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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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This Is Elvis (Two-Disc Special Edition)
The documentary recorded four years after the death of Elvis, and premiered at the Cannes Film Festival, where he delighted audiences and critics. The film begins with the reconstruction of the evening when the Elvis medley under unfortunate circumstances of death, then brings us back to his childhood and describe in detail each and every detail of his private and social life. Until today, many around the world believe that this is the best documentary about a musician who is in many ways changed the musical world.
 
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ivy said:
I watched the DVD sometime back - honestly I can't remember the details.
Overall it's a documentary about Elvis's life. It has scenes shot in Graceland, actual live performances of Elvis and private home movies.

I can't say for sure if there was any conspiracy/ hoax in that movie but it had a reenactment of finding Elvis in the bathroom, so I guess they aren't claiming that he's alive.
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thanks, Ivy. i'm sure Bill wasn't talking hoax when he said this, but i'm curious as to how Michael was influenced by Elvis' life or if he patterned his career in some ways after Elvis...now i've gone VERY curious.
 
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DI, thanks for the links! would get them, for sure, and satisfy my curiosity.

and yes, that is some :bugeyed silhouette, arklove!
 
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Hmmm Miko's "Flowers by Michael" comes to mind.

Odd to give a Florist flowers as a thank you!
 
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sry nvm
 
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Today's (6/4) www.thisisalsoit.com Redirect:
eliza_jesse_benjamin.jpg

This man is called 'Jesse' and is supposed to be Elvis Aron Presley.
 
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I watched This Is Elvis yesterday and I was blown away by the many similarities with MJ! Really, it feels like it's possible to just change the name from Elvis to Michael in most of the movie! Not much to support the hoax theori though, at least not that I noticed.

And I don't think the links should be posted since it's copyrighted and officially released. It's worth buying!
 
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bluetopez said:
Yes, Contradictions because the publicists told Pearl that there was never an open casket at any moment for the family! She was not talking about the private service only but, was talking about at anytime was it open to anyone and she responded NOPE!
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Remember THIS interview La Toya made?

"Michael Jackson's grieving daughter wrapped a heart necklace around his wrist as his body lay in an open coffin.

Paris Jackson, 11, wanted to give the piece of jewelry to her late father when she visited him at Los Angeles' Forest Lawn Cemetery as she wanted to make sure he always had something to remind him of her.

Michael's elder sister La Toya, who witnessed the heartbreaking act during the family's private viewing, said: "Paris told me, 'The heart is in two pieces. I want one half to go to daddy and I will wear the other half forever.'

"She carefully wrapped it around his wrist and said, 'Daddy this is for you. On daddy, it will be blue because he is cold. On me, it's purple. He's so cold, he is so cold. "
 
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Vici said:
Remember THIS interview La Toya made?

"Michael Jackson's grieving daughter wrapped a heart necklace around his wrist as his body lay in an open coffin.

Paris Jackson, 11, wanted to give the piece of jewelry to her late father when she visited him at Los Angeles' Forest Lawn Cemetery as she wanted to make sure he always had something to remind him of her.

Michael's elder sister La Toya, who witnessed the heartbreaking act during the family's private viewing, said: "Paris told me, 'The heart is in two pieces. I want one half to go to daddy and I will wear the other half forever.'

"She carefully wrapped it around his wrist and said, 'Daddy this is for you. On daddy, it will be blue because he is cold. On me, it's purple. He's so cold, he is so cold. "
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Yes this has been discussed here before because we discovered that Paris actually had that necklace before MJ passed.
 
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And what conclusion was drawn then?
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
Today's (6/4) www.thisisalsoit.com Redirect:
eliza_jesse_benjamin.jpg

This man is called 'Jesse' and is supposed to be Elvis Aron Presley.
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WHAT? :lol: The guy's picture blue eyes and Elvis did not have blue eyes. This guy has no physical resemblance with Elvis. :unsure:

TIAI always makes me laugh. :lol:
 
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http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_j...dy-06042010.php

Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale is opening up the gates to Michael Jackson's fans on the anniversary of The King of Pop's death.

