Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael"/ Excerpt @pg151/New Interview Post 3743

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

OMG! That is two times in two days that friedman has written a positive headline about Michael!
 
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^^Maybe love. It's love of something, maybe money. Notice when he did a review of Jermaine's the tone was much different. He schoffed at Jermaine belief that the children were Michael and other things. Now everything in Frank's book is good and fans should read it. The day I listen to Roger to help me make a moral and ethical dicision, you all can call the mental health authorities.
The funny thing is Freidman's article about Jermaine's book is one of the reasons that I decided to give it a chance. I said that if Freidman hates it, Jermaine must have done something right. LOL.
 
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I know what he says in his article but it's also obvious what he means from his previous articles that he wrote about the same subject and from the information we have from the trial. They don't count?
How many people in the general public will go back and read previous articles though?
 
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The funny thing is Freidman's article about Jermaine's book is one of the reasons that I decided to give it a chance. I said that if Freidman hates it, Jermaine must have done something right. LOL.

:lmao:

Life is indeed full of ironies.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Friedbrain writing positive or semi-positive article on Michael is nothing new, he's pretty much done a 180 ever since Michael died.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Friedbrain writing positive or semi-positive article on Michael is nothing new, he's pretty much done a 180 ever since Michael died.

Although it's hard to forget the past and a damn shame he couldn't before Michael died, this ^^^ is a good thing, isn't it?
 
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I've just came in here and there are about 30 more pages since my last visit, so I just read some of the posts - So, can anyone tell me: Did Frank really say Michael smoked weed? Or was that only written in a tabloid again?
I know this weed story can't be true in any way, but still it baffles me if Frank actually said that.
 
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Although it's hard to forget the past and a damn shame he couldn't before Michael died, this ^^^ is a good thing, isn't it?
Personally, I've never been a person to just let go of the past; not just when it comes to Michael, so I'll never be able to forgive and forget as I lack on maturity, Friedbrain contributed to a fair share of media cruelty and nastiness throughout the last decade, so nothing he says or does now, will ever take away the fact that he's a low life scum.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

If Cascio shows me Michael's recording Monster in his studio like Barry did
then l will buy this book
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Any doubt now who's been Friedman's source all those years?
 
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Friedman is anti-mj, he's just slightly more anti-murray, and pro-franks dileo and cascio as they presumably were his sources for stories. He doen't have any loyalties. I won't forget how he mocked prince in his gma interview earlier this year, for saying he was hoping to give animals who can't speak a voice - the boy was 13yrs old.
 
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How many people in the general public will go back and read previous articles though?

that's not an excuse for us fans to be ignorant, is it?

Friedbrain writing positive or semi-positive article on Michael is nothing new, he's pretty much done a 180 ever since Michael died.

Although it's hard to forget the past and a damn shame he couldn't before Michael died, this ^^^ is a good thing, isn't it?

Personally, I've never been a person to just let go of the past; not just when it comes to Michael, so I'll never be able to forgive and forget as I lack on maturity, Friedbrain contributed to a fair share of media cruelty and nastiness throughout the last decade, so nothing he says or does now, will ever take away the fact that he's a low life scum.

You must give credit when it's due. Friedman always wrote Michael wasn't a pedophile. He was one of the few people that said the trial was a absolute sham by the DA.
 
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well I don't know what u r talking about but indeed it was Frank records that destroyed the arvizos credibility. the conspiracy theory was the charge sneddy believed was the easiest to prove and when the defense were able to debunk it the jurors questioned the trustfulness of the molestation & alcohol charges. I don't want to defend anyone who benefits of MJ's privacy but I have a feeling Grace and others r planning to write books on MJ and I believe if Frank gives details on when and why MJ used specific meds it would be appreciated.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

that's not an excuse for us fans to be ignorant, is it?







You must give credit when it's due. Friedman always wrote Michael wasn't a pedophile. He was one of the few people that said the trial was a absolute sham by the DA.
That's the only thing I give him credit for. Apart from that his ''exclusives'' were horrible, and the saddest part was that a lot of other media picked up his dirty little stories.
 
