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Dangerous 25 is NOT happening.

Bull s-hit Azibitybab! "Thriller 25" and "Bad 25" all happened within the last decade! Not decades ago! And no one said anything about them needing two years of promotion! I was just pointing out that that was what "Dangerous" had with insane commercial success! Why the f-cuk does every other artist get to do anniversary re-releases that never sold anything near what "Dangerous" did and yet some of you are hellbent to go with the concept that "Dangerous 25" should not be done! It's not like there are bunches of other Michael Jackson releases that could get this treatment...actually the whole lot of Jackson 5, Jacksons, and Michael's childhood solo releases could as well but we will save that argument for later. Why would you not want something exciting and good to happen?! Dumb arses!
 
AlexRox said:
Bull s-hit Azibitybab! "Thriller 25" and "Bad 25" all happened within the last decade! Not decades ago! And no one said anything about them needing two years of promotion! I was just pointing out that that was what "Dangerous" had with insane commercial success! Why the f-cuk does every other artist get to do anniversary re-releases that never sold anything near what "Dangerous" did and yet some of you are hellbent to go with the concept that "Dangerous 25" should not be done! It's not like there are bunches of other Michael Jackson releases that could get this treatment...actually the whole lot of Jackson 5, Jacksons, and Michael's childhood solo releases could as well but we will save that argument for later. Why would you not want something exciting and good to happen?! Dumb arses!
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Oh dear god. To miss one point, perhaps two points, but everything I said? I was not talking about a two year promotional campaign in regards to T25 and Bad25. It was in relation to the original Dangerous campaign 25 years ago. The two years of promotion is what enabled Dangerous to sell so well.

Yes, other artists; McCartney, Phil Collins, Springsteen etc have superb boxset retrospectives, Elvis gets some superb releases on the Legacy label with the fantastic Legacy Editions. But... The MJ estate/Sony approach MJ in a different way. No one is saying it is the RIGHT way, but it is the way nonetheless.

Nobody, nobody, nobody here is hellbent for a Dangerous 25 not to be done. But we've been around long enough to not kid ourselves into thinking that it was something that was happening. Heck, I would love a Dangerous 25 but done the right way.

Wanting something exciting to happen and something exciting actually happening are two different things.

And thanks for the insults. As always, absolutely charming!
 
Hulkamaniac said:
they gotta remaster Thriller video in full HD
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I have 1 funny ass feeling that being with this mess happening right now....& knowing the estate...we're probably going to hear "oh we couldnt find the film reels for a new scale but we did the best we could...so here ya go" & give us that bullsh*t copy we've had for years & years...all i want is this? i mean just look at it
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What bullsh*t concert mix that they say is one concert are we getting this time.

In case you don't know what I meant... Bucharest 1992 DVD anyone?
 
The Estate needs to take notes from the Paul McCartney Archive Collection, which has been steadily reissuing his albums one-by-one for the last few years with new content, demos, some video footage, and excellent packaging. I'm not the largest McCartney fan myself, but looking over the releases makes me pine for something even half as impressive for Michael Jackson.

It's clear that Branca and McClain need to take a step back for a few years, assess their situation, and plot their next move carefully. Their reputation is already in the dumps (for reasons both understandable and ridiculous) and they need to win us over again.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I would rather wait until 2021 for a Dangerous reissue and have it be immensely satisfying, rather than get one now that's underwhelming. If that's the case, so be it.
 
AlexRox said:
At some point they are going to have to do a super deluxe edition! So why miss out on this anniversary opportunity to release something that could be not as much of an over view as that? Surely they are going to want to exploit something that is not a Quincy Jones release! Imagine the damage to the franchise and Michael's name if it just becomes a one trick Quincy Jones pony show!
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:lol: :lol:

A deluxe edition...yeh right! :lol: :lol: keep dreaming sorry but won't happen if they don't do something like that now for the 25 anniversary they never will
 
AlwaysThere said:
The Estate needs to take notes from the Paul McCartney Archive Collection, which has been steadily reissuing his albums one-by-one for the last few years with new content, demos, some video footage, and excellent packaging. I'm not the largest McCartney fan myself, but looking over the releases makes me pine for something even half as impressive for Michael Jackson.

It's clear that Branca and McClain need to take a step back for a few years, assess their situation, and plot their next move carefully. Their reputation is already in the dumps (for reasons both understandable and ridiculous) and they need to win us over again.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I would rather wait until 2021 for a Dangerous reissue and have it be immensely satisfying, rather than get one now that's underwhelming. If that's the case, so be it.
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Aren't they going to re-release things in terrible quality?

Like they did with Bucharest 1992

or Wembley 1988?
 
Branca and McClain visions are kinda obsolete now. They need to move on and let someone else controlling the releases. But that's not gonna happen because something with "Michael Jackson" in it made them earn a huge amount of money every year. They see Michael as a product and not as an artist.

Nothing will change until both of them die.
 
I agree they simply don't care bout Michael whatsoever and I think branca holds a huge grudge up his ass over the fact mj fired him yrs ago!
 
They need to stop touching the trim of the money and focus on Michael himself
 
AlexRox said:
Ummm, they DID do a phenomenal job with "Bad 25"...
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Eh, debatable.

