Michael Jackson feat. 50 cent - MONSTER - its the real deal says 50 -READ!

So you're saying that everyone that knew about the Jacksons' point of view didn't think about the song possibly being fake when first listening to "Breaking News"? I really doubt that.
A lot of people on this board don't seem to like the Jackson family...I don't think many took them seriously at all.

I do remember like one person saying it wasn't MJ on Breaking News when the snippet was released, simply because the "oooh" "didn't sound like him". That was stupid. Other than that, pretty much everyone was excited to hear it.
 
I just heard the whole "Monster" song in full without the rap (which was only added to the the song anyways) and only the end is where I think MJ appears! Sound like the same person in BN and I don't think BN is MJ, so yea! SMH
 
I'm not saying people were brainwashed, I'm saying that the thought of a fake MJ song was made available days before one of the tracks called into question was released. I think quite a few people at least thought "Isn't this a track someone said was fake?" or something along those lines.

I think when fans are about to listen to a new track, they WANT it to be MJ, we're excited. I knew about the controversy before I listened, but I was hoping they were wrong. I heard the first 5 seconds of vocals and thought "what the hell?"....I spent the next 10 minutes trying to convince myself that it could be MJ, but that just wasn't washing.

So I think the brainwashing thing is a stretch too far...

who said you cannot express your opinions? I definitely didn't.

Just asking the question. Many people on these forums have insinuated this, so I'm just clarifying :)
 
The 3T;s twitter and the person that said that to "oooo" in the snippet of Breaking News wasnt Michael Jackson ruined the new album. Its sad but true, cuz that brainwashed a lot of fans ... its sad.
 
Yes, I also remember that.

Well, I have to go to bed because I MAY have school tomorrow, depending on how bad the snow is, so I'll leave one closing thought:

Are you seriously saying that there is no way whatsoever that it's him? If so, then if evidence is presented eventually that shows that it's him, doesn't that make it seem like the fanbase would owe the Cascios a big apology? I'm fairly close-minded, but I'd never completely close-up an option. If there was concrete evidence that it wasn't him, I'd be inclined to believe that. but as it stands, there is evidence presented by SONY and the Estate, saying that 6 people that MJ trusted EXTREMELY well said it's him. If that was false, then the aforementioned organizations would be in a very tight legal bind.
 
So you're saying that everyone that knew about the Jacksons' point of view didn't think about the song possibly being fake when first listening to "Breaking News"? I really doubt that.

I doubt that too - and at first it was Breaking News and then slowly turned into "the Cascio songs", as far as I remember even on Twitter (family member tweets), not sure anymore, but didn't they first start with "BN is fake" and later it turned into "the Cascio songs" (even before people had heard the other 2 or 3)? And that's when it also turned from "BN is fake" to "the Cascio songs are fake" on the boards? Which later turned into hate against the Cascio family on the boards.

This is another thing, I keep asking myself if they actually have a problem with the songs or with the Cascio family for some reason. There could be some kind of animosity between the Cascio family and some parts of the Jackson family? And certain posts on Twitter turned it from "some Jacksons against the Cascios" into "the fans against the Cascios".
 
Yes, I also remember that.

Well, I have to go to bed because I MAY have school tomorrow, depending on how bad the snow is, so I'll leave one closing thought:

Are you seriously saying that there is no way whatsoever that it's him? If so, then if evidence is presented eventually that shows that it's him, doesn't that make it seem like the fanbase would owe the Cascios a big apology? I'm fairly close-minded, but I'd never completely close-up an option. If there was concrete evidence that it wasn't him, I'd be inclined to believe that. but as it stands, there is evidence presented by SONY and the Estate, saying that 6 people that MJ trusted EXTREMELY well said it's him. If that was false, then the aforementioned organizations would be in a very tight legal bind.
For all the songs I think are fake, I'm leaving about a 10% chance of them actually being MJ, 6% of that is down to it possibly being him but having his vocals completely warped with editing, and the other 4% is the possibility that it could be him experimenting with a drastically different vocal style.
 
