Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

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Do you think Michael would have approved of murray calling Prince to watch him die if he wasn't already dead?

Prince is not listed for show you know.

Yes he is because the chef said he never went up
 
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murray was with mj back in march so how come AEG suddenly hired the same dr that mj was already using LOL this lawsuit has got more holes in it than the titanic.someone needs to tell katherines lawyers mj first met murray back in 06. then again dont. it will be more fun seeing the case torn apart instead. this lawyer is gonna wish he went no where near them
Nice to know Michael's death is providing entertainment for you. this case is part of his death, we don't know all the information concerning his death. There could be information that has been withheld from the public, we will find out in due time.
 
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Yes he is because the chef said he never went up
The chef has said 2 different things. One interview she said prince was called upstairs and she didn't specifiy if he went into the room and in another she said prince was called to the stairs. Either way why was Murray calling for a 12 year old when there were many adults in the house. Latoya also said Prince told her he went upstairs and say things, maybe Prince told his grandmother the same thing.
 
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If he didn't have the right equipment, he SHOULD NOT have administered the propofol. PERIOD.
If he did not have the right equipment, then, why Michael has agreed to do it? Obviously, Michael knew it would be a great risk to his life doing so without the necessary equipment. I do not believe that Michael begged by propofol to Murray. -_-

Well, it has many strange things in this story. :unsure: :scratch:



I did read somewhere where someone mentioned that Murray had been at rehearsals - I don't think they specified which ones.
I vaguely remember Karen Faye saying she saw him once at a rehearsal - although I might be wrong.
Wow, I do not remember that. :bugeyed But I hope that concrete proof that Murray was in rechearsals, APPEAR!!!!!!


This is Arnie Klein's creditor claim
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/1027_klein_jackson_wm.pdf

For June 09 Michael visited him on June 1, 3, 4, 10, 16, and 22nd..
Thanks!

Well, the dates do not matter, we know that Michael was often at the office of Klein. :(



I hope that the truth appears. Why this story is full of holes. :fear: *big sigh*
 
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f he did not have the right equipment, then, why Michael has agreed to do it? Obviously, Michael knew it would be a great risk to his life doing so without the necessary equipment. I do not believe that Michael begged by propofol to Murray.
the equipment request was for london he was not requesting it in L.A. it can be easily argued it had nothing to do with the diprivan
 
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Nice to know Michael's death is providing entertainment for you.
no seeing the jackson shown up is what im intrested in. seeing as they have no problem selling out michael and helping murray get off. but i guess its all about them to some ppl

The only good thing is Michael is not here to see this.
so true. problem being his kids are. cant wait to see them on oprah in 10 years saying how druggged up daddy was and how clueless he was. not clueless enought to tell his fmailywereto go inreagrds to money making scams with rowe. funny how he was fit enough to do that
 
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Wow. Wishing them the best luck in this case. Sending love and support their way.

I just saw the article on the AOL homepage and it linked back to TMZ. The part that stuck out to me most was how Prince Michael "witnessed Michael suffering and dying." That's just absolutely terrible and hurtful reading that. :no: They say the suit alleges that it caused emotional distress on him but does anyone know if this part is true?
 
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The only good thing is Michael is not here to see this. And if he was so damn bad how you figure he could do the AGE shows

u know Im glad Mike wasnt here to see a lot of stuff thats been pulled since june 25 2009, all of them should be ashamed off themselves, . it can only get better though, there is not much left to do , they have pretty muched crossed all moral lines.
 
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It is mind boggling to me, to see how many of you have convicted Murray without having all the evidence.
We didn't like it when they did that to Michael, why would you do it to someone else? Did you ever consider that it is possible that AEG had Murray under control financially as well and that perhaps they are more at fault in Michael's death then the doctor? Maybe he was just following orders?
At the present time, we just don't have enough facts to make that call one way or the other.
I say bravo to Mrs. Jackson for trying to get to the truth.

Murray was still the doctor who injected the fatal dose. Even if AEG played a huge role murray directly killed Michael so he should be convicted, no one held a gun to his ehad.

Don't compare this to Michael's case, michael's case was about accusations of child abuse with no proof. Murray already admitted to giving Michael the propofol and benzos which killed him.
 
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Do you think Michael would have approved of murray calling Prince to watch him die if he wasn't already dead?

Prince is not listed for show you know.

