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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Ape said:
I'm off to bed, but just before I go I wanted to thank you for those lovely posts Allformj. :) Very nice. Also yes Mystygrl I agree with you that she is still unidentified. :)

Goodnight everyone! :hug:
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You're welcome, Ape.

cleopatra1975 said:
very good post allformj.you know i read many times on forums that someone said she knows michael or saw him or is his gf but never it felt sooo real.. i really felt his presence in your posts...wow
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Thanks, cleopatra1975. I don't know MJ personally, but I've been a fan since the days that he was singing "ABC" and I've lucked up a few times...had a chance to see him on stage and off stage. I was hoping to be as descriptive as I can while posting about this day from '79 so you guys can get a feel of that day. Meeting him was a lot of fun.

By the way, cleopatra1975, that was a very nice reading that you did. Kudos!
 
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Sdeidjs said:
I believe it has more to do with taken care of business, getting things in order, doing things the proper way, so when the time is right they will show the world "how much they absolutely cherish, adore, and "truly love" each other "NOT" for who they are... but for the how's, the why's, and what they have "always been" about..!"

:angel:Truth Of Justice
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Yeah, you can feel him putting the pieces of his life back in place. Yep! His other marriages did not go the way that he hoped that they would. If he's going to try it again, he's going to try and make sure it gets a chance to work this time.

Third time is a charm. :yes:

Lily said:
IMO to me his happiness is newer and truly real and that he's transitioned on from things in the past. He's making difficult, positive and important changes and seems to be moving forward, as we all have to do at one point or another in our lives. He seems different, more confident to me, and I think new love is the reason for his glowing aura and smile lately. He's changed all the energy around him for the better and it shows. :) Maybe his new music will provide more clues? Who knows. :)
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It's showing a lot, isn't it? You know, in his song "Beautiful Girl," he sings a line that says, "Can't you see that I'm in love with you. Real love with you. Real love." This came to mind while reading your post.

I'm sure looking forward to hearing his newly recorded love songs. He seems to have a lot on his mind as far as the love arena goes.
:yes: :popcorn:
 
AllForMJ said:
Yeah, you can feel him putting the pieces of his life back in place. Yep! His other marriages did not go the way that he hoped that they would. If he's going to try it again, he's going to try and make sure it gets a chance to work this time.

Third time is a charm. :yes:


It's showing a lot, isn't it? You know, in his song "Beautiful Girl," he sings a line that says, "Can't you see that I'm in love with you. Real love with you. Real love." This came to mind while reading your post.

I'm sure looking forward to hearing his newly recorded love songs. He seems to have a lot on his mind as far as the love arena goes.
:yes: :popcorn:
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This makes me even more excited to hear the new songs. If that is what he wrote back then earlier in the relationship (possibly at the start, if we go by your theory of it AllforMJ) then imagine what they will be like now. So much deeper I think. Really looking forward to hearing how things have progressed since then :)
 
MJzPrincess1982 said:
:lol: Okay..

I drew the six of Swords. To me that resembles her leaving her old life for a new one. She has either moved herself, physically, or maybe even changed herself, in some way, to please Michael.

Which brings me to my final card: The Fool. It was foolsh of her to do so, to change herself for him, because it brought about folly. It was not wise. She fallowed him somewhere, he took control, and somehow got them into trouble (read above, where I stated that he and her were in bondage). And also according to my previous readings about their relationship, they do break free because he is preparing himself and his life for THEIR future, Right now, this very second. :)

Ape: What I get is that they have VERY similar motives and goals but their personalities tend to clash. They both HATE being told what to do and having other ppl control them but they both LOVE to give charity and themselves to help others. That is the perfect union, IMO, one that is deep, spiritual, and abounding in love. They do not want to hide themselves, but to share. It's just hard, sometimes, to do just that.
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This Reading is very interesting. And you know what elese? Michael has already told us; the "Sword" card (meaning) was true! In the haunting song, "Who is it", Michael sings this: "And she didn't leave a letter, she just up and ran away". She did in fact move herself and left her old life and in doing so, she left him as well. Not only is it apparant in "Who is it" but her leaving the relationship is also played out in Michael's own words from his poetry in the book, "Dancing the Dream".
 