Disc one contained the 2001 edits, not the original 1987 mixes.
Disc two contained three remixes nobody asked for.
The Wembley concert CD was poorly mixed.
The Wembley concert CD had odd and nonsensical edits.
The Wembley concert DVD had a poor remastering job.
The Wembley concert DVD had a poor audio mix.
Poor mastering effort across the board.

Bad25 remains their best project thus far, but there was still a lot wrong with it - most of it easily fixable.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Eh, debatable.

Disc one contained the 2001 edits, not the original 1987 mixes.
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I do agree it would've been nice to have the 1987 mixes, I prefer the original mixes for Bad and Smooth Criminal at least.

AlwaysThere said:
Disc two contained three remixes nobody asked for.
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And yet we got 6 entirely new songs and a new version of IJCSLY. I like the Afrojack and Nero remixes as well, but I dislike the Pitbull one.

AlwaysThere said:
The Wembley concert CD had odd and nonsensical edits.
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I wish they just released it over 2 CDs. They had to keep cutting down on the instrumental parts that are perfect to dance to!!

AlwaysThere said:
The Wembley concert DVD had a poor remastering job.
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I mean, there's only so much you can do to a 20+ year old VHS tape.
 
aazzaabb said:
Yes, other artists; McCartney, Phil Collins, Springsteen etc have superb boxset retrospectives, Elvis gets some superb releases on the Legacy label with the fantastic Legacy Editions.
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The thing with these acts is that they generally have a boomer audience who will more likely buy a extravagant box set. There's also the case that they're white classic rock acts. I don't see that many black performers getting these types of releases, especially coming from the R&B field. They might get a career box set, but not many get deluxe versions of individual albums like Bob Marley or Miles Davis do. Stevie Wonder doesn't have any, but then again there's the long standing rumor that he wants his unreleased music destroyed upon his death. Miles is jazz, another audience who is more likely to buy it. It doesn't have to sell huge amounts. The average Miles Davis fan is not as likely to download his stuff for free as they will want good sound quality, not an MP3. They are also more likely to buy a physical CD, not just watch the Youtube videos. Post Napster, the younger generations have grown up with free music, so they probably don't value it as much.
 
AlexRox said:
Bull s-hit Azibitybab! "Thriller 25" and "Bad 25" all happened within the last decade! Not decades ago! And no one said anything about them needing two years of promotion! I was just pointing out that that was what "Dangerous" had with insane commercial success! Why the f-cuk does every other artist get to do anniversary re-releases that never sold anything near what "Dangerous" did and yet some of you are hellbent to go with the concept that "Dangerous 25" should not be done! It's not like there are bunches of other Michael Jackson releases that could get this treatment...actually the whole lot of Jackson 5, Jacksons, and Michael's childhood solo releases could as well but we will save that argument for later. Why would you not want something exciting and good to happen?! Dumb arses!
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I welcome the fact that there is no Dangerous 25 release for the simple reason that it annoys you so much that there isn't.
 
The d.v.d. was exactly how it was suppose to be. I have explained this for years now. I can't help anyone else at this point to understand. It just falls all on deaf ears. Totally pointless. So back to what I was saying. Yes. "Bad 25" was amazingly perfect for what it needed to be at the time. The end and amen. It's so sad that the fans here are determined for there not to be a "Dangerous 25".
 
innuendo141 said:
I wouldn't sign a petition based on the lack of a Dangerous 25 release. Fake MJ vocals are reason enough to want to be rid of Branca alone in fairness. There's a list of very valid reasons that people would want him gone. I personally never expected nor particularly wanted a Dangerous re-release. An online celebration looks interesting.
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I wanted him gone when he desperately tried to squeeze out a tear at the end of Bad 25 but one wouldn't come so he just dabbed the corner of his eye anyway.

:beee:
 
innuendo141 said:
I'm absolutely speechless at some of those t-shirts...

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I agree, I can't quite believe the creativity, artistry and thought that has gone into them. And the colours of the tees match the cover art so well. I can see thousands wearing these..............in their nightmares.

That photo of MJ would have looked great on a red tee without the 'square'. It wouldn't have taken much effort to make these into really beautiful, wearable items. It's not as if they are selling these singles, and they need to advertise the vinyl / CDs 'as they appear in the stores'.
 
It’s clear that they keep all music for Xscape like projects. They know it was a mistake to include unreleased songs in Bad 25, so OTW rerelease had none of it.

To rerelease Dangerous without unheard demos? There’s no excuse for it. To include something is a waste. So we have an online celebration.

It is very annoying that with their extreme negativity fans online destroy what is supposed to be a celebration.

To criticize at one point is alright but to act as if an online celebration itself is a complete disaster that’s a different thing, IMO.
It’s only the 3rd day but I feel like I don’t want anything.

IMHO, it is us, the fans who should be the force behind online celebration. It is us who love Dangerous the most and have special memories attached to it!
No matter how much unreleased material it has, it is the original album we love.
With little positivity, it can be nice experience.
 
innuendo141 said:
I'm absolutely speechless at some of those t-shirts...
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Yes, the design is way too simple. Single covers with Dangerous 25 signature. Very simple.

I guess I like Remember the Time T-shirt because I like the song, lol.
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