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I Finally Understand Lisa Marie

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I was thinking about Lisa's last blog and I can finally understand why she divorced Michael

she probably still loved him but it becomes a little unbearable when you have to experience all the craziness around him on a daily basis. Just look at us - fans - we follow his every move and devote our lives to him... isn't that almost like a second job???

I understand that loving someone is a good thing, but too much of anything is bad...including too much love...

I, for one, feel a tad liberated because I can finally stop obsessing over where Michael is and what he will do tomorrow....

don't get me wrong, I wish he was still here...but I also feel that I can finally start living my own life


he was simply to good.... so good that I couldnt spend a second not thinking about him. was that good for me? no...but I liked it

i think thats how lisa felt too
 
I think she loved Michael but couldn't take the circus any more. She's a good person en tried to help Michael.
 
to me she represents all of us - we are just like her except we still try to hold on instead of letting go
it really makes it easier if you put yourself in LMP's shoes
 
I agree. I don't know why so many fans are angry with her. I think she was one of the few people in Michael's life who genuinely loved him, probably still does in a way (just read her blog, you will feel that)! And definitely the woman who loved him the most of all of Michael's women. I think the rest of Michael's "romances" (Tatum, Brooke etc.) probably don't even qualify as real romances. With Lisa it was real, I am convinced.

I can hear you: then why did she leave him? Unfortunately neither people are or life is perfect and sometimes love is not enough. I think if you read her blog, it's very clear now why she left. And it was never that she didn't love him. Even after the divorce they were kind of dating for years! Until about 1998-99. Only they know what happened after that but apparently Lisa got very angry with Michael, hence the angry interviews about him. But I cannot hate Lisa for that. To me it was always obvious that you don't get that angry about your ex if there aren't strong emotions involved on your part. Trust me, she was that angry because she loved him so much. To me it was rather kind of funny how desperately she was trying to distance herself from him, because you could see it was just posturing on her part. She was trying to convince even herself, LOL, but she could never totally hide her feelings.

Michael was definitely not an easy person to be married to, I can understand how things could turn out to be frustrating for Lisa. Probably it weren't just the two of them in that marriage either. I mean Michael's managers, advisors, PR people, enablers and the "leeches and vampires" as she put it in her blog. I can see why it was incredibly difficult for her.

Could she have stayed longer, tried harder? Maybe, but maybe she tried everything, we don't know that. By every account I hear Michael could be incredibly stubborn and had a habit of driving away people who were trying to help him. Deepak Chopra confirmed that, Tito confirmed that too.

And let's not forget: unlike some fairweather friends, Lisa was there for Michael during one of his darkest periods, when many people wouldn't even have touched him. And Lisa married him! So, alone for that, I have respect for this woman.

I always think it's a pity it didn't work. They were a nice couple with genuine love between them.
 
respect77 said:
I agree. I don't know why so many fans are angry with her. I think she was one of the few people in Michael's life who genuinely loved him, probably still does in a way (just read her blog, you will feel that)! And definitely the woman who loved him the most of all of Michael's women. I think the rest of Michael's "romances" (Tatum, Brooke etc.) probably don't even qualify as real romances. With Lisa it was real, I am convinced.

I can hear you: then why did she leave him? Unfortunately neither people are or life is perfect and sometimes love is not enough. I think if you read her blog, it's very clear now why she left. And it was never that she didn't love him. Even after the divorce they were kind of dating for years! Until about 1998-99. Only they know what happened after that but apparently Lisa got very angry with Michael, hence the angry interviews about him. But I cannot hate Lisa for that. To me it was always obvious that you don't get that angry about your ex if there aren't strong emotions involved on your part. Trust me, she was that angry because she loved him so much. To me it was rather kind of funny how desperately she was trying to distance herself from him, because you could see it was just posturing on her part. She was trying to convince even herself, LOL, but she could never totally hide her feelings.

Michael was definitely not an easy person to be married to, I can understand how things could turn out to be frustrating for Lisa. Probably it weren't just the two of them in that marriage either. I mean Michael's managers, advisors, PR people, enablers and the "leeches and vampires" as she put it in her blog. I can see why it was incredibly difficult for her.

Could she have stayed longer, tried harder? Maybe, but maybe she tried everything, we don't know that. By every account I hear Michael could be incredibly stubborn and had a habit of driving away people who were trying to help him. Deepak Chopra confirmed that, Tito confirmed that too.