Lily said:
IMO to me his happiness is newer and truly real and that he's transitioned on from things in the past. He's making difficult, positive and important changes and seems to be moving forward, as we all have to do at one point or another in our lives. He seems different, more confident to me, and I think new love is the reason for his glowing aura and smile lately. He's changed all the energy around him for the better and it shows. :) Maybe his new music will provide more clues? Who knows. :)
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Yes! Lily this post is on point with many of Michael's very own clues and I agree with what you have said here.
Michael has transitioned from the past and is clearly moving "forward". He is much more confident and happy these days!
Michael has given off clues that he feels "One" with the object of his desire. Thats enough to make any man feel jubilant and harmonious and ready to take on the world!
I also agree with those in this thread, who have stated he is looking forward to the future; I think that came from the tarot reading? as well as our own interpratations prior to that:
Something, Randy Philiips of AEG said this week that stuck out to me and reminded me of something I personally went through with my "husband to be "before we got married.
I can't remember which interview or the exact quote from Randy but he(randy) was making an attempt to explain Michael's very own reason for agreeing to do the residency in London.
Randy said (not exact words)-Michael wanted to prepare for the future.
This was the same article that first publically stated how much money Michael could get when these dates were all over-up to $500 million.
Why did that remind me of something personal before my own marriage? Because, most Men who were raised a certain way, will ONLY MARRY the woman who holds their heart if they feel they can truly take care of her. They want to be financially set in order to give her the life they feel she deserves. A man who is a real man, will NOT feel good about entering into a marriage if his finances don't look good. A man who is about to take that plunge will want a nice cushioned "nest egg". He won't feel like a complete man with a complete bank account and that varies depending on the man, his accomplishments, his career and what he knows he can financially bring to the table.
That one comment from Randy of AEG reminded me of specific things before I got married, not only that but it also reminded me of things posted by AllForMJ in regard to how Michael is getting "things in order".
In 2007 either it was will.i.am or someone elese reported to have been working with Michael on new stuff said something very similar to what Randy of AEG stated. They too said something about Michael looking forward to the "future" and they also went on to say something about "how" he was applying himself in order to make these things become a reality for him-which reminded me of what MJzprincess1982 said about one of the cards she pulled during a "reading".
The Tarot card reading and our own interpretations all link in to what those who are working closely with Michael; are saying about him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
Wow...love all the posts in this thread...most intriguing...

In my opinion, they "both" have finally come to understand that they are truly "Not Alone"...

:cheers:
 
Moddie777 said:
Yes! Lily this post is on point with many of Michael's very own clues and I agree with what you have said here.
Michael has transitioned from the past and is clearly moving "forward". He is much more confident and happy these days!
Michael has given off clues that he feels "One" with the object of his desire. Thats enough to make any man feel jubilant and harmonious and ready to take on the world!
I also agree with those in this thread, who have stated he is looking forward to the future; I think that came from the tarot reading? as well as our own interpratations prior to that:
Something, Randy Philiips of AEG said this week that stuck out to me and reminded me of something I personally went through with my "husband to be "before we got married.
I can't remember which interview or the exact quote from Randy but he(randy) was making an attempt to explain Michael's very own reason for agreeing to do the residency in London.
Randy said (not exact words)-Michael wanted to prepare for the future.
This was the same article that first publically stated how much money Michael could get when these dates were all over-up to $500 million.
Why did that remind me of something personal before my own marriage? Because, most Men who were raised a certain way, will ONLY MARRY the woman who holds their heart if they feel they can truly take care of her. They want to be financially set in order to give her the life they feel she deserves. A man who is a real man, will NOT feel good about entering into a marriage if his finances don't look good. A man who is about to take that plunge will want a nice cushioned "nest egg". He won't feel like a complete man with a complete bank account and that varies depending on the man, his accomplishments, his career and what he knows he can financially bring to the table.
That one comment from Randy of AEG reminded me of specific things before I got married, not only that but it also reminded me of things posted by AllForMJ in regard to how Michael is getting "things in order".
In 2007 either it was will.i.am or someone elese reported to have been working with Michael on new stuff said something very similar to what Randy of AEG stated. They too said something about Michael looking forward to the "future" and they also went on to say something about "how" he was applying himself in order to make these things become a reality for him-which reminded me of what MJzprincess1982 said about one of the cards she pulled during a "reading".
The Tarot card reading and our own interpretations all link in to what those who are working closely with Michael; are saying about him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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I think, for her; Mr.Jacksons sweetheart could "really and truly careless" if he were monertarily rich, penniless, worldly known, or a joe smoe on the street...

:angel:I bet...More than anything...It's all about his pure heart..!

Smiles~~~
 
AllForMJ said:
:lol:

Guess what much of the hang up has been?! I've changed my mind about the photo of the other limo that I had found! Sorrrrryyyy!!! LOL I changed my mind about the other one because it has a chauffeur standing next to it and the chauffeur is standing there holding the door open.