I believe Michael would want Prince protected and shielded from this no matter what. :no: Michael wanted his children to just be kids. No way would he want them dragged into this. Poor Michael... O.M.G. I feel like it's 06/25/09 all over. I didn't think my heart could break again:cry:
 
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murray needed a major witness to say he was trying to save mj thats why hecalled prince. he wanted to make it seem real even though he knew mj was long gone as proven already
 
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u know Im glad Mike wasnt here to see a lot of stuff thats been pulled since june 25 2009, all of them should be ashamed off themselves, . it can only get better though, there is not much left to do , they have pretty muched crossed all moral lines.

i doubt he would be surprised. he knew the deal
 
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By the time all is said and done, MJ is going to be painted as a stomach crawling got to have a propofol fix addict.

If Katherine can blame AEG for being complicit and negligent, of course MJ is going to be blamed as well. He was 50, not an infant. They're going to rake him over the coals.

i don't care if you're fifty or fifty thousand years old. whether it be Elvis, or Michael or any other artist..it's extremely hard for one person to go up against a whole lot of 'handlers' coming at him at the same time. those who want to rake MJ over the coals are envious of him, always have been, and always have it in for him for no reason at all.
 
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this is all so horrific. God rest MJ's soul.
 
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I just hope Mother Jackson Wins for not for her suffering but for Michael's kids as well. Prince has suffered being there as wittness to His Father' dying.It's just too much for all of us to bare. Michael has been Used,Extorted and Harassed by these people. I want swift justice for these people to pay the Jackson family what is due to them and for the ones responsible to be put in jail so we all can live in peace.
 
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Wow. Wishing them the best luck in this case. Sending love and support their way.

I just saw the article on the AOL homepage and it linked back to TMZ. The part that stuck out to me most was how Prince Michael "witnessed Michael suffering and dying." That's just absolutely terrible and hurtful reading that. :no: They say the suit alleges that it caused emotional distress on him but does anyone know if this part is true?
Other family members have said he did witness Murray give Michael cpr and last year Latoya said the kids were in therapy. It's horrible to think Murray would even call him to witness that. I think he called hime so that he could show prince that he was "trying" to save his father.
 
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my heart hurts. everything is so horrible. I still can't believe we live in this reality.

I just want someone to invent that damn time machine already so that we could go back and undo all this.
 
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Yes he is because the chef said he never went up

Despite of what the chef said I tend to believe /think that Prince has actually gone up and seen things.

When DA criminally charged Murray they also created a "suspected child abuse report" involving the IVM charges against Murray. The code they mention also covers emotional suffering inflicted on a child.

As this report is tied to the IVM charge, I tend to think that in fact Prince (and/or other children) witnessed the event and as a result showed signs of emotional suffering. That also shows that the some or all of the children have been interviewed and this "suspected" report is filed based on the interviewers observation of the children.
 
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no seeing the jackson shown up is what im intrested in. seeing as they have no problem selling out michael and helping murray get off. but i guess its all about them to some ppl

so true. problem being his kids are. cant wait to see them on oprah in 10 years saying how druggged up daddy was and how clueless he was. not clueless enought to tell his fmailywereto go inreagrds to money making scams with rowe. funny how he was fit enough to do that

Now that I've thought about it, I don't think this will get Murray off. Murray gave MJ the drugs that killed him, he admitted to giving the drugs that killed him and that's the end of that. Murray KILLED Michael Jackson. Hopefully a jury would be able to see that and make the right decision.

What I AM disturbed about, however, is the fact that this family is pretty much giving Murray a defence. This is the equivalent of me being drunk and running over someone in the middle of the night, and the family blaming the victim for being out so late, the family blaming his boss for overworking him that night and causing him to be out so late. It's the shifting of the blame that's helping Murray. If the family doesn't show that they care about what happens to Murray, then the DA isn't going to care either.
 
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yes, i think Prince went upstairs, too. sadly :(
 
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This is Arnie Klein's creditor claim
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/1027_klein_jackson_wm.pdf

For June 09 Michael visited him on June 1, 3, 4, 10, 16, and 22nd.

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Thanks for this link. It confirms that Michael was getting Botox to look his best for the concert.

So why did AEG told him to stop seeing Klein? Was there interaction between Botox drugs and Sleep drugs?:scratch:

And seriously, it's normal to be disoriented after taking valiums and what not. Anybody who takes sleeping aid will tell you that it's almost impossible to work productively the following day. You're just too groggy.
 
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Despite of what the chef said I tend to believe /think that Prince has actually gone up and seen things.

When DA criminally charged Murray they also created a "suspected child abuse report" involving the IVM charges against Murray. The code they mention also covers emotional suffering inflicted on a child.

