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Dr. Fripro Carr: What Really Happened to Michael Jackson?

Anyone else reading about Firpo Carr in Susan Etok's blog?
 
One of the things said is that in 2004 MJ had to publicly tell Firpo to stop

talking about him through his then publicist Raymone Bain. There is a link

to the press release.

Also, what Firpo said about Susan regarding Leonard Rowe doesn't seem

accurate when one listens to the phone conversations from July Susan

posted in her blog.
 
Oh, Thanks. I didn't even know she had a blog.
 
jfleenor2 said:
But I do understand that if this person were to come out and "tell all" now, he certainly could be in danger!
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Then he shouldn't say anything to the public at all! I think he should talk to the authorities investigating Michael's death if he really knows what happened and not post riddles on the web.

What purpose did that piece serve? It is full of inuendo, senstionalism, hints of misdeeds and unproven accusations and not one fact. The only thing it accomplishes, imo, is to make people think negatively of Michael and everyone who knew him and of course, to draw attention to Firpo Carr.
 
callmerose said:
Then he shouldn't say anything to the public at all! I think he should talk to the authorities investigating Michael's death if he really knows what happened and not post riddles on the web.

What purpose did that piece serve? It is full of inuendo, senstionalism, hints of misdeeds and unproven accusations and not one fact. The only thing it accomplishes, imo, is to make people think negatively of Michael and everyone who knew him and of course, to draw attention to Firpo Carr.
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Hi Callmerose,

I read all the articles posted by Firpo Carr and while you could be right , I have no reason to believe his motivation is to draw attention to himself and put Michael in a negative light, but on other hand I do agree that the article isn't very revealing, it is a bit sensationalist and his previous articles weren't like that.

What is the point of writing this article anyway ? It makes us none the wiser, it only adds more fuel to the various theories and speculations floating around.
Maybe he is trying to warn people that the truth can be more upsetting than we may realize and by that I don't mean Michael and his actions but rather people around Michael.
I think the level of betrayal around him is higher than we can imagine, which is why the investigation is taking longer as more facts are uncovered and other peoples involvement unearthed. Maybe this is too pessimistic and grim a picture I'm painting here but it's how I felt from the start, don't ask me why.
 
callmerose said:
Then he shouldn't say anything to the public at all! I think he should talk to the authorities investigating Michael's death if he really knows what happened and not post riddles on the web.

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That's what I think too.
 
firpo carr is nothing but a media whore the trial proved that.
 
Excuse me for my ignorance, I had never heard of this guy b4 June 25th. But, what did he do?
 
MJJLaugh said:
Hi Callmerose,

I read all the articles posted by Firpo Carr and while you could be right , I have no reason to believe his motivation is to draw attention to himself and put Michael in a negative light, but on other hand I do agree that the article isn't very revealing, it is a bit sensationalist and his previous articles weren't like that.

What is the point of writing this article anyway ? It makes us none the wiser, it only adds more fuel to the various theories and speculations floating around.
Maybe he is trying to warn people that the truth can be more upsetting than we may realize and by that I don't mean Michael and his actions but rather people around Michael.I think the level of betrayal around him is higher than we can imagine, which is why the investigation is taking longer as more facts are uncovered and other peoples involvement unearthed. Maybe this is too pessimistic and grim a picture I'm painting here but it's how I felt from the start, don't ask me why.
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that is the reason i think he wrote the article too. obviously, it was not to TELL, but to WARN.
 
We need more details....all the details, and I am wondering why he said that some things are best left unsaid or not spoken of (something like that). No, No, No.....we want the truth. Please don't play with us. We don't like the games. I hate to put this so bluntly but: "Either spit it out or Shut-up"!!!
 
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This was what most caught my eye. Such an entangled web. I'm starting to believe this "suicide" may have been another murder; cleaning up loose ends. Still waiting for Murrays "suicide" also.
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I have never really given Evan Chandler's suicide much thought at all but I have read the suspicions of other fans and you guys who feel this way, may have a point.

What if after Michael's death Somebody knew Evan Chandler finally grew a conscience and was ready to talk and spill the beans and name names in the 93 allegations which in return would link some rather high profiled and powerful people from the 2005 trial?

