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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

VaNiL;3825017 said:
WTF is wrong with Mayte García? How can she speak like that about MJ even when Prince praised Michael after he died. Who the f*** does she think she is? F*** HER! Do-nothing-has-been!
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What did she say?
 
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Big Apple2 said:
y.

And to top it off, he has the NERVE to say "this is not about money" (LOL), while he's filing for a CREDITOR'S CLAIM. What a dunce!
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AND a lawsuit, in case the creditor's claim doesn't work. So it's all about money. About wasting taxpayers' money IMO.
 
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terrell said:
I hope Wade talk to a tabloid. That will put a nail in his coffin for sure (his coffin is being nailed as we speak).
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British tabloids pay huge money for stories, will be interesting to see what happens there.

terrell said:
STEVE HARVEY is PLAYING ALL of MJ songs/Jacksons song. He is MAD. IT is great.
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Haha, that's great, good to hear he's still a fan, I always remember him recommending people to read Mary Fisher's article.

terrell said:
ABC news here talk about MJ. The were glad Taj told his story. The host seem to support MJ. The guy said, I am glad the Taj told this because this show what MJ was all about.
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Taj has really helped things - it's hard to claim MJ is this big serial abuser when you have a victim there expressing so much emotion in just a few tweets and showing that MJ had tried to advise him about pedophiles and supported him throughout such an ordeal!
 
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IF you want to talk to Inside Edition about maid, email them at tips@insideedition.com or call 1-212-817-5555. I do not care if they already know this maid and what she said, it is best to keep telling them that we know the lies this maid tells.
 
Sunwalker7;3824998 said:
Is there anything the Estate can do about this? Like, can they for example countersue Robson because he’s making false claims that damage Michael’s reputation and therefore damage the Estate’s income? I have no clue how this works according to California law, I’m just furious if Robson can say these things about Michael and not face any consequences for it.

I really hope there’s something the Estate can do. I hope they totally destroy this fool. If WR can do this without any consequences I believe it’s only a matter of time before some other idiot decides to try his luck and claim he was molested too. Even if they don’t get money from the Estate they must get some money for appearing in talk shows and giving interviews and things like that. It needs to be made clear that making bogus claims about Michael is not an easy way to make a few bucks.
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here is a link to a previous post I made, about an interview Tmez gave 2 days ago : http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...st-MJ-Estate?p=3824552&viewfull=1#post3824552

I know he's not a defense lawyer, but according to him, not much : if the case is thrown out, the estate wouldn't want to "re open the file" by suing robson + robson would have an easy defense saying he was convinced by his therapist, he thought his accusations were true. All they can do is fight the claim . Since Robson filed a lawsuit 10 days after the creditors claim,we can assume that's what the Estate is doing.
 
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terrell said:
And MJ is not here to sue him for slander
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no, he isnt. But isn't the Estate=Michael Jackson? Can't they sue on his behalf?

bobmoo79 said:
If he wasn't after money he didn't need to do the interview...
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true dat.
IF you want your claims to be taken seriously, you shut up, talk privately with a therapist, and let the proper authorities take care of the legal stuff. Even the Arvizo's knew that, for Christ's sake!
 
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Does anyone have a text phone? If so, text Tom joyner at 646464 about Wade. He wants to know the deal. I do not have cellphone that text. SO if you can, go right now and do it. Tom will reply. Also, send Tom all of the evidence from 1993 to 2005. I did not know he did not know this stuff. Tom also has a blog on www.blackamericaweb.com We need to educated him.
 
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who is Tom Joyner? (asks the non-American :lol: )
 
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That article above has this: Two years later, he was a guest at Jackson's Neverland ranch for the first of some 20-plus overnight visits. He told jurors he shared a bed with Jackson on numerous occasions from the ages of seven to 14, at Neverland, as well as apartments in Los Angeles and at hotels in Las Vegas and LA.
When asked by Jackson's lead lawyer, Thomas A. Mesereau Jr., whether he'd ever been molested by the singer Robson replied: 'Absolutely not,' before also denying strongly that Jackson had ever touched him in a sexually explicit way.

Now didn't the mother say they were there 4 times, so how come this article has 20-plus visits?

I guess Blanca forgot her experience in the court room in 05 & how foolish she was made to look. Actually, she returning to the stand, will be another highlight for me to watch her once again demolished on the stand. She will have a new version of her story, & they will again bring up all her different statements, plus add about her criminal activity, & her stories for money. She is like a fungus that whenever it sees the right environment where it can flourish, enters, settles in, & decays the environment.
 
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Who is Mayte Garcia???
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Prince ex wife who cheated on him and he refuses to speak to her any more, she also dated Wade's broke ass
 
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^Oh so that makes sense--ex-lover loyalty. I wonder if Wade made any money on his tv promotions, and I am still wondering if he was paid to come back & tell his story.
 
