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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

MJJuniorSinceMW said:
But it’s a big flop and it was all so difficult being an MJ fan then!“
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A big flop was Tusk by Fleetwood Mac, which was the next album after the blockbuster selling Rumours. Also, after the "Disco Sucks" thing in the late 1970s, the Bee Gees seemed to be banned from the radio in the USA. They got hits from songs they produced like the Dolly Parton & Kenny Rogers duet Island In The Stream, but the group themselves never had much success in the USA past 1980. Many radio stations in the USA stopped playing Queen after they made that music video where they were in drag. In a similar way, the popularity of rock singer Billy Squire was said to drop fast after his Rock Me Tonight video.
 
DuranDuran said:
It was Whitney Houston that was booed at the Soul Train Awards one year though, not Mike. In Living Color had a parody skit about Whitney called Rhythmless Nation (set to Janet's Rhythm Nation). How was he dropped by the Black community when Get It the duet with Stevie Wonder made the Top 5 on the R&B chart, but only #80 on the Hot 100 (pop) chart? Plus R&B radio played non-single songs like Why You Wanna Trip On Me, Can't Let Her Get Away, & She Drives Me Wild. R&B stations did mostly ignore songs like Heal The World. Probably because it did not fit the hip hop & New Jack Swing era tracks of the time. Mike also got positive features in Ebony, Jet, Right On! & other Black publications when the white ones like Rolling Stone was saying he had the worst comeback. As far as the "white" part of your comment, R&B radio was playing George Michael, Teena Marie, Jane Child, Sheena Easton, Hall & Oates, Nu Shooz, Taylor Dayne, Pet Shop Boys, Dino, Falco, Beastie Boys, Tara Kemp, etc. plus Latino acts like Exposé, The Cover Girls, Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam, Gloria Estefan. In the mid 1980s, Soul Train was even playing songs like Jump by Van Halen & BET was showing Huey Lewis & The News music videos.

Some Black people did feel that Mike & others like Tina Turner, Prince, Lionel Richie, Billy Ocean, Whitney Houston, etc, watered down their music to get the mainstream (code for white) sales. But that had to do with their music, not their looks. Even then they still got R&B airplay, well maybe not Tina so much. Back in the 1960s Motown was accused of the same thing & other labels like Stax & Chess were considered more Black sounding. What the Black audience in general did abandon was blues & jazz music, starting in the 1960s. It was the white British Invasion acts that would have the blues artists open for them and their careers were resurrected and got a new younger white hippy audience.
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I think the previous message made a reference about how peoples have reacted to his extreme physical change, and it was seen in the Black community, that don't mean there were an active boycott, but that don't change the fact lot of fans have felt that like a treason:





In the last video we see these young peoples who didn't like the album; that not a big deal, but it was during this time something usual that he have lost his touch.
 
blair said:
I think the previous message made a reference about how peoples have reacted to his extreme physical change, and it was seen in the Black community, that don't mean there were an active boycott, but that don't change the fact lot of fans have felt that like a treason:

In the last video we see these young peoples who didn't like the album; that not a big deal, but it was during this time something usual that he have lost his touch.
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All that is the white mainstream media, what does it have to do with Black people? There is a reason that there's separate media & TV networks for Black people, Latinos. Asians, etc. They don't get the same coverage with the white media in the USA. They have to crossover to the mainstream. There's artists who were very popular with Black audience in the USA, but are little known to Top 40 listeners like Teddy Pendergrass, The Bar-Kays, & Maze. They got little if any writeups in Rolling Stone, Spin, or Creem magazines. The white media praise Elvis Presley, but has little to say about the singers who influenced him like Roy Hamilton & Jackie Wilson. Listen to them and then listen to Elvis.
 
DuranDuran said:
All that is the white mainstream media, what does it have to do with Black people? There is a reason that there's separate media & TV networks for Black people, Latinos. Asians, etc. They don't get the same coverage with the white media in the USA. They have to crossover to the mainstream. There's artists who were very popular with Black audience in the USA, but are little known to Top 40 listeners like Teddy Pendergrass, The Bar-Kays, & Maze. They got little if any writeups in Rolling Stone, Spin, or Creem magazines. The white media praise Elvis Presley, but has little to say about the singers who influenced him like Roy Hamilton & Jackie Wilson. Listen to them and then listen to Elvis.
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The guy from billboard, Nelson George, in the first video talked about the backlash from the Black communities, nobody have talked about the various media but we talk about normal Black peoples, I don't see why you are focused about that.
 
blair said:
The guy from billboard, Nelson George, in the first video talked about the backlash from the Black communities, nobody have talked about the various media but we talk about normal Black peoples, I don't see why you are focused about that.
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Billboard is a mainstream publication, not a Black one like Ebony or Right On!.. It doesn't really matter what race the people working for it are. There was a Black VJ on early MTV when they weren't showing music videos by Black artists.
 
DuranDuran said:
Billboard is a mainstream publication, not a Black one like Ebony or Right On!.. It doesn't really matter what race the people working for it are. There was a Black VJ on early MTV when they weren't showing music videos by Black artists.
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Okay but it's not about Black media or not, but about the reaction of Black peoples, that change nothing if the info is from the mainstream media.
 
Hot_Street said:
Joseph may appear to be pure evil, but he probably also had good sides that the biopic could take into account:
I remember I told you the one time he picked me up and put me on a pony. I don't think he even realized how that is marked in my brain forever.
The Michael Jackson Tapes, page 81
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That's actually a rather sad story considering that the reason it was such an important memory for Michael is because he said it was the only memory he had of Joseph showing him love, so he hung onto it and kept reliving it to cope with all the unloving things his father did. Only one memory during his whole childhood, that's pretty bad...

Shmuley: "He only has one memory of his father ever doing anything loving for him as a child. He was about 5 years old, he was at a carnival, and his father picked him up and put him on a horse. And he said he has relived that moment almost every day of his life. Michael learned the devastating effects of neglecting a child."
 
I think we might get to see that scene of Joseph picking up Michael and putting him on a pony, because they seem to be performing at a carnival here:

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Did anyone else find it weird how Jaafar spoke about Michael and Katherine like he wasn't related to them 😅 it wasn't"my uncle Michael" or "my Grandma Katherine", he spoke like he had to research them to find out about them
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
Did anyone else find it weird how Jaafar spoke about Michael and Katherine like he wasn't related to them 😅 it wasn't"my uncle Michael" or "my Grandma Katherine", he spoke like he had to research them to find out about them
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You could say that the Michael he is portraying on film is very different to the one he knew - Jaafar was born in '96 so most of his childhood memories of his Uncle will be from the period surrounding the arrest in '03 and the trial in '05.

Not to say that he won't be pulling from his own experiences of Michael, but as we all know a lot changed between the '80s and 2000s
 
I guess Jaafar is going to be the 1st second generation Jackson to really make the big time unlike the others:

Austin Brown
Dealz
Billie Bodega
Marlon Jr. (in hip hop group M.D.P.)
Paris Jackson

I heard that 3T was popular in the UK. But they weren't that successful in the USA. Jermaine Jr. was in The Jacksons: An American Dream, but I don't think he did anything in show business after that.
 
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