Why can't we hire our own expert? (updated on page 3)

[Pentum]

Ah, yeah.

Anyway, if someone were to compare Breaking News a cappella to an MJ a cappella, 2 Bad would be better. He doesn't sing that rough in YRMW. Something like 2 Bad or Scream.

 

[jrsfan]

If you hire an expert, I think someone should check HMH. Parts of it hurt my ears - & Akon has told different stories about it too in Jan 2009. A bit fishy, imo.

Here are interviews:


May 30,2009

The original article is from DAILY STAR, as such, this is being moved to the TABLOIDS section... Note also that the alleged quotes from Akon contradict themselves. First he says "Michael singing I’m not so sure about. He will perform but not sing." Then follows-up by confessing: "He hasn’t told me what he’s got planned. He ain’t told anybody."

EXCLUSIVE: MIMING MICHAEL

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/view/8...Miming-Michael/

AKON believes the King Of Pop will mime during his London residency.

The urban favourite, who has written tunes for Jackson, is planning to hang out behind the scenes at the 02 Arena and will get on stage himself if given the nod.

Akon, 32, told me: “I’m going to have front row tickets. I will have the best tickets in the house and will be so close to the stage you will think that I am on it.

“I’ve got backstage tickets, the whole works.

“Michael singing I’m not so sure about. He will perform but not sing.

“He hasn’t told me what he’s got planned. He ain’t told anybody. But it’s going to be amazing, I can definitely tell you that.”

As well as hooking up with Jackson, 50, Akon, has his duet with sexy singer Shontelle out to download this week.

Stuck With Each Other is an apt title as Akon insists the pair are now “family”.

Shontelle, 23, told me: “I am going to start work on my second album soon and Akon will be producing it.

“He follows me around. He phones people and asks where I am and then he appears there too.

“I hope this is the start of many collaborations between Akon and I.”

Meanwhile, Duffy is sharing advice on stardom with her songwriter and producer friend Steve Booker’s new protegé.

French-born Sophie Delia is working with the Steve, who picked up an Ivor Novello award last week with Duffy, 24, for their co-write on Mercy.

Soph, 28, told me: “I’ve seen Duffy in the studio and we always have great chats. I always had a feeling she was really gifted.

“I’d love to hook up with her, maybe on a duet, so I’m going to suggest it next time I see her or ask Steve to arrange it.”

Sophie’s single Spirit Of Love is available now.





http://mjjr.net/news.php

In a new interview with Tavis Smiley which aired on television January 22, 2009 (and took place on January 9, 2009), Akon spoke at length about the much anticipated collaboration with Michael Jackson, "Hold My Hand," and why the project ultimately fell through. Akon also speaks about Michael Jackson's unmatched patience and his natural intuition for knowing when the moment is right to release records, rather than rushing to release as many artists do. In addition, Akon confirms in the interview that the track was scheduled to be the first release from Michael Jackson's upcoming album, and was also going to be included on Akon's own follow-up album (a tidbit that was first reported by the writer of the song soon after it leaked). A good quality video of this interview segment can be downloaded below (Windows Media Format) or viewed on YouTube, and a text transcript of the interview is also provided.

Video Download: http://rapidshare.com/files/188094457/Tavi...kon20090122.wmv

Streaming Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgIFnwTMqhM

Text Transcript: http://mjjr.net/content174.html (Included below)

Akon: Tavis Smiley

January 22, 2009

Transcribed by http://MJJR.net/ (TSCM)

(Interview conducted on January 8, 2009)

(Jackson-related Excerpt Only)

Smiley: What I was going to say to you, about the Internet, was the Michael Jackson situation.

Akon: That too!

Smiley: That's what I was going to talk about. So, tell the story. You and Michael had done--you tell the story.

Akon: Well, what happened was, me and Mike did this incredible record called "Hold My Hand."

Smiley: Right. Mmm hmm.

