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[Butterfly26]

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TAJ is true, Thank God they are not being interviewed. Allow them to grow up catch Prince at 21, 22 and then ask him then not now. He needs to heal and learn more about what has occured. Just leave them alone.

Thank you Taj for being there for them as well. MJ would be so damn proud!

 

[AngieJ]

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Oprah did not interview MJ's kids.

Thank God!! This was the thing that was upsetting me the most. If they want to use each other, fine, but leave the kids out of this farce.

 

[Diplomate]

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Good for the kids, they will not speak with a woman who thinks that their father is a pedophile. But Katherine yes...

Anyway, it's still a shame, because one more time everything is in the medias , tabloids, and they look like stupids.

If one person, speaks for the family it will be better for them.

Taj said tabloids like when they are divided, BUT THEY ARE DIVIDED, just the tweets of Randy are a good exemple.

It's not fans who went on TMZ Taj....

 

[love is magical]

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I think Taj hit all the right points. Michael's fans love him so much that we become very protective of him. But, often, we put words into his mouth. We pretend we understand him and know what his thought was. The fact is none of us here ever sit down and had a conversation with him. What WE think the Jacksons should do is simply what we think, not what Michael thought.

I understand Taj's frustration. The negativity directed to his family, even to his grandma ever since the Oprah interview story came out, is not justified. Many of us took the story from rumor sites and assumed the worst. Many of us didn't give Katherine the benefit of doubts. This attitude is not what Michael would have liked to see.

The Jackson Family is never an united family. But, can we blame them? Every family has its own issues. It's just that our family matters are not played out publicly like the Jacksons. Even when Michael was alive, the siblings were never united. So, how can the family has one spoke person when the family members have different opinions all the time?

 

[Big Apple2]

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Well, I really am amazed that people even believed they would be doing interviews, at their age and everything..I mean, they are just children, and with the circumstances they went through, I don't get why people even thought there was a possibility of it. Just IMO

I guess that's what happens when stories circulate and nobody comes out to refute said story until they have gone full circle.

The family came out quick when the "stun gun" stories were circulating, but nobody said boo when this rumor circulated and nobody said boo when the rumor circulated that the children would be appearing on the brother's reality program. Go figure!

And when you think about it, folks out there will STILL believe that the children are going to be interviewed by Oprah. I mean, WE on the various MJ fansites are the only ones who are reading Taj's recent tweets. So in a sense, the "Oprah will be interviewing MJ3" rumor is still out there for folks to believe.

 

[Sophielo]

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At least the rumour has been put to rest now.

 

[AngieJ]

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I guess that's what happens when stories circulate and nobody comes out to refute said story until they have gone full circle.

The family came out quick when the "stun gun" stories were circulating, but nobody said boo when this rumor circulated and nobody said boo when the rumor circulated that the children would be appearing on the brother's reality program. Go figure!

And when you think about it, folks out there will STILL believe that the children are going to be interviewed by Oprah. I mean, WE on the various MJ fansites are the only ones who are reading Taj's recent tweets. So in a sense, the "Oprah will be interviewing MJ3" rumor is still out there for folks to believe.

A rumor like this should've been shot down much quicker than it was.

 

[StacyJ]

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Randy is outraged about his parents talking to Oprah but someone needs to ask him about his little sis Janet.. Was he outraged at her when she spoke to Robin Roberts and Oprah Winfrey? Why hasn't Randy mentioned Oprah interviewing Lisa Marie Presley who will supposedly compare Mike to her father? Why is Randy picking and choosing? I'm all for putting Harpo on front street because she needs to be called out for her fakeness and hypocrisy, but Randy also needs to ask why is his little sis talking to Oprah about interventions? and why is his former sister-in-law talking to Oprah about a man she hasn't been married to in 15 years?

 

[love is magical]

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First of all, I'm not defending the Jacksons. I'm indifferent. I don't like or hate the family.

Instead of asking why the family doesn't react quickly enough to put the rumor to rest, shall we ask ourselves why we buy into rumors printed by tabloids? Why we don't take a step back and have a wait-and-see attitude?