Randy Jackson tells X17online exclusively:

"I just had a meeting with Forest Lawn and beginning on June 25, the anniversary of my brother's death, fans will be able to go right up to the mausoleum and drop off flowers and pay their respects. Michael loved his fans, and the family wants to make sure that the fans are able to celebrate his incredible life."
At the 1-year anniversary memorial on June 25, Randy tells X17online that his sister Janet and mom, Katherine will be there. Also attending ... Lisa Marie Presley who last month inspired a flower shop to deliver thousands of sunflowers to Forest Lawn in memory of Jackson.

X17online brought you the exclusive details about Lisa Marie Presley's initial visit to the mausoleum in which she carried in an empty portrait-sized frame filled with sunflowers ... spending over an hour getting the placement just right.

Various groups, like the Justice4MJ fan group consisting of thousands of members, had plans to gather at the mausoleum for the special 1-year anniversary. However, just last month Forest Lawn security had been informed that fans were no longer welcome. Thanks to Michael's youngest brother, that has all changed.

Randy adds, "We are so thankful to know that our brother's fans still love him as much as we do."
 
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~God~Bless~MJ~ said:
http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_j...dy-06042010.php

Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale is opening up the gates to Michael Jackson's fans on the anniversary of The King of Pop's death.

Randy Jackson tells X17online exclusively:

"I just had a meeting with Forest Lawn and beginning on June 25, the anniversary of my brother's death, fans will be able to go right up to the mausoleum and drop off flowers and pay their respects. Michael loved his fans, and the family wants to make sure that the fans are able to celebrate his incredible life."
At the 1-year anniversary memorial on June 25, Randy tells X17online that his sister Janet and mom, Katherine will be there. Also attending ... Lisa Marie Presley who last month inspired a flower shop to deliver thousands of sunflowers to Forest Lawn in memory of Jackson.

X17online brought you the exclusive details about Lisa Marie Presley's initial visit to the mausoleum in which she carried in an empty portrait-sized frame filled with sunflowers ... spending over an hour getting the placement just right.

Various groups, like the Justice4MJ fan group consisting of thousands of members, had plans to gather at the mausoleum for the special 1-year anniversary. However, just last month Forest Lawn security had been informed that fans were no longer welcome. Thanks to Michael's youngest brother, that has all changed.

Randy adds, "We are so thankful to know that our brother's fans still love him as much as we do."
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I always felt this whole situation feels mighty contrived. Lisa Marie's involvement, the sunflowers, Randy's initial tweet saying how he wanted to get the gates opened so fans can visit. Then after his tweets all the fuss from fans stating, well, what's he talkin' about, fans can already go right up to the doors to the Holly Terrace. Then things had to be arranged so it would still seem Randy is helping out, and next we hear, Oh NO! Forest Lawn is taking away the fans' privilege of being able to go up the steps and by the door to MJ's resting place...Oh NO! That once in place, Randy can now deliver this message saying that he succeeded in getting things worked out for fans to come on June 25th and be apart of that day's remembering of Michael right along with some important people in MJ's life.

In other words, what is wanted here, is for lots of fans to show up at Forest Lawn on June 25th and all this hoopla was to ensure it. Sit back folks and enjoy the show. Or so one would think from all of this.


(just want to add I mean no offense towards Randy or Lisa Marie or anyone, just sharing what I have objectively observed, based on actions and responses that bring questions to my mind)
 
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Vici said:
Remember THIS interview La Toya made?

"Michael Jackson's grieving daughter wrapped a heart necklace around his wrist as his body lay in an open coffin.

Paris Jackson, 11, wanted to give the piece of jewelry to her late father when she visited him at Los Angeles' Forest Lawn Cemetery as she wanted to make sure he always had something to remind him of her.