Akon: And, I mean, the record is amazing. Phenomenal record.

Smiley: We've all heard it now!

Akon: I know.

Smiley: [Laughing] Even though you didn't plan it that way, but I'll let you tell the story. Yeah.

Akon: And, the concept was that this would be Mike's first release off of his new album. And I would stripe it on my album--on my following release.

Smiley: Mmm hmm.

Akon: That way we could have the outlets open for everyone to be able to receive the record. You know, Mike came up with this just brilliant marketing launch for this record. You know, he's the best at launching a record.

Smiley: No doubt about it.

Akon: He had the whole world paying attention in two minutes! About eight o'clock, check the--he was set up, alright.

Smiley: Right.

Akon: And, before we could get to that point, the record got leaked over the Internet. And, we got over 15 million downloads of the song, for free. So it was like... [Shrugs]

Smiley: [Laughing] "Why put this out?"

Akon: You--I mean, you can't at that point! Everyone already has the record, so.

Smiley: Right.

Akon: You gotta look at it like, that's just a gift to the fans.

Smiley: So, how angry were you though when that happened?

Akon: I was more upset for Mike than me because--you gotta think, like he's a legend. He's been--he kind of paved the way for a lot of us. And, even changed the whole surface of just videos and all of that. So, I felt like this was the perfect moment for him. He did too. And it just, it didn't come off the way we expected it to, so. But, one thing I can tell you, he's probably the most patient person I know, in my life.

Smiley: Yeah? Why do you say that?

Akon: Because he's--not only is he a perfectionist, but he just waits for the right moment. You know what I mean?

Smiley: Mmm hmm.

Akon: Sometimes we don't know what the right moment is until--like me, I just go and pray that it's the right moment.

Smiley: [Laughing] Yeah. No patience here then.

Akon: Because I don't know when the moment is. Especially with music, you know. But he has an intuition. He just feels like, "when that moment is right, that's when I'm going to drop this record."

Smiley: You were saying earlier in the conversation that you could never have imagined as a kid that you'd have this as a career.

Akon: No, never.

Smiley: So then how do you describe not just having a career, but cutting a record with Michael?

Akon: That's--when I came into this business, I came in with a 10-year plan. I truly, like any other corporate environment you know type of situation. Because I always feel like if you don't have a situation or a plan of how to manage your success, you ain't going to have it long. It was more so just watching all the other people do it. From becoming an artist, to an exec, to a businessman. To where you can use everything and market it to make outside money, outside of music. You know, but it was more so just trying to figure out, "okay, I love to do this, and if I'm gonna do it, how can I get paid for doing it?" And I was always the key. I just wanted to be rich, I didn't care how, you know? That was my downfall! That's how I got in trouble, because I just wanted to be rich.

Smiley: [Laughing] I love the artistry! "I just wanna be rich!" And then Michael comes along anyway!

Akon: Yeah, pfff. But he was like the top of my list. He was like on the 10th year. And it just so happened on the fifth year he came in and I was stuck after that, I didn't know where to go.

Smiley: Yeah. [Laughs]

Akon: [Laughing] So I had to make a new plan!

Smiley: Yeah, well. [Akon] made a new plan. Michael is not on the project, but of course you can download it for free, much to Akon's chagrin. You can download the Michael track for free.

Akon: [Laughing] Aww man!

Smiley: But he's got some great collaborations on here though...

This post has been edited by TSCM: Jan 23 2009, 02:08 AM



http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.php?showtopic=39390&hl=akon&st=40

Here's the interview where Akon mentions 50 million downloads. It was a German interview and I got it from MJFC



QUOTE
On your most recent record "Freedom" we are missing the title "Hold My Hand", which you recorded with Michael Jackson and promised to the world.

Akon: But you know the track, right?

pilz:Sure.

Akon: And where from?

pilz: Downloaded from the internet.

