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Vote that it was murder, not manslaughter!

Well no coz non of us know if it was murder, so we cant just say it is because thats what we want. Dont get me wrong if michael died because of this man then i want him to be dealt with just as much as everyone else but when all we have heard is newspaper storys (which as mj fans we know never to trust), then we cant just go around stating this man deliberitly killed michael. Remember when mj was in court and everyone was calling him sick and such, remember how much we all hated that nd how much we hated the fact that no one but his fans would let michael hav his time to prove his inocence before being judged. Plz dont be biased just becoz u r an mj fan, we all no that michael wouldnt agree with jodging sumone before knowing true facts.
 
You don't know if it was a Murder.No one knows.

Remember 2005 and all the things.Murray is in the same place now.
 
The ones pushing the murder story (Joe and Latoya) are all doing it for money.
 
It was murder, Murray is ketch and sony is behind all of this!!

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Eh, I don't really care what TMZ has to say.
I don't even visit their site.
Everybody is going to have differing opinions on this.

I don't really know what to think anymore...I just want justice... :(
 
It's good to see some common sense around here and not just fans who can't get over MJ's death and then go berserk with "MURDER! MURDER! OMG!".

I want justice for his negligence. But that's not the same as "murder" nor is it "OMG U'RE DEFENDING MURRAY". I just lost a big hero of mine and... I'm ready to get over the grief because it isn't doing me any good. Accusing this man of murder won't bring good ol' MJ back.

I know he's in peace now and God's taking good care of him. Plus, I know he'll never die! He is living in each one of us. In the music. I know and I feel it every time I play my guitar, every single time I write a song! He is there, giving me strength and inspiration.

This is Michael Jackson. And he lives. So I'm not going to let bad feelings screw my heart now. That's all...
 
lada said:
It was murder, Murray is ketch and sony is behind all of this!!
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Now this is just ridiculous, how do Sony come into this??!

It wasnt murder, because he didnt kill him intentionally. Which means it was Manslaughter. If he did kill him intentionally we dont know that, and we have no proof to say that he killed him intentionally.

I know people hate Murray because he killed Michael, and want him to serve the ultimate punishment. But you cant charge him with murder if he didnt intentionally kill him.
 
i agree with most of you...i don't believe it was murder, and if it was, we don't know that right now...However, what we do know is that Murray is obviously an incompetent physician and had he taken more care in Michael's health, Michael may be with us today....
 
Definitely manslaughter, thought 4 years if found guilty is really too little for taking someone's life even if it wasn't intentional.
 
omg :doh: I couldn't care less what TMZ thinks so I'm not even going to bother about that poll. Also, I have my own opinion about this. In my opinion it was murder. And no, I'm not going to state why I think that on this thread because I honestly don't feel like it. And I don't judge other people's opinions who are different from my own.

And all you people who are saying that "it's ridiculous" don't attack my opinion because I'm not attacking your opinion. I'm not telling you that you are wrong and that I'm right because we all really don't know the truth.

If you feel that involuntary manslaughter is a fit charge then you may go and take the poll on tmz and state your opinion. That does not mean that you have the right to attack others because their opinion does not match yours.

May I point out that we have no "proof" that Murray didn't do it on purpose either? Just a thought.
 
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Now this is just ridiculous, how do Sony come into this??!

It wasnt murder, because he didnt kill him intentionally. Which means it was Manslaughter. If he did kill him intentionally we dont know that, and we have no proof to say that he killed him intentionally.

I know people hate Murray because he killed Michael, and want him to serve the ultimate punishment. But you cant charge him with murder if he didnt intentionally kill him.
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Michael was murdered for his part in ATV, ask La Toya and or Jarmaine, they´ll tell you what´s the problem with ATV catalogue http://www.aishamusic.com/Judiciary_Report/latoya_jackson_sony_murdered_michale_jackson.htm
 
I've said from the very start that we can't just say Murray murdered Michael...it's a possibility.

