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MJ's Team Shutting out & Blockin the Family?

qbee said:
Hi Moddie
I replied in your quote in RED it makes it easier to address
each issue.
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Qbees,

So far, you are the one who makes the more sense.
So far, we only have speculations and not proof. Why not wait for the toxicology reports and the end of the investigation before we start jumping to conclusions?
Thanks
 
lisedea said:
Qbees,

So far, you are the one who makes the more sense.
So far, we only have speculations and not proof. Why not wait for the toxicology reports and the end of the investigation before we start jumping to conclusions?
Thanks
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Hi lisedea,

Please allow me to remind you of the section you have made your way to:

It's called as you should know: MJJ Investigative unit. It reads:

In this forum we Question Michael's DEATH. the latest NEWS and STORIES surrounding his death and the CONSPIRACY theories- contains HEAVY SPECULATION so please if you aren't able to RESPECT the atmospere of this section DO NOT ENTER.

The caps are no way meant as a "scream" or "yell". I don't know how to highlight, anyone can help by pming me, lol.

It is perfectly ok, not to agree as others have not but, please add some dialogue about the subject of this thread if you have any to share.

Thank You.
 
This is such a long thread. I have only read the like the first 20 replies.. it's making me sad. :( Poor MJ. :( Thank you all for sharing this disturbing information. God, I hope Justice is served. Whether its served here on earth or when they die... Justice WILL be served. That's how I will cope with this. :(

If I was suppose to add any dialog.. . sorry about that.
 
I believe this.
my friend from UK who's met michael many,many times, followed him around the world (tours) ++
she was outside his house for many days trying to see or meet him some months ago.
one of the days she was here katherine jackson tried to get to michael. she was outside the gate but the sequrity told her she couldn't get in. That he was busy. katherine was FURIOUS and eventually they let her in. she was SO mad my friend said and so emberassed! especially since there were fans outside watching this happen..

I do believe they were kinda blocked out, yes.
 
stineLOVESmichael said:
I believe this.
my friend from UK who's met michael many,many times, followed him around the world (tours) ++
she was outside his house for many days trying to see or meet him some months ago.
one of the days she was here katherine jackson tried to get to michael. she was outside the gate but the sequrity told her she couldn't get in. That he was busy. katherine was FURIOUS and eventually they let her in. she was SO mad my friend said and so emberassed! especially since there were fans outside watching this happen..

I do believe they were kinda blocked out, yes.
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Wow, his enablers killed him.
 
Darvon1982 said:
This is such a long thread. I have only read the like the first 20 replies.. it's making me sad. :( Poor MJ. :( Thank you all for sharing this disturbing information. God, I hope Justice is served. Whether its served here on earth or when they die... Justice WILL be served. That's how I will cope with this. :(

If I was suppose to add any dialog.. . sorry about that.
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No need to apologize Darvon, you did fine. You didn't unsult anyone for doing in this thread exactly what the rules state we can do. Hence why I felt the need to address that in my post before this one.

I too hope justice is served for our Michael.
 
stineLOVESmichael said:
I believe this.
my friend from UK who's met michael many,many times, followed him around the world (tours) ++
she was outside his house for many days trying to see or meet him some months ago.
one of the days she was here katherine jackson tried to get to michael. she was outside the gate but the sequrity told her she couldn't get in. That he was busy. katherine was FURIOUS and eventually they let her in. she was SO mad my friend said and so emberassed! especially since there were fans outside watching this happen..

I do believe they were kinda blocked out, yes.
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Unfortunately, since Michael's death I believe we're gonna get alot of these type of stories to surface. If you browse any MJ forum, you'd see what I'm talking about, fans are sharing their own stories of what they have seen or heard from other fans who have followed Michael around or who've had conversations with or observed activity from a member of his inner circle that may have been questionable or bothersome.