Akon: You see. That’s why it is not on my new record. There were 50 million downloads. For free. Everybody owns the song. It would have been irresponsible to publish "Hold My Hand" after that. It was supposed to be Michael Jackson‘s big comeback, after a long time. That would have needed to be presented properly. Big and overwhelming. We decided instead to invest in the future to bring about Michael Jackson’s comeback in a different way. Possibly with a new album of his own. See "Hold My Hand" as a gift to the world.

pilz:How did the collaboration with Michael Jackson come about?

Akon: It was the greatest experience of my life: To work with an artist who has inspired me the most. He influenced everyone, who came after him. And then I was together with him and saw who he is. Felt, how he thinks. He is brilliant, man! He is above everything.

pilz: How did this come about?

Akon: Well, I turned to Peter Lopez, who takes care of everything for Michael. He told me that Michael had been working on a new musical concept for a long time. I was joking: Wow, let me be a part of it. He really made the connection with Michael. I could hardly believe it. A dream. I don’t know, by the way, how Michael got the bad image that surrounds him today.

pilz:We haven’t heard from him artistically in a long time. Instead a lot of irritating activities were reported. Not everyone respects the artist as much anymore after this.

Akon: Did all of them talk to him? Were they close to him? Michael has always been like a ghost. You can’t touch him. He is protected. Nobody can really get to him. I think this causes mistrust in many people. He was so great in the eighties, that the only thing for him left to do was disappear. Everybody wants to see him, but nobody can. Only on pictures. And pictures lie. For many of my generation he has been beyond reality for a long time. I want to change that.

pilz: Evidently you have been observed when you visited a cinema in America with Michael. Jackson supposedly was wearing pajamas.

Akon: That is nonsense, internet nonsense.

pilz:You don’t have to be in the same room to record music.

Akon: I was in the same room with Michael. We were sitting next to each other in the studio and were working. He wrote, I produced. Side by Side.

pilz:How did you get to know Michael Jackson‘s musis in your childhood. With "Thriller"?

Akon: Yes, sure. Everybody learned to love Michael Jackson at the same time. When he sang "Beat It" and danced the Moonwalk. Everyone suddenly moved like that. Everybody wanted to be like him. His videos were motion pictures. It was Michaelmania. Before he retired in the late eighties.

pilz: What condition is he in today?

Akon: Yeah. He is in an incredible condition. He is healthy as hell. Healthier than all of us. I was totally shocked. Wow. If humanity could just see him like that. I’ve never before had the privilege to see such a complete human being. So humble and down to earth.

pilz: But he is a *****. (WHAT A JERK!!)

Akon: Oh, no! Not at all. No, no, no. That’s the thing: He is not crazy or strange. He just simply stands far above everyone else. I wish more people could see him like I was allowed to.

pilz: Where does he actually live now?

Akon: I have no idea. And if I did, I wouldn’t tell you. SWEET ANSWER

pilz: You only recorded one song, "Hold My Hand"?

Akon: Yes, just that one. Oh, how I love that record.

pilzo you know anything about a new album by Michael Jackson. There are rumors.

Akon: He decides that on his own. He is the creator. He could never stop to be creative.

pilz:Jermaine Jackson just recently talked about plans for a comeback of the Jackson Five. Would that be good for Michael?

Akon: Oh yes, that would be great. They don’t really have to do anything new. Just remind everyone, what a legend they are. The Jackson Five! Boy, boy! I would also like to celebrate a comeback. Actually, comebacks with new songs are nonsense.

pilzo you have any idea why Michael Jackson likes Akon of all people?

Akon: We have a lot in common. The same background.

pilz: What background?

Akon: Michael Jackson was sort of a god in Africa. I am from Africa, Obama is from Africa. That’s our connection: Africa. Today I am as famous there as him. Like Obama we represent both continents. All three of us have so much in common.

pilz: Only that Michael Jackson is not that black anymore. (WHAT A JERK AGAIN)

Akon: Please! There are medical reasons for that, not cultural ones.(NICE ANSWER!!

pilz: You could now feel yourself to be the Prince of Pop.