Think about 2005, none of us liked people saying Michael was guilty without any evidence or knowing anything about the case, and now some of you are doing the same thing with Murray, which is a double standard.
 
Giant Enemy Cat said:
I've said from the very start that we can't just say Murray murdered Michael...it's a possibility.

Think about 2005, none of us liked people saying Michael was guilty without any evidence or knowing anything about the case, and now some of you are doing the same thing with Murray, which is a double standard.
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Again, that is an opinion. Your opinion is that he didn't do it on purpose others may have different views than you. I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm not saying that the people who think it was murder, such as myself, are right. People have different opinions than others.

Opinion - a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
 
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I wish you would all stop arguing with each other!

What, does wishing such disgusting things on this man make you feel any better? Is it going to bring Michael back?

NO it isn't! No matter what the sentance is or what happens to him, Michael is never coming back! In other words, it makes no difference as the result is the same!

Being a hatemonger is also not going to help. Infact, it'll do the complete opposite and it will destroy you!

Now I researched both sides of the tale and the evidence points to manslaughter. It was nothing more than a stupid accident that could have easily been avoided. I don't think malice and murder was involved.

Instead of throwing accusations around, try researching the entire story! NEVER judge untill you know the whole story. (Any of this sound familier?)
 
But there isn't actually any evidence that it was murder, so why are we tampering with this vote?
 
Wow, please remind me to NEVER look at people's comments on that website. Sick morons...I voted, and of course, manslaughter has 66% of the votes. My reasoning: Haters and people who don't give a crap are voting. GTFO, nobody asked for your stupid opinions.
 
As it relates to the charge I do think 2nd degree implied malice is more appropriate, for a qualified experienced doctor to do what Murrey did, implies that he did not
have the regard for Michael's safety and life that he should.

But if the DA does not feel confident in being able to prove that charge then manslaughter is what it should be, at least they get a conviction.

We don't know if it was deliberate, clearly the evidence is not there to prove it, but Murrey took wreckless to a whole new level when he gave Michael all those drugs, and just how much he explained to Michael about the risk of Propofol is my question, I don't believe Michael would have risked it if he really fully understood.
 
Giant Enemy Cat said:
I've said from the very start that we can't just say Murray murdered Michael...it's a possibility.

Think about 2005, none of us liked people saying Michael was guilty without any evidence or knowing anything about the case, and now some of you are doing the same thing with Murray, which is a double standard.
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Ive come to expect hypocrisy in here. Your right about this.

lada said:
Michael was murdered for his part in ATV, ask La Toya and or Jarmaine, they´ll tell you what´s the problem with ATV catalogue http://www.aishamusic.com/Judiciary_Report/latoya_jackson_sony_murdered_michale_jackson.htm
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Ahh well there you go! Straight from the mouths of Latoya and Jermaine. The two most reliable sources. That shut me up.
 
Manslaughter, as much as I am annoyed that Murray didn't do his job right, I am looking at the reality here. There is no evidance so far that he murdered and you can't judge someone without evidance. If you do then you being hypocritical, because that against everything Michael taught when he was on trail.

For the people arguing: Please can you stop, there is nothing wrong with people's opinions, but the arguing is getting out of hand. MJJC is a place of love not arguments. We should be loving, supporting and repecting each other like Michael always wanted.
 
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stargazer said:
manslaughter, as much as i am annoyed that murray didn't do his job right, i am looking at the reality here. There is no evidance so far that he murdered and you can't judge someone without evidance. If you do then you being hypocritical, because that against everything michael taught when he was on trail.
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thank you!!
 
i don't still know but I provided the link to the voting in some of the several threads with the comment that this voting isn't correct and mean, cause you can choose between manslaughter and murder. But it isn't the queston of murder or manslaughter, but rather of INVOLUNTARY manslaughter this is a BIG difference. That is really very mean and I am wondering once more that so many fans don't figure out that, sorry ...
 
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