Latest on MJJC

Dr's Defense/Blaming Michael Jackson - Joe Suppects Others (Not just Murray)

  • Thread starter Dangerous Incorporated
  • Start date

Dangerous Incorporated

Guests
INSIDE EDITION is hearing for the first time about Dr. Conrad Murray's possible defense strategy if he's indicted in the death of Michael Jackson.

Dr. Murray's lawyers will reportedly claim Jackson accidentally killed himself with an overdose of the powerful anesthetic Propofol.

The defense plans to claim that Jackson reset the IV that was administering the drug when Dr. Murray left him alone in his bedroom. That increased dosage then killed him.

Investigative journalist Gerald Posner reported the possible defense strategy on the Daily Beast website, saying, "The defense strategy is to say that Conrad Murray did not give Jackson a lethal dose of Propofol and as a matter of fact he was trying to wean him off his addiction."

Dr. Murray's lawyers denied that to INSIDE EDITION, and said they are still waiting for the toxicology reports. Murray has denied any wrongdoing in connection with Jackson's death.

Joe Jackson, appearing on the Today show, spoke out for the first time since his son's death was ruled a homicide.

"It tells me it was foul play done, and more to be investigated to see what really is behind all of this stuff, not just Dr. Conrad Murray," Jackson said.

Michael Jackson tributes were held around the world on his 51st birthday over the weekend. Director Spike Lee hosted a party for thousands of fans in Brooklyn.

In Paris, they celebrated in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower.

And in Mexico City, a crowd of thousands danced to "Thriller" to honor the King of Pop.

Michael Jackson's body will finally be buried this week in a private ceremony in California.

http://www.insideedition.com/news.aspx?storyID=3323
 
^^Maybe the cops are investigating AEG or Tohme or others first before charging just Murray. They may charge a few people with murder, more than the manslaughter the media are on about.
 
Yeah, blame the victim, eh? Stupid. I'm curious how, if Murray does use this defense, he plans to explain away the whole twisted timeline of events and his ever changing story, and being on the phone all that time and everything else. If this were really what happened, why the heck wouldn't he just say that from the beginning? It makes no sense. Twisting it around against Michael, after Murray has lied and changed his story so many times, would prove to me beyond all doubt that Murray killed Michael (even if only accidentally) and has done nothing but try to cover it up ever since.
 
but hey....everyone is going against Conrad who clearly messed everything up that a cardiologist should have gotten right..
what about "doctors" who has "treated" MJ for many many many years....shouldnt they come forward...surely there some "sceletons"
 
I'm sorry, but wasn't Dr. Murray administering a drug to MJ that isn't allowed out of a hospital facility? Dr. Murray is in denial if he is trying to put all the blame on MJ for his own death, only Murray's lawyers would try to prove that MJ is the sole blame for his own passing(pure crap). I also agree with Joe that other people need to be brought to court. I mean, how was Dr. Murray, a cardiologist, able to get a drug that is used by an anesthesiologist?
 
Last edited:
Exactly how did Michael turn up the amount- if he was drugged up? If you are "out"- You are "out".
Murray claim to have only been out a few minutes ( to the restroom). I presume that he would have waited to go, until he had seen that Michael was reacting to the drug.
 
thats the only defence murray has. even thats not a difference cause is he gonna say mj gave himself all the benzos aswell
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
^^Maybe the cops are investigating AEG or Tohme or others first before charging just Murray. They may charge a few people with murder, more than the manslaughter the media are on about.
Click to expand...

I hope that to be true, especially Tohme but... I'm not holding my breath on this with the LAPD... :(

As for the media scr*w them if they want to support Murray or give him ideas or even lay down this idea so the public believe it by the time there is a trial... Justice is what I'm interested in, the media are only interested in selling stories/viewing figures and not the truth.
 
lol...this thing is getting funnier by the day. Blaming Michael 4 his own death? Wasnt it Murry that gave him 4 or 5 other Drugs b4 giving him the propofol? WTF is the point on being a Doctor if you dont take care of your patient Properlly. I mean Damn.

