Unreleased HIStory cuts?

[SmoothGangsta]

Yeah it is kinda an ear worm, agreed on the lyrics though. I think if MJ had gotten around it he would have sounded great on it. Shame he didn't.

 

[SmoothCriminal1995]

That demo for The Verdict, sounds very similar to a Janet Jackson demo Work

This demo was also produced by Bryan Loren

 

[FlyAway0086]

All The Songs also states that "Fly Away" and "Slave To The Rhythm" were revisited for this album. It's the only source I've seen for this claim, though.

 

[ChanceToDance]

It's no surprise that there's nothing left from the HIStory sessions lol. A lot of it was spent on revisiting old tracks and the songs that were in fact new went to BOTDF or TUC.

 

[BlackAnon]

All The Songs also states that "Fly Away" and "Slave To The Rhythm" were revisited for this album. It's the only source I've seen for this claim, though.

HIStory is such a personal album, I don't see these songs making the cut.

 

[SmoothCriminal1995]

With the HIStory album, I've always got the feeling that Michael didn't work like he normally did. Initially it was going to be the greatest hits and a few new tracks, then it became an album because the material was so strong. So he wasn't in the studio secretly creating a new album like he was with Dangerous.

But I get the feeling he didn't work on a ton of songs, he had a core message he wanted the album to be about and if a song didn't fit that, it didn't go on the record or get worked on further.

I think he worked extensively on the songs he plucked from the vault, TDCAU, Earth Song, Tabloid Junkie, rather than writing new material that ultimately wouldn't get on the album

 

[BlackAnon]

With the HIStory album, I've always got the feeling that Michael didn't work like he normally did. Initially it was going to be the greatest hits and a few new tracks, then it became an album because the material was so strong. So he wasn't in the studio secretly creating a new album like he was with Dangerous.

But I get the feeling he didn't work on a ton of songs, he had a core message he wanted the album to be about and if a song didn't fit that, it didn't go on the record or get worked on further.

I think he worked extensively on the songs he plucked from the vault, TDCAU, Earth Song, Tabloid Junkie, rather than writing new material that ultimately wouldn't get on the album

One of the engineers (maybe Brad) said he didn't work on a lot of songs and everything else ended up on BOTDF

 

[sh_dog]

So, most projects that MJ wanted to finish was finished up in the late '90s. To put it in another way, there is little to no more unreleased HIStory cuts available in the vault (at least from the information that we have gathered). Also, because of concerts and happenings that occured in this time period making him stressed, MJ didn't have time or effort to start lots of whole new song projects.
I feel like there is more songs that are deep somewhere that someone somehow has that was made in the HIStory era, but who knows? Maybe the HIStory era vault is as empty as it is. At least some songs like In The Back have apparently been reworked in the intermission period between Invincible and This Is It. We can hope for unreleased or undiscovered songs that have partially been worked in HIStory.

Is there anymore songs that I left out that has been worked in HIStory and then reworked later on?​

 

[ChanceToDance]

What about the song Rich Girl? It had to have been made during the HIStory era and Brad Buxer said it was "far along" which could mean it's releasable. Could it be the last remaining song from that time?

 

[Nite Line]

So it is safe to say that History era along with Off The Wall era is Michael's least prolific era.

 

[AlwaysThere]

What about the song Rich Girl? It had to have been made during the HIStory era and Brad Buxer said it was "far along" which could mean it's releasable. Could it be the last remaining song from that time?

Brad said “Rich Girl” was made around the time Michael first started seeing Lisa Marie, so 1993-94ish? I wish people would ask him more about that one, because “far along” could mean a million different things in MJ Land.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

So it is safe to say that History era along with Off The Wall era is Michael's least prolific era.

Really, Blood on the Dance Floor is. Since they only worked on 5, at most 6 songs. And all of them came from Dangerous/HIStory. But obviously it's not a full era. Before Off The Wall and Goin Places, MJ was writing and making no songs at all.