If this same death with the same set of circumstances happened to stars like, Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise or Madonna, the media would be in an uproar to find their "Killer". The Media would report of it with great dignity and respect as if these people were Mother Theresa or the Pope. All coverage would be postive and no stone would be unturned, they would cover every lead, especially if that lead made the other stars out to look like the victim.
They would have jumped all over reports of "Blocking" from the celeb's team. With one of these celeb's dying this death, You better believe, their sources would've been all over this angle.
 
i wouldn't be embarassed by those reports though. i think it shows that if someone is being kept away, it's to hide something. a potential intervention, someone there w/ a clear frame of mind can see what was going on. if he was being screwed over so it makes sense to keep peoople like that out.

mj even said, his mother was there when some dude working w/ randy threatened him. she knew the dude was corrupt. yet what if he was on something and his mother wasn't there. would he have come to the same assumption about the man's honesty?
 
stineLOVESmichael said:
I believe this.
my friend from UK who's met michael many,many times, followed him around the world (tours) ++
she was outside his house for many days trying to see or meet him some months ago.
one of the days she was here katherine jackson tried to get to michael. she was outside the gate but the sequrity told her she couldn't get in. That he was busy. katherine was FURIOUS and eventually they let her in. she was SO mad my friend said and so emberassed! especially since there were fans outside watching this happen..

I do believe they were kinda blocked out, yes.
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Thank you for sharing this information with us!
This was one of the mosty scary things I have read so far on Michael. If his own mom could not get through him, imagine all of us his fans..we would have no chance to get through him either and try to save him... I feel so sad over all of this. It's incredibly sad on how MJ himself managed his life, and how people made decisions for him. NOBODY could help him! NOBODY WANTED to help him. He could not help himself either. It's so complicated and I have hope that insiders and a few people who had acess to him and his home will clarify if Michael himself were giving orders to block people as his brother Tito revealed on an interview recently. WHY all of that was so necessary to him???How SCARY this was to all of us his fans and family!!
That's why LaToya's theory on murder makes sense!

Blessings and love to all of his fans and family out there!:angel::better:
 
vncwilliam said:
man..i knew i would see stuff like this.
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Yeah, because the only way to successfully pull off what they did to our Michael was to isolate him from anyone and everyone who could or wanted to help, Then Block those who tried to get close.

He was made to be very vunerable on purpose by those who gained the most.
 
Moddie777 said:
Unfortunately, since Michael's death I believe we're gonna get alot of these type of stories to surface. If you browse any MJ forum, you'd see what I'm talking about, fans are sharing their own stories of what they have seen or heard from other fans who have followed Michael around or who've had conversations with or observed activity from a member of his inner circle that may have been questionable or bothersome.

If this same death with the same set of circumstances happened to stars like, Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise or Madonna, the media would be in an uproar to find their "Killer". The Media would report of it with great dignity and respect as if these people were Mother Theresa or the Pope. All coverage would be postive and no stone would be unturned, they would cover every lead, especially if that lead made the other stars out to look like the victim.
They would have jumped all over reports of "Blocking" from the celeb's team. With one of these celeb's dying this death, You better believe, their sources would've been all over this angle.
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So in another words you think that Michael's death isn't taking the ammount of dignity and respect by the media coverage it deserves? I thought of that but I still believe that it's because the toxicology resports aren't out yet and they don't want to make assumptions...don't you think that it isn't just because of that? in your perspective, the media is "happy" with his passing?:(
 
Soso Deaf said:
i wouldn't be embarassed by those reports though. i think it shows that if someone is being kept away, it's to hide something. a potential intervention, someone there w/ a clear frame of mind can see what was going on. if he was being screwed over so it makes sense to keep peoople like that out.

mj even said, his mother was there when some dude working w/ randy threatened him. she knew the dude was corrupt. yet what if he was on something and his mother wasn't there. would he have come to the same assumption about the man's honesty?
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I wish I could understand your post above but I didn't it. Could you clarify it a little bit more? I'm a foreigner and my first language isn't english. Thank you!
 
