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marc_vivien said:
Tell-All Book At the Root Of Jackson Family War

20 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson's war with Jermaine/Randy's baby mama Alejandra Jackson is all about a tell-all Alejandra is working on ... sources directly connected with the family and the dispute tell TMZ.

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We broke the story ... the Michael Jackson Estate has filed legal papers trying to evict Alejandra and her kids, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Donte, Randy Jr. and Genevieve from the family home in Encino, which was owned by MJ and now the Estate.

Now TMZ knows what has lead to this legal showdown.

Katherine and her lawyers asked Alejandra and her kids to leave months ago, following the stun gun incident with Jaafar. Alejandra lawyered up, and the Estate put an offer on the table -- the Estate would give her a condo, but in return she'd have to sign a confidentiality agreement and promise, among other things, not to write a tell-all book.

We've learned Alejandra refused to sign a confidentiality agreement and is in "active negotiations" for a tell-all.

When Alejandra was in Japan last month with her kids, everyone assumed she was going away for good and Katherine temporarily moved out to remodel the house.

But Alejandra came back, moved back in, refused to leave, stalling the remodel.

Sources say Katherine's lawyers called the cops last week to forcibly evict Alejandra, but the police said they couldn't do anything without an eviction order ... which is why the Estate is going to court.
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The Estate are the real care takers of MJ's kids , i guess without them out there for MJ3, MJ's kids would be living in the streets.
 
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marc_vivien said:
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IF ANY OF THIS IS TRUE, YIKES!

Alejandra has been living at the Encino home for so long, I'm sure she has MANY, MANY stories to tell.

And I'm not talking about Michael Jackson stories, per se, I'm talking about the TWO brothers she was involved with and how Katherine Jackson has been shielding them from their responsibilities all of these years and what REALLY went on in both of those failed relationships.

I'm sure she "probably" also has some good Joe Jackson stories as well. LOL!

But ME, I would call Alejandra's bluff: "shoot you got something to say, then say it!"
 
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what a mess..Katherine should've put her out a long time ago. Has Alejandra ever held a job during her hookups with Randy and Jermaine? And why aren't Randy and Jermaine housing their own children?

Uncle Michael took care of all of them. No wonder why Katherine needs so much money. In my opinion they all let poor Mike fend for himself, while the folks in that house sponged off of him via Katherine. They all should've done a better job of taking care of and looking out for their brother and son and maybe he would still be here
 
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Big Apple2 said:
But ME, I would call Alejandra's bluff: "shoot you got something to say, then say it!"
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Risky....but I'd go that route too. Besides her truth can't be any worse than the fiction that's out there.

Plus, the Jacksons will deny deny deny. In the end, there's a lot of them and a couple with more visibility and credibility with the general public than she'd ever have. This is a woman who had children by two brothers. She's a walking Jerry Springer show.

They survived LaToya's tell all. They can survive hers too, But she isn't blood, and what they forgave LaToya for, they won't her, especially, since Katherine unnecessarily has been carrying her for years.

And if I were her, I'd check on just how much a book deal will generate. Even something in six figures isn't going to last her too long. Because then, the condo would come off the table and she'd have to totally fend for herself.
 
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Ohood said:
The Estate are the real care takers of MJ's kids , i guess without them out there for MJ3, MJ's kids would be living in the streets.
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That's the truth right there. I pray that the time for them to become adults come really fast. They need to take charge of their lives, money and the estate. Poor kids.
 
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well, Margaret Maldonado's book was an interesting read, to be honest. I don't really think Alejandra can reveal anything that we haven't already heard or (in case we haven't) would be surprised about. I don't think anything I hear about this family will ever surprise me at this point.
 
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ScrEAm.Jack5on said:
So, here we go.. the Estate wants them out & is going to court about it... well Alejandra.. how embarrassing.. time to give it up..



Not true. Katherine doesn't want to kick them out.