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yes they did. let me quote the author

Q: Jobs could be notoriously difficult. Did you wind up liking him in the end?

Isaacson: Yes, I liked him and was inspired by him. But I knew he could be unkind and rough. These things can go together. When my book first came out, some people skimmed it quickly and cherry-picked the examples of his being rude to people. But that was only half the story. Fortunately, as people read the whole book, they saw the theme of the narrative: He could be petulant and rough, but this was driven by his passion and pursuit of perfection. He liked people to stand up to him, and he said that brutal honesty was required to be part of his team. And the teams he built became extremely loyal and inspired.

I watched tens of show talking about how "bad" he was. So it happens to anyone and every book. That's how media acts.




you clearly didn't watch Gest documentary. They go on to mention how perfectly he performed.

Well, I don't know if you saw the big 60 minutes piece the day before the book was released...but Isaacson didn't let the journalist run with the "he's mean" mantra. He presnted BOTH views....and that's EXACTLY what Steve Jobs wanted.

He started working on the book with Isaacson in 2009. He AUTHORIZED his friends AND ENNEMIES to talk with Isaacson, share pictures...and be as honest as they wanted to be.
He knew he was gonna die and wanted to curb leeches feeding off his life story after he passed. That is the only reason why he invited Isaacson to write his bio.

Basically, Steve Jobs didn't want what Cascio and a bunch of other backstabbers are doing to MJ to happen to him after he is gone.

That is why he asked Isaacson to write his bio back in 2009. Had MJ known he was gonna die in 2 years, he might have done the same thing. Who knows.

DYI. The irony: Although many of his harshest critics were interviewed , most would always explain his behavior to his childhood and the fact that he was abandoned by his parents. That came out in the interviews the author did, and it also came up very clearly in the book.

Another thing...Steve Jobs unlike Michael, didn't care that people knew. He was mean even to journalist..so it wasn't a secret. The only think he wanted to keep from media, is his disease. Whenever a journalist wrote ish about him, he'd call that person directly and told him/her ..."yes, I am an asshole, you can write that".


He did not care that people knew... and it was never a secret that he was an jackass

So I wouldn't use Steve Jobs' example to try and explain Cascio's BS.
 
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It's actually quite sad that we have to be grateful to Friedman for pointing out the obvious that the 05 trial was a set-up, (and probably only because Frank agreed to exclusively feed him stories). I think mat drudge was another one. It is no coincidence that there are no books on that trial - one of the most expensive in us criminal history and had more accredited journalists covering it than any other. (DDimonds book was only 1/3rd covering the trial and AJones book was self-published.) The media know full well that trial was a sham.

Soundmind - i don't think sneddon had the conspiracy charges as they were easy to prove - the chief pros witness for this charge was janet arvizo - a liability if ever there was one. I think it's accepted that the charge was to make sure that mj's associates couldln't testify (as co-conspirators) to mj having no contact with the arvizos during the crucial time period - they were his alibis. Hopefully frank's book will talk about this.
 
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I know the headlines are cause for concern but WE, more than any other group should know to wait until we can gather more information before judging, that's all.
Wait for what? Fact is we have the press making their negative headlines again based on Frank's interview and book. This is already done. I don't care for anything else Frank has to say. He fed the media with giving them "his truth" and helped them making money with trashing Michael. This is just disgusting.

Some of today's posts made me think and left me wondering if the issue we have here is that we aren't ready or willing for a real true and honest portrait of Michael?

Both Jermaine's book introduction and Frank's book introduction written by their publishers contain these words or similar meaning ones. I'll just go with "real true honest" combo for the sake of simplicity.

Then I looked to the comments comparisons to Jesus, no problems with weed but do not say that about Michael and so on and so on. I can't help but think , well it sounds like we are asking for a parts hidden , parts sugarcoated Saint portrait.

And I'll make it clear by a personal example.

Today if someone was to write a true, personal, honest book about me , it would include how my first love - who I believed to be one and only - broke my heart to the maximum by multiple acts including cheating, how I had an affair with a man for 2 years, how I hated myself for doing something that hurt me so much to another woman, and how after these two experiences I became not able to trust myself and the man I'm with and became commitment phobic. That would be a true inner me.