 

[Nite Line]

Really, Blood on the Dance Floor is. Since they only worked on 5, at most 6 songs. And all of them came from Dangerous/HIStory. But obviously it's not a full era. Before Off The Wall and Goin Places, MJ was writing and making no songs at all.

True, but like you said, Blood On The Dance Floor isn't a full era and the songs that ended up on that album are from the Dangerous and History eras.

 

[BlackAnon]

So it is safe to say that History era along with Off The Wall era is Michael's least prolific era.

Michael was writing a lot between Destiny and Triumph......we don't have much unreleased music during this time but demos do exist......remember Michael was working on the concept album during this time as well

 

[ChanceToDance]

Brad said “Rich Girl” was made around the time Michael first started seeing Lisa Marie, so 1993-94ish? I wish people would ask him more about that one, because “far along” could mean a million different things in MJ Land.

Brad Buxer is pretty straightforward when it comes to the completion of songs so I believe that "far along" is pretty optimistic in this context.

 

[Hollywood_Tonight]

So, most projects that MJ wanted to finish was finished up in the late '90s. To put it in another way, there is little to no more unreleased HIStory cuts available in the vault (at least from the information that we have gathered). Also, because of concerts and happenings that occured in this time period making him stressed, MJ didn't have time or effort to start lots of whole new song projects.
I feel like there is more songs that are deep somewhere that someone somehow has that was made in the HIStory era, but who knows? Maybe the HIStory era vault is as empty as it is. At least some songs like In The Back have apparently been reworked in the intermission period between Invincible and This Is It. We can hope for unreleased or undiscovered songs that have partially been worked in HIStory.

Is there anymore songs that I left out that has been worked in HIStory and then reworked later on?​

Bruce Swedien’s 1994 mix of Much Too Soon, which Michael approved of, still remains unreleased.

 

[Hollywood_Tonight]

What about the song Rich Girl? It had to have been made during the HIStory era and Brad Buxer said it was "far along" which could mean it's releasable. Could it be the last remaining song from that time?

I’ve also heard MJ’s cover of Delilah was “far along” as well, that could be another gem from this era.

 

[AlwaysThere]

I’ve also heard MJ’s cover of Delilah was “far along” as well, that could be another gem from this era.

If I’m not mistaken, the source of “Delilah” was that Reddit AMA, which we called into question elsewhere. I feel like it’s a hoax.

 

[SmoothMel7]

It would be nice to contact Ryan Arnold again. I did not succeed for my part. If he spoke once, he can speak again.

A cover of the song "Delilah" would be really nice.

 

[SmoothMel7]

In the unreleased titles of the History period, there are also these titles of which we have no information:

# Fanfare 1992

Registered in the US Copyright. Also under the name Fanfare Transition.

#Fear

Would be recorded in 1993. It is one of my top searches. Rob Hoffman has never heard this title, just like the Faces title, which really exists.

#Dreams

Would also be recorded in 1993. There is a Pepsi commercial titled Dreams.

# Feel, Believe

Song lyrics found in notes (?). No available information.

# Everything for Appearance

This title would be the ultimate Jam & Levis song. No available information. In the books of Chris Cadman, it is indicated the assumption that Jam & Levis would have returned in 1998 for Invincible.

 

[sh_dog]

Ok, so I found this website https://lostmediawiki.com/Michael_J...shed_songs_from_American_musician;_1974-2009)
that lists some of MJ's unreleased songs that might have been worked on by him. From this website, there is:

Bassouille

Michael Jackson, Bruce Swedien

Unknown

Written in 1994 during the HIStory sessions; alternatively known as "Basszouille"; a fully complete version is known to exist.

Lost

The Best Thing

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and Recorded during the HIStory sessions. Vocally Complete and ready for release

Lost

Bombay Nights

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions; possibly also known as "Blackout and Bombay Girls" or "Bombay Girls".

Existence unconfirmed

Dance On the Ceiling

Michael Jackson, Nicholas Pike

Registered on BMI

Worked sometime between 1996-1997 for "Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix", but didn't make the cut.

