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way do we care how much albums MJ sells???....waht dose mathere is how goos lyrich he is writing and how good msician he is?....not how much he is selling!!!...we all know that it is up to the promotion how much he is selling and not the quallity if the work....so way do we care so much about it?....the best muscic that has been made did never make it to the top:(

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I can see your point, and I agree. I'd like Michael to be popular, but even if his next album doesn't sell well, as long as it's a good album I'll be buying it.

People place too much importance on record sales. They're not the be all and end all of everything.
 
We care because they care! :D

Seriously, I can't honestly say that I don't care if it sells because I want to see Michael on top of the game. All fans want to see that. The real question is will you continue to support him if it doesn't sell. And my answer is yes, all the way. Til he is dead in his grave. And even after that.
 
Aww, I like all these responses. I'm sure Michael would be happy that we care about his success. I agree, selling a lot of albums really isn't everything, although it does help you to stay on top.

Then again, as long as Michael is content in his life and feels fulfilled, I'll just be happy with that. ^_^
 
shipoffools said:
I can see your point, and I agree. I'd like Michael to be popular, but even if his next album doesn't sell well, as long as it's a good album I'll be buying it.

People place too much importance on record sales. They're not the be all and end all of everything.
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Excellent post!

We're Michael fans regardless of how much he sells, right?

But we definitely do want him to be popular and we do want him to get the recognition he deserves. :yes:
 
Michael cares because he had written on his mirror '100 million' when making THRILLER because thats how many albums he wanted to sell.
 
To brag. I personally find it hilarious to point out that MJ's listed sales are higher than Madonna's, Britney Spears's, NSYNC's, BSB's, and Justin Timberlake's combined, especially when some idiot calls a current pop star the new KOP.
 
nationtonation said:
way do we care how much albums MJ sells???....waht dose mathere is how goos lyrich he is writing and how good msician he is?....not how much he is selling!!!...we all know that it is up to the promotion how much he is selling and not the quallity if the work....so way do we care so much about it?....the best muscic that has been made did never make it to the top:(

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Well MJ's is considered among the best and it DID make it to the top.:D
 
i give a **** because if he doesn't sell that well, the haters will use it to build more hate ... DUH
 
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marnifrances said:
Excellent post!

We're Michael fans regardless of how much he sells, right?

But we definitely do want him to be popular and we do want him to get the recognition he deserves. :yes:
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but (unfortunately)even some fans are influenced by the number... look "Thriller" versus "Invincible".....


and I wish him the biggest selling success with his new project:punk:
 
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I care because the more he sells the more likely he is to keep producing music. It might take him an age to release it but it is always worth the wait.

The fact that it annoys the haters is an added bonus.
 
Sales are important because it adds to his legacy and selling music helps him get paid. I'm sure Mike and any other artist would rather sell than not to. I think they like the money aspect
 
Record sales will go down in the record books! Loads of musicians have made beautiful songs and albums but many are forgotten after a time. It is important for when our children's children look up what the biggest selling album/musician is they will see the name of MJ.

The sales of Thriller can never be broken because of the advancement in technology. You can download a song without ever paying for it these days!
 
because if his sales are high people think he's better (people as in non-fans) and it makes him look sooo good.
 
cinderella said:
but (unfortunately)even some fans are influenced by the number... look "Thriller" versus "Invincible".....


and I wish him the biggest selling success with his new project:punk:
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Well that's not necessarily true because "Dangerous" seems to be the favorite album on this board and while it sold very well, it didn't sell as much as "Thriller" as we all know. As for "Invincible", maybe some fans were influenced by the media and others labelling it as a flop but aside from a few tracks, the album as a whole was pretty underwhelming and not as good as his other albums.

I think it's only natural to want to see your fave singers do well though. I want the best for Michael and hope that his new album is a success, but if it flops it's not the end of the world and regardless Michael will still be Michael. His legacy is set in stone. A flop album is NOT gonna change that. I'd rather that the new album be good and only sell moderately than him release a crap album and it do well.

I'll take quality over quantity any day!
 
Why I want MJ's next album to sell well..

1) Overcoming peoples low expectations for MJ sales
2) just to have that record.. "Best selling".. Of the year, of the week, etc.
3) Sales is the based that how an album was exepted by people..

For example, 10 years from now when people look back at albums came out... They will judge what was BIG by what sold most.

Let me give an example..

The Bad album was HUGE.. In the BAD era, he reached hights in music and entertainment that he did not get close to with THRILLER.. 1989's highest paid entertainer.. LARGEST world tour of the 80's... Reaching world sucess that he did not even reach with Thriller..

But now looking back what gets all the attention?? Thriller.. Yes a lot of it has to do with what came with Thriller... the ground breaking moments.. BUT, BAD really pushed him to a larger worldwide fame.. Larger than Thriller. But BAD hardly ever gets any attention.

With 'Thriller' Michael became an world icon. With 'Bad' he became a world legend.

With BAD Michael became a BRAND on his own..