Another approach would be to look at me from my education, my job, my family, that I live with a puppy. like to do vegetable gardening - and not be that good at that, my love for Michael and some funny stories such as how my neighbor's kid escapes to my house after having a fight with his mom and how much I get a kick from it etc. That would still be me but a lot more superficial , obviously seen elements of my life but not at all my inner self or a real or full portrait.

So I'm wondering is that the issue here? That people do not want "real true honest" and inner portraits but prefer obvious omitted and even sugarcoated Saint portrait? Because when people say "give us funny stories, only positive, omit that , don't mention that" etc well it seems like that. So I'm curious.

edited to add: I'm also confused. Because initially the reason that people was so happy about this book was that Frank was close to Michael for 25 years and he knew Michael. But now we are unhappy because he tells us what he knows. Wasn't that what we were looking for in the first place?
A real true and honest portrait of Michael? Who says Frank can give us that? How can I trust someone who is involved in the much discussed song controversy, who neither gives us proof nor willing to discuss this issue? How can I trust someone who says that Michael married Lisa Marie to please the Arabs? How can I trust someone who says he wants to honor his friend but what he talks about is addiction, weed, and Michael as a calculating person?
Sorry but in my eyes, he has zero credibility. So I don't think he can portrait a real and honest image of Michael.

For a change, I would love to have someone who sugarcoats him. Or let's say who only writes about positive things and omits the negative parts of Michael's personality or life. And it has nothing to do with me not wanting to see the real Michael with his good but also bad sides. I KNOW he was not perfect, I know he had problems with drugs at some point in his life, I know that he might have character traits which I don't like. But I don't need to hear that over and over again. Michael was an incredible human being with a huge heart and the greatest artist of all time. Why not just leave it with that? Why do we have to know everything of the man? Why is it necessary for Frank to tell the world that MJ was high in the mountains?

For Lisa Marie I'm waiting to put in context. Because unlike many here I'm Muslim and not being married and having sex is really frowned upon, and it's a hell to have a child out of wedlock. In some Muslim countries females can even get killed for it. Illegitimate children are seen like the plague , in most countries they won't be even given an ID. I personally feel no need to get married but everyone in my family feels the need to push me everyday to get married - that doesn't mean my relationship isn't real. Perhaps Michael preferred to not be married and enjoy free love but rushed to the altar to satisfy a very real public pressure in Muslim countries. It doesn't mean his relationship or love or sex wasn't real.
Seriously this is getting lame. Do you have an excuse for everything Frank says? His claim is beyond ridiculous. Did MJ also want to please Muslim countries while he flew all around the world with his ex-wife, sharing a room, holding hands, being very affectionate? All this while he was married to another woman who was pregnant with his child. This statement just proves that he does not know Michael as much as he would like to or he has other intentions, bad ones, with claiming that...
 
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This Roger Friedman dude is insulting fans' intelligence...

Gee... so John McClain is now the bad guy? Seriously, if Michael's relationship with McClain went sour. Why wouldn't Michael replace McClain with another professional? Doesn't it take only minutes to amend a will?

Although I don't agree with all the artistic decisions the Estate has made, I don't support the character attacks aimed at the Executors. I find the family's accusations on Branca offensive. Likewise, I find the bad-mouthing on McClain equally offensive.

Friedman is biased because Frank and his family have been behind many of his MJ stories. I think it's pretty obvious now.
Looking forward to whomever, is gonna deny this today.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Well, I don't know if you saw the big 60 minutes piece the day before the book was released...but Isaacson didn't let the journalist run with the "he's mean" mantra. He presnted BOTH views....and that's EXACTLY what Steve Jobs wanted.

So I wouldn't use Steve Jobs' example to try and explain Cascio's BS.

Frank is yet to give an interview. So you can't really compare what the media choose to pick from his book versus how the author of Jobs book defended his book.

Actually I have been saying give him a chance to defend his book. What are you going to say for example in the Q&A he does a god job of explaining it? Wouldn't it be the exact same example you gave?