Michael's elder sister La Toya, who witnessed the heartbreaking act during the family's private viewing, said: "Paris told me, 'The heart is in two pieces. I want one half to go to daddy and I will wear the other half forever.'

"She carefully wrapped it around his wrist and said, 'Daddy this is for you. On daddy, it will be blue because he is cold. On me, it's purple. He's so cold, he is so cold. "
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Yes, thank you I know this already! lol

Paris had that necklace before MJ passed even though La toya said she bought it after MJ died! La toya also said that Paris said she would where the other half of the necklace everyday and that isn't true, there are other pics of Paris wearing other necklaces!

La toya always changes her stories when talking about things including the children! She has said that after they saw him at the hospital they didn't cry for him anymore but, in another interview she said they do cry! o_O It shouldn't be that hard to tell the truth, but she seems to have issues with it, even for the simplest of things!!
 
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^Just to be considered, when something falls in the category of a "performance" it is no longer evaluated as "lies" as much as one's "lines" that are used to help move along the story line of the plot of the show. That might be the justification. Everyone needs to evaluate on their own though. Without having seen the whole show from beginning to end, that is hard to do.

What was Machiavelli's philosophy... the end justifies the means?
 
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La Toya seem to have some issues since she can't tell one damn story right. I find some of her stories about Michael or The family either very creepy or just weird. The way she describes things.. wtf. like the way she describes him (or over describes him) after death, looking so good and alive. Sorry! it's weird. it's emotionally cold.. you know.

for me it feels like she doesn't know much but still talks like she's always there around the kids...

Another thing I noticed, in Randy's interview he says he was the one who had to arrange everything.. but on her interviews La Toya says she was in charge. both didn't mention each other like they worked together...

I didn't know Paris had The necklace before... I was very touched hearing this story but you guys say she had it before. can anyone post a pic (if masked)? or just tell me when\the occasion the pic was taken?
 
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InvincibleTal said:
I didn't know Paris had The necklace before... I was very touched hearing this story but you guys say she had it before. can anyone post a pic (if masked)? or just tell me when\the occasion the pic was taken?
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Because of the rules of this forum (which I respect of course) we can not post the pic because it's a photo taken by a pap! But, even if I could I don't know how to post pics yet lol

But, I can describe it for ya and maybe you can find it yourself or someone can send it to u?

Okay, the pic everyone says Paris had the necklace on was taken weeks before 25th. MJ is wearing all black and is coming out of rehearsals for this is it! He has on all black and holding an umbrella with his hair wavy/curly and sun glasses. Prince is wearing a red shirt and Paris a pink jacket with the necklace on! Some media shows showed the pic on TV and it was in magazines because that was the first time MJ was in public with the children faces unmasked (Blanket is not with them by the way) even though there is another shot with prince having on a mask earlier on the same day! Maybe u seen the pic before?
 
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The interview that Pearl Jr gave on the Carlotta Chatwood show about the hoax has been uploaded on pearls Youtube channel. I know some don't like some of the things she said that was allegedly "secretes" and things about MJ kids which I agree with but, in the interview she doesn't mention those things in detail except for saying her reason has to why she reveled the "secretes" whether right or wrong?! Anyways, I'm gonna post the videos here for those who haven't gotten the chance to hear it yet. The show is on the Hoax only and what she says is very interesting, so please hear it! After all it's what this thread was made for right? lol Thanks! I skipped part one cause that's only introductions on who will be on the show and I just want to get to the start of the interview!

Part: 2


Part: 3


Part: 4


Part: 5


Part: 6


Part: 7


Last Part: 8 (even though it will say part 7 it is really part 8 her mistake!)
 