TMZ and other tabloids sites never stop running stories about the Jacksons. Yes, we can blame some of the Jacksons for being stupid enough to approach the tabloids. But, the general public is the one to blame as well. The people who visited the websites give the tabloids the readership they want. The people who believe in tabloid stories help with the constant media frenzy.

It doesn't matter whether Randy Jackson talked to tabloids or not. Even if he didn't appoach the tabloids, the tabloids will find a way to fabricate stories and start rumors.

We, Michael's fans, like what Taj said should know better to not fall into the tabloid traps.

Just my two cents.

 

[ginvid]

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I think Taj hit all the right points. Michael's fans love him so much that we become very protective of him. But, often, we put words into his mouth. We pretend we understand him and know what his thought was. The fact is none of us here ever sit down and had a conversation with him. What WE think the Jacksons should do is simply what we think, not what Michael thought.

I understand Taj's frustration. The negativity directed to his family, even to his grandma ever since the Oprah interview story came out, is not justified. Many of us took the story from rumor sites and assumed the worst. Many of us didn't give Katherine the benefit of doubts. This attitude is not what Michael would have liked to see.

The Jackson Family is never an united family. But, can we blame them? Every family has its own issues. It's just that our family matters are not played out publicly like the Jacksons. Even when Michael was alive, the siblings were never united. So, how can the family has one spoke person when the family members have different opinions all the time?

We may not know MJ personally. That is true. But we know what Oprah's thoughts have been on MJ and how she tried to influence people against him. That is not debatable. Also, we know what it means to have loyalty. Yes, sometimes this is taken too far. But I am not mad at anyone who has been upset at Kat and Joe going on Oprah. With the family's track record is it no wonder that fans are skeptical? And I doubt them going on Oprah was something MJ wanted. This is not HIS wants it is THEIRS. Clearing his name might be what he wanted, but I am going to put my head on the line and say he didn't say to them, "Go on Oprah and clear my name." I am not going to believe that.

Secondly, we are MJ's fans not his clones. We have our own minds. Yes we may be influenced by him, but he is not a dictator for how we should feel. We all have differnt experiences from him and from one another. Some people will take a situation like this and shrug. Others because of their experiences will react more aggressively. Why can't people understand we are not robots? Why is everybody always trying to stop people from feeling as they do? Yes we try not to OVERreact. But reacting is what some of us do.

Thirdly, it is because the Jacksons are in the spotlight that will air all of their dirty laundry that they should try to be mmore united and speak with one voice. They know everyone is hanging on to their every word (if not for anything but to find inconsistency) so why are they the very ones feeding in to this?

Taj (who I really like) finds this frustrating. Well, guess what? So do many of the fans. We are protective of MJ's kegacy and by extention his children. How do you think we feel when stories like these come out? The fact that the children will not be on Oprah only takles off the top tier of an already crumbling building. It does erase everything else they have done. Story after story made of sticks. Is it any wonder we are waiting for the either the big bad wolf to blow it down? Or the spindle on top that makes it crash. Sometimes, I think fans forget everything that has happened and act as if we make all of this stuff up out of thin air. And reacting like they don't have a track record of screwing MJ over.

I am extremely frustrated still.

 

[Memefan]

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Thank Goodness...some common sense in this madness.

Randy needs to go kick rocks...

 

[Graf]

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edit.

 

[love is magical]

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We may not know MJ personally. That is true. But we know what Oprah's thoughts have been on MJ and how she tried to influence people against him. That is not debatable. Also, we know what it means to have loyalty. Yes, sometimes this is taken too far. But I am not mad at anyone who has been upset at Kat and Joe going on Oprah. With the family's track record is it no wonder that fans are skeptical? And I doubt them going on Oprah was something MJ wanted. This is not HIS wants it is THEIRS. Clearing his name might be what he wanted, but I am going to put my head on the line and say he didn't say to them, "Go on Oprah and clear my name." I am not going to believe that.

Secondly, we are MJ's fans not his clones. We have our own minds. Yes we may be influenced by him, but he is not a dictator for how we should feel. We all have differnt experiences from him and from one another. Some people will take a situation like this and shrug. Others because of their experiences will react more aggressively. Why can't people understand we are not robots? Why is everybody always trying to stop people from feeling as they do? Yes we try not to OVERreact. But reacting is what some of us do.

