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The Chef, Kai Chase's about the day Michael Died (Merged) (All discussion here, please)

Re: Dr Murray screamed: Go get Prince! (chef)

When the hell is the toxic report coming out?
 
Re: Dr Murray screamed: Go get Prince! (chef)

As much as I wish that child had not seen his daddy die, IF he did, he could provide very valuable evidence that might convict that S.O.B
 
Pm, am which is it? Reading that account, true or false certainly brought me back to that moment as if I was in the house that day too. Its like I could feel the emotions of the occupants. That Kai is a good writer
 
Why on earth did these people not question what was going on, bloody oxygen tanks? I mean one minute he is in to healthy eating, the next he is getting filled with toxic chemicals, and possibly stuffing his face with demoral. Anyone who cared about him would have done something, wouldn't we have been alarmed at what was going on and raised the alarm?

My only question is did Michael die because of the propofol, or did he die because when he got into trouble Murrey was too busy covering his own backside to save Michael. Makes you wonder if this was the first time he had a reaction, or if it had happened before and Murrey managed to deal with it.
 
I hope this is not true. I hope, from the bottom of my heart that Prince didn't have to witness this at all. IF he had to witness this and if this is true it shows one more time how selfish and ignorant this a*s Dr Murray is. It was all about himself and getting his a*s out of that situation he braught himself into. I am getting really angry thinking about that.
 
Moth2aFlame said:
Like Joe stated "MICHAEL HAD BEEN DEAD". They Murdered Michael as soon as he got home that Morning but they are so Dr. Jekyll Mr. Hyde they keep in a state between Life and Death for Hours. Playing Dr. Frankstein while they brought in all their other Equipment and various Killer Drugs they had gotten in his many fake names they made up, damn Devils even used Prince name. They overKILLED Michael and OverThought their Murder Plan. I guess they didnt put in a scenerio for the DEA not buying it.
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How do you know what happened that night, why are you so sure of your version? Just trying to understand...:agree:

mera said:
I noticed the milky stains on his jackets also when I saw the images recently.
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What stains? And either way, they could be from anything really. Doesn't prove anything.

hilliver said:
My only question is did Michael die because of the propofol, or did he die because when he got into trouble Murrey was too busy covering his own backside to save Michael. Makes you wonder if this was the first time he had a reaction, or if it had happened before and Murray managed to deal with it.
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I hope to God this didn't happen before, I don't want to think of Mike going through this and in any case IF it had happened before, you don't just get up and about after something like this... that's what makes me think it didn't.

I do believe Murray tried to save him but when he was unsuccessful he started thinking about what will happen and that he'll for sure be the main suspect so he tried to take precautions - as in send ppl to clear his office, get ' witnesses' and stuff.:(
 
what I posted in another thread. All quotes from the AP article.

Chase said Tuesday that she had gotten used to seeing Murray coming and going from the mansion. The doctor usually arrived about 9 or 9:30 p.m. and would go upstairs to Jackson's room, and she said she would not see him again before she left — sometimes late in the evening — but understood he was staying the night.
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Ok this blow the "I didn't know the address" lie out the water. :smilerolleyes: But we knew that already.

"I started preparing the lunch and then I looked at my cell phone and it was noon. About 12:05 or 12:10 Dr. Murray runs down the steps and screams, 'Go get Prince!' He's screaming very loud. I run into the den where the kids are playing. Prince (Jackson's oldest son) runs to meet Dr. Murray and from that point on you could feel the energy in the house change.
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Ok I thought he was running around the house for help. I guess not! He clearly went to the security first (hmm I wonder if it was the same sercuity guard who introduced michael to murry:smilerolleyes:). Now wouldn't the security be outside you'd think. Now wouldn't it take longer for someone to go outside for help then to just run downstair and tell someone to call 911. Idk, maybe the guards were in the house.:scratch:



On most days, she said, Murray would bring Jackson the special fruit juice drinks Chase prepared for him, followed by granola with almond milk.
Um why mike can't get his own food?
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I really don't like the thought of murry over mikes food!


For lunch, Jackson would eat with the children from a menu that included such things as spinach salad and chicken.
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Ok so which is it. michael did eat or didn't. why is everything so confusing.



Murray sometimes joined them for dinner, which might be a seared ahi tuna. She said the doctor conferred with her about the 50-year-old pop singer's food and made sure that he ate
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Ok so that two meals a day for michael (and three assuming he ate the breakfast too). How did he lose so much weight (according to fans). And how did murry NOT notice this. Also how come michael was feeling not so good yet murry did jack for him, and had michael calling a nurse in florida??


she saw no sign that Jackson was on drugs or was in failing health.
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Ok so somebody is straight up lying. Fans say he was skeleton skinny and worried yet she wasn't. Everybody and their mommas saying he was on SOMETHING yet she noticed nothing??? Could she have not noticed??