Don't Be Messin' 'Round

Michael Jackson

Prematurely announced in 2012, one month before the Jackson Estate's official announcement.

Written and Recorded in 1978 during Off The Wall sessions, in 1982 during the Thriller sessions, from 1986-1987 during the Bad sessions, in 1990 during the Dangerous sessions, in 1995 during the HIStory sessions, in 1999 during Invincible sessions and from 2003 - 2009.

Released(Bad version) Partially leaked(Thriller version) Lost(Other versions)

Evil Eye	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Worked on during the HIStory sessions.	Existence unconfirmed
Faces	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Recorded during the HIStory sessions; would have featured an introduction performed by Nelson Mandela and percussion by STOMP; was cancelled after the 1993 child molestation charges motivated Mandela's advisors to prohibit him from recording; alternatively known as "Face".	Leaked

Ghost of Another Lover

Michael Jackson

Song title listed on a note in Jackson's bedroom.

Written and recorded in 1989 during the Dangerous sessions and 1993-4 during HIStory sessions. Fully complete versions for both sessions are known to exist.

Leaked Lost (HIStory version)

Innocent Man

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and recorded in 1993 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges.

Lost

Neverland Landing

Michael Jackson

Registered with the U.S. Copyright Office.

Written and recorded in 1993.

Lost

Not Guilty

George Harrison

Unknown

Recorded in 1994 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges; featured the Notorious B.I.G..

Lost

People Have to Make Some Sort of Joke

Michael Jackson

Listed during the 1993 deposition.

Unfinished when mentioned in 1993; writing completed in 2000.

Lost

Revenge

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions.

Lost

Willing and Waiting

Michael Jackson

Mentioned by Jackson's engineer in an interview.

Written during the HIStory sessions; produced by Babyface; shelved due to it sounding softer than what Jackson desired for HIStory.

LostLeaked (writer's demo)

That's all, also there being 'Much Too Soon' as always. There's actually a lot more possible songs that we still might have in the vault. Although we cannot confirm the existence of 'Bombay Nights', 'Dance On The Ceiling' -(prob just an outtake of botdf) and 'Evil Eye', do we have any further info about other songs? I cannot search Twitter right now, but there are many sources. Check the site out.

 

[NetflexKingGR]

Ok, so I found this website https://lostmediawiki.com/Michael_J...shed_songs_from_American_musician;_1974-2009)
that lists some of MJ's unreleased songs that might have been worked on by him. From this website, there is:

Bassouille

Michael Jackson, Bruce Swedien

Unknown

Written in 1994 during the HIStory sessions; alternatively known as "Basszouille"; a fully complete version is known to exist.

Lost

The Best Thing

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and Recorded during the HIStory sessions. Vocally Complete and ready for release

Lost

Bombay Nights

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions; possibly also known as "Blackout and Bombay Girls" or "Bombay Girls".

Existence unconfirmed

Dance On the Ceiling

Michael Jackson, Nicholas Pike

Registered on BMI

Worked sometime between 1996-1997 for "Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix", but didn't make the cut.

Don't Be Messin' 'Round

Michael Jackson

Prematurely announced in 2012, one month before the Jackson Estate's official announcement.

Written and Recorded in 1978 during Off The Wall sessions, in 1982 during the Thriller sessions, from 1986-1987 during the Bad sessions, in 1990 during the Dangerous sessions, in 1995 during the HIStory sessions, in 1999 during Invincible sessions and from 2003 - 2009.

Released(Bad version) Partially leaked(Thriller version) Lost(Other versions)

Evil Eye	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Worked on during the HIStory sessions.	Existence unconfirmed
Faces	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Recorded during the HIStory sessions; would have featured an introduction performed by Nelson Mandela and percussion by STOMP; was cancelled after the 1993 child molestation charges motivated Mandela's advisors to prohibit him from recording; alternatively known as "Face".	Leaked

Ghost of Another Lover

Michael Jackson

Song title listed on a note in Jackson's bedroom.

