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Who do you blame for MJ's death?

Who do you blame for MJ's passing?

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Hi everyone
Just wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are now on who killed our beloved Michael.
I blame Conrad Murray. no-one else.
 
Please to Michael's fans do not frown upon me for this...

...I love Michael to the bottom of my heart, but in a way I also think it was his fault due to him wanting to go to sleep and demanding the drugs when he was warned about the precautions that the drugs had.

Now I'm not sure if that is true ^.

But I think it was 50% Michael's and 50% Conrad's.
 
i blame Murry also. but there are others as well to blame but Murray is the main one who is responsible. He knew what he was doing and he didnt care at all about how dangerouis it was. He knew giving Michael a dangerouis drug outside of a hospital was reckless, risky, and iresponsible. He had every intention on earth to keep giving it to Michael w/o thinking of how bad it was and what it would could do to Michael. Once Michael died he did everything he could to cover it up bc he knew was going to get caught if he didnt. Ever since he got caught him and his team have been pinning the blame on Michael saying he killed himself or intensionaly gave himself the drug before dying. i think thats the biggest bunch of BS i have ever herd. He got caught and He is going to come out as the murder that he is. I hope he rots in hell.
 
I think more people are to blame for lots of things regarding Michael...
But I think the concrete thing that killed him was the recklessness of dr Murray, the things he did and other things he should have done but has not.
 
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I'm keeping an open mind about all possible eventualities, as there's a lot we simply do not know yet. (Here's to hoping it will all come out during trial.) However, as of right now, all evidence points to Murray being the murderer. His lack of knowledge and neglegient, moronic actions on the night of 25th June are the reason Michael is not with us anymore. :(
 
Those who blame Jackson for his own death are delusional. Not going to apologize, but you are. He had a doctor by his side hired to take care of him, who did Nothing to at least more properly monitor him via a proper medical equipment, and who let him die while covering for his tracks. Jackson was an extremely busy person with huge responsabilities, preparing strenuously for 50 concerts, and people should know what insomnia is and how it can kill one inside, because you can't sleep and can't function the next day after a sleepless night. If some insinuate that he committed suicide, or simply blame the victim and deceased for his own death, you're free to join Murray's camp, they need you. At least you could have the decency to just vote and keep such damaging opinions to yourselves on a forum dedicated to Jackson or post them on tabloid site comments, they can't wait for you in there as well.


As for who I blame for his death? Murray first and foremost, for his lack of concern for human life, and those who paid him to be that incompetent, dumb and emotionless, whether AEG, Thome Thome or other more obscure conglomerates. If plain arrogance could be tried too... The most guilty in all this is ultimately the one who directly was responsible for a person's death, in this case, Conrad Murray, Jackson's doctor, and 4 years for him, if he ever gets to lose the case, is a horrible joke.
 
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Alma said:
Those who blame Jackson for his own death are delusional. Not going to apologize, but you are. He had a doctor by his side hired to take care of him, who did Nothing to at least more properly monitor him via a proper medical equipment, and who let him die while covering for his tracks. Jackson was an extremely busy person with huge responsabilities, preparing strenuously for 50 concerts, and people should know what insomnia is and how it can kill one inside, because you can't sleep and can't function the next day after a sleepless night. If some insinuate that he committed suicide, or simply blame the victim and deceased for his own death, you're free to join Murray's camp, they need you. At least you could have the decency to just vote and keep such damaging opinions to yourselves on a forum dedicated to Jackson or post them on tabloid site comments, they can't wait for you in there as well.


