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Re: LaToya on Dutch tv, Wednesday May 14

She didn't get to say how he forced her to marry him against her will. The man should have been arrested and put in prison.
 
Re: LaToya on Dutch tv, Wednesday May 14

Datsymay said:
She didn't get to say how he forced her to marry him against her will. The man should have been arrested and put in prison.
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It wouldn't have made a difference. He did spend time in jail before getting his clutches on La Toya but obviously was still a horrible man when he came out. He was too evil to consider. The best thing La Toya did after getting away from him was to get a restraining order and having it enforced rigidly.

I met La Toya several times in 1991, when she did a lot of TV shows and small performances in Europe. She was so battered and abused it was really obvious to anyone who even had their eyes half open. You could see the bruises through the make up. Jack was a horrible, horrible man.

Anyway, Jack Gordon died three years ago, so he must've gotten his rightful punishment by now. :evil:
 
Re: LaToya on Dutch tv, Wednesday May 14

billiejean12, Thank you!
 
Re: LaToya on Dutch tv, Wednesday May 14

My opinion is that she may have been a little jealous and "mad at" her family originally but she did not want to hurt them she just wanted to kind of break free and find her own identity and maybe get a breakthrough as an artist like Janet had. She thought Jack would help her with that but he started to take more and more control over her and started to hit her. I do beleive it was him who forced her to say those thing about Michael because she made several statments in 93 and originally she said she thought he was innocent.
 
Re: LaToya on Dutch tv, Wednesday May 14

Linda74 said:
My opinion is that she may have been a little jealous and "mad at" her family originally but she did not want to hurt them she just wanted to kind of break free and find her own identity and maybe get a breakthrough as an artist like Janet had. She thought Jack would help her with that but he started to take more and more control over her and started to hit her. I do beleive it was him who forced her to say those thing about Michael because she made several statments in 93 and originally she said she thought he was innocent.
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Yes, I agree with that.
 
Re: LaToya on Dutch tv, Wednesday May 14

Dutchie said:
Why be so ignorant? LaToya said she was sorry, she explained why she did it, Michael forgave her so why wouldn't we? It's not even our business, really.
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Well, true that! It's good for Michael, that he could forgive him and I'm glad for him that he could do that, since she is his sister and they shouldn't fight!

But at the same time that doesn't mean, that we, as fans, have to forgive her... I still have ambivalent feelings towards her and all of the things she's saying sound hard to believe and still raise some questions (not that she owes me any answers though)! But at least she's going a bit more into detail now, I applaud that and she should have done that much earlier... I never heard her talk so detailed about her relationship to Gordon!

MJ Julian said:
latoya is so ugly. sorry guys !
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Well, I wouldn't totally contradict you, but that comment was totally unnecessary... especially as a MJ fan you should think before you comment on people's look!

Bee said:
As for LaToya being "ugly" I would like to see your picture, MJ Julian.
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Hmm, I've seen his pic and I wouldn't totally put him in the ugly category, but then again, beauty (or uglyness) lies in the eye of the beholder! ;)
 
Re: LaToya on Dutch tv, Wednesday May 14

Linda74 said:
My opinion is that she may have been a little jealous and "mad at" her family originally but she did not want to hurt them she just wanted to kind of break free and find her own identity and maybe get a breakthrough as an artist like Janet had. She thought Jack would help her with that but he started to take more and more control over her and started to hit her. I do beleive it was him who forced her to say those thing about Michael because she made several statments in 93 and originally she said she thought he was innocent.
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I agree.

I think everyone needs to leave home, and try to be independent, someday. But the later in life that happens the more painfull and difficult its gonna be. La Toya couldnt leave the familys home without some sort of support or guidance. Unfortunely Gordon was just no good. But if she hadnt meet him then she may still have been living in the encino house today...
 
La Toya is intelligent. If you've ever read her book, even though she wrote it under durass, the way she spoke about Michael in it showed that she had possibly the best understanding of who he is out of the entire family, and I thought that really showed how she herself is very smart.
 
While I believe Latoya is telling the truth, and I love Latoya very much, she has such a bubbly personality. However, Latoya has not yet faced up to her own demons. The demon that drove her to hook up with Gordon. She is not totally accepting of her own responsibility in this whole drama.
Latoya was a middle child who was largely ignored by her father in favopur of the brothers. Anybody else would feel resentment towards their parents. This showed itself in the film about the Jacksons, the American dream
Jealousy is a dangerous thing it can lead to all sorts of problems.
While I believe that she was manipilated by gordon, I do believe also that he did have something to work on. He worked on Latoya's jealousy and resentment of Michael and Joe and even her own mother.
Someone said that Latoya may have had some mental problem at the time. I am inclined to believe that.
 
Yeah Latoya is cool. But, I am also inclined to believe that La Toya had some other mental issues to tend to before Jack Gordon entered the picture.
 