As this report is tied to the IVM charge, I tend to think that in fact Prince (and/or other children) witnessed the event and as a result showed signs of emotional suffering. That also shows that the some or all of the children have been interviewed and this "suspected" report is filed based on the interviewers opinion.

why do u think they didnt charge him with this though? would it be out of the ordinary to add such a charge? putting aside the D.A not giving a dam generally anyway.or did jr not go upstairs?

Now that I've thought about it, I don't think this will get Murray off. Murray gave MJ the drugs that killed him, he admitted to giving the drugs that killed him and that's the end of that. Murray KILLED Michael Jackson. Hopefully a jury would be able to see that and make the right decision.
well we know its gonna be murrays main defence so what they are doing is helping him in that sense.if the gen public sees his own family calling him this that and the other they are gonna believe it.they have no clue about motives etc.all it takes is for one jurror to thin he was a druggie he asked for it. murray was caught between a rock and hard palce. we already know the public believe every bit of crap about mj. some wont even care and think it was justice for 03 93. this is what we are dealing with
 
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So why did AEG told him to stop seeing Klein? Was there interaction between Botox drugs and Sleep drugs?
they didnt. there was a meeting in early june between murray philips etc where they were concerned about mjs weight. this lawsuit is claiming that meeting was telling mj to stop seeing klien and (most important bit) start seeing murray who had been brought in by AEG to treat mj. we know that is factually false. murrays was working with mj at least in march and was prescribing to him in dec 08 and first met mj in 06.so that claim in the lawsuit is a provern lie which then brings into doubt that that meeting ever took place interms of what was said
 
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Murray was in rechearsals? Well, nobody TII team said nothing about it in the numerous interviews they gave. Very, very, very strange.

Could it be because of some confidentiality agreement? :unsure:
 
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i don't care if you're fifty or fifty thousand years old. whether it be Elvis, or Michael or any other artist..it's extremely hard for one person to go up against a whole lot of 'handlers' coming at him at the same time. those who want to rake MJ over the coals are envious of him, always have been, and always have it in for him for no reason at all.

It was Doctor Conrad Murray who admitted injecting MJ with various benzos and propofol. I don't care if there were a hundred handlers telling him what to do. He's the doctor. Safeguard your patient. Don't give him lethal medication and leave the room to make some phone calls. Murray was a negligent quack whose case is going to be bolstered by claims that AEG needed to look after MJ like he was some kind of mindless credent.
 
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it s mind boggling to me that people keep comparing Michael's trial with Murray's trial.

Michael was accused of something just by words and those accusations needed to be proved right before he would be named guilty. Until then he was supposed to be treated as innocent. And then he was proven innocent in court.

Murray's case is competely different. He was a doctor and he had a patient. And his patient died while under his care. And the coroner said the cause of death was the medications that the doctor gave the patient. And the doctor admitted giving those medications to him! He is guilty. It's only the degree of guilt that should be determined (like whether it's IM or second degree). That's of course unless it's really some sort of conspiracy and Murray is covering for someone else. And in this case Murray is quilty of withholding information. No matter how you are looking at this case Murray is guilty, one way or the other.

If he was following orders it doesn't excuse him. If they were forcing him to do that to Michael, he should have gone to the police.

What proof do you have that it was even Murray that gave Michael the fatal dose? Do you know who else was in the house? Murray said he gave a Michael a low dose of propofol yet he was swimming in it. I am not saying that Murray will end up being guilt free but he is, as all people are, innocent until proven guilty. We do not yet have that proof, only speculation and hearsay dished out by the media.
 
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why do u think they didnt charge him with this though? would it be out of the ordinary to add such a charge? putting aside the D.A not giving a dam generally anyway.or did jr not go upstairs?

well we know its gonna be murrays main defence so what they are doing is helping him in that sense.if the gen public sees his own family calling him this that and the other they are gonna believe it.they have no clue about motives etc.all it takes is for one jurror to thin he was a druggie he asked for it. murray was caught between a rock and hard palce. we already know the public believe every bit of crap about mj. some wont even care and think it was justice for 03 93. this is what we are dealing with
Katherine's lawsuit doesn't call Michael a druggie. I wish fans could see things objectively when it comes to the family and not paint everything they do as wrong. Katherine's lawsuit clearly shows why Michael was pressured by AEG and how AEG and Murray conspired against Michael. That's not throwing Michael under a bus and saying he is not capable.
 
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Whoa!
 
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Other family members have said he did witness Murray give Michael cpr and last year Latoya said the kids were in therapy. It's horrible to think Murray would even call him to witness that. I think he called hime so that he could show prince that he was "trying" to save his father.

That must have been immensely traumatic for him to witness. No child should ever be put in a situation like that. :(
 
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