If BAD were to be Michaels best selling album, it would have a BAD 25 coming up and never would have really given much thought to a THRILLER 25.
 
if you are a SuperStar in the game called the Music Business then sales do matter and MJ every since he was on Motown was told about hit records and sales. I mean he is measured unfairly but it comes with the territory based on his track record of album sales throughout the world. who else Black, White Green, brown,etc.... has been Where MJ has been in terms of Numbers???

now having said all of that I would love a soulful album from MJ unplugged and low key. he done did it all and now it's time to be smooth.
 
mistermaxxx said:
if you are a SuperStar in the game called the Music Business then sales do matter and MJ every since he was on Motown was told about hit records and sales. I mean he is measured unfairly but it comes with the territory based on his track record of album sales throughout the world. who else Black, White Green, brown,etc.... has been Where MJ has been in terms of Numbers???

now having said all of that I would love a soulful album from MJ unplugged and low key. he done did it all and now it's time to be smooth.
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I agree..........
 
I think why it matters is because the media and the public always think about how much Thriller sold and then constantly hold him to that yardstick for every album that he has released subsequent. If Michael is not selling 20 million plus with an album (which is an absolutely huge figure) the media and public brand it a flop. Due to Mj raising the bar so high, people expect so much more from him and therefore they expect him to break records all the time.

However in my eyes Michael shouldn't be judged by album sales although what he has acheived with his sales his phenomenal, the factor that is much more incredible is the fact that his music is timeless and broke through so many racial and cultural barriers and has made such a huge impact on the entertainment industry. He revolutionised music and video to the point where almost every artist out there right know borrows from the template that he set. Plus simply as a human being, he is a remarkable person and an inspiration, he's been through the mill and he still keeps going and still looks on the bright side of life.
 
At this point in his career, no, record sales should not bother us or him. He is never going to sell as many albums as Thriller or Bad, even if he comes out with an album that is better than them. No one ever will, the industry has changed too much since then.

However, they won't matter only if Michael acknowledges this publicly. He needs to be humble and honest about the fact that this album will be more like an Off The Wall for the 21st century (as we have heard), focused on the music rather than selling a s*** load of units. This way he will gain both critical acclaim, shut up the haters and give his fans some fantastic music that we all know he is still capable of.

To be honest, I would prefer a casually and naturally fantastic album by Michael that doesn't rely on too much on promotion rather than an attempt to drum up the popularity towards an unachievable height of Thriller or Bad.

It should be like: Heres the album. It's fantastic. Listen to it. Like it? Buy it. Don't like it? ***** you!

Plus the fact, any Michael Jackson album WILL sell well compared to any other artist in the same year... it's just a shame that people continue to compare the 2000s MJ to the 1980s MJ instead.
 
also with SALES..


SALES is the onlything people cannot argue with.. With Michael Jackson people are always trying to prove him to be 'done', 'over' etc...

Now if his new album was released and sold 20 million..

what would people be able to say then??

"it did not sell as much as thriller"..? lol!


When it comes to sales, no one can say ANYTHING negitive, if it sells REALLY HIGH...
 
KOPV said:
also with SALES..


SALES is the onlything people cannot argue with.. With Michael Jackson people are always trying to prove him to be 'done', 'over' etc...

Now if his new album was released and sold 20 million..

what would people be able to say then??

"it did not sell as much as thriller"..? lol!


When it comes to sales, no one can say ANYTHING negitive, if it sells REALLY HIGH...
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I completely agree with you. Hell Thriller 25 is in the top 10 biggest selling albums of the year so far yet when you say that to haters all they can say in response is well it isn't selling as much as the original did. When you tell them its a reissue they go 'oh that's not a valid argument' (of couse it matters, its the biggest selling album of all time which was released 25 years ago and has already sold 104 million lol), they have the nerve to say fans of biased and blinded yet they are pretty much the bunch of biggest hypocrites ever because whenever Michael is successful with something and proves them wrong they always try to downplay it with some illogical argument.
 
AGB said:
I completely agree with you. Hell Thriller 25 is in the top 10 biggest selling albums of the year so far yet when you say that to haters all they can say in response is well it isn't selling as much as the original did. When you tell them its a reissue they go 'oh that's not a valid argument' (of couse it matters, its the biggest selling album of all time which was released 25 years ago and has already sold 104 million lol), they have the nerve to say fans of biased and blinded yet they are pretty much the bunch of biggest hypocrites ever because whenever Michael is successful with something and proves them wrong they always try to downplay it with some illogical argument.
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lol...i don't know an artist out there whose fans are not biased in that artist's favor. lol...so, u know the naysayers are on quicksand...and they know they are on quicksand..and they have a copy at home too. lol
 
actually...who are the MJ haters?...I havent met many. I know many people that dont like MJ and his music. but they dont hate it....is like me...i dont like Elton john (thnak god;)...but I don´t hate him:)
 
nationtonation said:
actually...who are the MJ haters?...I havent met many. I know many people that dont like MJ and his music. but they dont hate it....is like me...i dont like Elton john (thnak god;)...but I don´t hate him:)
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Trust me there are plenty of MJ haters out there who criticise no matter what he does and say things like he never achieved much and he is just a 'song and dance' man etc and plenty of other horrible things. Yet some of those very same 'haters' people secretly have his album tucked away and listen to him on their ipod, that's why them make me laugh sometimes lol.
 
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