On June 23, she said Jackson told her: "I'm packed and I'm ready to go." Two days later, he was dead.
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Most days, she said, Jackson made a point of having both lunch and dinner with the children,
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And I ask yet again. The man WAS eating so why did aeg feel the need to hire someone to feed him. Was it really that bad??
 
Kai seems like a great woman. I'm glad she is still seeing the children. I hope she will continue to cook for the Jackson family as she mentioned on the Today show.
 
Mikejoefan said:
what I posted in another thread. All quotes from the AP article.


Ok this blow the "I didn't know the address" lie out the water. :smilerolleyes: But we knew that already.


Ok I thought he was running around the house for help. I guess not! He clearly went to the security first (hmm I wonder if it was the same sercuity guard who introduced michael to murry:smilerolleyes:). Now wouldn't the security be outside you'd think. Now wouldn't it take longer for someone to go outside for help then to just run downstair and tell someone to call 911. Idk, maybe the guards were in the house.:scratch:




I really don't like the thought of murry over mikes food!



Ok so which is it. michael did eat or didn't. why is everything so confusing.




Ok so that two meals a day for michael (and three assuming he ate the breakfast too). How did he lose so much weight (according to fans). And how did murry NOT notice this. Also how come michael was feeling not so good yet murry did jack for him, and had michael calling a nurse in florida??



Ok so somebody is straight up lying. Fans say he was skeleton skinny and worried yet she wasn't. Everybody and their mommas saying he was on SOMETHING yet she noticed nothing??? Could she have not noticed??


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And I ask yet again. The man WAS eating so why did aeg feel the need to hire someone to feed him. Was it really that bad??
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You speak so much sense Mikejoefan(btw their original post inc quotes from another post just in case you read this and think 'that don't make sense')

So he drove there everyday - so he definitely knew the address(which we know anyway)

Also something else I picked up from her story was that he hadn't been down in the morning for Michael's food - why?! because it was already going wrong then wasn't it HOURS before the 911 call was finally made.

Its a set up, the doctor is a fall guy. 'In my opinion' he didn't panic - why would he? He is a trained cardiologist. No I think he was killed on purpose :(

We may never know the truth I know. I wonder with the money Michael owed people if he'd ever have had peace alive as he is worth more to all those people now dead :( He was only worth more alive to some family members, good friends and us the fans. I know Michael was very intelligent(check his Oxford speech) but... this Tohme guy... he was the one pushing for the auction to go ahead, Michael stopped it obviously never wanted that to happen... was it the same for the amount of 02 gigs?!

I've just walked my dogs and was thinking it through in my head away from the computer and my current conclusion is:My eye is on Dr Tohme Tohme and Jermaine and their links to Colony Capital who own Neverland who in turn are also friends with the owner of AEG. Especially as Jermaine is the one pushing the Neverland burial(in which case Neverland would 'profit' more if opened to the public) and his current wife is the ex of Tohme... This article talks of the link between Colony and AEG http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-michael-jackson31-2009may31,0,1441957.story?page=1 I feel Sony is involved somewhere... as they had that $60m ready so quick to pay for rehearsal footage and now they will benefit highly from his death in music sales. I just want to know of Sony may be connected to the rest mentioned above... Oh I wish this didn't exist to talk about and Michael was still here :(

As I said many times, we may never know the truth but... knowledge is power and so if we work out anymore bits to this that don't add up. I believe we should discuss it.
 
wow what she said on the today's show is amazing. that house seemed absolutely magical.

Paris was nick named yab yab?!?! anyone ever hear the before?!?!
 
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MikeJoe, you made some good points.. My thing is, these ppl hugged MJ almost everyday and no one noticed that he was becoming really thin. Then his chef turns around and says he ate heart healthy meals... I am chosing to believe his cook, because she had no money invested in MJ unlike AEG.. Ms. Chase was being paid to cook healthy meals for him and his family and her job was to make sure MJ ate the right kinds of food especially for someone that would be burning off the calories daily.. AEG invested money in MJ so they just needed a body to be present on stage, they could've given a rat's ass whether or not MJ was in tip top shape. If they cared, they would've just done the original 10 shows then possibly ASK MJ if he felt like doing another 10 and so on and so on.
 
myfavouritewintercoat said:
I've just walked my dogs and was thinking it through in my head away from the computer and my current conclusion is:My eye is on Dr Tohme Tohme and Jermaine and their links to Colony Capital who own Neverland who in turn are also friends with the owner of AEG. Especially as Jermaine is the one pushing the Neverland burial(in which case Neverland would 'profit' more if opened to the public) and his current wife is the ex of Tohme... This article talks of the link between Colony and AEG http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-michael-jackson31-2009may31,0,1441957.story?page=1 I feel Sony is involved somewhere... as they had that $60m ready so quick to pay for rehearsal footage and now they will benefit highly from his death in music sales.
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I didn't know that Jermaine was married to Thome's wife:bugeyed. That's weird. Was he the one that got Michael in touch with him?
 