Akon: Whoever is serious as an artist, wants to be the greatest artist of all times. That’s what I pray for. But I would also like to move about freely, be able to go to the movies undisturbed and be a normal person. I am free.

pilz: But Michael Jackson is not free.

Akon: Oh, he is absolutely free! At least mentally. Physically surely not. He basically can’t go anywhere anymore. He is too big

 

[Garden]

Ah, yeah.

Anyway, if someone were to compare Breaking News a cappella to an MJ a cappella, 2 Bad would be better. He doesn't sing that rough in YRMW. Something like 2 Bad or Scream.

This is important. It is also spoken about with the expert in the thread at maxjax. It's an interesting read over there!

 

[ivy]

So basically, The voices DO NOT MATCH !!!!!!!!!! but of course this is only based on preliminary analysis..

I still think that the analysis is flawed. Like I said before Teddy Riley has already told us that some vocals were modified by Melodyne.

so 1) modification with Melodyne can change the pitch and
2) comparing a modified vocal with not modified vocal can give "different" result although they are "the same". (see the below picture)

I still think that you need the raw vocals for a legit analysis

I added this picture as a way to explain what I'm saying. As you can see the picture on the left is original, the one on the right is modified by photoshop. Although they look different they are the same thing.

 

[barok232]

I still think that the analysis is flawed. Like I said before Teddy Riley has already told us that some vocals were modified by Melodyne.

so 1) modification with Melodyne can change the pitch and
2) comparing a modified vocal with not modified vocal can give "different" result although they are "the same". (see the below picture)

I still think that you need the raw vocals for a legit analysis

I added this picture as a way to explain what I'm saying. As you can see the picture on the left is original, the one on the right is modified by photoshop. Although they look different they are the same thing.

So then let's give the experts also samples of JM and see if they can match it with the vocals in the Cascio tracks.

If they match, at least then we can agree that all the supposedly used effects on the raw vocals (eg melodyne) had the result that Michael sounded more than Jason than himself

EDIT still the same truck in my eyes, I don't confuse it with another one

 

[ivy]

EDIT still the same truck in my eyes, I don't confuse it with another one

My point was to explain the possible flaw in the comparison : If those two pictures were went through some sort of comparison such as color spectrum (similar to pitch analysis) the result will come as "different" as one of them was modified.

but in reality as we can see they are the same.

 

[TheMan1998]

I still think that the analysis is flawed. Like I said before Teddy Riley has already told us that some vocals were modified by Melodyne.

so 1) modification with Melodyne can change the pitch and
2) comparing a modified vocal with not modified vocal can give "different" result although they are "the same". (see the below picture)

I still think that you need the raw vocals for a legit analysis

I added this picture as a way to explain what I'm saying. As you can see the picture on the left is original, the one on the right is modified by photoshop. Although they look different they are the same thing.

Actually for me using Melodye or using JM is basically the same.. ether way you end up with someone else - not Michael singing.. So who cares if this someone is human or not? Melodyne could make Michael sing with Bruce Springsteen's voice.. Is that still Michael? Michael would never ever have his voice altered digitally to hide imperfections' like so called singers such as Akon or Usher or Lady Gaga... If all they had is a demo of the songs, than they shouldn't have included them in this album.. Better to sell them to other artists as songs written by Michael...

Anyway, because the lack of participation here, I give up.. Unless one of the senior staff members want to take this further, or perhaps one of the Jacksons, I'm afraid I can't do much here by myself' cause it seems not going anywhere... I only wanted to stop all the useless arguments here.. Personally i don't need a proof that the 3 Cascio songs are fake...

Too bad $ony has won again... the last time they killed Invincible, this time they are simply killing Michael legacy...