As for who I blame for his death? Murray first and foremost, for his lack of concern for human life, and those who paid him to be that incompetent, dumb and emotionless, whether AEG, Thome Thome or other more obscure conglomerates. If plain arrogance could be tried too... The most guilty in all this is ultimately the one who directly was responsible for a person's death, in this case, Conrad Murray, Jackson's doctor, and 4 years for him, if he ever gets to lose the case, is a horrible joke.
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This is the truth. I am sick of ppl blaming Michael for his own death, for God"s sake..that is outrageous. I wanna shout from the top of my lungs..how can you trust the tabloids and Murray"s team ??!!!
Those fans who know Michael for a longer period of time know that he had health problems, just like everyone else. Suddenly..he is an addict.
I love Michael for 29 years and I never heard he was a addict. I heard a lot of cr** about him but this....
Taking medication does not make one addict ! Wake up, people !!!!!
 
smoothcriminal12 said:
Who are YOU to tell ME that MY opinion is delusional? Of course Michael is responsible for his own death! He hired the doctor. He asked for the drugs. He allowed him to administer drugs to him outside of a hospital. And on top of that he begged for more when he thought that it didn't work. Of course it was slightly Murray's fault for doing what Michael asked, but Michael is still to blame for his own death. You guys just don't get it...you're head is so far up Michael's arse that you can't even think that he did one thing wrong...:doh:
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wow you really are creepy.....how in the world can you blame Michael for his own death??? Secondly...how do you know he begged for more...were you in the room??? You are believing Murry's lies......why would you do that ....I take it you know enough about this case to KNOW that Murry has told countless lies??? I sure am glad you wont be on that Jury...you would let Murray walk.
 
Several people/sources could be blamed in one way or another but I am too afraid to go into it here in all honesty so I just voted still not sure, which is kind of the truth anyway.
 
You know what....I think a freedom of speech should stop when that means spreading lies and convincing other people to think the same. I read things like this and I always wonder...should I get into a fight or just let them think what they want ?! That is not right. Those are lies and that is doing the damage to Michael once again. Hasn"t he had enough in his life ?! The way he was treated , the way his reputation was constantly ruined, the way he is treated by his own fans ?! ( just don"t go there and say Michael was no angel and he was human. ) We all know that.
Once again...he wanted to give US his magic and his love. Once again...he was ready to put himself under a tremendeous stress because of us. And he did that. And he died because he had a doctor that did not care about him and all they wanted was to keep the stone rolling. And what is happening now ?! Fans are saying Michael was a crazy addict and a not responsable father !!!!!!!! I can"t take it any more. He did not deserve that.
Michael died trying.
I just hope and I am sure some of ppl will deeply regret what they said.

Oh, Michael...don"t listen to that. We know better.
 
If it was Michael's fault - (which I believe it wasn't) it could only be through a terrible accident. Michael loved life. He would never commit suicide - of course, I don't know for sure because I don't know him but that's how I see him.
 
Conrad Murray killed Michael, but others were killing him slowly long before that. And unfortunately MJ had no loving and supportive folks to help him when needed.
 
Really you ought to be able to vote for MJ himself too.

Some think it was his own fault as he wanted the medicin. Who is to blame: the drugaddict or the dealer? (I am NOT saying MJ was a drugaddict or anything - only an example!)

I myself blame Dr. Conrad Murray.
 
enemies, Sony is behind Conrad Murray... they did him kill Michael... One day it will all be dicovered, why would Murray kill him on his own??? Sony is protecting him now...
 
smoothcriminal12 said:
I blame Michael.
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What an awful thing to say. This topic I posted is showing some people are on the wrong side.

btw blaming Michael was not one of the poll options and I am sure I am safe in saying this point view goes against this everything this forum/community stands for.
 
Hess said:
Really you ought to be able to vote for MJ himself too.

Some think it was his own fault as he wanted the medicin. Who is to blame: the drugaddict or the dealer? (I am NOT saying MJ was a drugaddict or anything - only an example!)

I myself blame Dr. Conrad Murray.
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why I respect your comments I did not have I blame Michael option because it goes against the ethos of this fan community. If we start blaming MJ we are on a slippery slope. Do not be fooled by Murray or his lies.
 
Hmmm, what to do, what to do? We are a long way from knowing what happened in this case. We don't even know if MJ for sure asked for propofol. There are things that happened in the past that suggests it is possible or probable. However, things have happened that casts doubt on that. So many things are totally left up in the air; there are so many variables. I am wondering if such a poll is indeed premature. But I guess if you are asking what are people's thoughts "as of now" we have to be prepared to accept the fact that some are still willing to believe anything that has been written about MJ and actually accept what Murray has said as truth. Are we really surprised?