Wait for what? Fact is we have the press making their negative headlines again based on Frank's interview and book. This is already done. I don't care for anything else Frank has to say. He fed the media with giving them "his truth" and helped them making money with trashing Michael. This is just disgusting.

and today we also had a positive headline? why that doesn't count?


A real true and honest portrait of Michael? Who says Frank can give us that?

who says he cant? you? who probably never ever met Michael and sit across a computer and think they know everything about Michael better than a person that has been around him ?

How can I trust someone who is involved in the much discussed song controversy, who neither gives us proof nor willing to discuss this issue?

News Flash : Frank isn't Eddie. And this makes it apparent that your issue is with "Cascio" and not the book.


For a change, I would love to have someone who sugarcoats him. Or let's say who only writes about positive things and omits the negative parts of Michael's personality or life.

anything sugar coated would be a joke by the media.


Seriously this is getting lame. Do you have an excuse for everything Frank says? His claim is beyond ridiculous.

first please watch your words. second I didn't give an excuse, I said I'm waiting to read it in context to understand it. Third being married / not committing adultery and not having a child out of wedlock due to negative connotations (which might even include murder) that comes with it is a fact in Muslim countries.
 
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For a change, I would love to have someone who sugarcoats him. Or let's say who only writes about positive things and omits the negative parts of Michael's personality or life. And it has nothing to do with me not wanting to see the real Michael with his good but also bad sides. I KNOW he was not perfect, I know he had problems with drugs at some point in his life, I know that he might have character traits which I don't like. But I don't need to hear that over and over again. Michael was an incredible human being with a huge heart and the greatest artist of all time. Why not just leave it with that? Why do we have to know everything of the man? Why is it necessary for Frank to tell the world that MJ was high in the mountains?

Agreed. What's wrong with "sugarcoating" MJ for once? He's been trashed enough, hasn't he? The focus has been long enough on negative things such as drug use. Like you said: WE KNOW, WE GET THAT, NOW CAN WE MOVE ON? It would be really refreshing is someone focused on the positive for a change. Because I don't think the essence of Michael Jackson is that he was a drug addict.

As for the LMP thing: so Michael convinced the Arab princes of his strong family values by breaking up LMP's previous marriage to marry her? Or by taking his ex-wife on tour and even kissing her publicly (the Ivy's restaurant pics) while he was married to another woman?

Sure he did this for the Arab princes to show them his family values. Makes sense. :smilerolleyes:
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

anything sugar coated would be a joke by the media.


And do you think the non-sugarcoated claims (the ones we saw in the extracts from the book) benefit Michael in the media?
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

A real true and honest portrait of Michael? Who says Frank can give us that?


who says he cant? you? who probably never ever met Michael and sit across a computer and think they know everything about Michael better than a person that has been around him ?

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And I say that too and probably many others.
And I do think there are people who never met Michael and know him better than his so called "friends".
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Guys, can someone tell me: Did Frank really say Michael smoked weed? Or was that only written in a tabloid again?
I know this story can't be true in any way, but still it baffles me if Frank actually said that.
 
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Guys, can someone tell me: Did Frank really say Michael smoked weed? Or was that only written in a tabloid again?
I know this story can't be true in any way, but still it baffles me if Frank actually said that.

The Associated Press said this is what Frank wrote in his book. That he and Michael got stoned in the mountains a few times. As to whether it is true, we don't know. As to whether Frank actually wrote that in his book, we don't know until a few days.

However, it is possible that it is true. Why not? Why would MJ never have smoked weed in his life? Now whether it was prudent of Frank to say this (if he did) is another thing.
 
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The Associated Press said this is what Frank wrote in his book. That he and Michael got stoned in the mountains a few times. As to whether it is true, we don't know. As to whether Frank actually wrote that in his book, we don't know until a few days.

However, it is possible that it is true. Why not? Why would MJ never have smoked weed in his life? Now whether it was prudent of Frank to say this (if he did) is another thing.

Well, I didn't say it is a horrible thing anyway. But it totally sounds like all these other stupid gossip news and reminds me of all these drugs and addiction stories in the media recently.

However, I think I also won't judge the book until it got released and I read it myself. Still it would be sad if Frank turns out as a liar because Michael obviously trusted him...
 