 

[Go Flying]

I still think that the analysis is flawed. Like I said before Teddy Riley has already told us that some vocals were modified by Melodyne.

so 1) modification with Melodyne can change the pitch and
2) comparing a modified vocal with not modified vocal can give "different" result although they are "the same". (see the below picture)

I still think that you need the raw vocals for a legit analysis

I added this picture as a way to explain what I'm saying. As you can see the picture on the left is original, the one on the right is modified by photoshop. Although they look different they are the same thing.

melodyne will not change the phonemes

 

[ivy]

Actually for me using Melodye or using JM is basically the same.. ether way you end up with someone else - not Michael singing.. So who cares if this someone is human or not? Melodyne could make Michael sing with Bruce Springsteen's voice.. Is that still Michael? Michael would never ever have his voice altered digitally to hide imperfections' like so called singers such as Akon or Usher or Lady Gaga... If all they had is a demo of the songs, than they shouldn't have included them in this album.. Better to sell them to other artists as songs written by Michael...

now are talking personal perspectives or legal perspective?

Legally speaking a modified Michael is still Michael and a song with a modified Michael vocals isn't fake or fraud. (Plus legally a modified vocal isn't the same thing as using an imposter and labeling it as Michael).

Whether incomplete or songs with modified vocals should be included in an album is a whole different argument and personal choice.

 

[Graf]

now are talking personal perspectives or legal perspective?

Legally speaking a modified Michael is still Michael and a song with a modified Michael vocals isn't fake or fraud. (Plus legally a modified vocal isn't the same thing as using an imposter and labeling it as Michael).

Whether incomplete or songs with modified vocals should be included in an album is a whole different argument and personal choice.

What's interesting about that is, did they not anticipate a reaction like this? Were thinking "Well, these vocals don't really sound like him, but I don't think there will be any sort of negative reaction."...I highly doubt that, a billion dollar company KNOWS what they are doing.

I suppose legally Sony+Estate are not committing a fraud if they just altered his voice, but isn't it a little strange that they would include songs that they knew would cause an uproar? I don't blame fans for this whole mess, I blame the people who decided to put those songs onto the album.

 

[ginvid]

The only thing I do not like about this is when the Musicologist emailed back "Why are the family members not involved? Didn't they start this?" I know this may be kind of small, but this shows already that he is aware of the controversy surrounding this and has an idea of its origens. meaning that he is not objective. I think if this really is going to hold wait, we need an objective person to examine this. Even someone preferably who is not a fan of MJ's.

That may be near impossible to find. I am just saying this is what is needed IMHO.

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

What's interesting about that is, did they not anticipate a reaction like this?

I'm not defending Sony or anyone involved in choosing the songs for this album. Because, although I'm in the middle on the Cascio songs, I hate all the problems with this album and I believe they had ample time to push it back to next year for the purpose of replacing the Cascio songs once the controversy started (even just for the sake of good public relations for business) as well as give the album a better chance in terms of sales. But it's possible IMO that they figured that since "2000 Watts" from "Invincible" was known by the fans to be Michael's voice, then the fans would accept Sony's explanation for these.

 

[Graf]

I'm not defending Sony or anyone involved in choosing the songs for this album. Because, although I'm in the middle on the Cascio songs, I hate all the problems with this album and I believe they had ample time to push it back to next year for the purpose of replacing the Cascio songs once the controversy started (even just for the sake of good public relations for business) as well as give the album a better chance in terms of sales. But it's possible IMO that they figured that since "2000 Watts" from "Invincible" was known by the fans to be Michael's voice, then they would accept Sony's explanation for these.

I agree completely...it's really unfortunate that they did not push it back, just to prevent all this from happening..Although many, including myself would be disappointed that it would have been delayed, I would have completely understood with the thought that it's better to get things done proper at the price of time.

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

What's interesting about that is, did they not anticipate a reaction like this? Were thinking "Well, these vocals don't really sound like him, but I don't think there will be any sort of negative reaction."...I highly doubt that, a billion dollar company KNOWS what they are doing.