Thirdly, it is because the Jacksons are in the spotlight that will air all of their dirty laundry that they should try to be mmore united and speak with one voice. They know everyone is hanging on to their every word (if not for anything but to find inconsistency) so why are they the very ones feeding in to this?

Taj (who I really like) finds this frustrating. Well, guess what? So do many of the fans. We are protective of MJ's kegacy and by extention his children. How do you think we feel when stories like these come out? The fact that the children will not be on Oprah only takles off the top tier of an already crumbling building. It does erase everything else they have done. Story after story made of sticks. Is it any wonder we are waiting for the either the big bad wolf to blow it down? Or the spindle on top that makes it crash. Sometimes, I think fans forget everything that has happened and act as if we make all of this stuff up out of thin air. And reacting like they don't have a track record of screwing MJ over.

I am extremely frustrated still.

I understand your frustration. I'm very frustrated myself. Seeing Michael's name and his children mentioned on TMZ upsets me all the time. I hope you don't take my post as finger-pointing to fans. I'm one of Michael's fans. And, I never forget how Michael's life is destroyed.

But, what can we, Michael's fans, do with regard to the Jackson family? Like I mentioned before, the Jackson Family has never been an united family even before Michael passed away. What we are capable of doing is to stay objective and don't give tabloids the business they don't deserve. I know fans have reasons to be angry and negative towards the Jacksons and Oprah. Unfortunately, by doing so, we fell into the traps set by the tabloids. While it's understandable why fans over-reacted, it's not a wise thing to do. We are not helping by over-reacting.

 

[chanel05]

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Randy is outraged about his parents talking to Oprah but someone needs to ask him about his little sis Janet.. Was he outraged at her when she spoke to Robin Roberts and Oprah Winfrey? Why hasn't Randy mentioned Oprah interviewing Lisa Marie Presley who will supposedly compare Mike to her father? Why is Randy picking and choosing? I'm all for putting Harpo on front street because she needs to be called out for her fakeness and hypocrisy, but Randy also needs to ask why is his little sis talking to Oprah about interventions? and why is his former sister-in-law talking to Oprah about a man she hasn't been married to in 15 years?

Janet was actually working at the time. I do not think her main purpose was to talk about her brother, she had an album to promote. Same with Oprah, she had a movie to promote. She would have done those interviews whether MJ was alive or not. That was not the reason for the interview BUT since MJ died, she kinda had no choice to talk about it. Its the BIG, FLYING, LIME GREEN WITH POLKA DOTS, ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

 

[chanel05]

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I agree with love is magical.. I do not know of any family HALF AS LARGE as theirs that agree on everything. I donot know why people expect them to do so anyway. Arent they humans?!?!? Some of those reporters act like their families stuff dont stink. I bet if you put a microscope to their families, the jacksons wouldnt have anything on them. We just need to burn ALL the Tabloids like MJ said. For years they have misguided people perception of everything Jackson. Now that Mike is not here, they are tryin their hardest to destroy the familys image even more. I pray for them. I just have never understood what the Jacksons have done to be treated so harsh in the media. Did some of the American media not like the fact that a african american family was on top??? I dunno.... but I cannot find one thing the jacksons have done to be cricified the way they are.

 

[Sharon B. Sidney]