Anyway, as of now, can people please respect the requests of the OP and respond based on what she asked at the opening.

Thank you.
 
I expected something like this could happen. That is just pure ignorance.
Who know how many treatments Michael tried. Who knows what happened. I just can"t stand how certain words come out easily.
It is quite the same thing that I read once ( won"t say where..) - that Michael is to blame for 2005 trial because he was spending time with children.
I have enough of the evil tabloids and I just can"t stand the fact that I have to read stuff like that on a respectfull fan-board.
But...that is freedom of speech, I guess.
 
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wow you really are creepy.....how in the world can you blame Michael for his own death??? Secondly...how do you know he begged for more...were you in the room??? You are believing Murry's lies......why would you do that ....I take it you know enough about this case to KNOW that Murry has told countless lies??? I sure am glad you wont be on that Jury...you would let Murray walk.
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Yeah, that's why I said those people should join Murray's defense, the rude poster actually said Murray's fault was slight. Slight. 0_0 And that is why I won't apologize for what I said regarding these people, for it simply was the truth. They think they were this secret fly on the wall of Jackson's bedroom, or that they have a right to blame the dead one for their own death, not to mention on his forum. Hardly anyone is putting him on a pedestal, especially when he was alive, but he is not here to defend himself anymore and he was this beautiful, rare person who didn't Ask to die, on the contrary, did what he could given his rough, stressful circumstances, and asked a doctor to monitor his insomnia, we were not there in his mind, yet some prefer to defend Murray, an actual doctor, although Every single thing that Murray did esp that June 25, was horribly wrong. If some of our heads are up in Jackson's 'arse' as they elegantly say, sure theirs is up in Murray's with some of the enormities they nonchalantly say in a patronizing manner, that's how Murray is afterall.
 
there was a guy who was killed by his dr over here cause the dr overdosed him on pain killers in his home. guess it was the paitents fault aswell :doh::smilerolleyes:

yeap it was mjs fault murray OD him on both diprivan and benzos it was his fault murray sat on the phone when mj was asleep or already gone. mj should have known what murray would be doing once he was asleep. its mj fault he didnt ring 911 for at least 20 mins and spent more time trying to cover up the crime scene instead of helping mj.everything was mjs fault and the poor old dr on his 150k a month was just the poor old victim who was forced to work for mj was forced to give diprivan to someone with insomnia. was forced not to read the label on the benzos and dip about how they shouldnt be used together without monitoring equipment the list goes on. poor dr putting his desire for money and fame of working for mj aside. putting his hypocratic oath to one side. i guess the the woman who died under his knife on the operating table that was her fault aswell. lets have a big awwwww for the poor innocent victim in all of all this.

but thats as good as its gonna get from the haters.other than it was the nation of islam that did it.:doh:
 
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Would someone blame another patient who got drugs injected from his doctor,asked the doctor for stronger drugs, got it and then died because of them?
Patients can say the strangest things when they have been given some kind of drugs and IF Michael asked for propofol after all the other drugs he got,did he know what he was saying?
It´s the doctor who should know how dangerous the drugs are.

Here we have a doctor who said he left his patient for 2 minutes.IF someone else or Michael(which I understand isn´t possible) gave the lethal dose wouldn´t Michael still be with us if the doctor looked at him when he came back, did CPR and called 911 at once?
There were people in the house and I guess they should hear if he was screaming and would come running to help to call 911 if the doctor was busy with CPR
 
everythng murray has said is B.S there no point trying to work out what happened based on what he said. cause hes given so many different stories hes fishing for what sounds most credible. the prelim showed us that

Here we have a doctor who said he left his patient for 2 minutes
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at the end of the prelim his lawyer implied he left the room for an hour! which would give a chance for someone else to come in the room and do it!
 
I blame Conrad Murray, he was a trained doctor hired to take care of Michaels health, he should know better than giving Michael an overdose of such a dangerous drug and even leaving him alone in room.. Michael is NOT the one to blame, Conrad is a docter who knows the consequences for this strong medicin.
But i also think that there's more to the story, Conrad isn't alone about all this, 'cause i really can't come up with a motive for him to murder, for all i know the man was paid $100.000 a month, and Michael took him in to his home with open arms. Michael trusted him with something so important.