Written and recorded in 1989 during the Dangerous sessions and 1993-4 during HIStory sessions. Fully complete versions for both sessions are known to exist.

Leaked Lost (HIStory version)

Innocent Man

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and recorded in 1993 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges.

Lost

Not Guilty

George Harrison

Unknown

Recorded in 1994 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges; featured the Notorious B.I.G..

Lost

People Have to Make Some Sort of Joke

Michael Jackson

Listed during the 1993 deposition.

Unfinished when mentioned in 1993; writing completed in 2000.

Lost

Revenge

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions.

Lost

Willing and Waiting

Michael Jackson

Mentioned by Jackson's engineer in an interview.

Written during the HIStory sessions; produced by Babyface; shelved due to it sounding softer than what Jackson desired for HIStory.

LostLeaked (writer's demo)

That's all, also there being 'Much Too Soon' as always. Although we cannot confirm the existence of 'Bombay Nights', 'Dance On The Ceiling' -(prob just an outtake of botdf) and 'Evil Eye', do we have any further info about other songs? I cannot search Twitter right now, but there are many sources. Check the site out.

Bombay Nights, The Best Thing, Evil Eye and Revenge are just Instrumental Grooves according to the owner of the cassettes. Dance On The Ceiling is a music piece from Ghosts Short Film. Not Guilty sounds pretty fake. And Ghost of Another lover isn't complete at all.

 

[ChanceToDance]

Ok, so I found this website https://lostmediawiki.com/Michael_J...shed_songs_from_American_musician;_1974-2009)
that lists some of MJ's unreleased songs that might have been worked on by him. From this website, there is:

Bassouille

Michael Jackson, Bruce Swedien

Unknown

Written in 1994 during the HIStory sessions; alternatively known as "Basszouille"; a fully complete version is known to exist.

Lost

The Best Thing

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and Recorded during the HIStory sessions. Vocally Complete and ready for release

Lost

Bombay Nights

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions; possibly also known as "Blackout and Bombay Girls" or "Bombay Girls".

Existence unconfirmed

Dance On the Ceiling

Michael Jackson, Nicholas Pike

Registered on BMI

Worked sometime between 1996-1997 for "Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix", but didn't make the cut.

Don't Be Messin' 'Round

Michael Jackson

Prematurely announced in 2012, one month before the Jackson Estate's official announcement.

Written and Recorded in 1978 during Off The Wall sessions, in 1982 during the Thriller sessions, from 1986-1987 during the Bad sessions, in 1990 during the Dangerous sessions, in 1995 during the HIStory sessions, in 1999 during Invincible sessions and from 2003 - 2009.

Released(Bad version) Partially leaked(Thriller version) Lost(Other versions)

Evil Eye	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Worked on during the HIStory sessions.	Existence unconfirmed
Faces	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Recorded during the HIStory sessions; would have featured an introduction performed by Nelson Mandela and percussion by STOMP; was cancelled after the 1993 child molestation charges motivated Mandela's advisors to prohibit him from recording; alternatively known as "Face".	Leaked

Ghost of Another Lover

Michael Jackson

Song title listed on a note in Jackson's bedroom.

Written and recorded in 1989 during the Dangerous sessions and 1993-4 during HIStory sessions. Fully complete versions for both sessions are known to exist.

Leaked Lost (HIStory version)

Innocent Man

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and recorded in 1993 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges.

Lost

Neverland Landing

Michael Jackson

Registered with the U.S. Copyright Office.

Written and recorded in 1993.

Lost

Not Guilty

George Harrison

Unknown

Recorded in 1994 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges; featured the Notorious B.I.G..

Lost

People Have to Make Some Sort of Joke

Michael Jackson

Listed during the 1993 deposition.

Unfinished when mentioned in 1993; writing completed in 2000.

Lost

Revenge

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions.

Lost

Willing and Waiting

Michael Jackson

Mentioned by Jackson's engineer in an interview.

