New Unreleased MJ Track "Opis None" = Remix of "Destiny"

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...its awful.... how can one think that we-fans will buy this ****... as something great...?
 
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It doesn't even sound like a coherent song. What a terrible, terrible remix.
 
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i dunno if its allowed i dont wanna get in trouble lol
can somebody ask any of the staff if i can share it ?

I don't think any staff are online right now, so maybe it can wait till later or tomorrow, but I'm glad you grabbed it. Did you record the stream as played through your sound card? I don't think it should be a problem since it's not offered for sale anywhere, but you might want to wait until it's okay-ed esp since things are happening so fast in the past few days!
 
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That does it. I've had it with all the insanity. I don't blame Katherine for this as much as I blame the people who are talking in her ear. What are they trying to prove with all this crap? I'm attempting to be nice here. But really, this is getting ridiculous and disgusting.
 
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I actually am starting to think it's not Katherine behind all this negative crap....but JOE!

Joe is behind it for sure, but Katherine is not a helpless puppet. She could stop this madness if she wanted to..... I'm massively disappointed in her, sorry.
 
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The "300 unreleased tracks" that Henry Vaccaro / Howard Mann have been bragging about for years, and of which Henry Vaccaro tried to illegally sell under the table against court orders several years ago, are almost entirely nothing more than audio tapes from the Jacksons Variety Show recordings, not new or unreleased songs of any significant value. This is not the first time he's 'remixed' a known song and tried to cast it off as a new song, and in the process ruined it entirely. I haven't listened to the latest, but a few years back he demoed a few songs he claimed were unreleased in attempts of finding a buyer--they were really just excerpts from the Jackson Variety Show and a botched remix of another released song.

Again, I am sickened that Katherine Jackson (and family?) has gotten so caught up in the Howard Mann / Henry Vaccaro money-making schemes that she's actively encouraging negative publicity surrounding the new album and creating controversy where there shouldn't be.

I don't understand what's going on and I've given up trying to. That Jacksons Secret Vault site is a mess. The only Jackson I saw on there was Michael. In fact, I believe the home page is called Michael Jackson's secret vault or something to that effect. They're selling merchandise with Michael's image only, this must be in violation of his estate's ownership of his image and licensing. There's bound to be lawsuits from all of this and the truly sad part is that MJ's estate may be sued for this fiasco and he legally fought to stop Vaccaro from exploiting him. So many people, including family members, have talked about all the "snakes" and "evil" people that surrounded MJ in his later years. Well, it seems like his mother has embarked in a business venture with a few of those "snakes". This is one of many reasons why I avoid most MJ news and discussions.
 
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What are the Jacksons doing? Do they want this Mann person to ruin a legacy built on MJ's pain & talent?

Why can't her kids step in for her?

I know badmouthing Katherine is frown upon, but truly we have to stop & ask the question,isn't she as bad as Joe?

She is. Her ways are more smooth than Joseph's but she is. I'm sorry to say this because I know how hard Michael tried to put her on some kind of pedestal, but sorry, Michael your mom is far from being the "saint" you imagined her to be.

I'm so sorry that this beautiful child that Michael was (inside, outside) had to grow up in such a family. I can only hope his kids picked up enough good things from Michael to not to turn like the rest of the family when they grow up. Unfortunately they are still very young and impressionable.
 
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She is. Her ways are more smooth than Joseph's but she is. I'm sorry to say this because I know how hard Michael tried to put her on some kind of pedestal, but sorry, Michael your mom is far from being the "saint" you imagined her to be.

I'm so sorry that this beautiful child that Michael was (inside, outside) had to grow up in such a family. I can only hope his kids picked up enough good things from Michael to not to turn like the rest of the family when they grow up. Unfortunately they are still very young and impressionable.

I can't help but wonder, what would MJ do? What would he think of his mother...I know he said she disappointed him at times, but he held her in such high esteem, it's just sad to see she can't live up to his ideal. Maybe it is best, he never got to witness this. It would probably break his spirit even more.

It is best he left this world believing his mother was perfect...even though she has proven these past 17 months, she is far from it.
 
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I can't help but wonder, what would MJ do? What would he think of his mother...I know he said she disappointed him at time, but he held he in such high esteem, it's just sad to see she can't live up to his ideal. Maybe it is best, he never got to witness this. It would probably break his spirit even more.

It is best he left this world believing his mother was perfect...even know she has proven these past 17 months, she is far from it.

To be honest I don't think Michael thought his mother was perfect. I think he knew her well. (Of course in public he won't talk about her shortcomings.) But he probably would have never expected her to do this, otherwise the he would have left the kids to someone else.
 
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listening to the track Katherine released. something crazy is going on. it's obviously a horrible Destiny remix. the lyrics are from Destiny.

I am really pissed off the family is messing with Michael's release when all they should do is SUPPORT it! I mean WTF!
 
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listening to the track Katherine released. something crazy is going on. it's obviously a horrible Destiny remix. the lyrics are from Destiny.

I am really pissed off the family is messing with Michael's release when all they should do is SUPPORT it! I mean WTF!

I EXPECT IT TO GET WORST.

Someone said the family probably wants to corner Sony & the estate into paying them...(basically the family & Howard Mann are blackmailing the estate into giving them money for those 300 tracks...otherwise they will keep releasing them and sabotage the new Sony album).