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Frank is yet to give an interview. So you can't really compare what the media choose to pick from his book versus how the author of Jobs book defended his book.

Actually I have been saying give him a chance to defend his book. What are you going to say for example in the Q&A he does a god job of explaining it? Wouldn't it be the exact same example you gave?

Frank did one interview - 20/20 interview on ABC. They showed the cover of his book and he's sitting there flipping through it. The interviewer picked the drug addiction part, unfortunately he went along with it.

If Frank is goind to defend his book, I hope he does it on a national platform.

I don't care much about Jermaine, but I have to say he did a good job in defending his book and Michael lately.
 
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Frank is yet to give an interview. So you can't really compare what the media choose to pick from his book versus how the author of Jobs book defended his book.

Actually I have been saying give him a chance to defend his book. What are you going to say for example in the Q&A he does a god job of explaining it? Wouldn't it be the exact same example you gave

Ha ha ha...I could have sworn he was on ABC's 20/20 showing off his book while calling MJ a situational addict. I might have been stoned and imagined things. lol

My point was very straightfoward: YOU CANNOT COMPARE ISAACSON'S BIOGRAPHY OF STEVE JOBS, WHICH WAS AUTHORIZED ...AND CASCIO'S HIT JOB WHICH MJ NOT ONLY NEVER AUTHORIZED BUT FROM EVERYTHING WE KNOW, HE WOULD HAVE NEVER AUTHORIZED. PERIOD.

and today we also had a positive headline? why that doesn't count?

Ivy, come on now. Please don't insult our intelligence. Positive headline from whom? You are grasping at straws if you are using Friedman to support your positive headline argument.

Friedman's is a PR stunt orchastrated by cascio and his publisher to calm MJ's fans after yesterday's sh!t storm.

Feed the crap (addiction) to the media & general public, and throw a bone (positive story) to mj fans....it is all a game. He is manipulating both the general puybli & the fans to sell his BS.

FYI..not many people, but MJ fans, read Friedman. And last I read, his stories are not even welcomed on this very board. SMDH
 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

and today we also had a positive headline? why that doesn't count?
One positive article versus many negative ones! I'm so impressed...
NOT.



who says he cant? you? who probably never ever met Michael and sit across a computer and think they know everything about Michael better than a person that has been around him ?
Yes, I say he can't. Because he did nothing, N.O.T.H.I.N.G., to gain credibility in my eyes and those of many others. On the contrary.


News Flash : Frank isn't Eddie. And this makes it apparent that your issue is with "Cascio" and not the book.
I've said it before and I've never denied it. I have a problem with both Cascios. Frank and Eddie Cascio. And it's not solely based on the fake tracks, the book or whatever. It's all together. If he wants to honor his "friend" and he can't do it by talking, he should just shut his mouth.


anything sugar coated would be a joke by the media.
Great way of thinking...


first please watch your words. second I didn't give an excuse, I said I'm waiting to read it in context to understand it. Third being married / not committing adultery and not having a child out of wedlock due to negative connotations (which might even include murder) that comes with it is a fact in Muslim countries.
Watch my words? Towards you or Frank? There's nothing disrespectful in my words. I have the impression that you find excuses for everything. You tried to explain how he could have meant it, trying to make his ridiculous claim sound positive. And we all know that his own explanation does not make any sense. Or can you really believe that?

Agreed. What's wrong with "sugarcoating" MJ for once? He's been trashed enough, hasn't he? The focus has been long enough on negative things such as drug use. Like you said: WE KNOW, WE GET THAT, NOW CAN WE MOVE ON? It would be really refreshing is someone focused on the positive for a change. Because I don't think the essence of Michael Jackson is that he was a drug addict.

As for the LMP thing: so Michael convinced the Arab princes of his strong family values by breaking up LMP's previous marriage to marry her? Or by taking his ex-wife on tour and even kissing her publicly (the Ivy's restaurant pics) while he was married to another woman?

Sure he did this for the Arab princes to show them his family values. Makes sense. :smilerolleyes:
Thank you. That's it.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

The damage has been done-frank knew what he was doing and didnt have a second thought whatsoever IMO
 
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