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The Official 'Michael' Bio-Pic Thread

If I had them, I would rather see a concert film about the history tour Prague 96, which was also planned, would be more important to me than a biopic
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
Considering Janet is not on board at all with this film , her reaction is to be expected.

I’m more concerned about the comments regarding the acting and make up.

The biggest though was the mention that we’re all looking for that moment again , and it’s Michael, but he’s not even here or something along those lines!

I hope they did not mean that despite a good portrayal from Jaafar, it still lacked that magic that the real MJ brought
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Ngl... im rolling janet
 
innuendo141 said:
I wasn't worried about the makeup until I saw that picture of Jafaar in the Beat It scene beside Antoine if I'm honest. That was one of the things I thought would have been spot on.
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That's how i feel about the bad tour footage. He looks like jp from power book force! Tf
 
One thing I will probably never understand about this family and I’m saying this after seeing the latest news about Janet and Jermaine! I know the Jackson family was never near to perfect. Michael himself didn’t always have the easiest relationship with them and sometimes he clearly tried to stay away from the family drama? But what I don’t understand is this, now that Michael is gone, why can’t they just come together once and do something as a family for him? I mean all of them like the Jackson siblings, Michael’s kids, just come together and create something in his memory? It doesn’t have to be anything huge or global. It could be a documentary, a film, an album, anything really. Just a space where they talk about Michael, share their memories, say the things they maybe never had the chance to say to him when he was alive. Because right now it feels like everyone just does their own thing and then when a project comes out someone else suddenly has a problem with it. That’s what confuses me, If someone doesn’t want to be involved, fine then stay quiet but why come out later and create more mess around it? I truly believe that if the whole family actually came together and made something together for Michael, the fans would feel that love immediately. Because then it wouldn’t feel like separate opinions and separate projects! Right now it just feels like pieces going in different directions and then coming back only to argue about who is right
 
Maturerastan said:
One thing I will probably never understand about this family and I’m saying this after seeing the latest news about Janet and Jermaine! I know the Jackson family was never near to perfect. Michael himself didn’t always have the easiest relationship with them and sometimes he clearly tried to stay away from the family drama? But what I don’t understand is this, now that Michael is gone, why can’t they just come together once and do something as a family for him? I mean all of them like the Jackson siblings, Michael’s kids, just come together and create something in his memory? It doesn’t have to be anything huge or global. It could be a documentary, a film, an album, anything really. Just a space where they talk about Michael, share their memories, say the things they maybe never had the chance to say to him when he was alive. Because right now it feels like everyone just does their own thing and then when a project comes out someone else suddenly has a problem with it. That’s what confuses me, If someone doesn’t want to be involved, fine then stay quiet but why come out later and create more mess around it? I truly believe that if the whole family actually came together and made something together for Michael, the fans would feel that love immediately. Because then it wouldn’t feel like separate opinions and separate projects! Right now it just feels like pieces going in different directions and then coming back only to argue about who is right
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That would be great but I think it's not that easy to "just come together" when there are some conflicts going on. We don't know everything that happened or happens between them, so we can't judge from the outside. Sometimes there are barriers that can't be broken down so easily. Especially in families.
 
The biopic will be a (somewhat) fictitious movie, so the decision of Branca to do a biopic instead of a documentary remains a missed oppurtunity to me.
Sure documentaries are becoming a bit out of fashion by now, but there must be something where the general public can learn the facts about MJ and his tribulations with actual MJ footage?
 
NEWS REPORT FOR YESTERDAY PRE-SALES:

fans flooded ticketing platforms at exactly
9:00 AM ET building the anticipation for the movie that has already broken records before
its première.

major platforms including fandango and amc,
reported virtual queues within the first 120
seconds of the drop.

in higj-density markets like New-York,
los-angeles,and London, wait times for peak
showtimes hovered between 12 and 22
minutes.

as of 7:30 PM ET seat maps for major
metropolitan imax hubs specifically Lincoln
square ( nyc) and tlc chinese theatre ( LA)-
are reporting huge sellout rates.

Lincoln, specifically,just had to add another
imax showing due to the demand.

this launch was strategically timed to
coincide with the anniversary of Billie Jean's
MTV debut.

this heritage marketing drove a 350% in
Standard morning traffic compared to
typical blockbuster pre-sales,according
to early technical load reports.

