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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

MICHAEL JACKSON'S ESTATE; the moment to release Thriller in HD on Youtube IS NOW!
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4247913 said:
Unless we missed them, from big name celebrities it has been rapper T.I. who quite obviously was not afraid to speak his mind, and said the accusers are trying to destroy a strong black historical legend. Truly wish more rappers and just artists in general would show their full support. But this is the goddamn MeToo.....era I guess and people are afraid to speak their mind. Just look at Corey. Fully had Michael's back, a day or two later he becomes all PC.

I can't deny that I'm massively disappointed that we heard nothing from Lionel Richie, Celine Dion (my guess is she's a big MeToo supporter), Akon, Chris Tucker, where is Stevie Wonder? And so on. It's not that I necessarily believe they are siding with these three lying ass bastards, but.... open your goddamned mouthes. I definitely understand Michael Trapson in that regard. Same with any impersonators, don't be staying silent now and once the storm has cleared and HOPEFULLY these assholes are exposed, don't come with your little tribute shows and what not, just don't.
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I believe Stevie Wonder has spoken in support of Michael.

As you say many don’t want to speak or get involved due to fear of public backlash due to the Metoo movement and how people are so quick to judge and jump on things.
 
1nn5 said:
I have read a documents on Twitter, that 21 March will be the deadline day for HBO to respond on the lawsuit of the Estate ?
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The parties have 30 days to agree on a retired judge to arbitrate. If they can't agree, each selects a retired judge, and these 2 judges select a retired judge to arbitrate. If they can't agree within 30 days of their selection, The Superior Court of Calif selects a retired judge to arbitrate.

So, if the two parties can't agree on a retired judge, it could take 30 more days to select a judge (ie to appx 21 April) or longer.
 
Sad that summer did not post here anymore but she whould say:
STEP AWAY FROM EVERY NEGATIVE ARTICLE ABOUT MICHAEL!!!
DON'T GIVE THEM ANY CLICKS OR RATINGS!! THATS ALL THEY WANT!!!
WHEN YOU DO THIS THEY WILL WHRITE MORE!!!
DON'T CLICK ON IT!!!
SUPPORT ONLY POSITIVE ARTICLES ABOUT MJ!!
 
AG5050;4247925 said:
I believe Stevie Wonder has spoken in support of Michael.

As you say many don’t want to speak or get involved due to fear of public backlash due to the Metoo movement and how people are so quick to judge and jump on things.
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That's why I give big ups to T.I. He doesn't give a **** and that's how it should be. I'm so done with this whole MeToo thing and with this right now it's doing way more harm than good. Even before this actually. It probably was mostly good with Weinstein.
 
1nn5 said:
I'm convinced that Dan Reed is a big hater of MJ, look :
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That ****ing guy..... Oooooh that kinda stuff makes my blood boil.

Reed, all in due time man, all in due time. What goes around comes around, believe it you piece of human waste!

Also, the way he's acting is not how a actual director should be behaving. What a lousy miserable excuse for a human being. Than again, only a true rotten soul could come up with the idea to make a sick NAMBLA doc and abuse MJ's name and legacy for it.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
That ****ing guy..... Oooooh that kinda stuff makes my blood boil.

Reed, all in due time man, all in due time. What goes around comes around, believe it you piece of human waste!

Also, the way he's acting is not how a actual director should be behaving. What a lousy miserable excuse for a human being. Than again, only a true rotten soul could come up with the idea to make a sick NAMBLA doc and abuse MJ's name and legacy for it.
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Just flood his comments with all the stuff against him, he will be reading them as he doesn't have a massive amount of followers.

I will literally give him abuse the rest of his life.
 
I agree with the poster talking about the negative articles.

We feed into the system by clicking on the negative stuff. The more we do, the more the media will generate.

If we click on the positive stuff, the narrative will change.

WE HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC. Stop feeding the monster!
 
SB - I get you re the whole Me Too thing. But people need to understand that it is possible for others to be guilty and for Michael Jackson to be innocent. Not everybody is who is accused is guilty and they are quite a few people who have never been publically accused who are guilty as sin! Things need to be taken on a case by case basis.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
That ****ing guy..... Oooooh that kinda stuff makes my blood boil.

Reed, all in due time man, all in due time. What goes around comes around, believe it you piece of human waste!

Also, the way he's acting is not how a actual director should be behaving. What a lousy miserable excuse for a human being. Than again, only a true rotten soul could come up with the idea to make a sick NAMBLA doc and abuse MJ's name and legacy for it.
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And members are convinced by his documentary.
 
Anna said:
If Shane Dawson did one of his documentaries about all this it could really help turn things around. Maybe we should ask him for help.
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What about him... i think i saw some of his videos in 2012.. what happened to him?
 
What is this story in the tabloids about the fbi investigation being stopped in 1985?
 
mjawb2009 said:
What is this story in the tabloids about the fbi investigation being stopped in 1985?
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A story from the old age.
MYTH: The FBI file reveals that Jackson was investigated in 1985 for molesting two Mexican boys.