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Petrarose said:
That article above has this: Two years later, he was a guest at Jackson's Neverland ranch for the first of some 20-plus overnight visits. He told jurors he shared a bed with Jackson on numerous occasions from the ages of seven to 14, at Neverland, as well as apartments in Los Angeles and at hotels in Las Vegas and LA.
When asked by Jackson's lead lawyer, Thomas A. Mesereau Jr., whether he'd ever been molested by the singer Robson replied: 'Absolutely not,' before also denying strongly that Jackson had ever touched him in a sexually explicit way.

Now didn't the mother say they were there 4 times, so how come this article has 20-plus visits?

I guess Blanca forgot her experience in the court room in 05 & how foolish she was made to look. Actually, she returning to the stand, will be another highlight for me to watch her once again demolished on the stand. She will have a new version of her story, & they will again bring up all her different statements, plus add about her criminal activity, & her stories for money. She is like a fungus that whenever it sees the right environment where it can flourish, enters, settles in, & decays the environment.
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They visited many times without him.

Yes, it would be great to see Blanca destroyed again.

I think someone who contacts Mesereau needs to tell him to include her and Adrian McManus in the statements he makes too, I don't know if he's aware they've come back from hiding and need to be discredited.
 
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he is radio DJ. he likes MJ; but I think the wants more info about Wade and the cases. Send him anything you have.
 
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I just borrowed my cowork text phone and talked to Tom. What I told him, he said OK THANKS. he is willing to listen. Do it fans. Tell eveything you know text is better because he will response back PERSONALLY. His text is 646464
 
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Petrarose said:
I wonder if Wade made any money on his tv promotions, and I am still wondering if he was paid to come back & tell his story.
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I didn't see the interview myself, but if they showed any personal pictures of Wade while he was being interviewed then he was paid.

These media outlets like to say "we don't pay for interviews," but the DO. They just come up with creative ways to pay the money out. For instance, not only will they pay you for using your personal pictures and personal video clips, they will also pick up your travel expenses, and the travel expenses of anybody traveling with you, i.e. his wife and son. They will also put you up in a fancy New York Hotel (in this case NY, because this is where the interview took place). They will purchase you Broadway tickets, and in many instances, treat you to a entire weekend of "fun."

I remember after Casey Anthony's trial, her attorney said that ABC basically paid for her legal defense, because of all of the pictures and video clips they showed of Casey Anthony and her daughter (RIP).
 
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yes guys educate him on everything especially Wade being dropped from the One show . At least the media now is willing to get educated on the accusations not like in 1993 and 2003
 
terrell;3825043 said:
I just borrowed my cowork text phone and talked to Tom. What I told him, he said OK THANKS. he is willing to listen. Do it fans. Tell eveything you know text is better because he will response back PERSONALLY. His text is 646464
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Terrell, I can't call him, but here is some info you can post to him about Wade:

Here is an article about Wade’s mother celebrating the “not guilty” verdict in 2005: http://www.theage.com.au/news/Peopl...ns-defence-case/2005/06/14/1118645780742.html


"We were crying and screaming and crying and screaming.''


Here is what Wade Robson wrote on his website right after Michael’s death: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/jacksons-australian-confidant-speaks-out-20090627-d0bu.html

"Michael Jackson changed the world and, more personally, my life forever. He is the reason I dance, the reason I make music, and one of the main reasons I believe in the pure goodness of human kind. He has been a close friend of mine for 20 years. His music, his movement, his personal words of inspiration and encouragement and his unconditional love will live inside of me forever. I will miss him immeasurably, but I know that he is now at peace and enchanting the heavens with a melody and a moonwalk. I love you Michael."


He wrote this introduction to the MJ Opus book in 2009:


