you think Mike doesn't regret his decision.

Just cause it's a rerelease doesn't mean Mike wouldn't want it to be number 1, if only for one week.
 
bobmoo, I know that you regret Mike's decision but , sorry, it's over... and life goes on....
 
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analogue said:
It's only a matter of time untill people start wearing Thriller and Beat It jackets again
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LMAO:lol::lol::lol:....BACK to THE 80's BABY!!! LOL!!! I would LOVE IT if They Bring back the jackets though!!! I never got a chance to wear them lol!!! I Think Michael's gonna get an award for Being the ONLY Artist to have a #1 Re-released ALBUM!!! Lol!!!! That would be AWSOME!!!!:D

And YOU AINT' SEEN NOTHIN' YET!!!
 
And with fans buying 7 or more copies,
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7? i hardly doubt it. and anyway theres enough fans who arent buying the album at all so it evens its self out.

thriller will always sell well and the remixes ,how ever much i dont like them were a great P.R move in bringing the songs to the next generation. the media always big up thriller because its b4 mj turned into a freak in their eyes. it was ok to like him.and of course be littles all his other work that came after.

the real question is whether sony or whoever it is is prepared to back a new album with a big promo campaign etc like it has done for an album that it knows will always sell a good amount regardless of how old it is
 
damien shields said:
P.S. i thought in USA that you have to sell like 500,000 copies to be the #1 album of the week... not 135,000?
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No, all you have to do is outsell your competition to be no.1 we've had albums be no.1 and have sold as low as 61,000 or as high as 2.1 million depends on who also has an album out.
 
bobmoo79 said:
The potential first week success of this album really drives home what a mistake it was for Mike not to perform at the Grammys. further to that, whatever went on behind the scenes behind Mike and the Grammys team, it caused the cancellation of the Thriller25/MJ tribute. If either (or both) of those had occurred I am confident we would have a new #1 album. I hope Mike realises the extent of his mistake.
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The Grammys are over, and you too need to move on and let it go, if Mike winds up selling more than Amy Whinehouse who did win the most Grammys then come back and tell me how the Grammys were so important.
 
bobmoo79 said:
the purpose of releasing a CD is to sell as many copies of it as possible. In this case it is also to help improve Michael Jackson's image by concentrating on his biggest success and to make the public concentrate on the music.

An album reaching number 1 is the goal of all people involved when an album is released and I don't care what anyone else says, Mike would prefer for this album to be number one in the charts. He will realise by now that performing on the Grammys, or even an appearance or tribute on the Grammys would have greatly improved the chances of that happening. whatever the reasons, the negotiations fell apart and in the end everything was cancelled. Mike's management know it may have cost him another number 1 album, Mike knows that too, and so do the Grammys organisers. All parties would acknowledge that had plans gone ahead, Thriller 25 could be number one in the US. All parties would acknowledge that cancelling the plans has effectively reduced the chances of number one in the states.

Mj fans always try to reconcile Mike's actions and tty to make it seem as tho everything he does is right or for a 'reason'. No, sometimes things are just wrong. You think Mike s sitting at home thinking "I'm glad I didn't go to the Grammys. I'm satisfied that thriller 25 may land in the top 5, even though if I performed/appeared or if there was a tribute, it could have been number 1." Bull. He's thinking "if only I performed on the GRammys, I could have had another number one album to add to my achievements and career tally. That would have helped my 'comeback' even more because it's the best positive promo I could get." You're fooling yourself if you think Mike doesn't regret his decision.