But none of us know anything 100 %. Michael, Conrad and god are the only ones who know what happent in that room, and Conrad is not telling the whole truth.
I just hope it will soon come out, and let Michael have his peace and justice.

I think AEG, Sony and maybe even some buisness men has a more obvious motive, but i'm not blaming anyone but Conrad now.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
at the end of the prelim his lawyer implied he left the room for an hour! which would give a chance for someone else to come in the room and do it!
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A doctor should never leave a patient alone after giving all these drugs, I still blame Murray.If he was there he was supposed to be-with Michael- then noone else could have come in to the room to kill Michael.
 
Murray, nobody else. Negligence on his part. I don't believe he set out to kill Michael, so Murray being held solely responsible due to his poor abilities is plausible to me.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
everythng murray has said is B.S there no point s that
at the end of the prelim his lawyer implied he left the room for an hour! which would give a chance for someone else to come in the room and do it!
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Really?? so what happened to the 2 minutes? Is Murray now admitting he left MJ alone for an hour? That's even worse because that means MJ had been dead for a lot longer, and Murray knew there was no chance of him being saved if he was gone for an hour.. And the question remains why did Murray have to leave for an hour? Michael was in a coma there is no way he could hear Murray's conversation.

Murray belongs beneath a jail cell
 
Murray holds the blame. Murray is the doctor, NOT Michael. In medical fields and law fields, there are OATHS you must take and stand by. It does not matter if Michael ask for the drugs, it does not matter that Murray was hired by Michael, the bottom line is that Murray should have did his job. I can understand blaming MJ to a point because even I wish MJ would have used more better judgement than this method to sleep; however, that does NOT matter in the eyes of the law and the medical. The DOCTOR is the one who holds the responsiblity. Murray ordered the drug and have the power to controll the situation. Just having this drug in the home and using for this purpose alone should put Murray under the jail in my book. Murray knew the laws of medicine and he failed. Even if Michael would have asked him to do something "unethical", it is still Murray's place to turn it down and walk out the doctor and say "I can not be your doctor".
 
terrell said:
Murray holds the blame. Murray is the doctor, NOT Michael. In medical fields and law fields, there are OATHS you must take and stand by. It does not matter if Michael ask for the drugs, it does not matter that Murray was hired by Michael, the bottom line is that Murray should have did his job. I can understand blaming MJ to a point because even I wish MJ would have used more better judgement than this method to sleep; however, that does NOT matter in the eyes of the law and the medical. The DOCTOR is the one who holds the responsiblity. Murray ordered the drug and have the power to controll the situation. Just having this drug in the home and using for this purpose alone should put Murray under the jail in my book. Murray knew the laws of medicine and he failed. Even if Michael would have asked him to do something "unethical", it is still Murray's place to turn it down and walk out the doctor and say "I can not be your doctor".
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Exactly Terrell!!! Murray has the license and he bought the propofol.. He could've easily left all 255 vials right in Applied Pharmacy in Las Vegas where it should've been..
 
Alma said:
Yeah, that's why I said those people should join Murray's defense, the rude poster actually said Murray's fault was slight. Slight. 0_0 And that is why I won't apologize for what I said regarding these people, for it simply was the truth. They think they were this secret fly on the wall of Jackson's bedroom, or that they have a right to blame the dead one for their own death, not to mention on his forum. Hardly anyone is putting him on a pedestal, especially when he was alive, but he is not here to defend himself anymore and he was this beautiful, rare person who didn't Ask to die, on the contrary, did what he could given his rough, stressful circumstances, and asked a doctor to monitor his insomnia, we were not there in his mind, yet some prefer to defend Murray, an actual doctor, although Every single thing that Murray did esp that June 25, was horribly wrong. If some of our heads are up in Jackson's 'arse' as they elegantly say, sure theirs is up in Murray's with some of the enormities they nonchalantly say in a patronizing manner, that's how Murray is afterall.
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It's true. Both are responsible for Michael's death. Maybe Michael didn't do nearly as much as Murray did, but he still contributed to his own death, sadly.
 
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