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The Brad Sunberg Seminar Leak/Theft of 2023

innuendo141 said:
I'm not on any high horse, I love the leaks. But scumbags steal laptops. Also, I just find your bullshit and (literally) mental gymnastics amusing.
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You love the leaks and hate people who make them possible. Talk about having a pie and eating it.
So stealing a laptop is wrong, but hacking into a server is fine? You don't even deserve that horse, here take a morality pony.
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SilkySnare said:
You love the leaks and hate people who make them possible. Talk about having a pie and eating it.
So stealing a laptop is wrong, but hacking into a server is fine? You don't even deserve that horse, here take a morality pony.
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Stop getting so worked up, pet.
 
This thread is just full of people who never downloaded anything illegal and don't even know what an mp3 is.
This community is really pure and blessed and not double standarded.
Gotta find my shades, the positive energy is too much for my eyes.

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Also, Brad's last name is spelled wrong in the title of this thread. Such foreshadowing :D
 
No matter what, theft is theft and it is wrong to do no matter what unless its to help law enforcement or something
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
It’s just something with the beat man. It doesn’t hit as hard as it could. It even seems oddly mixed, like it has been heavily edited with some weird pauses here and there. I don’t know, something just feels a little bit off.
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Yeah it's not finished and hasn't been mixed or mastered properly. That's why it sounds weird.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah it's not finished and hasn't been mixed or mastered properly. That's why it sounds weird.
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I believe this goes beyond the technical aspects of the song. The composition just doesn’t sound that strong imo. Some songs are like that no matter how well they are mixed.by the way I was actually referring to MJ’s vocals when I said that it sounds “edited”. Like a cut and paste job.
 
Production wise, I definitely think it’s a little lacking in certain areas. Live horns would do a lot of good in my eyes, plus maybe some extra drums. Like SmoothGangsta said it’s hard to judge fairly based on an early version that’s unmastered and roughly mixed, but I definitely think it could be truly phenomenal with a bit more finesse. I love it as it stands though. I wonder how much different the original demo is. I know Steve overdubbed live drums and whatnot circa 2021, but I wonder if anything else was changed.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Production wise, I definitely think it’s a little lacking in certain areas. Live horns would do a lot of good in my eyes, plus maybe some extra drums. Like SmoothGangsta said it’s hard to judge fairly based on an early version that’s unmastered and roughly mixed, but I definitely think it could be truly phenomenal with a bit more finesse. I love it as it stands though. I wonder how much different the original demo is. I know Steve overdubbed live drums and whatnot circa 2021, but I wonder if anything else was changed.
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Yeah I agree about the horns, can imagine it would have a lot more impact that way.

I've been curious about this myself. I wonder if he just updated the various elements to sound less demo-ey or if he changed a lot.

He did seem pretty against what the estate are doing so I'd think it was probably the former but who knows.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Production wise, I definitely think it’s a little lacking in certain areas. Live horns would do a lot of good in my eyes, plus maybe some extra drums. Like SmoothGangsta said it’s hard to judge fairly based on an early version that’s unmastered and roughly mixed, but I definitely think it could be truly phenomenal with a bit more finesse. I love it as it stands though. I wonder how much different the original demo is. I know Steve overdubbed live drums and whatnot circa 2021, but I wonder if anything else was changed.
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Agreed. Live horns and maybe strings or guitar licks to spruce it up a bit. Apart from that I don’t think it actually needs to be remixed.
 
Lord Jackson said:
I don't care why or how the word got it's meaning that it has today, all I know is that I correctly used the word to describe Porcaro, who is 65 years old, and obviously doesn't have all of his mental faculties.

I have no idea why you differed the subject to semantics yet here we are....
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Would you care to elaborate on how this is obvious?
 
Agonum said:
Yes, it does. The additional meaning of ‘dementia’ is attested since long, but is due to misusage.

What I’m mostly getting at is your use of the word in regards to Steve. I can buy it if you were using it in its true meaning, but I doubt that’s the case.
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Man's literally trying to gaslight these producers into being feeble old men with their faculties gone so it's easier to intimidate and take advantage of them. Nothing more nothing less really.
 
Would be interessting to know, how much the leaked version differs from the supposedly original version that was "premiered" for the first time in 2014 at a vip dinner after a seminar.

Anyone here who attended the event in LA back in 2014?
 
Lord Jackson said:
I have no idea why you differed the subject to semantics yet here we are....
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Because either you used the word in its true sense (whereupon your original statement becomes weird), or, you used it in it’s secondary sense, in which case you are either a doctor or an ageist.
 
Lord Jackson said:
This injustice makes me wanna scream...


I can only scream to a point, then something must happen.

Cause and effect, as a lot of people said, this would have never had to happen if it wasn't the Estate being so evil.

Or Brad Sundberg/Buxer/Michael Prince/KorgNex/etc. not leaking anything...
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Oh my… “Cause and effect”? I don’t know whether to laugh or cry here.
 
SilkySnare said:
Thank you for the quote. Is there some point you are eluding to, or are we just lost now?
As far as I understand, you wanted to say that if I'm OK with stealing Brad's laptop, sharing the content with the world for free and then returning it, then I should also be OK with someone busting into guy's home and attacking him physically.
I'm still waiting for that comparison to make sense.
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A mental beating can be even worse than a physical.

Where’s the empathy, people?
 
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