FACT: An FBI officer recorded an allegation that the bureau had previously investigated Jackson in 1985 for the molestation of two Mexican boys. This allegation was made by an unnamed writer who said the story had been told to him during research for a book. The FBI searched its records and could find no evidence that any such allegation had ever been reported to them .. but the majority of media outlets failed to mention this important fact. A simple oversight, I'm sure...

http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.com/2010/01/fbi-files-support-jacksons-innocence.html
 
"Stories buried and untold
Someone is hiding the truth,
hold on
When will this mystery unfold
And will the sun ever shine
In the blind man's eyes when he cries"

Michael Jackson in Cry
 
1nn5;4247940 said:
A story from the old age.
MYTH: The FBI file reveals that Jackson was investigated in 1985 for molesting two Mexican boys.

FACT: An FBI officer recorded an allegation that the bureau had previously investigated Jackson in 1985 for the molestation of two Mexican boys. This allegation was made by an unnamed writer who said the story had been told to him during research for a book. The FBI searched its records and could find no evidence that any such allegation had ever been reported to them .. but the majority of media outlets failed to mention this important fact. A simple oversight, I'm sure...

http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.com/2010/01/fbi-files-support-jacksons-innocence.html
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Thanks for this. I’d seen this story yesterday from a few different outlets and it wasn’t one I’d heard before.
 
TheChosenOne said:
SB - I get you re the whole Me Too thing. But people need to understand that it is possible for others to be guilty and for Michael Jackson to be innocent. Not everybody is who is accused is guilty and they are quite a few people who have never been publically accused who are guilty as sin! Things need to be taken on a case by case basis.
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This is why people need to judge all cases on their own merit. MJ case has nothing to do with anyone else case or vice versa.
 
Interesting ... some of LunaJos Videos get blocked on YouTube.
Two of them were King Jordans Interviews with an very good famous Bodylanguage Expert who works in courts.
She analysied Wades Matt Lauers Interview and said he lied!!
 
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1nn5 said:
A story from the old age.
MYTH: The FBI file reveals that Jackson was investigated in 1985 for molesting two Mexican boys.

FACT: An FBI officer recorded an allegation that the bureau had previously investigated Jackson in 1985 for the molestation of two Mexican boys. This allegation was made by an unnamed writer who said the story had been told to him during research for a book. The FBI searched its records and could find no evidence that any such allegation had ever been reported to them .. but the majority of media outlets failed to mention this important fact. A simple oversight, I'm sure...

http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.com/2010/01/fbi-files-support-jacksons-innocence.html
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Just unbelievable eh. I actually thought the first time a disgusting thing like this was brogut into the world about the man was in the 90s, but nope. Man oh man, this world.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Just unbelievable eh. I actually thought the first time a disgusting thing like this was brogut into the world about the man was in the 90s, but nope. Man oh man, this world.
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Honey, around that time and the record breaking of Thriller, MJ had all kind of stuff coming at him. I never forget the woman called Billie Jean who was all on tv how MJ persude her and fathered her 3 kids. And that was just the tip. Stories sold for hundred of thousands back then.
 
Speed_Demon87 said:
I disagree with this. There would be no point. Everyone has already seen Thriller for the past 35 years.

What they need is a strong rebuttal.

Ps , I heard two mj songs tonight in a restaurant.
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He was played all day today even in the mall.
 
I went out partying today for the first time after Leaving Neverland. The DJ has played MJ already two times tonight (Hold My Hand and Who Is It) and I just came here 50 minutes ago. MJ has never sounded this good!
 
OldFan here from early/mid 2000’s. I haven’t been on here in like a decade. Been lurking on here a while and just wanted to say Hi. I’m
Glad Mj still has such a loyal fan base. The truth will prevail.
 
Here in Atlanta, I've been doing some karaoke last night. I perform "Rock With You" (the key was wrong, but hey, I'll work with it), dancing, and the bar went crazy!
 
terrell said:
Honey, around that time and the record breaking of Thriller, MJ had all kind of stuff coming at him. I never forget the woman called Billie Jean who was all on tv how MJ persude her and fathered her 3 kids. And that was just the tip. Stories sold for hundred of thousands back then.
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Yeah I knew about those but not about the two Mexican boys. Crazy stuff.

I realized something just now. When I watched Making a Murderer a year or two ago on Netflix I went to Reddit and other sites and see what people were saying. Especially on Reddit people were dissecting everything, looking up facts and what not, nowadays it seems the subject of the documentary has a big following and people always checking for stuff. Yet they don't do this for Michael.

I've barely been on Reddit since LN aired and from what I've heard it's a shit show. In fact, I did find one informative discussion about Michael and all the facts but it was actually filled under conspiracy theories subreddit. And it really should be somewhere else, because it's not a theory, it's facts.
 
AG5050 said:
Agreed, stick to facts not conspiracies and speculation. Claiming pictures are photoshopped with no evidence makes us look like fanatical conspiracy theorists.
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Michael's bodyguard posted that the pictures with Safechuch and that woman is not real. That's a fact.
 
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