And let's not forget: unlike some fairweather friends, Lisa was there for Michael during one of his darkest periods, when many people wouldn't even have touched him. And Lisa married him! So, alone for that, I have respect for this woman.

I always think it's a pity it didn't work. They were a nice couple with genuine love between them.
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great post and i totally agree
 
Strawberry said:
I was thinking about Lisa's last blog and I can finally understand why she divorced Michael

she probably still loved him but it becomes a little unbearable when you have to experience all the craziness around him on a daily basis. Just look at us - fans - we follow his every move and devote our lives to him... isn't that almost like a second job???

I understand that loving someone is a good thing, but too much of anything is bad...including too much love...

I, for one, feel a tad liberated because I can finally stop obsessing over where Michael is and what he will do tomorrow....

don't get me wrong, I wish he was still here...but I also feel that I can finally start living my own life


he was simply to good.... so good that I couldnt spend a second not thinking about him. was that good for me? no...but I liked it

i think thats how lisa felt too
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I understand Lisa better myself...it's just that the horrid comments she made about him after that I just didn't care for at all.
 
I have no issues with Micahel and Lisa. I like seeing them together, always makes me smile, even up to this date and even when Lisa would be hateful on her interviews regarding Mike.

When I read her blog right after the tragic day, it made me cry harder, the one thing that made me smile was the fact the she would always repeat it countlessly the fact their relationship was no 'sham'.

If people would still question that it just shows how ignorant this world is!

respect77's post says it all :)
 
BTW, don't you thing guys that "Break of Dawn" was written about Lisa? I can't think of anybody else with whom Michael had such a relationship, LOL.
 
Break of Dawn? Yes, could be about Lisa...
If it is... Cause I don't think it was released by the time of the marriage ending... do you think that Michael still loved he until now. I mean really in love, intense love.
I Just hope Michael knew she loved him the way she says.
 
I think what they shared was real. I'm sorry the two of them couldn't have been stronger for each other. But everything happens for a reason.

I just hope Lisa doesn't torment herself with old memories as I pretty much know Michael probably did.
 
I never managed to not like Lisa Marie.. even though she have said some rude things.. And I guess it's because you can see that what they had was real.
 
Ive never been angry with her. I always loved Lisa and she still has a very special place in my heart. I think if some of you remember my threads I always defended her...
 
I know in one of her interviews with Oprah, her and Priscilla stated that they felt like Michael had used her... and that Priscilla was very "concerned" about their marriage. Not so sure how I feel about that.
 
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respect77 said:
BTW, don't you thing guys that "Break of Dawn" was written about Lisa? I can't think of anybody else with whom Michael had such a relationship, LOL.
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Possibly, but i read something in Moonwalk that kind of rebutted against my thoughts about his song writing. I always though that he wrote a majority of his songs based on personal experience, but then he said that he was surprised by this kind of thought and that an amount of his music wasn't based on personal experience at all and was just written out of somewhere in his heart. He did state that he wrote some of his songs based on experience but not all of them.
Just wanted to add that little detail, but who knows really
 
TheOriginalPYT said:
I know in one of her interviews with Oprah, her and Priscilla stated that they felt like Michael had used her... and that Priscilla was very "concerned" about their marriage. Not so sure how I feel about that.
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yes i remember that and i dont get it.

How can she go from "oh he used me" to "our marriage was not a sham"

Personally i just think she should have kept her feelings bout michael to herself. It should be NOBODY"S BUSINESS what went down between her & michael, should have been only BETWEEN HER & MIKE!!!

I mean we didnt see mike spilling all things bout lisa and their marrige to the public..did we? and i like the fact that he did that. I thought it was a very respectful thing to have done.
 
TheOriginalPYT said:
I know in one of her interviews with Oprah, her and Priscilla stated that they felt like Michael had used her... and that Priscilla was very "concerned" about their marriage. Not so sure how I feel about that.
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Not that Lisa cared too much about her mother's opinion at the time. LOL!

Diane Sawyer: What did your mother say?

Lisa Marie Presley: She called me and said, you know, "Oh Lisa, there's helicopters outside the house and they're saying you married Michael Jackson", and I go ... I was just quiet and she goes, "You didn't?" She goes, "You didn't?" And I go, "Yeah, I did" and then it was just, you know, that was that was game on for me. Whoo! Mum doesn't like it, let's go!
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LOL!
 