Not sure where you're getting that about Prince. More likely it was Alvarez, he caught them with it & remember he got sacked along with Grace. Prince & Paris don't like Grace (that's not just a tabloid rumour).
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Asedora said:
Estate are trying to squeeze Katherine as much as they can. This is not about Alejandra, this is about something else (not going to say what). I would be glad if Katherine will go to court with this issue because it is her property too. Estate thinks that they can do whatever they want but they cannot press Kat forever because some day they can get themselves into a problem.
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blueocean said:
I dont know how acccurate this is, but this should be a decision for katherine only, not the estate if katherine want them out katherine need to go to the courts, branca is over stepping.
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kasume said:
woah, branca and mcclain have some nerve!

Did Michael ever protest to any of that when he was here?? No.

Now, these two think they can run the Jackson family????

Why is this of there concern anyways?

ps: Speaking of this, yesterday during the second day of the hearing, I heard there was another hearing going on that day of Michael's estate, but somewhere else. I don't know if it was a rumor or what, but it was briefly mentioned.
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Told you you don't know what you are yapping about.

Ha ha ha

Tell-All Book At the Root Of Jackson Family War


60 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson's war with Jermaine/Randy's baby mama Alejandra Jackson is all about a tell-all Alejandra is working on ... sources directly connected with the family and the dispute tell TMZ.

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We broke the story ... the Michael Jackson Estate has filed legal papers trying to evict Alejandra and her kids, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Donte, Randy Jr. and Genevieve from the family home in Encino, which was owned by MJ and now the Estate.

Now TMZ knows what has lead to this legal showdown.

Katherine and her lawyers asked Alejandra and her kids to leave months ago, following the stun gun incident with Jaafar. Alejandra lawyered up, and the Estate put an offer on the table -- the Estate would give her a condo, but in return she'd have to sign a confidentiality agreement and promise, among other things, not to write a tell-all book.

We've learned Alejandra refused to sign a confidentiality agreement and is in "active negotiations" for a tell-all.

When Alejandra was in Japan last month with her kids, everyone assumed she was going away for good and Katherine temporarily moved out to remodel the house.

But Alejandra came back, moved back in, and refused to leave, stalling the remodel.

Sources say Katherine's lawyers called the cops last week to forcibly evict Alejandra, but the police said they couldn't do anything without an eviction order ... which is why the Estate is going to court.
 
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JMie said:
well, Margaret Maldonado's book was an interesting read, to be honest. I don't really think Alejandra can reveal anything that we haven't already heard or (in case we haven't) would be surprised about. I don't think anything I hear about this family will ever surprise me at this point.
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Yeah. Unless she accuses someone of murder, it can't be too damaging.
 
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^ agree, even the silly book of Leonard Rowe had some interesting things to read about ,,,i was very much surprised that Janet was able to meet MJ with all her brothers and all they talked about is him joining her failed tour ! to the point that Leonard had to take MJ out of the room becuase little Janet was so mad and shouting at MJ !


at this point i had to remember her words to Oprah and how she was not able to be in the room to discuss his drugs,,,LIAR ! she was mad at him and Rowe felt the need to take MJ out of the room for his saftey while the innocent sister was fighting MJ to save her failed tour
I was like : God , MJ was really victimized by this family :(


by the way no one of the Jacksons object the book and Joe promoted this book all over the world.
 
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JMie said:
well, Margaret Maldonado's book was an interesting read, to be honest. I don't really think Alejandra can reveal anything that we haven't already heard or (in case we haven't) would be surprised about. I don't think anything I hear about this family will ever surprise me at this point.
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Exactly! Besides I don't care if she exposes the Jacksons further, and I doubt she has anything to say about Michael that we haven't heard before. If Michael's own family didn't really knew much about him, why would she be any different? I would say....bring it on! See how long the money lasts.
 
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Do you know that Prince could not pass some exams few months ago !

and Paris videos and pictures all around the net !

and How Blanket was refering to one of the boys as " he has no life " !

the kids are much better off alone if all this is gonna happen on daily basis...they can meet their cousins all the time but their schools and their saftey is a priority !

and guess what their cousins friends are posting all these stories about them !
 
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Actually I'm not happy that I was right about
Alejandra-Jermanie-Randy and Company all the time. I am happy that now, maybe Michael Jackson's children are no longer surronded day and night by them. I wish they were better people, and did not believe in "anything for Money".

Let us pray...
God grant Prince, Paris, and Blanket peace and, please allow thier
father, Michael Jackson to remain near. :angel:

 
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Memefan said:
Told you you don't know what you are yapping about.