"I used to talk to Michael for three hours a day. I never really worked out how he came to find so much time because he seemed so busy, but he would ring me and we would talk and talk and talk. When he got a cell phone he would call and text all the time.It was part of an amazing friendship that lasted for 20 years.
I had first met Michael when he was kicking off his bad tour in 1987. I was five, but Michaels company were holding a dance competition in every country and i entered the one in Brisbane. I remember being a kid and dancing to his video- the first iever say was “Thriller” when I was two. It was my mum’s tape and I just went nuts over it. I used to run into the kitchen scared everytime the wereworlf came on. By the time i was three i had pretty much learned its entire choreoghraphy.
I ended up winning the dance competition. We went to see Michael in Brisbane and at a meet and greet i was introduced to him. I remember wearing a custome made outfit from “Bad”- my mum’s belt was wrapped around me, like five times. Michael was impresssed and asked me if I had danced. I told him that I did and he said ” Do you want to perform with me in the show tomorrow night?”
I couldn’t believe it. He was due to play brisbane the next night. His idea was for me to come out for the last song of the show which was “Bad”. He was bringing on some orphaned children so he figured it would be cool to bring me out in the full “Bad” outfit. At the end of the song we were all onstage- Stevie Wonder was there too and Michael came on and said “Come on”. | took it as him meaning “Get into it!”.I moved downstage and threw my hat into the crowd and started going crazy. When i turned around Michael was saying goodbye to the crowd, the other kids were gone and Stevie Wonder was being escorted off. What he meant was “Come on lets go, It’s over”.
When I realised, I ran off. After my mum and I spent two hours with Michael into his hotel and we became friends. He showed us clips from the new Moonwalker he was working on and we talked and talked. We didn’t really stay in contact but i joined a dance company- literally the next day and two years later i was in America to play at Disneyland. I got in touch with Michael through his people, he remembered me. Me and my family went to Record one studio where he was mixing the dangerous album.I showed him some of my dance videos and he said to me. “Do you and your family want to come to Neverland tonight”? We all agreed and ended up staying for two weeks.
Our friendship blossomed. For two weeks he’d take me into his dance studio, put some music on and we’d dance and jam for hours.We’d sit there and watch films like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.Other time we’d just leave Neverland and drive out in a car, blasting music really loud.
He even taught me how to do the moonwalk.We were in his dance studip. He taught me foot by foot. I couldn’t sleep that whole night. The thrill of pushing off the bar and sliding backwards in a moonwalk with the guy that made it famous was so exciting.
Later, me and my mym wanted to move to America to pursue my dreams of becoming a dancer and he helped us out. He gave me a big start by putting me in some of his videos like “Black or White”. The role he took on was one of a mentor. He told when I was seven that I’d be a film director and thats what I became, he created a thirst for knowledge in me.Once, a mini recording studio turned up on my doorstep, but what was cool was that he stopped me from becoming a spoiled brat. He would say “This is for you, but I want to see you do something with it. Dont take it for granted or I”ll take it back”. The last time I saw him was in July 2008. I was in Vegas working on a show and he was living there.Me, my wife and him and his three kids had a barbecue. It was the most normal thing in the world. Me and my wife had been to Whole foods and bought stuff to cook. But when we got there he’d provided loads of catering. I said “Dude, Why did you bring loads of catering? We’ve got regular food here”.I remember cooking outside while Michael sat there under an umbrella.
We had great times because he was such a caring person. Most of all I’ll miss those phone conversations. I still have my mobile phone with his number on it. I just cant bear the thoughts of deleting his messages.

Hope you all enjoy reading as much as I did.-Wade Robson, Introduction to Michael Jackson Opus”



In September 2009, in Dance Magazine:

"Wade Robson, choreographer
Michael’s movement was this amazing amalgamation of all his influences, filtered through this beast of a dancer. His lines were so dynamic. He understood the strength of simple movement delivered with incredible precision and energy. An invert of the legs and an extension of the arm were so much more powerful than 15 pirouettes. His energy shot up from the earth. God danced through him.

I remember the first time he taught me the moonwalk at the dance studio at Neverland. I was 7, I think. I remember standing at the ballet barre and him teaching me to push back one foot at a time, teaching me the weight distribution on the balls of the feet. “Now just go, push off, and fly!” he said. That night I couldn’t sleep. I had to get up every 15 minutes and do it again.

I learned altruism from him. In the entertainment industry, it’s easy to get jaded. Despite all of the madness he went through, he had such an innocence. He trusted people, and in his heart, believed in them."

http://www.dancemagazine.com/issues/september-2009/Remembering-Michael-Jackson





In July 2011 he praised Michael again and he claimed he worked on Cirque du Soleil’s Michael Jackson show. According to Michael’s Estate he was on a shortlist, but he didn’t get the job and there was never a contract between him and the show. If that’s true that makes this interview very bizarre – the way he talks about it as if he’s already got the job. He certainly wanted this job very, very much and it must have been a massive disappointment that he did not get it…



Here is the interview (the relevant part is at 2:40):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWtvYzsbtjc&feature=player_embedded


By the way, the choreographer who got the job is Jamie King, who already replaced Robson on a Britney Spears tour in 2008:
http://www.crushable.com/2008/12/26...jamie-king-in-for-britney-spears-circus-tour/


"I reported back in November that Wade Robson and his wife were directing and choreographing Britney’s upcoming tour as Wade himself stated in a video, but plans have changed. Wade was actually only hired to direct Britney’s Circus promotional tour which had ended in Japan.


