I cant see the video Shila.
How odd. Here's the link (trying again)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CkETwJY1U
Staford Bullterrier said:
Ok so that photo could be a faker and the real one was at Larry King
I'm revisiting all of this...it was two years ago when I first was considering these things, so I'm trying to remember my thoughts on this at the time.
I felt that both the LK Dave Dave and the Dave Dave on MySpace were not the real Dave Dave. And they also were not the same person. So I am discussing three different Dave Daves. Could my conclusions be ridiculous and very inaccurate...absolutely! Dave Dave could end up totally laughing at me and wondering how I could have such times on my hand to waste. lol. But I will communicate to you why I thought what I did.
First of all I remember (and it's unfortunate that I have not saved anything and am going to have to try to gather stuff on this again, which I'll do as I construct this post) when observing Dave Dave on Larry King that his shoulders looks unnaturally wide.
(btw, the MySpace Dave Dave has narrow shoulders)
I thought that something was being worn underneath the clothing to acheive that. However...then, I watched a special piece some news program did on Dave Dave at the time of the the burial and LK interview (which I thought was strange in itself). In this bit it briefly talked about Dave Rothenberg's being a past burn victim (along wht what he is up to these days) and showed some footage of his father, who had done this horrible thing to him, in his jail clothes. He has wide shoulders:
So it is possible that Dave Dave could have inherited these same wide shoulders. Just trying to be objective.
But there is one thing Dave Dave most definitely inherited and that is a distinctive eye shape. The lid on the outside of the eyes drop down at an angle which affects the shape.
It's difficult to see on the teenage Dave Dave due to the frames of his glasses.
Here's another pic of him as a boy with MJ. Aww, cute.
How loving of Michael. This is why I think MJ's kindness and kind of heart would have rubbed off on Dave Dave. But inevitably, everyone has to take their own road and are responsible for their own heart attitudes. Even members here on the site evaluating Frank Cascio...well, he, too, grew up with MJ as his teacher and model, but Frank is his own separate person. MJ can only influence others so much. Then it's up to the person to become who they decide to become within.
Back to the person on MySpace. I had a major check that someone who had spent to so much time with MJ would as an adult turn around and try to take advantage of MJ's fans by pulling on the heart strings. This character posted pics of his supposed cousin who needed help in the area of rehabilitation costs and this Dave Dave asked that each fan be willing to send in $5.00. Does this not spell out scam? Someone with the correct heart would not do that, and MJ I cannot imagine would condone this.
Now as I indicated above,when I watch the Leeza Gibbons interview my heart feels warm...a good feeling comes over me when I listen to Dave Dave. But whenever I visited that MySpace I got a sick feeling in my stomach. Something felt quite wrong. The pics that were posted by the Dave Dave there, only about two looked to me like they could be the actual Dave Dave. I don't have all the pics, I didn't save them, but I did just now find this one that I remember was posted there:
Notice the consistant eyelid slant.
The rest of the pics posted on that MySpace account the individual stayed looking like the guy in the scarf, the pic where I had pointed out had two different eye colors.
Here, compare the one I feel is the real Dave Dave to the MySpace Dave Dave (who has no eyelid slant, but more rounded eye shape):
And notice the softer expression in the eyes on the Dave Dave on the left compared to the character on the right. Someone pointed out in a post above regarding scarf guy's ears. Even in his pics they vary, and the markings on his face seemed to me to vary. Again, I'm sorry I am unable to pull up all the pics of this Dave Dave from his MySpace.
Once again, I wish to beobjective, and I understand the applying of make-up enters into this. The young Dave Dave on Leeza Gibbons obviously had a good deal of make-up to help even his skin and cover a lot of the scarring. It's possible Dave Dave through the years did do that at times and could have himself have had his skin appear different pic to pic. On Larry King, he specifically mentions to Dave Dave that he is wearing a lot of make-up to help cover up the scarring. So this is why I looked to more than just what the scarring markings were doing, but what I was picking up in the eyes and expression and such.
Now, the brown-eyed Dave Dave on Larry King (whose eyes were more rounded also and did not have that disctinctive slant). So let's be objective again. Could the real Dave Dave have wanted to be more like MJ, that very somber day of Michael's burial, by having his mannerisms and voice inflections come close to his friend's, and even honor his friend further, by putting in brown contact lenses to cover his natural blue/green eyes in order to have brown eyes like Michael's?
Hmm. That kinda seems like strange behavior.
Or was the real Dave Dave wishing to play with MJ's fans?
Hmm. That seems a bit insensitive on such a day as that was for his grieving fans. Why would the real Dave Dave choose on that day to wear brown lenses?
Now some brought up the point that even greenish eyes, if a little deeper or darker in color, in some photos can come off brown. But I again, enlarged a captured still from the Larry King interview and saw the brown pixels. The eyes were brown there...for certain. No getting around it. Or how I like to say, no explaining this one away. Was this Dave Dave then, Michael Jackson? Well, how could it have been? I know a lot of people would bring up Dave Dave's very altered hands after the tragic burning...
So there you have some things to think about, and I hope it helps for you to at least come to your own conclusions, or maybe decide as Ashtanga often says (she's so cute, and she's right!) that there is just too much strangeness going on and it seems impossible to make any conclusions when nothing seems to make sense!
I personally feel this thread should be merged into the
The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and other theories thread, for I feel it is a good thing to have all things that controversally talk of the possibilty of MJ being alive, like this thread sort of does, put in only one place on MJJC and that being in only one thread. This would ensure that those who don't wish to be seeing this kind of discussion happening in threads all around the site, and even all through this Conspiracy Forum, won't have to, for it will just be taking place in one lone thread. Fewer will be annoyed or offended that way and can choose to not view the Hoax Theory Thread if they disapprove of things being discussed there. I think it is being the most fair and considerate to all concerned.
Here is a link to view the short piece on Dave Rothenburg filmed at the time of the burial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgETjAJgvCA&feature=related