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~God~Bless~MJ~ said:
At the 1-year anniversary memorial on June 25, Randy tells X17online that his sister Janet and mom, Katherine will be there. Also attending ... Lisa Marie Presley who last month inspired a flower shop to deliver thousands of sunflowers to Forest Lawn in memory of Jackson.
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bluetopez said:
The interview that Pearl Jr gave on the Carlotta Chatwood show about the hoax has been uploaded on pearls Youtube channel. I know some don't like some of the things she said that was allegedly "secretes" and things about MJ kids which I agree with but, in the interview she doesn't mention those things in detail except for saying her reason has to why she reveled the "secretes" whether right or wrong?! Anyways, I'm gonna post the videos here for those who haven't gotten the chance to hear it yet. The show is on the Hoax only and what she says is very interesting, so please hear it! After all it's what this thread was made for right? lol Thanks! I skipped part one cause that's only introductions on who will be on the show and I just want to get to the start of the interview!

Part: 2


Part: 3


Part: 4


Part: 5


Part: 6


Part: 7


Last Part: 8 (even though it will say part 7 it is really part 8 her mistake!)
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Thanks! And part 1?
 
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Ashtanga said:
Thanks! And part 1?
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Your welcome! I didn't put part one because it was only introductions of the people that are on the show so I skipped straight to part 2 were the interview starts, to get to it already! tee heet! ;)

Oh and why did Lisa Marie not show up for the memorial? I heard is was because she didn't want media attention....but she will allegedly show up on the 25th at forest lawn...RIGHT?! Like the media won't be there for that....lol
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
Actually Elvis DID have blue eyes.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENAU330&=&q=What+color+eyes+did+Elvis+have%3F&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
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I saw it now. :doh: I'll have to agree with you. :lol:


elvis-portrait2.jpg



But Jesse seems to have eyes more dark. I think.....



bluetopez said:
Your welcome! I didn't put part one because it was only introductions of the people that are on the show so I skipped straight to part 2 were the interview starts, to get to it already! tee heet! ;)
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Thanks! :cheeky:


bluetopez said:
Oh and why did Lisa Marie not show up for the memorial? I heard is was because she didn't want media attention....but she will allegedly show up on the 25th at forest lawn...RIGHT?! Like the media won't be there for that....lol
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Lisa Marie... no comments. -_- But.... I really doubt that the family will be there. I'm sure will be a big mess. The entire press will be there... principally TMZ. :unsure: :doh:


And............


Michael Jackson's legacy continues to live on.

On the one-year anniversary of the King of Pop's death, the Jackson Family Foundation will be presenting "Forever Michael," a red carpet celebration event featuring performances honoring the late singer.

"The vision is to bring together Michael Jackson family members, celebrities, fans, supporters and the community to celebrate and honor his legacy," says VoicePlate Productions, the company producing the June 26 event at the Beverly Hilton Hotel in Beverly Hills.

The party will be open to the public – $500 for VIP tickets and $250 for general admission can be purchased on VoicePlate.com.
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http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2827552&postcount=1

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bluetopez said:
Because of the rules of this forum (which I respect of course) we can not post the pic because it's a photo taken by a pap! But, even if I could I don't know how to post pics yet lol

But, I can describe it for ya and maybe you can find it yourself or someone can send it to u?

Okay, the pic everyone says Paris had the necklace on was taken weeks before 25th. MJ is wearing all black and is coming out of rehearsals for this is it! He has on all black and holding an umbrella with his hair wavy/curly and sun glasses. Prince is wearing a red shirt and Paris a pink jacket with the necklace on! Some media shows showed the pic on TV and it was in magazines because that was the first time MJ was in public with the children faces unmasked (Blanket is not with them by the way) even though there is another shot with prince having on a mask earlier on the same day! Maybe u seen the pic before?
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Oh yeah i know these, I'll check ;D thank you!
 
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Btw when is Murray's trial? Im confused....
 
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lovelymj said:
Btw when is Murray's trial? Im confused....
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There is a hearing on the 14th but, no trial yet! A preliminary hearing I believe is first. That's if the defense is ready for it? BLAH!
 
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