I read through a bunch of posts and I apologize for not calling out specifically who said what. I decided it is best to generalize what it is I am trying to say and I hope and pray you all understand&#8230; <BR><BR>
My family is my family. I love them. I don't speak to them often. We don't always agree and I have criticism of things they have done and in my opinion have failed to do, but if someone else were to criticize my family I would be upset. <BR><BR>
Michael has publicly spoken about his hurt concerning his dad. He did this as a way of helping others to understand him - not to pass insult, judgment or hurt to his dad. I don't recall a single interview where he has criticized his siblings. He may have disagreed with many of the things any and or all members of his family have done but be assured of this he LOVED his family! <BR><BR>
We can sit back as spectators and judge Michael's family for the things they do and the choices they make but it's their choices to make and any choices they make it is their consciences that live with those choices. I believe in my heart of hearts the love Mrs. Katherine will forever have for her darling son Michael will propel her to do what she feels is best. Will people try to take advantage of her and the rest of his family? They have been doing so for years so don't expect any parasite to stop now but please don't discredit Michael's mothers heart and her faith and her will to do what is right...<BR><BR>
Michael's name was scandalized as we all know and he endured more hurt, pain, public ridicule, judgment and criticism than perhaps any man in history and he never deserved it!!! Tears well up in my eyes as I write these words because I know some of what he endured and that is probably the most minute part of it all and it is devastatingly overwhelming!!! I love him like you do and in honor of Michael again I am asking you his fans to please try not to criticize his family - they love him- he loved them...<BR><BR>
I am not asking anyone not to feel a certain way. We are human and it is hard to control the way you feel. What I am asking is for us, all of us not to go to some public board or community and lash out in remarks of distrust or dislike or hatred for relatives of his who are trying their best to do what is right... <BR><BR>
I have no idea if Randy was aware of Oprah&#8217;s interview or not but why can we not simply take him at his word. When people bring up issues from years ago concerning the trial or whatever then please know that is old news and ancient history. Someone said Randy was accused of taking money from Michael's website&#8230; Do we know how many people were out to get Michael or what ways they could have transpired to creep into his funds? I'm not simply talking about hired crooks I'm talking about government agents who wanted to bring the black man Michael Jackson down... I am not defending Randy because I don't know what happened but I am saying please give him the benefit of the doubt. Michael never accused Randy of anything so why should we?<BR><BR>
It's time we all start re evaluating our actions - more specifically our words... We are hurting the fans, feeding the press and if his children have access to these websites what do you think they will see, think or believe? Can we please stand together in a show of unity and support and please, please, please can we stop all the backbiting, judgment and hatred that's roaming across the net? Can we start that here? Can we spread it everywhere throughout Michael's fan base as best we can as the Lord allows? Can we do that for Michael? For his children? For each other? Please??? I believe we can look within ourselves and find a way. I know we can!<BR><BR>
There is an amazing saying that goes together we stand - divided we fall. If we stand together we will stand- let's not take the fall into sharing, starting or propelling filthy tabloid rumors. Let's share LOVE, let's encourage other to do the same in LOVE and let's watch as God shines a light so bright through each of our hearts all the darkness will have to flee!<BR><BR>
I love you guys!<BR><BR>
God bless!!!

 

[love is magical]

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God bless you, Sharon.:angel:

 

[Sharon B. Sidney]

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God bless us all...

 

[Moonwalker.Fan]

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Here is what Oprah did to betray Michael Jackson:

Back in 1993 when he was the biggest star on the planet she was granted an interview. Michael hated to give interviews because he felt that were so intrusive AND usually what he said got twisted around. However, he gave her the boost of her career and then when the allegations came out -- she turned on him and used several of her shows to mock him. She laughed with Diane Sawyer about his relationship with LMP. She made fun of him with Paul McCartney who is another one who's story has changed since MJ died. McCartney always claimed that MJ pretty much ripped the rug out from under him buying the Beatles catalogue and then after MJ's death -- McCartney is on Letterman saying that the rift between them didn't come from the purchase of the catalogue but rather that McCartney felt that he should get a higher percentage of royalties paid to him and MJ wouldn't do it. Then in 2003, Oprah had LMP and her hypocritical mother on her show so they could all bash him and have everyone laughing about it. It was just very sad. When MJ died, Oprah didn't acknowledge his death, until 3 months or so later when she had a "tribute" to him which was basically her re-airing their 1993 interview and her talking about how "she" felt, etc. It was extremely disappointing. Many fans have asked repeatedly for her to have interviews with Tom Mesereau and others who had positive things to say -- but she to this date has not done so. Aphrodite Jones, who wrote the Michael Jackson Conspiracy, which was a very good book, wanted to promote her book on Oprah and was turned down. So that's where the "betrayal" comes in. Much the same with all the media where Michael was concerned -- lies told as truths, rumors and innuendoes told as truths with no fact checking whatsoever. All to take him down for no reason!