Thanks for the video /
I am getting a better understanding of why LaToya turned against her family ///
 
neonmauve said:
Yeah Latoya is cool. But, I am also inclined to believe that La Toya had some other mental issues to tend to before Jack Gordon entered the picture.
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Yes, and she is still in denial. Until she is able to face the real issues inside of her, she will never be totally healed. Latoya was having issues before Gordon picked her up. All gordon did was feed off of her issues. he used it against her and her family. Jealousy and hate is a very dangerous thing. it eats you inside.
Latoya wants people to believe that she went to Japan and Gordon took her passport and told her she was never going back. Commonsense tells me that Jack could never have said that to a woman that was not willing to comply. She was a member of the most famous family in the world and the world would have known that something was wrong.
I believe that Latoya was a willing participant in the beginning. She felt left out of the attention that the brothers were getting, esp Michael. She wanted to have her revenge and Gordon was the right person for it. But Gordon wanted more than that. He was going to use her to blackmail her family and this is what he did. He used latoya to scandalise her family, Gordon asked for millions from the Jacksons but they did not comply. He was a scam artist and a damgerous man.
 
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Datsymay said:
However, Latoya has not yet faced up to her own demons. The demon that drove her to hook up with Gordon. She is not totally accepting of her own responsibility in this whole drama.
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Yes, I agree with that... that's one of the reason I don't totally forgive her... this interview was a step in the right direction, but still she doesn't totally take responsibility for what happened!

Datsymay said:
Latoya wants people top believe that she went to Japan and Gordon took her passport and told her she was never going back. Commonsense tells me that Jack could never have said that to a woman that was not willing to comply. She was a member of the most famous family in the world and the world would have known that something was wrong.
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Yes, that's one of the raised question I talked about!
 
Latoya was having issues before Gordon picked her up. All gordon did was feed off of her issues. he used it against her and her family. Jealousy and hate is a very dangerous thing. it eats you inside.
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Hmmm, you know what, you might be on to something here. All of the siblings did not do what LaToya did. She was shelted as a child and hung out with her mother all of the time. When she was of school age, he was harassed and beaten up by school kids because her brothers were the Jackson 5 and people were jealous of her. I believe, or maybe he stated this, that she was friends with people just because the Jackson 5 were her brothers. I cannot fully believed that she was controlled most of the time that she was with Jack Gordon. Yeah, she was totally abused and I do not think she saw that coming when she first met that monster. However, that whole Playboy mess back in the day - I think she wanted to do that. She was interviewed on E! True Hollywood Story (check youtube) and she talked about that time, I think she did or maybe that was another show. Anyway, she claimed that she was very shy and did not want to pose at first. However, she did three Playboy spreads. So....
 
From what I hear in the interview, she does take responsibility. She explains what happened, and also tells why she gave in in the first place. Because of her upbringing in a very protected environment, combined with the religion. She just didn't have the tools to withstand what was happening. I think at the time, it was an escape for her, only... she escaped to the devil's assistant. I've seen what happened to her happen from up close with someone. It's a scary process, step by step. You can't look at it from a logical point of view. It's very subtle at first, progresses step by step and then you are a prisoner of your own life. Some don't survive situations like this, it's very true. She did, and she's open about why she did certain things. I don't expect her to be honest 100%, but I think for a great deal she really is.
 
Hoofmark said:
From what I hear in the interview, she does take responsibility. She explains what happened, and also tells why she gave in in the first place. Because of her upbringing in a very protected environment, combined with the religion. She just didn't have the tools to withstand what was happening. I think at the time, it was an escape for her, only... she escaped to the devil's assistant. I've seen what happened to her happen from up close with someone. It's a scary process, step by step. You can't look at it from a logical point of view. It's very subtle at first, progresses step by step and then you are a prisoner of your own life. Some don't survive situations like this, it's very true. She did, and she's open about why she did certain things. I don't expect her to be honest 100%, but I think for a great deal she really is.
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I take your point. I did say that Latoya was being truthful. The trouble is that being truthful doesn't necessarily means being accurate. Latoya implied that she was being kidnapped, cause she said, he took her passport and told her she was never going back. I think it would sound more plausible if she said she was trying to escape from her parents and she ran into the arms of this conman. She never admitted that part of it. That is what I believe she did. I believe she sorted rescue with this man, but it turned out to be a disaster. It went badly wrong. That is what I mean't when I said that she needs to take some of the blame.
 
And listening to Latoya it doesn't seem that Michael is coming back any time soon.
 
Actually it doesn't. It's what you want to believe for whatever reason in your own head. You can keep moaning and whining but most fans are not listening.
 
Actually it doesn't. It's what you want to believe for whatever reason in your own head. You can keep moaning and whining but most fans are not listening.
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OMG Irish. Are you having a bad day to day. I just said a simple opinion from a what latoya said and suddenly i'm moaning and whining. For god sake get a grip. And you said it doesn't sound like that. And...?? Isn't that just your opinon? In your head? Why is your reflection on Latoyas inteview more real than mine?
 
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Are we going to turn this is another bickering chat?

And believe it or not, I agree with you Datsymay, ha ha ha
 
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