Written during the HIStory sessions; produced by Babyface; shelved due to it sounding softer than what Jackson desired for HIStory.

LostLeaked (writer's demo)

That's all, also there being 'Much Too Soon' as always. There's actually a lot more possible songs that we still might have in the vault. Although we cannot confirm the existence of 'Bombay Nights', 'Dance On The Ceiling' -(prob just an outtake of botdf) and 'Evil Eye', do we have any further info about other songs? I cannot search Twitter right now, but there are many sources. Check the site out.

Don't trust wiki pages, they're filled with fake info.

 

[sh_dog]

Don't trust wiki pages, they're filled with fake info.

I understand, but some in this site is true, you know?

 

[sh_dog]

Bombay Nights, The Best Thing, Evil Eye and Revenge are just Instrumental Grooves according to the owner of the cassettes.

Isn't there a possibility that someone else has a different recording that is more complete, just that the person hasn't told it to anyone yet?

 

[ChanceToDance]

I understand, but some in this site is true, you know?

Yeah but for every real info there are 2 more that are fake. Never trust those.

 

[sh_dog]

alr

 

[Hollywood_Tonight]

Ok, so I found this website https://lostmediawiki.com/Michael_J...shed_songs_from_American_musician;_1974-2009)
that lists some of MJ's unreleased songs that might have been worked on by him. From this website, there is:

Bassouille

Michael Jackson, Bruce Swedien

Unknown

Written in 1994 during the HIStory sessions; alternatively known as "Basszouille"; a fully complete version is known to exist.

Lost

The Best Thing

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and Recorded during the HIStory sessions. Vocally Complete and ready for release

Lost

Bombay Nights

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions; possibly also known as "Blackout and Bombay Girls" or "Bombay Girls".

Existence unconfirmed

Dance On the Ceiling

Michael Jackson, Nicholas Pike

Registered on BMI

Worked sometime between 1996-1997 for "Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix", but didn't make the cut.

Don't Be Messin' 'Round

Michael Jackson

Prematurely announced in 2012, one month before the Jackson Estate's official announcement.

Written and Recorded in 1978 during Off The Wall sessions, in 1982 during the Thriller sessions, from 1986-1987 during the Bad sessions, in 1990 during the Dangerous sessions, in 1995 during the HIStory sessions, in 1999 during Invincible sessions and from 2003 - 2009.

Released(Bad version) Partially leaked(Thriller version) Lost(Other versions)

Evil Eye	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Worked on during the HIStory sessions.	Existence unconfirmed
Faces	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Recorded during the HIStory sessions; would have featured an introduction performed by Nelson Mandela and percussion by STOMP; was cancelled after the 1993 child molestation charges motivated Mandela's advisors to prohibit him from recording; alternatively known as "Face".	Leaked

Ghost of Another Lover

Michael Jackson

Song title listed on a note in Jackson's bedroom.

Written and recorded in 1989 during the Dangerous sessions and 1993-4 during HIStory sessions. Fully complete versions for both sessions are known to exist.

Leaked Lost (HIStory version)

Innocent Man

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and recorded in 1993 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges.

Lost

Neverland Landing

Michael Jackson

Registered with the U.S. Copyright Office.

Written and recorded in 1993.

Lost

Not Guilty

George Harrison

Unknown

Recorded in 1994 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges; featured the Notorious B.I.G..

Lost

People Have to Make Some Sort of Joke

Michael Jackson

Listed during the 1993 deposition.

Unfinished when mentioned in 1993; writing completed in 2000.

Lost

Revenge

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions.

Lost

Willing and Waiting

Michael Jackson

Mentioned by Jackson's engineer in an interview.

Written during the HIStory sessions; produced by Babyface; shelved due to it sounding softer than what Jackson desired for HIStory.

LostLeaked (writer's demo)

That's all, also there being 'Much Too Soon' as always. There's actually a lot more possible songs that we still might have in the vault. Although we cannot confirm the existence of 'Bombay Nights', 'Dance On The Ceiling' -(prob just an outtake of botdf) and 'Evil Eye', do we have any further info about other songs? I cannot search Twitter right now, but there are many sources. Check the site out.