The 3T;s twitter and the person that said that to "oooo" in the snippet of Breaking News wasnt Michael Jackson ruined the new album. Its sad but true, cuz that brainwashed a lot of fans ... its sad.

Its not true at all. Is it so hard to believe that we dont think its him just because we dont hear him on the songs? Its not really that hard.

Thats like me saying you all just WANT to believe its Michael on these songs because you waited so long for new music and dont want to feel dissapointed. So you're trying to convince yourselves its him.

I doubt that too - and at first it was Breaking News and then slowly turned into "the Cascio songs", as far as I remember even on Twitter (family member tweets), not sure anymore, but didn't they first start with "BN is fake" and later it turned into "the Cascio songs" (even before people had heard the other 2 or 3)? And that's when it also turned from "BN is fake" to "the Cascio songs are fake" on the boards? Which later turned into hate against the Cascio family on the boards.

I'm trying my best to remain calm here.

Did you even see the boards up until Breaking News came out? Did you even read them at all?

We were all ANTI JACKSON FAMILY. None of us could understand why they were saying these songs were fake. We certainly NEVER said Breaking News was fake before hearing it. Quite the opposite. So please get your facts straight.
 
When 3T and family said new tracks arent MJ, I scoffed at them thinking they were crazy. First line of BN, I owed em an apology.

Exactly, when i was playing breaking news for the first time, i just wanted to see how it went, the melody and so forth, I was thinking, oh those are lovely harmonies in the strings at the begining. Then it started to build how it did in the preview snippet, i got a huge rush of exitement, first line as soon as i heard whoever it was say michael's own name, and the way whoever it was said Jackson i cringed, emotionally dead, the rest was history. I had forgotten the fake vocals story completely, i was just so exited to hear how the track went, get the feel of it at all, but as soon as whoever it was opened their mouth the vocals shot to my attention, it was screaming at me that this was not our Michael. I felt the emotion in his live this is it vocals, he didn't loose that skill, how strange that it should be absent from just these particular tracks, especially breaking news and monster. The vibratto just isn't right, the hamonies don't make that classic michael jackson harmony sound, the way they kind of shiver and swell. And the lead vocal is just......... well the pronunciation is just not the way he says things, the vibratto isn't right, the phrasing is careless, even in demos MJ always had good phrasing. And lastly the composition is terrible, MJ would never go for those harmonic choices, when asked about Britney or justin timberlake by interviewers his response was always very polite and humble and he enjoyed working with them, but you can tell musically he wasn't interested in that kind of pop, which is what these new tracks are like. I've listed to Monster once and that was enough, i didn't feel i needed to listen to it again, it left me cold, wasn't interested in it any more. No MJ song ever in his entire back catalogue including leaked demos has ever given me that feeling. I've listened to slave to the rhythm and BG 70 times combined since yesterday, monster has had just 1 play. It's just such a travesty, i can't believe fans believe this is him. It's a bit frustrating when i read stuff like, at first i thought it wasn't him, but now i think it is. What's changed there mind? well the track hasn't changed at all the vocals are exactly the same. All thats happened is more people have being trying to prove to them it is him, and they are going against there own mind in following the official word, surely your own mind is the only thing you can be sure of in this life, it's the only thing thats really reality. The phrase 'always trust your instincts' wasn't invented for nothing, and it most definantly applies here. What a nightmare. I'm just going to try and enjoy what is him singing.
 
I'm trying my best to remain calm here.

Did you even see the boards up until Breaking News came out? Did you even read them at all?

We were all ANTI JACKSON FAMILY. None of us could understand why they were saying these songs were fake. We certainly NEVER said Breaking News was fake before hearing it. Quite the opposite. So please get your facts straight.

No no, you are right, I'm not a "real" fan. When I see some people posting on here though who claim to be "real" fans, I'm glad I'm not. Let's see ... I know that the Jackson fans never really liked the Jackson family or some members of the Jackson family. For all kinds of right and probably wrong reasons too. That doesn't mean those tweets didn't influence people - don't think of pink elephants ... oops - apart from the fact that I - generally speaking - don't like the attitude that you have to be "anti" whoever to be pro MJ or a fan of his music.