One could argue it's because they know the songs are legit. They may sound different, but at the end of the day, it's still him. I highly doubt a billion dollar recording company would purchase songs, and not check if they're legit or not and release them anyway. Or that they'd knowingly and willingly commit fraud for a profit, when they know, there's a chance they'll be sued and in fact lose the financial gain and more.

 

[Graf]

One could argue it's because they know the songs are legit. They may sound different, but at the end of the day, it's still him. I highly doubt a billion dollar recording company would purchase songs, and not check if they're legit or not and release them anyway. Or that they'd knowingly and willingly commit fraud for a profit, when they know, there's a chance they'll be sued and in fact lose the financial gain and more.

Whether they are legit or not, they must have known they would get this kind of reaction. I'm 100% certain of that. Maybe they thought it would be part of the promotion to get people talking, but ended up back firing?

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

That's probably the most logical explanation, yes.

 

[Krshna28]

I have another idea.....

If we have the acapella or demo of a known Michael Jackson.........

..........and then we process it and add Melodyne...........

..........I wonder if we can get Michael to sound so odd like in the Cascio songs????

..........It could give us more evidence that what Cascio (and then Teddy) did is actually possible!!!!


The problem is that I don't have any of required equipment and software........

.......If someone does, please help???

 

[Ashtanga]

:fear:

 

[Nonoka]

Any news on this project?

 

[Krshna28]

No updates.............

No new opinions.........

No new ideas............


So we enjoy arguing...........but are not bothered to go out and find some real evidence to prove or disprove what some of us think?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[wolfrevenant]

No updates.............

No new opinions.........

No new ideas............


So we enjoy arguing...........but are not bothered to go out and find some real evidence to prove or disprove what some of us think?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Probably because no one is willing to lead the project, or everyone forgot about this thread since it's been moved.

 

[Arklove]

^^ Yes, I had forgotten about it since it's been moved....hmmmm

 

[ivy]

One could argue it's because they know the songs are legit. They may sound different, but at the end of the day, it's still him. I highly doubt a billion dollar recording company would purchase songs, and not check if they're legit or not and release them anyway. Or that they'd knowingly and willingly commit fraud for a profit, when they know, there's a chance they'll be sued and in fact lose the financial gain and more.

Whether they are legit or not, they must have known they would get this kind of reaction. I'm 100% certain of that. Maybe they thought it would be part of the promotion to get people talking, but ended up back firing?

I think it's more about control. I mean they knew that some of the family members were against the songs and wanted them removed. They had basically two choices -

1. listen to what they say and remove them - however this would be like giving the control over to family. they might felt that in the future releases etc they could face with similar issues and put in a position to comply with them.
2. hold on to your guns no matter what. they might have thought facing the storm once and for all could be less problematic for the next releases.

 

[144000]

Re: Why can't we hire our own expert?

If you ever want to go this road

First ask if the masters are needed - if the answer is yes that they are needed as I don't assume that Sony will hand those out - it will be a waste of money as you wouldn't be able to get a real comparison and real result.

If they are not needed then compare prices with several alternatives.

and a note although Seth Riggs could be knowledgeable about Michael's vocals he's a vocals coach, he probably is not experienced about forensic comparison techniques that the experts use and he might just be able to give an opinion not an objective analysis.

if seth riggs can be fallable, then, so can an 'objective analysis'. just like a lie detector test can be fallible. there's fallibility, everywhere. ususally, everything comes down to opinion, even though some insist there is 'objective analysis'. that's why when scientists come up with answers, they change their answers with new studies, everyday, and end up with new questions. it happens with scientists doctors, all kinds. and what people tend not to want to admit to..ego is involved. people just want to believe they are right, whether it's individuals or compainies or corporations. my mother was right and a doctor was wrong abouther health, a couple of times. it happens.

bottom line..i've never experienced this mess, when i was faced with a decision regarding buying music. i never had to think about 'deciding'.

in the end..as bogus as people want to believe it is..people go with their gut feeling.