Just cause it's a rerelease doesn't mean Mike wouldn't want it to be number 1, if only for one week.
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I think YOU as a fan need validation, clearly Mike knows what he is doing and is selling very well without your advice, when you have had 40 years of being a LEGEND then I'll take your being upset seriously. It's a 25 year old album for crying out loud not a new album furthermore his sister Janet has a NEW album coming out for February 26th and she went to all the Grammy parties and didn't perform what was her excuse?
 
elusive moonwalker said:
7? i hardly doubt it. and anyway theres enough fans who arent buying the album at all so it evens its self out.

thriller will always sell well and the remixes ,how ever much i dont like them were a great P.R move in bringing the songs to the next generation. the media always big up thriller because its b4 mj turned into a freak in their eyes. it was ok to like him.and of course be littles all his other work that came after.

the real question is whether sony or whoever it is is prepared to back a new album with a big promo campaign etc like it has done for an album that it knows will always sell a good amount regardless of how old it is
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Thank you for saying that elusive, people need to realize and i know alot of people aren't chart junkies but even before Thriller 25 came out the 2001 editon was a constant steady seller, clearly fans since 2001 weren't buying 7 copies weekly for that to happen :lol: I reguarly go to WalMart, Best Buy, Target and Circuit City here in the USA and they always have racks stacked with MJ albums so people need to quit buying into the media BS and realize even with all of the stuff that has happened to Michael that he has a very healthy selling catalogue always has had that no matter what.
 
I agree with some that has been said here, but however dont you think that Mike talking about a Thriller25 special is better than just an appearance or a performance where he gets nothing for doing it? I believe that he knows what he is doing and also was made up to see Londell still on the team, because this guy knows how to bring someone back on top, the way they are working together is fantastic now, Michael is doing nothing unless he is getting paid, i feel that the promotion is enough for this album, and as special will take the thriller25 to new heights yet again, buut also make the new material, album or singles be highly anticipated even stronger.

Mike knows and is probably being advised that he is a huge rating/ crowd puller so a special will be the way forward.

Terry
 
How confident are we that there are talks of a T25 special? And who is Londell?
Thanks,
djbaby
 
If there was a Thriller 25 special planned, it would ideally be shown on TV the same week as the album release to boost sales. That is obviously not what's happening. Sure, the special will boost sales if it is aired later, but the best time would be now.
 
bobmoo79 said:
the purpose of releasing a CD is to sell as many copies of it as possible. In this case it is also to help improve Michael Jackson's image by concentrating on his biggest success and to make the public concentrate on the music.

An album reaching number 1 is the goal of all people involved when an album is released and I don't care what anyone else says, Mike would prefer for this album to be number one in the charts. He will realise by now that performing on the Grammys, or even an appearance or tribute on the Grammys would have greatly improved the chances of that happening. whatever the reasons, the negotiations fell apart and in the end everything was cancelled. Mike's management know it may have cost him another number 1 album, Mike knows that too, and so do the Grammys organisers. All parties would acknowledge that had plans gone ahead, Thriller 25 could be number one in the US. All parties would acknowledge that cancelling the plans has effectively reduced the chances of number one in the states.

Mj fans always try to reconcile Mike's actions and tty to make it seem as tho everything he does is right or for a 'reason'. No, sometimes things are just wrong. You think Mike s sitting at home thinking "I'm glad I didn't go to the Grammys. I'm satisfied that thriller 25 may land in the top 5, even though if I performed/appeared or if there was a tribute, it could have been number 1." Bull. He's thinking "if only I performed on the GRammys, I could have had another number one album to add to my achievements and career tally. That would have helped my 'comeback' even more because it's the best positive promo I could get." You're fooling yourself if you think Mike doesn't regret his decision.

Just cause it's a rerelease doesn't mean Mike wouldn't want it to be number 1, if only for one week.
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Michael may have had one of his kids sick, and prefered to be with them to make them feel better, or a list of other reasons why he didnt perform. You dont know Michael personally. Dont sit here preeching that he regrets anything because thats a plain and simple GUESS...