Next they're gonna say, Dr. Murry was not even there to give him the drugs...Mike did it by himself...This story changes by the second that its soo funny. Nice Cover Dr. Murry!
 
well he wasn't supposed to use it or admin it

he got it through a third party, it seems

he left theroom

he didn't have the necessary equip. to alert him if mj's heart was in distress

he failed to act accordingly during an emergency

he botched the cpr, refused to call tod, and then fled when cops told him to stick around.

aka mens rea....GUILTY MIND
 
Are they gonna claim he "reset it" while he was unconscious???

So Chernoff is seriously gonna have an explanation as to how someone who has been put under with an iv drip, is unconscious within seconds of it being administered, miraculously has the ability to then change a med vial to increase doseage and OD themself, again all while they are still unconscious? :huh: He must think we are as stupid as him and his client, but little does he know.....


"Three things cannot be hidden, the sun, the moon, and the truth." ~ Buddha ~
 
Very stupid on the Lawyer's part. Propofol sends you under in seconds, how can Michael wake up from oblivion and reset the IV pump?? is beyond me people..
I hear lots of rubbish, but this tops it off.
Weak and pathetic..
Next thing they will say Michael will get up from the dead and testify for the defense..
 
ashtanga said:
I understand the reasoning of Joe. He is saying many things through subliminal messages. I'll keep watching...
Click to expand...

Well Joe cant come out yet and flat out say he suspect so and so. He has to let the investigation takes it course. He cant jeopardise that.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Well Joe cant come out yet and flat out say he suspect so and so. He has to let the investigation takes it course. He cant jeopardise that.
Click to expand...

Yes, but Joe knows something we do not know and may be that the secret police are investigating. What Joe said is only that we start to think: there are many things behind it all and do not know. Something much bigger and serious. Things are not always as we see.

So you must pay close attention to events and people. And watch carefully always.
 
I just asked my mom who has been a CCU RN for 40 years and she told that that scenario is impossible for Michael to administer a higher dose of propofol on himself. Like what was said here, the propofol will put you out instantly and she said that when the drip is finished it takes like 5-10 min usually for you to 'recover', but this is in normal hospital settings. Murray claims he left Michael for only a few min or so to use the bathroom.

She also told me that intubation is mandatory with the use of propofol and as far as I know there was no use of of intubation on Michael. She said that is REALLY SCARY.

I think the defense is hoping that people will lose common sense (as in the case with most things about Michael) and believe this unlikely scenario. But I am hoping that people will have common sense and see right through this bullsh*t.

Hmmm. . . what if SOMEONE ELSE came into Michael's room while Murray was out and administered the higher dose of propofol?????
 
elmari said:
I just asked my mom who has been a CCU RN for 40 years and she told that that scenario is impossible for Michael to administer a higher dose of propofol on himself. Like what was said here, the propofol will put you out instantly and she said that when the drip is finished it takes like 5-10 min usually for you to 'recover', but this is in normal hospital settings. Murray claims he left Michael for only a few min or so to use the bathroom.

She also told me that intubation is mandatory with the use of propofol and as far as I know there was no use of of intubation on Michael. She said that is REALLY SCARY.

I think the defense is hoping that people will lose common sense (as in the case with most things about Michael) and believe this unlikely scenario. But I am hoping that people will have common sense and see right through this bullsh*t.

Hmmm. . . what if SOMEONE ELSE came into Michael's room while Murray was out and administered the higher dose of propofol?????
Click to expand...

Well, I do have a funny feeling that there is more to this that Murray just being a completely incompetent and recless doctor. If the amount of propfol is as high as the reports indicate, that seems to be very, very strange.
 
You know I know everyone has their opinion and their thoughts on what happen but somethings dont even have to be wondered about anymore; its a HOMICIDE - MICHAEL JACKSON WAS MURDERED.