 

[bluetopez]

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well good I'm relieved



is that a jab at Randy?

I hope it was cause Taj wants to support his grandma and wants the fans to also! But, Randy is the one moaning saying if he knew he would have stop it the interview!

Yet, had no problem with Janet nor LMP going on there that is just weird! They truly need to work together, the Jacksons! But, what can I except from Randy a guy his own Daughters love but, can't stand!:doh:

 

[earthlyme]

Oh my goodness.....

Yep&#8230; he beat them not ones but twice&#8230; it was Eliza Shaffy (wife) and 14 month old infant (Steveanna Jackson).

Article: Randy beating his wife

Sad Story, but true :no:


L.o.v.e.
Romi

 

[ginvid]

I don't recall a single interview where he has criticized his siblings. He may have disagreed with many of the things any and or all members of his family have done but be assured of this he LOVED his family! <BR><BR>

No one is saying he did not love his family. I recall when he was being interviewed for the Moonwalker book I think he said some things that weren't flattering to some family members. But it was only surface stuff. Nothing scandalous. He didn't speak about them negatively IN PUBLIC other than that I know of. I'm sure it is because he loved them very much and had a sense of right and wrong when it came with dealing with his family.

We can sit back as spectators and judge Michael's family for the things they do and the choices they make but it's their choices to make and any choices they make it is their consciences that live with those choices. I believe in my heart of hearts the love Mrs. Katherine will forever have for her darling son Michael will propel her to do what she feels is best. Will people try to take advantage of her and the rest of his family? They have been doing so for years so don't expect any parasite to stop now but please don't discredit Michael's mothers heart and her faith and her will to do what is right...<BR><BR>

I have not seen one time where anyone has said Katherine does not love MJ or that she is not doing what she thinks is best. But just because your intentions are good does not mean that you cannot go about something the wrong way. Sometimes when you are too close to a situation it is hard to be objective. You make decisions out of emotion that may not be everyone's best interest. I do know Kat has spoken about before on MJ's behalf and he did not like it. He was angry at that and said he wish she had not. Now MJ is not here to defend himself anymore, which is why they have to be that much more careful of how they approach things. What they say will be the final word. There is no MJ anymore to clarify or refute. They have a huge responsiblity they are taking upon themselves and they cannot do so lightly. They may not feel they are, and I am noone to say they are not. But I simply observe and report as I see it.

Michael's name was scandalized as we all know and he endured more hurt, pain, public ridicule, judgment and criticism than perhaps any man in history and he never deserved it!!! Tears well up in my eyes as I write these words because I know some of what he endured and that is probably the most minute part of it all and it is devastatingly overwhelming!!! I love him like you do and in honor of Michael again I am asking you his fans to please try not to criticize his family - they love him- he loved them...<BR><BR>
I am not asking anyone not to feel a certain way. We are human and it is hard to control the way you feel. What I am asking is for us, all of us not to go to some public board or community and lash out in remarks of distrust or dislike or hatred for relatives of his who are trying their best to do what is right... <BR><BR>

You assume they are doing what is in his best interests. You assume they are doing their best. Besides, that is what this board is for. We are the family here. We are complaining to our family here. If we cannot come on an MJ board and complain about what anyone (including his family) is doing to better and/or destroy his legacy, than where are we supposed to go? This is a kind of therapy. We can get out all of the emotions we have to people who actually care about MJ. And, we can find comfort in those with like opinions as well as something to think about for others who feel differently.

I have no idea if Randy was aware of Oprah&#8217;s interview or not but why can we not simply take him at his word. When people bring up issues from years ago concerning the trial or whatever then please know that is old news and ancient history. Someone said Randy was accused of taking money from Michael's website&#8230; Do we know how many people were out to get Michael or what ways they could have transpired to creep into his funds? I'm not simply talking about hired crooks I'm talking about government agents who wanted to bring the black man Michael Jackson down... I am not defending Randy because I don't know what happened but I am saying please give him the benefit of the doubt. Michael never accused Randy of anything so why should we?<BR><BR>

MJ was too good to come out in public and down a family member. I cannot speak on some of the older things family members have done because I don't know (I keep trying to find out so I can be educated, but no takers). However, I can clearly observe what has been happening since MJ's death and that hasn't been pretty. Why should people give a person who in their eyes has a track record of lying the benefit of the doubt?