 

[Sunflowers]

Update:

I am currently in contact with 2 other musicologists and forensic audio expert. I sent them 2 sample of a-cappellas my Michael (YRMW) and BN. I cannot reveal their names yet, but here is what on of them wrote:

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So far, my preliminary average pitch analysis of the acapella vocals shows that the voices are not from the same person.

The links used are below:

Here is the link to the suspicious song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmJAKWrjyGU

here is a sample of a a-cappella version of MJ authentic song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjWTdW2qdmc&feature=related

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So basically, The voices DO NOT MATCH !!!!!!!!!! but of course this is only based on preliminary analysis.. What They need is common words spoken/sung by Michael without music that also appear on Breaking News. Can you please help me find those common words? here are the BN lyrics:


Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson.
Reporters stalking the moves of Michael Jackson.
Just when you thought he was done,
he comes to give it again.”

no matter what, you just wanna read it again
no matter what, you just wanna feel it again

now is that strange that i fall in love
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

everybody watching the news of michael jackson
They want to see that I fall,
cause I’m Michael Jackson

You write the words to destroy
like it’s a weapon

you turn your back on the love and you think you can get it again

no matter what, you just wanna read it again
no matter what, you just wanna feel it again

now is that strange that i fall in love
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

now is that strange that i fall inlove
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

all the news today they say CRAZY time
who is stranger today we want this day baby

now is that strange that i fall in love
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

now is that strange that i fall in love
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

On the Dutch version of History (1st cd) Michael says his own name " Hi this is Michael Jackson".
There are probably no better words to compare then someones own name.

 

[wolfrevenant]

Update:

I am currently in contact with 2 other musicologists and forensic audio expert. I sent them 2 sample of a-cappellas my Michael (YRMW) and BN. I cannot reveal their names yet, but here is what on of them wrote:

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So far, my preliminary average pitch analysis of the acapella vocals shows that the voices are not from the same person.

The links used are below:

Here is the link to the suspicious song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmJAKWrjyGU

here is a sample of a a-cappella version of MJ authentic song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjWTdW2qdmc&feature=related

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So basically, The voices DO NOT MATCH !!!!!!!!!! but of course this is only based on preliminary analysis.. What They need is common words spoken/sung by Michael without music that also appear on Breaking News. Can you please help me find those common words? here are the BN lyrics:


Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson.
Reporters stalking the moves of Michael Jackson.
Just when you thought he was done,
he comes to give it again.”

no matter what, you just wanna read it again
no matter what, you just wanna feel it again

now is that strange that i fall in love
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

everybody watching the news of michael jackson
They want to see that I fall,
cause I’m Michael Jackson

You write the words to destroy
like it’s a weapon

you turn your back on the love and you think you can get it again

no matter what, you just wanna read it again
no matter what, you just wanna feel it again

now is that strange that i fall in love
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

now is that strange that i fall inlove
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

all the news today they say CRAZY time
who is stranger today we want this day baby

now is that strange that i fall in love
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

now is that strange that i fall in love
who is the boogie man you thinkin’ of
all went crazy coz im just in love
this is breaking news X2

If you're still interested in finding common words, "everybody" can be found in TDCAU, "stalking" can be found in Privacy (possibly no acapella available though), "matter" can be found in BOW and Who Is It, and "stranger" is obviously in Stranger In Moscow.

"Michael Jackson" can be found in the Private Home Movies documentary as well, but since this is considering singing, I thought I'd add that just in case speech can be used for singing analysis as well.

EDIT: Sorry, found somemore. "Again" can be found in Fall Again (no acapella, I think), and "wanna" can be found in WYWTOM.

Oh and, are one-syllable words being considered as well? I only searched for words that had at least two syllables.

 

[Krshna28]

Bumping the thread..........

Any updates anybody???????.........