Jamie King, who also directed Madonna’s Sticky and Sweet Tour which by the way raked in A LOT of money is now replacing Wade and his wife as Britney Spears Circus’ Tour Director while Simon Ellis is the Musical Director for the tour.”


In 2011 he and his mother helped Jermaine Jackson with his book – and they were still all positive about Michael.



And in March 2012 he gave this interview, again talking about Michael’s influence on him, among others: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWazdCJxTFI
 
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The media already know what happened in 1993 and 2003, they don't need to be educated. They just pretended.

I know what Ivy wrote about this section only allowed to members. That's why I suggested it shouldn't be allowed new ones while this f*ckery goes on.
 
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I remember Tom Joyner a bit differently than Terrell.

I am pretty sure he was always talking about the case in 2005 and had nothing positive to say about Michael at that time and his stance only changed slightly after Michael's death. If it is the same guy, he should not NOW want to be educated. He should have chosen to be educated WHILE THE CASE WAS GOING ON!

Either way, I am glad that people are willing to learn the facts. But if he is the Joyner I think he is, I am just slightly annoyed that he now wants to know the deal!
 
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la_cienega said:
They visited many times without him.

Yes, it would be great to see Blanca destroyed again.

I think someone who contacts Mesereau needs to tell him to include her and Adrian McManus in the statements he makes too, I don't know if he's aware they've come back from hiding and need to be discredited.
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But didn't we learn that most of the time Michael was not there, & Joy did say 4 times, so wouldn't the times they went when Michal was not there be included in the times Joy is talking about?

Thechosenone ^better late than never. Maybe he discovered he was a fool? who knows.....

Respect what would be good too is a sequenced list of all his inconsistencies, eg., being in a collapse due to the allegations & then seeing him on a video, so that we have it to post to others or to place under articles. We really need to show what he was doing or said from 2012, because according to him & his lawyer & sister, he realized he was molested either 18 months ago, or when his kid was born, or last year March.
 
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TheChosenOne said:
I remember Tom Joyner a bit differently than Terrell.

I am pretty sure he was always talking about the case in 2005 and had nothing positive to say about Michael at that time and his stance only changed slightly after Michael's death. If it is the same guy, he should not NOW want to be educated. He should have chosen to be educated WHILE THE CASE WAS GOING ON!

Either way, I am glad that people are willing to learn the facts. But if he is the Joyner I think he is, I am just slightly annoyed that he now wants to know the deal!
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^^ Let's just be grateful that people are being open to the truth now. It's better late than never. It's better than them flat out being against him too. It gives the fans a chance to get the facts out there more and that's important. The more people we educate the better, no matter what their position is.
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Big Apple2 said:
Can somebody confirm that Wade Robson was part of the MTV tribute with Janet Jackson, i.e. The SCREAM performance?

Thank you.
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MTV article said that he was there:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621925/janet-jackson-had-michaels-back-on-scream.jhtml

Also this:
It has been reported that Janet Jackson will be performing this Sunday at the MTV video music awards, and now it has been confirmed by dancer Wade Robson via MySpace bulletin that Janet will indeed perform.

Robson says, 'WADE ROBSON, MIA MICHAELS, BRIAN FRIEDMAN, CRIS JUDD, TRAVIS PAYNE, TINA LANDON, DAVE SCOTT, TYCE DIORIO, JERRY SLAUGHTER, LAURIE ANN GIBSON & GIL DULDULAO ARE PERFORMING WITH JANET JACKSON ON THE MTV VMA AWARDS ON SEPTEMBER 13TH IN TRIBUTE TO MICHAEL JACKSON.'
http://www.examiner.com/article/wad...tribute-to-michael-jackson-at-mtv-vmas-sunday

Here is the link to Making of MJ tribute.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xajzva_making-of-mj-tribute_music#.UZY8QJVGLOE

Around 2 minutes mark, someone introduses all the dancers and Wade is right there 2:34 mark.
 
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Courtney said:
^^ Let's just be grateful that people are being open to the truth now. It's better late than never. It's better than them flat out being against him too. It gives the fans a chance to get the facts out there more and that's important. The more people we educate the better, no matter what their position is. :)
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It also proves that once there is one liar then it's not inconcievable that the other two were lying also.
 
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The King's soldiers did their job, defend the King. Now, the Estate has just to crush Robson, and it will be finished. But I must say, seeing Robson in these shows saying his lies, it's kind of funny. I wonder how he feels today, seeing the headlines just in US saying he's a moron who lies for money.

It's so young to die at 30!:rofl:
 
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Moonwalker77 said:
I wonder how he feels today, seeing the headlines just in US saying he's a moron who lies for money.
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he's probably wishing there was a hot air balloon he could escape in :busted:
 
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