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As I read through the posts and the threads, I see that some are still incapacitated with grief, or are so upset they are harming themselves. This is SO sad, both for you, and for us, here. I'd like to remind you of these resources:

suicide hotlines

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66247

Coping with grief web-site

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68121

These are both online resources, though. If you are seriously upset, I want to urge you to to find counseling, face-to-face, in the place where you live. Or at least, be sure there is someone you can talk to. . a relative or friend, or fellow-Michael fan. . . .here, or better yet, face-to-face. If you get professional help, there are medications you can take that will break the downward spiral and help you to feel better, as well as talking to someone familiar with recovery from grief.

I DO understand the severity of the grief, but I'm certain Michael would not want anyone to come to harm, because of what's happened to him! Please try to think of some POSITIVE things to do, to carry on his legacy. That might mean volunteering with a charity, or even just compiling a list or scrapbook of Michael's good works. He spent his lifetime helping others, so please. . those who are still severely upset. . . try to help YOURSELVES by seeking counseling and other face-to-face support.

Hugs to everyone,

Victoria
 
Vic is correct..sometimes we cannot handle things on our own and seeking help is the best answer for someone who is not getting any better....It does work...you may say to your self ..Oh I cannot speak to anyone face to face about my problem....but once you sit down and start talking...it all comes out...it does take time to get through the healing process..but I promise ...talking to someone really does help...
 
I am in counceling... and it does help.

Since I am and I know there's a time for talking about whatever is on my mind or even soul my thoughts are not all the time circeling around the same somehow without that I could controll them.
Also it's easier to get sorted out what's just too much for me for now and to protect myself from it somehow.

It feels for me so good to get this support.
 
I have been in counseling before too, and it's like taking a weight off your shoulders when you talk to someone about it. And it is so healing to know that they aren't going to judge you. It is painful at first, but there is nothing to be embarassed or ashamed of for going (which I was when I started)
 
BUMP it up for my fellow fans!

((((((((warm hug)))))))))))))))))
 
BUMP it up for my fellow fans!

((((((((warm hug)))))))))))))))))
 
Vic you know, when i think of MJJC mods i first think of you. i admire you so much. you are so courageous and so helpful. i wish i could give you a huuuugggeeeee bunch of flowers for your birthday....i just wanna thank you from the bottom of my heart for caring so much. God bless you
 
CatherineNZ said:
Vic you know, when i think of MJJC mods i first think of you. i admire you so much. you are so courageous and so helpful. i wish i could give you a huuuugggeeeee bunch of flowers for your birthday....i just wanna thank you from the bottom of my heart for caring so much. God bless you
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Awww, that's very kind, and much appreciated. All the staff at MJJC work hard, though, and all deserve thanks for working through this very difficult time. At times it seems like a nightmare that must be survived, and at other times I'm just very grateful to still have this community of people who understand.
 
........tomorrow I'm gonna go to my familydoctor,have a' talk about it and see what happends after it:yes:
 
I was told to see this thread and ask for help...

I'm sorry to say,but i will not do that.

I have a lot more to think about and worry.
 
Thankyou for this thread Victoria. I don't know whether I'm happy or sad to say that I have taken this route. To anyone thinking about it, I say go for it. My doctor was really understanding and is now helping me through things to do with Michael, and other things in my life that are getting me down/holding me back. I wonder now why I didn't do it sooner. Victoria - thanks for caring.
 
Well, thank you.
I also have many probs, still........
i can not deal with the thought he,s gone.......
Luckily there are many people with who i can talk. that helps......
 
StaceyMJ said:
Thankyou for this thread Victoria. I don't know whether I'm happy or sad to say that I have taken this route. To anyone thinking about it, I say go for it. My doctor was really understanding and is now helping me through things to do with Michael, and other things in my life that are getting me down/holding me back. I wonder now why I didn't do it sooner. Victoria - thanks for caring.
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I'm so glad to hear this! And, that your doctor is understanding of the grief you feel. That's important. .. . because not everyone DOES understand.

Yes, I DO care . . . . . .

Vic
 
I'm not sure my little village doctor would understand me if I went in and said how bad I was feeling because of the death of Michael Jackson. He's a celebrity...I don't think we are supposed to feel like this are we?I keep going in cycles.. I posted a thread on here a few weeks ago and the answers really helped me. I thought my grief was over but the last couple of days I've been down again. To be honest its more the fact that Michael was so misunderstood. The terrible things people say about him is what is getting me upset and angry. Thats what I can't deal with.. they should know the true Michael not the media created caricature. Its NOT FAIR. They think he is something hes not. They don't know what a wonderful person he was. I stumbled upon the booklet from the private funeral service whilst clearing out my laptop today, I read it, probably shouldn't have. Reading the messages from his brothers and sisters made me cry. I feel so so sad for his children.. thats what hurts the most. His poor little children without their daddy. Blanket is 7. How much do you remember from when you're 7? *sigh*. I dread to think what they will be going through and what will happen when they're older, what crap they'll see when they're older and search their fathers name in google.
 