It's time we all start re evaluating our actions - more specifically our words... We are hurting the fans, feeding the press and if his children have access to these websites what do you think they will see, think or believe? Can we please stand together in a show of unity and support and please, please, please can we stop all the backbiting, judgment and hatred that's roaming across the net? Can we start that here? Can we spread it everywhere throughout Michael's fan base as best we can as the Lord allows? Can we do that for Michael? For his children? For each other? Please??? I believe we can look within ourselves and find a way. I know we can!<BR><BR>
There is an amazing saying that goes together we stand - divided we fall. If we stand together we will stand- let's not take the fall into sharing, starting or propelling filthy tabloid rumors. Let's share LOVE, let's encourage other to do the same in LOVE and let's watch as God shines a light so bright through each of our hearts all the darkness will have to flee!<BR><BR>
I love you guys!<BR><BR>
God bless!!!

I am sorry. But there are too many people on this board who are not going to excuse the behavior of anyone who is damaging to MJ - family or not. I know I am not going to support or stand united at blatant attempts to undermine, destroy, or lie on MJ just because they share the same blood. If they are dirty in what they do, I am going to call it out. MJ fans may be divided on many issues. But support of MJ is not something they are divided on.

I think what you say is correct in HOW we say things. Someone did something to me before that I was very upset about. I called them out and was pretty harsh. I felt I was correct because what I said was the truth. A friend told me that there was a way to expose someone without stripping away all of their dignity and without reduce them to a subhuman level. This is something that I am still learning.

 

[rsw22]

Yep… he beat them not ones but twice… it was Eliza Shaffy (wife) and 14 month old infant (Steveanna Jackson).

Article: Randy beating his wife

So exactly wht is your point?

This is the hatred that's being spoken of. Many many couples have fights. It's a reality of life. Even the very humble have fights once in a blue moon. A man may strike out in anger. Immediately he's labelled a wife-beater. But that make more than 70% of couples wife beaters because atleast every relationship has some clash at some point.

Because Randy is well known, suddenly his domestic clash is in the news and you try and bring it here to use against him over an unrelated matter just like teh media who when they cannot win a point instead turn to descrediting that person.

Okay, so if Randy is a wife-beater as you want to paint out from a story where you haven't heard both sides of teh story, does that make affect his statement one way or another?

And don't forget if he was a wife beater, like Chris Brown and Charlie Sheen, he would have been prosecuted. Oh but you ran off with one side of the story unlike when Geragos said, for the truth to be told, you must hear both sides of the story.

It's hard to find that anti-dote for rabid hatred towards someone but try to examine yourself a bit.

 

[CherubimII]

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I never go to the 2300 Jackson Street Section,
because, I don't want to read about any of
Michael Jackson's siblings or his father.

I am a fan of only Michael Jackson and his children:
Prince, Paris, and Blanket.

 

[Memefan]

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So exactly wht is your point?



Okay, so if Randy is a wife-beater as you want to paint out from a story where you haven't heard both sides of teh story, does that make affect his statement one way or another?

And don't forget if he was a wife beater, like Chris Brown and Charlie Sheen, he would have been prosecuted. Oh but you ran off with one side of the story unlike when Geragos said, for the truth to be told, you must hear both sides of the story.

It's hard to find that anti-dote for rabid hatred towards someone but try to examine yourself a bit.

First, the poster was answering a previous poster's question about Randy being a CONVICTED criminal.

Second, Hmmmmmmm....how do I put this?....He was charged & was to be prosecuted. He plead no contest=similar to a guilty plea.

The judge ordered he be locked up in a psyche ward for 30 days.