It's all mind game..the fans & the kids are caught in the middle.
 
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Sounds like a remix.
Anyway, I think it's a little bit unfair and nonsense to release an unreleased song of Michael now that the promotion of MICHAEL is started. :scratch:
 
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FYI: D.I. placed a rip in 2000 Watts.

EDIT---- right below!
 
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Opis None - Michael Jackson
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5058VF60

Funny how the Sony song sounds more authentic than the jacksonsecretvaults song

Out of 300 unreleased MJ songs & Katherine picks this? WTF?
 
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Anyway, I think it's a little bit unfair and nonsense to release an unreleased song of Michael now that the promotion of MICHAEL is started. :scratch:

Its not - unfair - its a pure (PR) agenda how to exploit the official album promo for these ridiculous and outrageous attempts to get attention and money for Mann and Joe Jackson from other than an official source - MJ Estate/Sony.

Its not - coincidence, but a calculated agenda.
 
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Out of 300 unreleased MJ songs & Katherine picks this? WTF?

IMO, its not Katherine who runs the matters... :no:
She maybe even doesnt know about the "so.called unreleased songs", or doesnt know that person who is behind this ... and how he is totally destroying MJs music legacy and media support....

Its like with Mjs kids in Oprah....

BTW, isnt it OPUS None?
 
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What in the world is going on? A new album coming-GREAT but what is this song all about?
 
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BTW, isnt it OPUS None?

No its OPIS NONE.

The only thing I can make out is "CONFUSION"......no shit! Thats an understatement.

And the statement says Mrs Jackson. It gives Katherines approval.
 
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Can someone fill me in on what's happening, I lost track. Did katherine not realize what she was doing? maybe she thought she was doing something nice for the fans? Or are they trying to uproot the excitement about the new album and trying to take the attention away from it?? I constantly find myself trying to justify her behavior because Michael talked so highly of her, but sometime I can't help but wonder what really is going on.. I don't know how to feel
 
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whao,am sd disappointed in katherine,I just cant beleive a mother can sabotage her son's legacy because of money.MJ am sorry you had to go through this,no wonder he avoided them like plague
 
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^^ sometimes a picture (or a smiley) is worth a thousand words!!!
 
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I am really freaking out about this. I didn't think Katherine would go that far. I wanted to believe at first that she was confused and didn't understand the big picture, but how long does it take to get the information?? Katherine had a lot of time. So being confused is not an excuse any more! How can they mess with Michael's album? It's the worst thing they could do. Finally, Michael has a good publicity all around, everyone is waiting for beautiful music from him, everyone is ready to celebrate his legacy. and HIS OWN FAMILY is trying to ruin it. what's going on in this world???

every minute I love Michael more and more and I understand him and his choices of avoiding his family more and more. what did he do to deserve all this? He was a GOOD PERSON!

I really hope the Estate steps up and sues them. I support the Estate 1000%
 
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Did katherine not realize what she was doing? maybe she thought she was doing something nice for the fans?
In my opinion it would have been nice from her (or whoever granted permission to share the song) to do that weeks ago, not now with the promotion of the new album going on.
Or are they trying to uproot the excitement about the new album and trying to take the attention away from it??
Yes, maybe it's this. Dunno really what to think about it.
First Jackie's new single since ages he hadn't released anything, then Jackson5 inspired clothes collection (launched yesterday), now this unreleased song from the Vaccaro's collection.
It seems someone (hopefully not the Jackson family themeselves :doh:) really wants to take advantage of Michael's new album promotion (including Oprah with her interview with Katherine...on air on Nov. 8th when Breaking News will be premiered...what a coincidence!).
 
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they are using mrs jackson as a puppet. it's gotten totally obvious. just look at the video advertising that book, as streamed on the jacksonsecretvault website. one can tell that katherine has no clue. it hurts watching this. the whole site is a product of greed and bad taste. totally creepy, totally smells like joe jackson.

what a mess. that remix thing is a declaration of war fired at sony. i wonder what sony will do.

what an irony after all that that company his to step in against mrs and mr jackson to save michael's legacy.
 
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LOL. This is ludicrous. They expect us to believe this is an authentic unreleased MJ song? Oh yeah.... really sounds like it.

What a mess.
 
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O.M.G.T.M.Z. :rolleyes:
 
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Just another thought...

Do they really think THIS is going to take away the impact of the new album?? That family is so out of touch with reality it's quite scary.

Oh yeah, I'm not remotely bothered about hearing "Breaking News" on Monday having heard this wonderful treasure from Katherine Jackson.
 
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they are using mrs jackson as a puppet. it's gotten totally obvious. just look at the video advertising that book, as streamed on the jacksonsecretvault website. one can tell that katherine has no clue. it hurts watching this. the whole site is a product of greed and bad taste. totally creepy, totally smells like joe jackson.

what a mess. that remix thing is a declaration of war fired at sony. i wonder what sony will do.

what an irony after all that that company his to step in against mrs and mr jackson to save michael's legacy.

Sony don't need to do anything. Do you really think they're going to feel threatened by that ghastly remix?

It's an embarassment to the Jackson family and will have 0% impact on Michael's album.
 
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