Rockin. said:
I'm not sure my little village doctor would understand me if I went in and said how bad I was feeling because of the death of Michael Jackson. He's a celebrity...I don't think we are supposed to feel like this are we?I keep going in cycles.. I posted a thread on here a few weeks ago and the answers really helped me. I thought my grief was over but the last couple of days I've been down again. To be honest its more the fact that Michael was so misunderstood. The terrible things people say about him is what is getting me upset and angry. Thats what I can't deal with.. they should know the true Michael not the media created caricature. Its NOT FAIR. They think he is something hes not. They don't know what a wonderful person he was. I stumbled upon the booklet from the private funeral service whilst clearing out my laptop today, I read it, probably shouldn't have. Reading the messages from his brothers and sisters made me cry. I feel so so sad for his children.. thats what hurts the most. His poor little children without their daddy. Blanket is 7. How much do you remember from when you're 7? *sigh*. I dread to think what they will be going through and what will happen when they're older, what crap they'll see when they're older and search their fathers name in google.
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I think that with the medical profession, or any professionals, a lot depends on their individual personalities. It might depend, too, on the way you SAY it? If you are not sure about the person you speak with, you might detail the history. You could say, "Michael has been a part of my life since I was a child?" (for example). And, "I've always been surrounded by his music, and he was also a role-model for me. . . in his charity work, his message of peace and healing, and his courage." That might help someone who does NOT know, understand your loss better? Just the thought those precious children are left without a parent, should make someone else feel compassion?

People just might not know about all the good things Michael has done? His visiting sick children in hospitals, the many charities he supported, his "We Are the World" fund-raising, and the wonderful messages of "Man in the Mirror," and "Heal the World," and of course, "Earth Song."

But if you don't find anyone to speak with where you are, WE are always here for you, and we understand your grief.

Take care,

Vic
 
StaceyMJ said:
Thankyou for this thread Victoria. I don't know whether I'm happy or sad to say that I have taken this route. To anyone thinking about it, I say go for it. My doctor was really understanding and is now helping me through things to do with Michael, and other things in my life that are getting me down/holding me back. I wonder now why I didn't do it sooner. Victoria - thanks for caring.
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.......Awwwwww good on you,hun!:yes:

Well I went to my familydoctor aswell and she says my body is messed up from all the stress etc regarding the loss of Michael:yes:

I do have fibromyalgia and symptons accobined already and the stress makes it all worse,do have medications for tummy problems related to the fibromyalgia and I hope it all works soon,but I fully see the fact its gonna take time to fully heal from all this:yes:
 
Victoria83 said:
I think that with the medical profession, or any professionals, a lot depends on their individual personalities. It might depend, too, on the way you SAY it? If you are not sure about the person you speak with, you might detail the history. You could say, "Michael has been a part of my life since I was a child?" (for example). And, "I've always been surrounded by his music, and he was also a role-model for me. . . in his charity work, his message of peace and healing, and his courage." That might help someone who does NOT know, understand your loss better? Just the thought those precious children are left without a parent, should make someone else feel compassion?

People just might not know about all the good things Michael has done? His visiting sick children in hospitals, the many charities he supported, his "We Are the World" fund-raising, and the wonderful messages of "Man in the Mirror," and "Heal the World," and of course, "Earth Song."

But if you don't find anyone to speak with where you are, WE are always here for you, and we understand your grief.

Take care,

Vic
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Thank you for your reply and your advice. This forum has been a great help to me, thats why im here so much, i need it, i need to be around people who understand.
 
Remember, Michael went through this too.
Only he knew his idol.
It must have been so heart breaking having to deal with the pain of James Brown passing.
Some how, Michael came to terms with it. The same way we must come to terms with his passing now.
 
MichaelYoureAStud said:
Remember, Michael went through this too.
Only he knew his idol.
It must have been so heart breaking having to deal with the pain of James Brown passing.
Some how, Michael came to terms with it. The same way we must come to terms with his passing now.
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i was thinking about it too.
sometimes i think what's wrong with me. Michael could cope and you can't. i wish i knew how he was coping with it. i think it might be different for him... i mean for us Michael was and is like a friend. for me if there was a problem in my life i would say to myself "doesnt matter because at least there is Michael" ... oh well im just rambling... sorry
 
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