 

[Sharon B. Sidney]

Ginvid you said "If we cannot come on an MJ board and complain about what anyone (including his family) is doing to better and/or destroy his legacy, than where are we supposed to go?" I gave some thought to that as well as "We are the family here. We are complaining to our family here. " and here is what I determined&#8230; <BR><BR>
First off anyone is free to do what they want as long as it does not hurt, harm or endanger another. I'll skip discussing our liberties though I could say quite a bit just from that...
When you ask where can fans go if not on a public forum and that we are family my heart compels me to say that even so are not Michael's fan in a way an extended part of his family? <BR><BR>
When we vent on public forums do we take notice that others come here as well? Do we realize there are private messaging capabilities on these forums where we could "vent" in private without spreading hatred and distrust?<BR><BR>
Do we take into consideration that Michael loved his family and if he did not blatantly talk against them for the love in his heart should we betray his efforts and take upon ourselves an opportunity to destroy them in his absence?<BR><BR>
If someone feels it is therapeutic to speak badly about Michael's family and call them out for the wrong they think they are doing couldn't they do that privately with fans they know rather than hide behind a screen name where no one will be the wiser as to who is planting these thoughts in the heads of his fans and blasting them publicly?<BR><BR>
You say that I assume that his family has his best interests and if so I err on judgment than please let it be on the side of love rather than a wrong presumption directed it in anger, distrust or hate... <BR><BR>
Maybe they will make mistakes and maybe everyone&#8217;s intentions within his family are not motivated in love but I know we have a God in heaven who says "vengeance is mine." "I will repay."<BR><BR>
Michael was one of God's elect chosen servants and I am certain He is keeping record of the wrongs done to Him... We aren't able to. If we could judge the heart and motives of men then I would say go for it, but we can't... All we can do is guess and presume, spread love or spread hate... <BR><BR>
" MJ fans may be divided on many issues. But support of MJ is not something they are divided on." If we are truly supporting MJ then we will stand for love! <BR><BR>
Earthlyme I hate to do this but you posted a link concerning allegations and charges against Randy. I typically do not follow links however I did and it was only a portion of the news article so I did a search on the title. Here is the link I got: http://news.google.co.uk/newspapers...5461,3965108&dq=cops+seek+randy+jackson&hl=en
Before I could read the article accusing Randy I noticed at the top of the page A column dedicated to trashing Michael stating and I quote &#8220;This is the cover of Michael Jackson&#8217;s latest album which will be launched soon. Critics say this album will be a test of Sony&#8217;s US$50 (aboutM$135) million gamble on a has- been who is making his first foray into the 90s. -AP Picture.
The article went on to claim that Randy beat his wife and &#8220;infant daughter&#8221; a fourteen month old girl and that he was sentenced to 30 days in jail&#8230;<BR><BR>
I am not defending Randy on this but I am going to use some logic&#8230; Does anyone here think that the courts would give a 30 day sentence to someone who beat a child? Would the prosecution offer someone who beat AN INFANT a plea bargain for thirty days in jail for beating an infant? I do not have a lot of faith in the judicial system but I do not for one second believe that story to be true! If it is true then the attorneys, the judge and Randy should be placed in prison<BR><BR>
Let&#8217;s look closer at what is going on in this newspaper headline&#8230; We see Michael being attacked at the top of the page and what appears to be an attempt to further scandalize Michael they write about his brother in what was likely a domestic dispute saying he failed to show for sentencing on &#8220;abuse of his wife and infant child.&#8221;<BR><BR>
Many people fail to realize the racism that was rampant and in many places still exists blatantly or in hiding in America. L.A. police officers were notorious for setting up black men for crimes they didn&#8217;t commit or distorting what they had done into a far worse offense. <BR><BR>
I challenge you to look back to racial crimes within the nineties&#8230; Randy was married to a non black woman, Michael was parading around with Brooke Shields and the powers that be or should I say the secret societies couldn&#8217;t stand Michael&#8217;s success and wanted to bring him down.
When Michael did an interview with Life Magazine he allowed people to see the wealth God had blessed him with in the form of Neverland and green eyed monsters went into action- it&#8217;s as simple as that! <BR><BR>
As for Randy and his daughter I wont claim to know what their relationship is like or why but I will say I know too many women who try to badmouth children&#8217;s dads to the child creating a hate that the dad did not deserve. Often times it is because the woman is left and her personal hurt and anger is seen and empathized by the child. In worse case scenarios women tell their children their dad does not love them or want anything to do with them&#8230;<BR><BR>
I&#8217;m done talking for now but again I implore you all to please be kind, show love and try not to judge. Only God can do it rightly.<BR><BR>
God bless!!!