Victoria said:
So in another words you think that Michael's death isn't taking the ammount of dignity and respect by the media coverage it deserves? I thought of that but I still believe that it's because the toxicology resports aren't out yet and they don't want to make assumptions...don't you think that it isn't just because of that? in your perspective, the media is "happy" with his passing?:(
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Only when it comes to the coverage of him and the drugs, are the Media over hyping the whole "Michael Jackson is a bonified Drug Addict", they have totally dismissed Latoya's and Leonard Rowe's claims of blocking, control, manipulation and the act of ''forcing" these powerful drugs on MJ. That has not even been in possibility in any of the coverage we have seen. They are sensationalizing his death with tabloid crap instead of investigative and unbiased reporting.
No, I don't think the media are happy with Michael's death, they just are not following the leads and aren't reporting responsibly.
 
I totally agree. They are indeed sensationalizing his death with tabloid garbage instead of focusing on what's important on the road of the criminal investigation of his death and real fact reports.
 
Moddie777 said:
Only when it comes to the coverage of him and the drugs, are the Media over hyping the whole "Michael Jackson is a bonified Drug Addict", they have totally dismissed Latoya's and Leonard Rowe's claims of blocking, control, manipulation and the act of ''forcing" these powerful drugs on MJ. That has not even been in possibility in any of the coverage we have seen. They are sensationalizing his death with tabloid crap instead of investigative and unbiased reporting.
No, I don't think the media are happy with Michael's death, they just are not following the leads and aren't reporting responsibly.
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I agree with you. It's like they are manipulating the masses into thinking MJ is at fault for everything instead of showing him as the victim. :(
 
victoria, if im not feeling well and im sick, someone comes over to my house and say, takes some of my stuff or lies to get me to sign something. im not at my full capacity so i'm likely to be taken advantage of

if my mother or husband were there w/ me while i was sick, the person who stole from me or tried to trick me would have to wait until my family left to do what they wanted.

im sayingthey kept his family away so they could use him and get him to do what they wanted.
 
Soso Deaf said:
victoria, if im not feeling well and im sick, someone comes over to my house and say, takes some of my stuff or lies to get me to sign something. im not at my full capacity so i'm likely to be taken advantage of

if my mother or husband were there w/ me while i was sick, the person who stole from me or tried to trick me would have to wait until my family left to do what they wanted.

im sayingthey kept his family away so they could use him and get him to do what they wanted.
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Thank you for clarifying Soso! I got the Idea now.
You meant he was intentionally murdered. As I share a similar opinion with other board members. The means of his death and the fact that he was isolated at home are highly suspicious and can certainly lead to that conclusion easily. His death might have been intentional murder but certainly the people who injected him with propofol will deny this fact, and say the opposite, if indeed was a fact that toxicology will show. The second possibility would be of him being accidentally murdered by an extra dose of propofol, what would be cynical because we all know that any doctor in the world can use propofol rather a doctor anesthesiologist, and Dr Murray, was just a cardiologist (as if he really is one) and that can only being used in a very equipped hospital room. We can certainly say that Dr Murray was totally abusive, imcompetent person, irresponsible, greedy, and why not say, he was totally criminal and I hope he and Dr Klein will be brought to justice.
:angel:
 
Michael has always been vulnerable and because of this I always worried about him but I never thought he'd end up like this
I used to think if god forbid he ever dies it will be a car accident or something similar, something that just happens and you cannot predict. I never thought he'd die at someone else's hand this is the worst thing that could've happened...I always worried about him being alone and now look what happened
 
Moddie777 said:
Yeah, because the only way to successfully pull off what they did to our Michael was to isolate him from anyone and everyone who could or wanted to help, Then Block those who tried to get close.