My observations about this situation have nothing to do with reading the boards before BN came out. Since I only made observations about the BN/Cascio discussion.
 
We certainly NEVER said Breaking News was fake before hearing it. Quite the opposite. So please get your facts straight.

Not true

I actually knew right away as soon as I heard the teaser for Breaking News that its gonna be a flop, it was way overproduced, I must admit though i was expecting good Michael vocals with bad music production. The day that Breaking News came out, I couldn't believe what i was hearing.

And hold tight Im going to upload some scandalous facts about the Monster song, which everyone can verify by comparison, of how the Cascio track is produced.
 
People who think it is Michael are not going to convince anyone who thinks it is not Michael. People who think it's not Michael are not going to convince the other side either. There is no winning here. The joy of the album experience has been ruined for everybody no matter what you believe and feel.

I don't know about anyone else but I am tired the constant running around in circles. The truth is none of us know for sure either way. No proof either way. We were not in the studio when this album was made. We weren't with Michael to see him work when he worked on them. We are just going by our feeling and opinions. I know I can't say how I feel is a 100% right and what I am saying is fact.

I thought this album would bring us together but it's not. That's sad. I wish Michael was here. I miss him.
 
People who think it is Michael are not going to convince anyone who thinks it is not Michael. People who think it's not Michael are not going to convince the other side either. There is no winning here. The joy of the album experience has been ruined for everybody no matter what you believe and feel.

I don't know about anyone else but I am tired the constant running around in circles. The truth is none of us know for sure either way. No proof either way. We were not in the studio when this album was made. We weren't with Michael to see him work when he worked on them. We are just going by our feeling and opinions. I know I can't say how I feel is a 100% right and what I am saying is fact.

I thought this album would bring us together but it's not. That's sad. I wish Michael was here. I miss him.
Exactly.
 
I tahnk the person who sent me monster.... but this is not mike, clearly. I mean it sounds like him but not him, his vibrato is not the one we here in his Invincible album or in TII the movie. It sounds like a young wanna be Mike, but it's too much like Kkyhu, and BN(which I love) but it has those lil' snippets of him from other songs that I don't think he would've done(2bad). know what.... I just looked up Jason malachi's don't walk away and listen to the first minute of it literally..... and this is him. Sorry to say, but this.is.Jason.Malachi. listen to that song, his vibrato in it and his pitch and look back at monster... it's Jason.
 
I just looked up Jason malachi's don't walk away and listen to the first minute of it literally..... and this is him. Sorry to say, but this.is.Jason.Malachi. listen to that song, his vibrato in it and his pitch and look back at monster... it's Jason.

I said the same thing but got shot down in flames.
 
No no, you are right, I'm not a "real" fan..

Ok? Cant really see how you gathered that from what I said. But ok.

Not true

I actually knew right away as soon as I heard the teaser for Breaking News that its gonna be a flop, it was way overproduced, I must admit though i was expecting good Michael vocals with bad music production. The day that Breaking News came out, I couldn't believe what i was hearing.

And hold tight Im going to upload some scandalous facts about the Monster song, which everyone can verify by comparison, of how the Cascio track is produced.

Ok, the vast majority of the forum were pretty much anti Jackson family and didnt think the songs would end up being fake.

Yes. :innocent:

So for you, its fine to believe that we have all been brainwashed. Despite us telling you otherwise. You refuse to believe it. No matter how many times we tell you that isnt the case.

But for us to to believe the songs arent Michael, despite the Estate and others telling us otherwise, isnt ok?

Alright then.

See, I was under the impression that we allways had to believe what we were told from now on......:scratch:
 
Monster Leak

So... it's out there. So far I've only seen it on one blog though and NO ONE has been discussing it. Personally, fake or not, i think its a pretty fantastic track other than the fact that its about the Pap.