AMC Lincoln added a second early imax
screening for Michael today due to the sales
of the first showing& tickets are moving
very fast in a short time.

this looks like another sellout coming.
UNREAL,if this demand holds internationally
then 1.6-2B is in play.
 
dam2040 said:

This is so so exciting!!
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I don't really know if I agree with Coleman Domingo's views on Joe Jackson's 'humanity': Yes of course Joseph was also formed by his generation and social upbringing but from all accounts known about him he mostly comes off as a sociopath to me; unable to have emphathy and merely in it for himself instead of 'wanting the best for his children'
 
Victorious said:
I don't really know if I agree with Coleman Domingo's views on Joe Jackson's 'humanity': Yes of course Joseph was also formed by his generation and social upbringing but from all accounts known about him he mostly comes off as a sociopath to me; unable to have emphathy and merely in it for himself instead of 'wanting the best for his children'
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Whatever makes him feel better about playing a pretty horrible person.
 
Victorious said:
The concerts, videos ,merchandise, adoration, press, Michael became the most famous person on the planet during the Bad era
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No it's not, it was during the Thriller era, Bad was probably one of the worst moment of his career in term of reputation, it was here that he was seen no more like an artist but simply like someone crazy.
 
blair said:
No it's not, it was during the Thriller era, Bad was probably one of the worst moment of his career in term of reputation, it was here that he was seen no more like an artist but simply like someone crazy.
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I really think we can leave this conversation. You are reading way too much into it and upsetting yourself for a reason that's beyond me.
 
blair said:
No it's not, it was during the Thriller era, Bad was probably one of the worst moment of his career in term of reputation, it was here that he was seen no more like an artist but simply like someone crazy.
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I think Dangeorus era post allegations and beyond were prob the worst moments in his career in terms of reputation.

BAD, whilst never selling as much as Thriller - was still a massive success filled with classic hit singles and the iconic BAD tour. He was larger than life during this period and this is where his true god like status came from.

He was bigger, more famous , more fans freaking out over him etc , I’d say it was his peak as a fully fledged solo artist.
 
Blues_Away2023 said:
I think Dangeorus era post allegations and beyond were prob the worst moments in his career in terms of reputation.

BAD, whilst never selling as much as Thriller - was still a massive success filled with classic hit singles and the iconic BAD tour. He was larger than life during this period and this is where his true god like status came from.

He was bigger, more famous , more fans freaking out over him etc , I’d say it was his peak as a fully fledged solo artist.
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Sorry but that not true; it was a very weird moment where peoples asked why he have changed his apperance drastically, why the way he sang have changed, his black fans were extremely upset by that; but not just them; it was a very complicated situation; that the begin of the mockery.

During Thriller he was already iconic and way more popular, fans ware already crazy during Thriller and before; it was nothing news; I don't see where he was more popular during Bad that during Victory for example; he was not more famous during Bad than before.

@innuendo141

okay no problem, thanks for the replies.
 
Victorious said:
I don't really know if I agree with Coleman Domingo's views on Joe Jackson's 'humanity': Yes of course Joseph was also formed by his generation and social upbringing but from all accounts known about him he mostly comes off as a sociopath to me; unable to have emphathy and merely in it for himself instead of 'wanting the best for his children'
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Joseph may appear to be pure evil, but he probably also had good sides that the biopic could take into account:
I remember I told you the one time he picked me up and put me on a pony. I don't think he even realized how that is marked in my brain forever.
The Michael Jackson Tapes, page 81

However, I would find it shocking if the biopic included a scene like that:
Janet and myself, we used to say (...) picture Joesph in a coffin. He's dead. Did you feel sorry? She'd go "No."
The Michael Jackson Tapes, page 91
 
blair said:
I take that like a compliment specially if we talk the grammys in the 80's.

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The true question is, if what happened that night was fair? If the voters were serious in their assessment?

Because if you look at the winners of that night, some of those decisions are ridiculous.
Especially if you compare those nominated songs/albums/artists and apply cultural impact, historic success & timelessness with MJ and the Bad project.

Bad defined the late eighties, if not the eighties in general. 11 songs (9 of them self penned), 9 singles, 5 consecutive #1 hits, a plethora of iconic music videos, the biggest world tour in history (at that time), the adoration, the frenzy, the mystic, MICHAELMANIA, peak..

In the eyes of most (the industry & media) MJ had too much success already with Thriller. So they tried to put him in his place, in every which way possible. The grammys was one of the most blatant cases in showing that.