Re: Dr Murray screamed: Go get Prince! (chef)

meena76_4MJJ_4Ever said:
Why? Because Michael was already gone and had been gone for hours. He was trying to cover his ass. My God why? Who would kill Michael Jackson.? I am disgusted. To call Prince up there what he thinks he is so naive he just go for anything. Some people are like this. I have been a situation where my stepfather did wrong and used me to cover for him. He wanted me to see one thing but really the truth was something totally different and you know what I feel for it. So do I believe this f****r would do something like this. You damn straight. Some people are so conniving. I pray Prince will recover from this. This is the most awful thing for a child to have to witness.

Murray will not get away with this; he will pay one way or the other.
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If that is true -- if Murray called Prince upstairs to see him working on his already dead father -- that constitutes child-abuse. The emotional trauma would be terrible. Add that to the list of atrocities. . . . . .
 
Re: Michaels chef on Access Hollywood

SupraFreshKid said:
someone on CNN said you should not put too much credence into the chefs statement because apparently she has a book coming out entitled dinner or food(?) fit for a king. So like all the others who come out woodwork it may be a PR stunt.

--she will also appear on Larry King
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At this point - someone evil in high places is going to try to discredit ANYONE telling the truth. CNN is media and we're at the mercy of our "gut feelings" because this whole ordeal is full of lies.
 
Re: The Chef, Kai Chase's Blog about the day Michael Died

Trennyboo said:
Video report from "Access Hollywood"http://www.accesshollywood.com/did-michael-jacksons-chef-witness-his-final-moments-july-29-2009_video_1140295
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Thanks for the link - I just watched it.

Very creepy and detailed about how to administer propofol. The patient STOPS breathing and the nurse pumps oxygen UNTIL a breathing tube can be inserted. Good god! Why would anyone want to risk this? Still - I refuse to blame Michael. The Dr should know better. He played a game of chance with Michael's life and the only one who lost was Michael. This sux....
 
This is what hurts me the most. Michael took care of himself in terms of eating the right thing YET he died from some type of drug and not from some illment. This is just wrong.
 
andythemisfit said:
Here is the chef's interview:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/32216502#32216502
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Interesting. Kai just stated that Prince DID NOT go upstairs to Michael's room with Murray. I swear I don't know what to believe so I'll be Switzerland for now.

Ugh....Ok, she fed Michael from April through May and Michael was healthy, happy and excited about the concerts. "Vibrant" she states. She said he looked good in black jeans, jacket and glasses. Michael was very UP about the tour. Very excited.

THEN she was let go for only 3 weeks and during those 3 weeks Murray comes on the scene. When she comes back in June he's not vibrant any longer. He looks tired, he's slowed down. Michael is thin and said "Keep me healthy. They're killing me. two rehearsals, they're killing me". She see's Murray coming down with oxygen tanks. June 25, Michael is dead.

It only took Murray 3 weeks to kill Michael. What other conclusion can you draw from this? I believe Kai is telling the truth. I sincerely hope she does cook for Katherine and the children. The children would benefit from her familiarity. So damn sad.
 
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everyone seems to be incredulous about the Dr not knowing the address, well I visit people regularly where I live, including family and I have no idea what their actual address is, I just know where they live.
I'm not saying the doc is innocent here, we don't know anything yet, but that factor just isn't weird to me.
 
Redridinghood said:
everyone seems to be incredulous about the Dr not knowing the address, well I visit people regularly where I live, including family and I have no idea what their actual address is, I just know where they live.
I'm not saying the doc is innocent here, we don't know anything yet, but that factor just isn't weird to me.
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he lived just off sunset boulevard. you'd have to have an IQ of 5 to not know where he lived.
 
Redridinghood said:
I don't understand, why would you have to have an IQ of less than 5 to not know an address?
Maybe a car took him to and from the house?
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Nope. Murray apparently drove there himself. His car was reportedly impounded by police at Mike's house the day Mike passed.

But the main point is that he could have been on the phone to 911 while running around the house looking for someone to give him the actual address. He apparently didn't even try to call 911.

The chef said Murray was "frantic". Frantic. Wouldn't docs be trained to deal with emergency situations like this? As a doc, you're trained to remember how to correctly administer CPR even if you're frantic.

Add that to the fact he didn't come down at 10 or so to get Mike something to start his day like he normally did, and this could have been a situation where Mike was already dead for over an hour (maybe 2) before Murray got somebody else to call 911.
 
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Redridinghood said:
I don't understand, why would you have to have an IQ of less than 5 to not know an address?
Maybe a car took him to and from the house?
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To add to the other comment: Murray ditched his car when he DIDN'T accompany Michael to the hospital. The car was impounded so they could pinpoint the doctor (according to the media which are lying sacks so who knows?). Why did he leave his car? Where did he go? Who picked him up? Why didn't he go to the hospital? PANIC that's why. And why panic? He's a trained cardiologist!
 
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