Im not gonna play the guessing game of how because thats just another coverup and distraction to hinder the process of coming after ALL the people that MURDERED MICHAEL because Dr. Conrad Murray sure didnt commit HOMICIDE MURDER of any kind by himself. These DOGS and I mean everyone of them male and female that planned Michael's Death for years, oh yea you know who you are and what you did, everyone of you that brought Dr. Murray into that Death House and setup all that mess in that house to make it look like anything but a MURDER just know you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cant fool all the people all the time.
 
ashtanga said:
Yes, but Joe knows something we do not know and may be that the secret police are investigating. What Joe said is only that we start to think: there are many things behind it all and do not know. Something much bigger and serious. Things are not always as we see.

So you must pay close attention to events and people. And watch carefully always.
Click to expand...


I agree with this too.

I also appreciate how many of the Jackson's seem to know, there are more involved in Michael's death than just Murray. My instinct tell me, they do suspect particular ones and I believe it will come as a shock to many fans as to who all had some involvement either directly or indirectly in what happened to Michael.

When CNN showed Rev Al Sharpton at the memorial on June 7th, I could tell by what he said, that he too suspected more than 1 person, he eluded to the same recently after the burial but i can't remember his exact words.

I think the family and their private advisors, lawyers, etc, know alot more than what they are able to let on at this time ( and for good reason).

I wish, this was not happening to them. Oh, God how i wish this was a bad and long dream.
 
No one wants to take accountability for their actions these days. The truth will prevail. Dr. Murray and whomever else is involved will get their due. I believe strongly in karma. One thing I believe is that regardless of what Joe did when Michael and his siblings were growing up, I believe he had their best interest at heart as well as his own of course. I guess don't we all. I don't feel he would have let things go this far with his son. Also, Michael did have his own mind, we can't forget that. As far as the media is concerned; anything to get their story. Remember, this is what they did to Michael when he was alive regardless if they had the facts straight or not. I read in one of the books...I think it is the Conspiracy book that the media actually was going to stop covering Michael's trial because there was another major event somewhere overseas. Since there was nothing else sensationalistic to report on Michael, they needed to go find something else. I can't remember what the story was. Anyway, I think I've made my point. So why would they stop now? Michael was right in that this world is a scary place. What have we come to? People need to take a step back and think about what we are doing and how we treat people. Who are we to judge anyone? Ok I'm off my soapbox now...my sincere apologies for going there. Thank you.
 
windy09 said:
No one wants to take accountability for their actions these days. The truth will prevail. Dr. Murray and whomever else is involved will get their due. I believe strongly in karma. One thing I believe is that regardless of what Joe did when Michael and his siblings were growing up, I believe he had their best interest at heart as well as his own of course. I guess don't we all. I don't feel he would have let things go this far with his son. Also, Michael did have his own mind, we can't forget that. As far as the media is concerned; anything to get their story. Remember, this is what they did to Michael when he was alive regardless if they had the facts straight or not. I read in one of the books...I think it is the Conspiracy book that the media actually was going to stop covering Michael's trial because there was another major event somewhere overseas. Since there was nothing else sensationalistic to report on Michael, they needed to go find something else. I can't remember what the story was. Anyway, I think I've made my point. So why would they stop now? Michael was right in that this world is a scary place. What have we come to? People need to take a step back and think about what we are doing and how we treat people. Who are we to judge anyone? Ok I'm off my soapbox now...my sincere apologies for going there. Thank you.
Click to expand...


I would put all the Money I own in this World that The Jackson not only suspect but have evidence from their own investigation and the Official Homicide Report of the LAPD that "MANY" people are involved in Michael's Murder, its only the people out here that believe ONLY Dr. Murray killed Michael; The Jacksons know things they cant talk about right now and I dont blame them because even though the Killers know Michael Homicide Investigation leads to their front door they believe as long as people believe it was ONLY Dr. Murray they may escape but they want, I bet they have shredded so many forged documents with Michael signature, financial documents all types of documents, but their downfall will be someone in their inner circle starting to talk and that person mentioning it to someone close to them and that person whispering it to someone else and that person telling someone else and that person telling the right person, it never fails and there is no way in heaven or hell Michael Jackson's Murderers will not be EXPOSED its just a matter of time and it want be long.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top