8701girl said:
yes i remember that and i dont get it.

How can she go from "oh he used me" to "our marriage was not a sham"

Personally i just think she should have kept her feelings bout michael to herself. It should be NOBODY"S BUSINESS what went down between her & michael, should have been only BETWEEN HER & MIKE!!!

I mean we didnt see mike spilling all things bout lisa and their marrige to the public..did we? and i like the fact that he did that. I thought it was a very respectful thing to have done.
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I agree with that. But I think in the hindsight Lisa regrets many things she said publically. I guess, she was just kind of confused at the time. But you are right, even if she felt that way, it was not something she should have discussed in interviews. Like you said, I respect Michael very much for the fact he never talked about their marriage in public after they divorced.
Lisa made a mistake talking about it, but oh well, we are all human and make mistakes.
 
D.S said:
Possibly, but i read something in Moonwalk that kind of rebutted against my thoughts about his song writing. I always though that he wrote a majority of his songs based on personal experience, but then he said that he was surprised by this kind of thought and that an amount of his music wasn't based on personal experience at all and was just written out of somewhere in his heart. He did state that he wrote some of his songs based on experience but not all of them.
Just wanted to add that little detail, but who knows really
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True, but that was said in Moonwalk. In the 80s most of his songs really did not come from a personal experience. However that changed in the 90s and his lyrics became more and more personal.
 
respect77 said:
I agree with that. But I think in the hindsight Lisa regrets many things she said publically. I guess, she was just kind of confused at the time. But you are right, even if she felt that way, it was not something she should have discussed in interviews. Like you said, I respect Michael very much for the fact he never talked about their marriage in public after they divorced.
Lisa made a mistake talking about it, but oh well, we are all human and make mistakes.
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i just wished lisa would have said sorry in her interviews. I mean how hurt michael must of felt , hearing her say all those things bout him! I mean she could at least say that she didnt mean to sound like a B***ch and that she was just confused. But no she had to be a B**ch bout it and that is what im angry at her for. Sorry guys that i just is the way i feel bout it.
 
8701girl said:
i just wished lisa would have said sorry in her interviews. I mean how hurt michael must of felt , hearing her say all those things bout him! I mean she could at least say that she didnt mean to sound like a B***ch and that she was just confused. But no she had to be a B**ch bout it and that is what im angry at her for. Sorry guys that i just is the way i feel bout it.
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I wonder what will she say now if asked again? I don't know if she will choose to say nothing or to say positive things, but I think she won't say any negative. I know, maybe too late, but maybe not.
 
respect77 said:
I wonder what will she say now if asked again? I don't know if she will choose to say nothing or to say positive things, but I think she won't say any negative. I know, maybe too late, but maybe not.
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I dont know what she would say persay ,but i reckon she would try to make lil excuses for the things she said.
 
8701girl said:
i just wished lisa would have said sorry in her interviews. I mean how hurt michael must of felt , hearing her say all those things bout him! I mean she could at least say that she didnt mean to sound like a B***ch and that she was just confused. But no she had to be a B**ch bout it and that is what im angry at her for. Sorry guys that i just is the way i feel bout it.
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But she was hurt, Lisa Marie has never been one for lying - she'll always say exactly what is on her mind, even since a child. Michael left her several times, she was hurt, he never lived up to his side of the marriage. I think she had a right to say some of those things.
 
AAA said:
But she was hurt, Lisa Marie has never been one for lying - she'll always say exactly what is on her mind, even since a child. Michael left her several times, she was hurt, he never lived up to his side of the marriage. I think she had a right to say some of those things.
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I agree. I like Michael and all that, but he was a big kid and he hasn't learnt how to handle an adult relationship with a woman, how to compromise, how to see the other's point IMO. He was isolated all his life, how could he learn that? Probably that's what lead to the conflicts between them. As far as I have heard, when Lisa confronted him with something he would just disappear for weeks without notice - just like a kid would do. But that was towards the end - I think they had one good year when everything was great between them.
 
I agree, she gave Michael a taste of a real relationship. He did seem VERY happy with her. God bless her for that.
 
I don't think their relationship was phoney.
I think it was genuine. I actually think it was one of the only genuine relationships that Michael had with anybody. It was a shame about the timing though.
 
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