If you look at artists nowadays, with there ridiculous amounts of Grammy wins for projects nobody is talking about anymore even a year later, let alone in 30 or 40 years, it’s painfully obvious.

Sorry for the long ass rant.
But sometimes guys in here need to take off their blinders, look at the big picture and be aware of the truth.
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
The true question is, if what happened that night was fair? If the voters were serious in their assessment?

Because if you look at the winners of that night, some of those decisions are ridiculous.
Especially if you compare those nominated songs/albums/artists and apply cultural impact, historic success & timelessness with MJ and the Bad project.

Bad defined the late eighties, if not the eighties in general. 11 songs (9 of them self penned), 9 singles, 5 consecutive #1 hits, a plethora of iconic music videos, the biggest world tour in history (at that time), the adoration, the frenzy, the mystic, MICHAELMANIA, peak..

In the eyes of most (the industry & media) MJ had too much success already with Thriller. So they tried to put him in his place, in every which way possible. The grammys was one of the most blatant cases in showing that.

If you look at artists nowadays, with there ridiculous amounts of Grammy wins for projects nobody is talking about anymore even a year later, let alone in 30 or 40 years, it’s painfully obvious.

Sorry for the long ass rant.
But sometimes guys in here need to take off their blinders, look at the big picture and be aware of the truth.
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To be alive during this time, sorry but it was not the MICHAELMANIA in his peak, far from it; sorry I will repeat again it was not the case, the mystic around him during his time was not see something good, he was considered like someone crazy.

That your interpretation, but imo the grammy was fair for Bad, it was seen like not really a letdown, yes the success was because it was the next album of Michael Jackson after Thriller; but it was not seen like a very good album during this times; imo Smokey Robinson deserved his award.

We are the World has an award the year before, so I don't think they wanted to punish Michael (okay the context was different).
 
I dont understand this in retrospect and why the people at the time felt like that. Michael was in his absolute prime in terms of looks in the bad era, like really stunningly handsome.
But I was too little, I discoverd him with Dangerous.
The edgyness of bad compared to thriller was a good thing.
 
time.com

People: Feb. 29, 1988

Bad, as all hipsters know, can also mean good. But when it comes to Michael Jackson, a lot of music fans think Bad is positively the worst. In a poll of 23,000 readers released by Rolling Stone this...
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"But when it comes to Michael Jackson, a lot of music fans think Bad is positively the worst. In a poll of 23,000 readers released by Rolling Stone this week, the Gloved One hit rock bottom in eight categories, including “worst male singer,” “worst dressed,” “worst album ((Bad))” and “worst single ((Bad)).” The backlash has more to do with the singer’s quirky personality than his music, says Rolling Stone Music Editor David Wild: “People are responding negatively to his image and to the hype. The category he should have won is ‘worst image’ or ‘least understood.’"
 
Blair Witch Project:
Okey buddy. Sure.

I don’t know what you’re talking about.

But maybe you take a look at some of the nominees and winners that night:

30th Annual Grammy Awards - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

• Graceland (Paul Simon) won record of the year 🤭

And maybe you search out some news clips from 1987/88/89 in regards to MJ and the bad tour. Or just watch the BRACE YOURSELF montage.

I don’t know where you are based.
But(t) maybe you should look at the Bad era from more of an international/standpoint, rather than an North American point of view.

The Bad album is the second best selling album of all time by a male solo artist.

To call that ANYTHING else than a mega success, from which ever stand point you’re maybe coming from („ yada yada, the follow up to an even bigger success, yada yada yada“), is delusional at best, bordering malicious at worst.
 
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blair said:
time.com

People: Feb. 29, 1988

Bad, as all hipsters know, can also mean good. But when it comes to Michael Jackson, a lot of music fans think Bad is positively the worst. In a poll of 23,000 readers released by Rolling Stone this...
time.com time.com

"But when it comes to Michael Jackson, a lot of music fans think Bad is positively the worst. In a poll of 23,000 readers released by Rolling Stone this week, the Gloved One hit rock bottom in eight categories, including “worst male singer,” “worst dressed,” “worst album ((Bad))” and “worst single ((Bad)).” The backlash has more to do with the singer’s quirky personality than his music, says Rolling Stone Music Editor David Wild: “People are responding negatively to his image and to the hype. The category he should have won is ‘worst image’ or ‘least understood.’"
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🤣 I wouldn’t call it healthy, having THAT perspective, calling myself a fan of MJ …

I‘d say: Haters bring on the hate. 🤣

 
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