 

[LindavG]

Yep… he beat them not ones but twice… it was Eliza Shaffy (wife) and 14 month old infant (Steveanna Jackson).

Article: Randy beating his wife


Sad Story, but true :no:


L.o.v.e.
Romi

That's sad (if true), I didn't know that.

I also can't believe the article called Michael a "has-been" when he had just released one of the best selling albums of all time (wasn't Bad the best selling album ever after Thriller at some point? Oprah said this in her interview with MJ). Pathetic.

 

[ginvid]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I am just going to disagree with you on this one, Sharon. I know you are trying to be balanced, but I do not think you are. I do not think criticizing his family for blatant wrongdoing is wrong. Nor do I think a person is betraying MJ in any way if they do so. Now I can agree as I said multiple times before that being unnecessarily harsh to the point of stripping them of all dignity is wrong. But disagreeing with some of the things they do and stating such is all ok in my book. Fans need to realize that this is a forum where people come to express their thoughts, their agreements and disagreements, their approvals and disapprovals. That is what a forum in for.

I think some fans need to stop pointing their noses down at any one who, especially when it is called for, expresses anger at something the family does. And it is not right for anyone to come on this board and try to stop people from expressing these feelings in an intelligible manner.

So you are saying we can say only good about the family and if people want to say something bad they have to PM someone? PM whom? How are you going to vent? How are you going to express your thoughts and your feelings? Must everything you feel be done in secret just because it makes some fans feel uncomfortable? Give me a break. I am so tired of all of this back handed defending of these people who wrong MJ under the guise of love. And, people assuming if you say anything bad about a family member, you don't stand for MJ. It boggles my mind and I find it upsetting.

I am really trying to be calm here because I know you mean well. But you are coming off to me as very judgemental yourself. You are grouping all people who do not agree with the family together as speaking out of hate, lies, a misplaced distrust, and bitterness. And I for one find this as insulting and far from the truth.

You say you would rather err on the side of love as opposed to a wrong presumption. Well, who are you to decide a presumption is wrong?

I have to apologize again. but some fans have their boards mistaken. We are here to celebrate MJ. We are here to appreciate him and his works. And, we strive to have a fan community that allows ALL types of fans to speak in loyalty to MJ and not in loyalty to his family when they repeatedly show they they do not have a similar concern.

A fan community that censors EVERYTHING that the family does to wrong MJ relegating it to PMs is not community that has his best interests at heart. The fans deserve to know who is trying to destroy the man we all come here for whether blood family or not.

And Mj did not speak against his family in public because of love he had for them. Again I have to say that we are his fans not his clones. Just because MJ chose to act or feel one way does not mean we are all going to follow suit. I really cannot understand why some fans cannot understand that all fans do not feel this way. And no, it doesn't make them any kess of a fan. It makes them human.

I thank you for your opinion. I enjoyed hearing it. And if that is the stance you will take, than it is good for you. But please do not look down upon other fans who do not feel and act similarly.

 

[yaazgurl]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

LOL.


His tweets go nowhere, just on MJ boards.

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Not true. His tweets have appeared in Jet Magazine. As I don't read a lot of other magazines not sure if they have appeared other places as well. And Stacy J I completely agree regarding Janet. He should have a problem with what Janet said period. Doesn't mean he's not right about this though.

Just saw Taj's tweet. I'm so glad the children were not interviewed. And Stacy J, I don't think Randy can control or have a say so in what Lisa Marie does. But I totally agree on Janet.

Good points rsw22. I will tweet Randy and ask him to challenge Oprah and have Meserau on. And its very important what Randy emphasized about Oprah airing her shows during deliberations. I didn't know that. I just know she has been negative during and after the trial.

 

[blankyluvdoodoo]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

thank god .thank u taj for explanation ,now i can wait and watch drama on that interview because joe is there.