It doesn't really make alot of sense for him to commit suicide now does it? Why commit suicide now after the man you reportedly hated so much is finally permanantly gone, forever.
A man in his shoes should be riding on his high horse celebrating. Remember what we read about how upset Evan Chandler was that Michael took over his family and how he wanted to get MJ back for that ish????

A reported and known enemy would not commit suicide after their nemisis is taken down, they usual find reason to celebrate.

Damn!! If this wasn't suicide, Michael's life was in much more danger than any of us can imagine.

If this wasn;'t a suicide and those who are speaking the truth from the family about him being murdered just may start to stay quiet..........And if that happens, that would be proof of the "suicide" being a warning?

Just my Theory after reading other people's take on it.
 
Moddie777 said:
I have never really given Evan Chandler's suicide much thought at all but I have read the suspicions of other fans and you guys who feel this way, may have a point.

What if after Michael's death Somebody knew Evan Chandler finally grew a conscience and was ready to talk and spill the beans and name names in the 93 allegations which in return would link some rather high profiled and powerful people from the 2005 trial?

It doesn't really make alot of sense for him to commit suicide now does it? Why commit suicide now after the man you reportedly hated so much is finally permanantly gone, forever.
A man in his shoes should be riding on his high horse celebrating. Remember what we read about how upset Evan Chandler was that Michael took over his family and how he wanted to get MJ back for that ish????

A reported and known enemy would not commit suicide after their nemisis is taken down, they usual find reason to celebrate.

Damn!! If this wasn't suicide, Michael's life was in much more danger than any of us can imagine.

If this wasn;'t a suicide and those who are speaking the truth from the family about him being murdered just may start to stay quiet..........And if that happens, that would be proof of the "suicide" being a warning?

Just my Theory after reading other people's take on it.
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some people in his family are saying it was murder?? why? is there any evidence?

seriously, i DONT want it to be murder. because it just makes everything more creepy.

i've already had enough!

but i do know one thing, the masterminds behind michael jackson's murder are so intelligent, they COULD kill chandler and completley get away with it.

i WANT to believe it was suicide. and i will. unless more evidence comes out that it is murder.
 
Moddie777 said:
I have never really given Evan Chandler's suicide much thought at all but I have read the suspicions of other fans and you guys who feel this way, may have a point.

What if after Michael's death Somebody knew Evan Chandler finally grew a conscience and was ready to talk and spill the beans and name names in the 93 allegations which in return would link some rather high profiled and powerful people from the 2005 trial?

It doesn't really make alot of sense for him to commit suicide now does it? Why commit suicide now after the man you reportedly hated so much is finally permanantly gone, forever.
A man in his shoes should be riding on his high horse celebrating. Remember what we read about how upset Evan Chandler was that Michael took over his family and how he wanted to get MJ back for that ish????

A reported and known enemy would not commit suicide after their nemisis is taken down, they usual find reason to celebrate.

Damn!! If this wasn't suicide, Michael's life was in much more danger than any of us can imagine.

If this wasn;'t a suicide and those who are speaking the truth from the family about him being murdered just may start to stay quiet..........And if that happens, that would be proof of the "suicide" being a warning?

Just my Theory after reading other people's take on it.
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Suicide doesn't make sense to me either, I mean why would he suddenly have guilt, he had none before so maybe he was murdered because he could name people.

In Geraldine Hughes book Redemption, she was a secretary, for the lawyers Evan Chandler used she says their was a tape and Evan Chandler saying there were other powerful people behind him to take Michael Jsckson down it wasn't just him, the links to those who have information are being cut. These other people are possibly the same people who are behind MJ demise this time?
 
kasume said:
some people in his family are saying it was murder?? why? is there any evidence?

seriously, i DONT want it to be murder. because it just makes everything more creepy.

i've already had enough!

but i do know one thing, the masterminds behind michael jackson's murder are so intelligent, they COULD kill chandler and completley get away with it.

i WANT to believe it was suicide. and i will. unless more evidence comes out that it is murder.
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kasume, I was trying to say if Evan Chandler's death wasn't a suicide, then those members of the Jackson Family going out publically saying MJ was MURDERED may start to get quiet, as Evan Chandler's so called "suicide" could be a warning to them to shut up or elese?
 