Ha ha ha
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What has that got to do with what I said? Stop being so childish.

PCR said:
Well... I have to say I am really glad the State has the guts to make this kind of decitions, which will of course be difficult for Katherine to do. Of course, we can't know for sure what's happening there, but in any case, why is it that wrong to ask for 2 capable adults to take care and provide for their children?
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Interesting. But... what a bad time to make this right in the middle of the horrible mess going on at court :no: This just adds up to the drama.
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Katherine doesn't want to kick out her grandchildren. The DCFS advised & now the Estate are now taking this measure after the offer of the condo wasn't taken up.

Randy & Jermaine are just embarrassing. They seem to have no sense of responsibility for anything, it's like they keep making children and then moving on. MJ was kind enough to support their ex & their kids. I don't know how they don't feel shame when they try to be like MJ making statements about healing the world etc. when they can't even look after their own kids.

And yeh.. all this comes out when the prelim is going on. Katherine has a lot to deal with.

Alejandra.. well, the comapany she keeps is just like her.. there is a rumour going around that her bestfriend's daughter has EDIT: Deleted. I shouldn't have posted that..
 
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Ohood said:
by the way no one of the Jacksons object the book and Joe promoted this book all over the world.
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EXACTLY! Apparently NOBODY in the family was concerned when Rowe and Oxman were calling Michael a "drug addict" to anybody would listen to them.

They also never said a word when Klein was running his mouth.

Then we have Marc Lester, who "claimed" that before he went public with the story regarding Paris, he approached Katherine and wanted to use his going public as leverage so that he could see Paris. As we all know now, Katherine didn't take the bait, and Lester went public.

In my opinion, the loudest noise anybody ever made in the Jackson family was regarding the 3 Casico songs!
 
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can someone exlplain to me why jermaine and randy cant put roofs over their own childrens heads? jerm is renting that huge house in L.A for a start and someone paid for that range rover that randy jr was driving. the price of one of those wouldnt be far off the price of a house!
 
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this book will be interesting.all freaky randy jackson stories will be out ,i think randy is not going to like it .we all know katherine how she likes to protect her kids,if any thing bad happens in that house ,they always blame outsider.if this books come out then, lot of them just got some jobs thanks to Michael again,will loose their credibility whatever little is left.
i officially love estate now .
what was that song which Michael wrote ..................about kids.......feeding them......if can't then ........some one please remind me.
 
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gerryevans said:
This is a woman who had children by two brothers. She's a walking Jerry Springer show.
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Hahah.. brutal but funny as hell!!

X17 also posted a story how Alejandra used to call the paparazzis. Its tabloid so take it for what it is.
Even worse, Alejandra was suspected of leaking inside information about the Jackson children to media outlets for money. The source goes on to tell us:

"Katherine and several members of the Jackson family have suspected Alejandra of leaking information about Prince, Paris, and Blanket, for some time. Activities inside the Encino house only Alejandra would have known about were suddenly popping up on various media outlets. Photographers would show up at specific times and places that the kids were going to be, most times with Alejandra's kids, and somehow they'd know exactly where to be. Alejandra badly needs the money because she isn't working and she's not getting anything from Jermaine and Randy. Tipping off the media has been an easy way for her to make some cash on the side. Katherine just doesn't trust her."
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ScrEAm.Jack5on said:
Katherine doesn't want to kick out her grandchildren. The DCFS advised & now the Estate are now taking this measure after the offer of the condo wasn't taken up.
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Yes, the estate stepped up AFTER Katherine and her lawyers unsuccessfully tried a few times to make Alejandra to move. We dont know if Katherine really wanted this or more felt she HAD to due to DCFS but isnt it better that Michaels children are being brought up in a stable home. DCFS apparantly thought they needed to do some changes.
 
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Vici said:
X17 also posted a story how Alejandra used to call the paparazzis. Its tabloid so take it for what it is.
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I certainly wouldn't be surpised if this information is correct.

I mean, Alejandra has stated in court documents that she has no income of her own, and receives none from Jermaine, YET she was just in Japan. Which I'm sure was not cheap!

That alone leads me to believe that Alejandra could be ONE of the "insiders" the tabloids are always referring to.