Thriller spent 37 consecutive weeks at #1 already, ONE more week if he misses out aint gonna hurt. Yikes!
 
hopespringseternal said:
The Grammys are over, and you too need to move on and let it go, if Mike winds up selling more than Amy Whinehouse who did win the most Grammys then come back and tell me how the Grammys were so important.
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So are you trying to tell me you think that thriller 25 wouldn't be selling more now if he had been on the Grammys performing or appearing in person? That's ludicrous. Also, Amy Winehouse's album has been selling well for months(!), this is Mike's first week. I'd bet anything that Amy's album has been boosted by the Grammys. To say it hasn't benefitted from the Grammys is ludicrous.
 
damien shields said:
Thriller spent 37 consecutive weeks at #1 already, ONE more week if he misses out aint gonna hurt. Yikes!
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Thriller 25 hasn't spent any time at #1. Many people see this as a seperate project, and it is. The way Billboard will count the sales won't figure in most peoples minds.

You think it wouldn't be better for Thriller 25 to be at #1?
 
bobmoo79 said:
Thriller 25 hasn't spent any time at #1. Many people see this as a seperate project, and it is. The way Billboard will count the sales won't figure in most peoples minds.

You think it wouldn't be better for Thriller 25 to be at #1?
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better at #1 for who? it doesnt effect any of US here on this board. And if Michael has other priorities (which he may, the fans think they know him but they dont) then so be it. I dont care where it charts because the positive publicity it has got is fantastic. The chart position is irrelivant to me on a personal level.
 
bobmoo79 said:
So are you trying to tell me you think that thriller 25 wouldn't be selling more now if he had been on the Grammys performing or appearing in person? That's ludicrous. Also, Amy Winehouse's album has been selling well for months(!), this is Mike's first week. I'd bet anything that Amy's album has been boosted by the Grammys. To say it hasn't benefitted from the Grammys is ludicrous.
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for me, i don't see the reason for this.

I'm happy that T25 is already out performing it's predicted sales. i know that in my sister's school, her friends because of T25 have recently started to change their views about MJ.

i mean T25 wasn't meant to be #1 at all. Just like all the compilations, greatest hits etc, it's supposed to boost sales, put your name out whatever. Everyone hopes for a #1 i mean that's the goal yeah? but no one is going to kill just for a "greatest hits" album to be #1.

Mj is not going to go full out promotion for a 25 year old album. a chinese proverb comes to mind, to kill a chicken with a bull knife.

for whatever reasons T25 was put out for (there is one very comprehensive list on MMJC somewhere), the goals have been achieved.

if you're seeking a full out, michael mania, michael every where, let's leave that for the new album yeah? just like in music, for the climax to be a true climax, you have to ascend to it, build up to it, cresendo, quiet then loud. a true masterpiece of promotion (notice how MJ has been doing that all his life?) if the entire thing was just loud, it would be dull and not effective.
 
Thriller was an era when MJ was at his peak, its the kind of Michael Jackson people want to remember

So MJ releasing THRILLER makes people think back to the days of the 80s when MJ was 'normal' (in there mind) and when he was known for great music etc

So it reinforces a positive image of MJ, so peoples perceptions change, and its all good for releasing the NEW album
 
TomV87 said:
Thriller was an era when MJ was at his peak, its the kind of Michael Jackson people want to remember

So MJ releasing THRILLER makes people think back to the days of the 80s when MJ was 'normal' (in there mind) and when he was known for great music etc

So it reinforces a positive image of MJ, so peoples perceptions change, and its all good for releasing the NEW album
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Your right, I never thought about it that way.

=D
 
I have played the album at work, and people that normally say he is crazy, white, his nose is falling off etc are saying 'oo i love thriller' and 'i wish i could moonwalk' etc

So this is a very very very clever move :)
 
bobmoo79 said:
If there was a Thriller 25 special planned, it would ideally be shown on TV the same week as the album release to boost sales. That is obviously not what's happening. Sure, the special will boost sales if it is aired later, but the best time would be now.
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I disagree. It would be the best to show it on TV when Thriller 25 is going to PEAK on charts.. Because together it's the best pr. When people would see a tv special and think to buy the album, they buy it more certainly if it's high on charts.

Thriller short film boosted sales even after almost 2 years and it helped a lot the album already was hugely successful. I think the short film wouldn't have had THAT huge impact if it had been for example the first short film from the album.
That's my logic..
 
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