Gaiaschild said:
Suicide doesn't make sense to me either, I mean why would he suddenly have guilt, he had none before so maybe he was murdered because he could name people.

In Geraldine Hughes book Redemption, she was a secretary, for the lawyers Evan Chandler used she says their was a tape and Evan Chandler saying there were other powerful people behind him to take Michael Jsckson down it wasn't just him, the links to those who have information are being cut. These other people are possibly the same people who are behind MJ demise this time?
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Yep! I remember that too about Evan Chandler bragging about their being some very powerful people partnering with him to bring down Michael Jackson.

This man sounded arrogant and he showed signs of being scorned by June and Michael's relationship, he made a comment about MJ taking over his family. But wasn't he and June already separated or divorced when he made that statement( i believe i read that from Redemption).

My Point is, the little info we have on Evan Chandler showed how willing he was to take part of causing massive harm to Michael Jackson's life and career, he wanted MJ to feel pain and hurt. He wanted the upper hand. He wanted to get MJ back.

With MJ now being deceased, do you get him back by taking your own life?

I don't think so.
 
Going only by the "assumed" factual information that he was being treated for terminal cancer, and the recent death of Michael, I think his life situation and the entire inescapeable ugliness of everything over years and years could quite likely been a part or reason for his ultimate suicide.

jmo
 
wow all I can say is my head hurts :brow: :stars: crikey

I personally thought right from day one that he'd been murdered just a gut feeling (interesting to find I'm not the only one who thought that!)

I hoestly hope we find out what on earth happened & soon & get some justice for Michael

besides that I really honestly don't know what else to say i'm so baffled right now (and tired too which doesn't help!)
 
bgz said:
Going only by the "assumed" factual information that he was being treated for terminal cancer, and the recent death of Michael, I think his life situation and the entire inescapeable ugliness of everything over years and years could quite likely been a part or reason for his ultimate suicide.

jmo
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I didn't know he was being treated for terminal cancer. There are many reports about people wanting too or succeeding in committing suicide when battling a terminal Illness.

After reading about him in "Redemption" I'm not so sure I a convinced he would do that to himself. He hated Michael Jackson, he wanted payback bigtime, with our Michael now gone I just don't see why he would take his own life? The timing doesn't make sense, even with him being terminally ill?

I guess one has to really know a person in order to be for certain, and he aint anybody I would cared to have known better.
 
MJJLaugh said:
Hi Callmerose,

I read all the articles posted by Firpo Carr and while you could be right , I have no reason to believe his motivation is to draw attention to himself and put Michael in a negative light, but on other hand I do agree that the article isn't very revealing, it is a bit sensationalist and his previous articles weren't like that.

What is the point of writing this article anyway ? It makes us none the wiser, it only adds more fuel to the various theories and speculations floating around.
Maybe he is trying to warn people that the truth can be more upsetting than we may realize and by that I don't mean Michael and his actions but rather people around Michael.
I think the level of betrayal around him is higher than we can imagine, which is why the investigation is taking longer as more facts are uncovered and other peoples involvement unearthed. Maybe this is too pessimistic and grim a picture I'm painting here but it's how I felt from the start, don't ask me why.
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I think if he really has nothing new to say, it would be better if he didn't write anything. The part about not wanting to hear what really happened has made some people wonder if Michael killed himself. I think this is a horrible suspiscion to plant in people's minds.
 
callmerose said:
I think if he really has nothing new to say, it would be better if he didn't write anything. The part about not wanting to hear what really happened has made some people wonder if Michael killed himself. I think this is a horrible suspiscion to plant in people's minds.
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Michael did not WANT to kill himself! And anyone who knew Michael well enough, even just being a fan, would know Michael would not to do something like that!
 
callmerose said:
I think if he really has nothing new to say, it would be better if he didn't write anything. The part about not wanting to hear what really happened has made some people wonder if Michael killed himself. I think this is a horrible suspiscion to plant in people's minds.
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Do you really believe that was his intent ? I do not believe that was his intent at all and I also, not for one millisecond, don't believe that Michael would have wanted to kill himself. He had so many projects planned, he had signed up for an art history course finally ( encouraged by Paris), his children first and foremost, they would lose the only parent they have ever known.