Bassouille sounds so ridiculous. If that were real I would be shocked. Like what does it even mean??

 

[Hollywood_Tonight]

Ok, so I found this website https://lostmediawiki.com/Michael_J...shed_songs_from_American_musician;_1974-2009)
that lists some of MJ's unreleased songs that might have been worked on by him. From this website, there is:

Bassouille

Michael Jackson, Bruce Swedien

Unknown

Written in 1994 during the HIStory sessions; alternatively known as "Basszouille"; a fully complete version is known to exist.

Lost

The Best Thing

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and Recorded during the HIStory sessions. Vocally Complete and ready for release

Lost

Bombay Nights

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions; possibly also known as "Blackout and Bombay Girls" or "Bombay Girls".

Existence unconfirmed

Dance On the Ceiling

Michael Jackson, Nicholas Pike

Registered on BMI

Worked sometime between 1996-1997 for "Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix", but didn't make the cut.

Don't Be Messin' 'Round

Michael Jackson

Prematurely announced in 2012, one month before the Jackson Estate's official announcement.

Written and Recorded in 1978 during Off The Wall sessions, in 1982 during the Thriller sessions, from 1986-1987 during the Bad sessions, in 1990 during the Dangerous sessions, in 1995 during the HIStory sessions, in 1999 during Invincible sessions and from 2003 - 2009.

Released(Bad version) Partially leaked(Thriller version) Lost(Other versions)

Evil Eye	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Worked on during the HIStory sessions.	Existence unconfirmed
Faces	Michael Jackson	Unknown	Recorded during the HIStory sessions; would have featured an introduction performed by Nelson Mandela and percussion by STOMP; was cancelled after the 1993 child molestation charges motivated Mandela's advisors to prohibit him from recording; alternatively known as "Face".	Leaked

Ghost of Another Lover

Michael Jackson

Song title listed on a note in Jackson's bedroom.

Written and recorded in 1989 during the Dangerous sessions and 1993-4 during HIStory sessions. Fully complete versions for both sessions are known to exist.

Leaked Lost (HIStory version)

Innocent Man

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Written and recorded in 1993 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges.

Lost

Neverland Landing

Michael Jackson

Registered with the U.S. Copyright Office.

Written and recorded in 1993.

Lost

Not Guilty

George Harrison

Unknown

Recorded in 1994 during the HIStory sessions as a commentary on Jackson's child molestation charges; featured the Notorious B.I.G..

Lost

People Have to Make Some Sort of Joke

Michael Jackson

Listed during the 1993 deposition.

Unfinished when mentioned in 1993; writing completed in 2000.

Lost

Revenge

Michael Jackson

Unknown

Worked on during the HIStory sessions.

Lost

Willing and Waiting

Michael Jackson

Mentioned by Jackson's engineer in an interview.

Written during the HIStory sessions; produced by Babyface; shelved due to it sounding softer than what Jackson desired for HIStory.

LostLeaked (writer's demo)

That's all, also there being 'Much Too Soon' as always. There's actually a lot more possible songs that we still might have in the vault. Although we cannot confirm the existence of 'Bombay Nights', 'Dance On The Ceiling' -(prob just an outtake of botdf) and 'Evil Eye', do we have any further info about other songs? I cannot search Twitter right now, but there are many sources. Check the site out.

Dance On the Ceiling is an instrumental used in the Ghosts video.

 

[Hollywood_Tonight]

“Willing and Waiting” is so good, though the lyrics are pretty embarrassing at points. (“I’d tell you myself, babe, but I’m too shy”? Yikes.)

It definitely wasn’t an aesthetic or lyrical fit for HIStory, but if MJ released Invincible in 1999 as originally planned, I think it would’ve been a knockout.

Yeah… not exactly up to MJ standards LOL i kinda dig the beat though