He was made to be very vunerable on purpose by those who gained the most.
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i am not saying that MJ made bad decisions. at all. i'm not saying that, because i don't believe that. at all. what i am saying is i knew i'd see stuff like that site, web md, slamming Michael. they are supposed to be professional, but they don't know shit. 'just another fallen celebrity with a medicine cabinet full of drugs'...i knew i'd see shit like that written. i've gone to that site for advice, and they don't know shit.

i'm saying that i knew i'd see the results of a conspiracy, where people who said for years that MJ is financially stupid, would be out to get the empire of a supposedly financially stupid person(but, MJ was then, and is, in fact, is eternally, without ceasing, THE financial wizard). i'm saying that people who rob Peter to pay Paul, and who are, themselves, financially stupid, and without patience, are wanting an empire that they know has never ceased from standing, while they are mired in debt and handouts, and the balls to give financial advice to Michael, when they don't know shit about finance. and if they thought of him as a child molester, and thought they were doing God a favor, then i'll just witness them being set on fire on Judgement day, for playing God, and being wrong. that's what i'm saying. i'm saying that they knew that the magic of Michael never ceases, tho they said it ceased after 'Bad'. and they want a big piece, while lying. i'm saying i'm looking forward to watching them being set on fire on Judgement Day for all of the things i mentioned in this post, as well as the playing God thing. the chase for money. the lying. THE BIG TIME ENVY AND NON CEASING UNWARRANTED BITTER HATE TOWARDS HIM. the depriving children of a protector, because of their hatred of children. the slander. all the attempts on his life. everything.
 
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A lot of the people around stars are power trippers. They use their positons to get what they want and manipulate situations to achieve their goals.
 
If we had good old journalists who actually sought fact and pieced together a lot of this would be sorted.


I guess with AEG these things take years to arrange/manipulate, the thing is we watch a lot of flims and read books about stuff we think 'nah that never happens in life' and guess what we find out it does.......
 
Soso Deaf said:
victoria, if im not feeling well and im sick, someone comes over to my house and say, takes some of my stuff or lies to get me to sign something. im not at my full capacity so i'm likely to be taken advantage of

if my mother or husband were there w/ me while i was sick, the person who stole from me or tried to trick me would have to wait until my family left to do what they wanted.

im sayingthey kept his family away so they could use him and get him to do what they wanted.
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Bingo! This is exactly how it's appearing things went down with the family's access to him during the most critical of times.
 
snowhite said:
Michael has always been vulnerable and because of this I always worried about him but I never thought he'd end up like this
I used to think if god forbid he ever dies it will be a car accident or something similar, something that just happens and you cannot predict. I never thought he'd die at someone else's hand this is the worst thing that could've happened...I always worried about him being alone and now look what happened
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Yep! He was a very vunerable and Gentle soul and the crooks and thieves around him knew that of him. They knew how to manipulate and control him. They knew what his weakness would be and used that to bring him down.
They could not do this successfully without isolating him from anyone who could help.
 
I totally agree with you there StephluvsMJ. I don't think Mike was still hooked on them. He didn't look like he was doped up in his last pictures, he was alert and full of life.
 
geekgirl101 said:
I totally agree with you there StephluvsMJ. I don't think Mike was still hooked on them. He didn't look like he was doped up in his last pictures, he was alert and full of life.
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Hi geekgirl101, I like your name, lol.

If you are referring to the last rehearsal footage, here's my take on that. I agree with you he didn't looked doped up, he appeared alert and full of life as you described. It benefited his handlers for him to look vibrant, alert and capable on that last rehearsal footage. They needed that tape to be BANKABLE/MARKETABLE. Of all the rehearsal's they would make it their business to tape Michael Jackson's very last one. Hmmmmmmmmmm?

Do you see where that's leading too?
 
i do c. and if the man behind it all had to pay someone to make sure his star was eating, u have to know that it won't be ok or he won't be ok for too long....it was bound to happen. i don't think aeg is suprise dby this at all
 
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