This is the first time I heard about people wondering this about Michael, never heard it before.
I think, like Moddie777 said before, that Firpo Carr was trying to warn people of the scale and the ugliness of the whole situation. You know like how a child's world can be shattered when they find out elves and Santa Claus don't exist. In this case, our world's perception and view on mankind can be shattered once we find out the truth and it is simply so heartbreaking and so awful that one would wish not to have known the truth.

But that's just my take on the writing of the article......
 
I believe Firpo Carr's article was trying to warn the GENERAL PUBLIC, THE MASSES, and certainly not the majority of the fans (most of us already knew on day1, it was murder)that our Michael was murdered by multiple people in his own camp, that is was a planned and well thought out murder with its own scapegoat. His article indicates this was not an accident and Michael could not have done this to himself, in other words, it was done to him.

The general public has had these two things thrown at them through the media since June 25th: Michael is a druggie,& Michael begged for the propofol. This is embedded in their subconscious about who Michael was and how he died.

Think, what would be the opposite of that???? This is what Firpo Carr's article is trying to get across, He is trying to tell the world, it did not happen they way the media has been telling us it happened nor did it happen the way Murray say either.

I believe Firpo Carr knows alot about what happened the night Michael Jackson was murdered.

If we want to uncover the truths and all of its players, completely dismissing what he says would probably be a mistake.( imo)
 
kasume said:
Michael did not WANT to kill himself! And anyone who knew Michael well enough, even just being a fan, would know Michael would not to do something like that!
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Couldn't agree more Kasume!! Basically I was trying to say the same thing. Also agree with you Moddie777.

Funny isn't the right word of course, but isn't it odd how many fans are shocked and still in disbelief by the thread about the November 20th search warrant mentioning murder investigation. Why don't people want to believe it, even fans, when there are so many facts pointing in that direction. It's really strange.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, as we are in fact still speculating based on the facts we have learned of so far, but different people come to different conclusions. That, to me, is fascinating!
 
MJJLaugh said:
Couldn't agree more Kasume!! Basically I was trying to say the same thing. Also agree with you Moddie777.

Funny isn't the right word of course, but isn't it odd how many fans are shocked and still in disbelief by the thread about the November 20th search warrant mentioning murder investigation. Why don't people want to believe it, even fans, when there are so many facts pointing in that direction. It's really strange.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, as we are in fact still speculating based on the facts we have learned of so far, but different people come to different conclusions. That, to me, is fascinating!
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It's like some don't want to fathom or accept even the possibility of Michael being murdered. It's better for them if Michael was a victim of negligence, maybe it's a coping mechanism. And as for others that come on here, they rather have Michael as 'the addict' that begged and demanded propofal and should therefore, bear partial responsibility.

Even though murder didn't come into my mind at first (I thought it was natural causes due to Michael having cardiac arrest) as I read and heard certain things and put 2 and 2 together---not to mention how I noticed how EXTREMLY quick and EXTREMLY aggressive the drug addict angle has been pushed---I concluded that Michael was murdered.

Murdering someone by lethal injection is VERY easy to disguise as an overdose or as something the victim contributed to, especially if that victim is a person who went though a period of prescription dependency. Look at how many people have fallen for it, including some in Michael's family and within the fanbase.
 
MJJLaugh said:
Couldn't agree more Kasume!! Basically I was trying to say the same thing. Also agree with you Moddie777.

Funny isn't the right word of course, but isn't it odd how many fans are shocked and still in disbelief by the thread about the November 20th search warrant mentioning murder investigation. Why don't people want to believe it, even fans, when there are so many facts pointing in that direction. It's really strange.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, as we are in fact still speculating based on the facts we have learned of so far, but different people come to different conclusions. That, to me, is fascinating!
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Yes it is fascinating. I also think its denial and too painful for some fans to go there. It must be emotinally safer for them to live in denial about where the evidence is pointing.

The sad thing is: If the truth about his murder ever should surface and Justice prevails with multiple arrest, REALITY will hit! And those fans who were in denial are probably gonna feel as though Michael has died all over again. Who would want to suffer like that again. Certainly not me!
 
Dr Firpo Carr KNOWS who did it.

Please, Dr. Carr - I beg you to tell the police.

And I've always had the gut feeling that Murray was not alone in that mansion. Either he was framed or told to do what he did - and NOTHING can shake that feeling from me.
 
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