I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that she alerts the paparazzi when ever her children are out in public with MJ3. Everybody knows she would like her childen to be famous, and this is a good way for them to get some exposure.

When the children were going to karate class, a lot of folks assumed that Omar was alerting the media, it "most likely" was Alejandra. During that time, I don't believe anybody ever mentioned her name as being a possibility.
 
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Vici said:
Yes, the estate stepped up AFTER Katherine and her lawyers unsuccessfully tried a few times to make Alejandra to move. We dont know if Katherine really wanted this or more felt she HAD to due to DCFS but isnt it better that Michaels children are being brought up in a stable home. DCFS apparantly thought they needed to do some changes.
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Yeh, I'm just saying some people like to make out like Katherine is disregarding her other grandchildren and wants to kick them out of the house & away from her. It's not like that. She loves all her grandchildren. She may have issues with Alejandra, but she wouldn't be wanting to kick out her grandchildren & hurt them, I believe it is with advice from the DCFS. It's difficult on her.
 
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ScrEAm.Jack5on said:
It's difficult on her.
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It also must be difficult that she would have to sign a deal with Howard "The Porn Guy" Mann in order to take care of all of those folks.

Katherine Jackson can LOVE all of her grandchildren from their OWN homes. LOL! I'm sure she loves Marlon, Jackie, Rebbie, and Tito's children also, but none of them live with Katherine.

There is also the fact that THREE of those so-called "children" are now young adults who will or should be out there carving out a future for themselves now.

Realistically, at the age of 80 when a person should be enjoying their golden years, Katherine is basically being forced to take care of adults and their children, when it should be the other way around, in my opinion.
 
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ivy said:
they posted the court documents. You don't have to read the TMZ narrative, you can read the legal documents.
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Thanks for this.
 
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Big Apple2 said:
It also must...
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I don't disagree with any of what you just said Big_Apple2... I didn't say they should be living there. What I said is not in conflict with what you wrote.

BTW, Randy Jr & Donte are both in college.
 
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ScrEAm.Jack5on said:
Yeh, I'm just saying some people like to make out like Katherine is disregarding her other grandchildren and wants to kick them out of the house & away from her. It's not like that. She loves all her grandchildren. She may have issues with Alejandra, but she wouldn't be wanting to kick out her grandchildren & hurt them, I believe it is with advice from the DCFS. It's difficult on her.
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I'm thinking also Alejandra is not the easiest person to live with. Katherine's patience with her has probably always been for the sake of her grandchildren.
 
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Sorry but I do not think we are getting the full story. If Ms. katherine wants anyone out of her home, Mrs.kathrine can do it as we all can do it. And if these people are living there, Mrs. Katherine can give them 30 days to move. It is not difficult; if it was like this, alot of people would be staying in homes that the owners want them out. And to me, at this point, I think everyone needs to stay out of the Jackson's business. I think some people stayed in Michael's business and now that he gone, they need another "Jackson" to punch on.
 
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they posted the court documents. You don't have to read the TMZ narrative, you can read the legal documents.
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Thank you
 
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If you think it is so easy to get a person out of your home, then you should ask all of the squatters how they so easily keep homes and ask landlords in NYC how difficult it is to make someone leave.

But maybe it is different in CA??? Anyone knows?
 
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terrell said:
Sorry but I do not think we are getting the full story. If Ms. katherine wants anyone out of her home, Mrs.kathrine can do it as we all can do it. And if these people are living there, Mrs. Katherine can give them 30 days to move. It is not difficult; if it was like this, alot of people would be staying in homes that the owners want them out. And to me, at this point, I think everyone needs to stay out of the Jackson's business. I think some people stayed in Michael's business and now that he gone, they need another "Jackson" to punch on.
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In my opinion, Katherine's hand's are tied, because she does not OWN the home. In effect, the Estate is the LANDLORD of that property now and only they can ask for an eviction decree.

I would also say that IF Jermaine handled his business like a good father would have, his business would not be in the street. Once Alejandra starting filing "child support" claims, this situation became public, just like it does with ALL deadbeat dads.
 
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We all know a tell all was around the conner, I would be very surprise if she did not write one.
 
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