I mean really sony? Is the whole album going to

Michael Jackson Loves to Love
Michael Jackson Loves to Love
Michael Jackson Loves to Love
Michael Jackson Hates the Paparazi
Michael Jackson Loves to Love
Michael Jackson Loves to Love
Still Hates the Paparazi
Michael Jackson Loves to Love
Old Song
Michael Jackson Loves to Love

Also, I feel that the song will suffer from the addition of 50 Cent, though I could be wrong...
 
Does someone want to send this to me so i dont have to try ripping it from the stream I found?
 
sounds like a young wanna be Mike
It's because they screwed up the pitch (maybe the hackers did this to throw us off in the "leaked" version). Knock it down a semi-tone and it sounds exactly like the voice in every MJ song I've ever heard.
 
Ok? Cant really see how you gathered that from what I said. But ok.

Well, you asking me if I even read the boards before BN was released ... like it's required to have been here posting and/or lurking forever or my comments get thrown out. My observations, but that's just me and my opinion, is that some Jacksons have some beef with the Cascio family and that's why they started this via Twitter, etc. That's my impression. I explained in my other post why I'm getting this impression.
 
Well, you asking me if I even read the boards before BN was released ... like it's required to have been here posting and/or lurking forever or my comments get thrown out. My observations, but that's just me and my opinion, is that some Jacksons have some beef with the Cascio family and that's why they started this via Twitter, etc. That's my impression. I explained in my other post why I'm getting this impression.

No, your were talking as if you knew what was going on here before Breaking News came out and what you said was completely untrue.

So I asked if you were even reading the boards at the time, because if you werent, you shouldn't be assuming what was being said.

If you were here and reading the boards, you would know that none of us were saying it was fake before we heard the song. We were pretty much anti Jackson family. I cant believe i've just said that again.
 
I said the same thing but got shot down in flames.

It's because they screwed up the pitch (maybe the hackers did this to throw us off in the "leaked" version). Knock it down a semi-tone and it sounds exactly like the voice in every MJ song I've ever heard.

Doubt it. I have an HD version and I'm pretty sure the version on the "Michael" album will sound the same. I still know it's Jason. Even with every other song, when listening to it, there shouldn't arise within one's self doubt after hearing that first verse of,"is this really mike?". Even before being introduced to any controversy, when I first heard BN I was like what the? And I even asked myself, I wonder what the guys over at MJJ think about this... it can't be good. I came here that morning the song was released expecting chaos and that's what I found, organized forum chaos. With dykwyca, there was no doubt... it WAS THE MAN MJ, but Monster.... I was like huh? This aint MJ, but this is JM!!!! Just listen to dont walk away by JM, you'll see. Open your ears brothers and sisters!!!
 
Ok, the vast majority of the forum were pretty much anti Jackson family and didnt think the songs would end up being fake.

a little correction here : yes it's true that we have a good amount of people against the some members of Jackson family but not all. 3T is actually quite liked and supported among the members.

Personally when I heard 3T's comments I thought "could it be?", but for example if the same comments came from Joe (given the history of his comments) I wouldn't even entertain the idea.
 
So? The reception from fans, non-fans and critics generally wasn't very positive.

You're right. Critics have always been favorable, especially with songs that attack the press. And I think I am not a fan because I like the music. As for non-fans, if I answer you I would be banned. LOL

So for you, its fine to believe that we have all been brainwashed. Despite us telling you otherwise. You refuse to believe it. No matter how many times we tell you that isnt the case.

Maybe if you would stop telling us what to think over and over again, we could see the light. LOL
 
a little correction here : yes it's true that we have a good amount of people against the some members of Jackson family but not all. 3T is actually quite liked among the members.

Personally when I heard 3T's comments I thought "could it be?", but for example if the same comments came from Joe (given the history of his comments) I wouldn't even entertain the idea.

What I meant was, for that period of time. We were all opposing them because we thought they were full of it.

Maybe if you would stop telling us what to think over and over again, we could see the light. LOL

You just completely dodged the point I made with something totally irrelevant which didnt really make too much sense in the first place.. . . .I dont think i've mentioned the fact I think the vocals are fake in quite sometime. As a matter of fact.
 
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