After MJ came out of the radio station following his live interview, he did not have anyone walk over to the limo with him because of what I had said to him when he came out. He walked to the limo by himself. He opened the door himself, and then he got inside and left it that way. I feel if I include the photo that has a chauffeur next to the door, it will change the whole vibe and will no longer be an up close and personal moment with MJ. It will instead be me, MJ and that chauffeur, and that's not how that moment in time went. So, I've decided to search the web a little longer. Ya know...go the extra mile. lol

Look at what I found while searching!!! *smiling*

This limo that I ran across this time is also very similar to the one that MJ was being driven around in that day. Since this limo also looks much like the one that he was in, I thought I'd go ahead and post a link to it so you all can take a look at it.

According to the website that I found it on, this limo is a 1977 Cadillac Fleetwood 75. The website says it was used in a movie that was filmed in 1989 which I think is kinda cool. Also, without being able to see the picture that my cousin took of MJ walking to the actual limo that he was in, I can't exactly remember if it was a Cadi or not. But, I know this limo is pretty close to the one that was being used to transport MJ around the Bay Area. As for the year of the one MJ was in, I wouldn't be surprised at all if that one was a '79 model.

Now, I'm gonna put the story of my day of MJ on rewind a tad bit. I really like this late '70s limo. I like it a lot because of the angle that this photo was taken and because it is parked with all the doors closed and the windows rolled up. It gives me a chance to show you guys how MJ's limo was just sitting there on the street waiting before I walked over to it the first time. The limo driver still had the motor running because he was trying to get MJ to the next place.

With this photo I can also show you what side of the car I walked up to when I went over to tell him about the girls that were fighting each other over him in front of the club that he had just performed "Rock With You" in. Those girls were having what many would call a cat fight!! They were over there fighting about a guy, and that guy just happened to be MJ. lol I mean, they were really trippin', y'all! lol

The window that I walked up to was on the driver's side of the car as you will immediately be able to tell when you look at this photo. It seems like MJ was the one that had pressed the button to lower the window, because after it went down, he was sitting right near it and he was looking straight at me as soon as it went down. My heart skipped a beat, you guys, because it was so unexpected. I didn't have any reaction time. It was just window went down, there was MJ. LOL Then, he got all shy on me. Awwwwww.

He has really beautiful eyes. They are especially beautiful during the day when you can really see them. And when he gives a certain look, his eyes can also be very piercing, so I was really caught off guard by that. But, at the same time, I was trying not to melt on the spot. Michael is so damn gorgeous!! It's just ridiculous!! LOL *sigh* Then, when he gets shy, everything instantly switches. You know you're standing there with someone that is very famous, but he's not acting like someone that's famous. He's totally meek.

Still, I wasn't expecting him to be sitting right there. For some reason, I thought maybe he would be sitting on the other side or in the middle, and I wasn't expecting the window to go all the way down either, but down it went and there he was. All gorgeous, shy and sitting in total silence.

Here's the link to the photo that will give you a chance to join me on this part of the trip down memory lane again before getting back to radio station. It was during this time that I received the autographed picture of MJ that was handed to me by the man that was sitting next to the other door. I still have the picture to this very day.

The window that went down is the center one. MJ was sitting back next to the small window that you'll see. He was sitting to the right of where I was standing and that's why it was easy for me to feel and see him staring at me though he thought I didn't notice. He was so busted! LOL

http://imcdb.org/vehicle_102230-Cadillac-Fleetwood-75-1977.html

MJ is someone that has been living a very extraordinary and fast paced life. He's done a lot of things over the years, has been to a lot of places and he's met scores of people along the way. There is no way he can remember every single person that he's met. No one can retain that much information. It's humanly impossible. But, since he just happened to have passed through my life one day while he was out doing what he does, I am slowing that day down so I can tell you guys all about it. It was a lot of fun!

Guess what just dawned on me?! It's because of the girls fighting in front of the club that no one coming out of the club noticed that MJ was not gone. The people that came out of the club were standing there watching the fight. MJ was sitting in the limo around the corner. After he came out and got into the car, the driver drove off, turned right, stopped and sat there because I had my cousin blow the horn. Oh well, funny how some things go. lol

Now, I still have another photo to find so we can get back to the radio station, sit in the doorway of his limo, scan our eyes over him from head to toe and give him that little piece of paper so he can leave and go to wherever he went to after that. LOL

Poor Mike. He can't even be gorgeous in peace because of us girls being girls!!
:lol: :wub:

Until next time... :D

Oh, and hey! I just wanna say I'm glad you guys are having fun going back in time with me.
:flowers:

Now, on to finding a limo with the door open, so we can get to closing that limo door... LOL
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Ahhhh, so she returns!!! You have been missed! But, do you honestly expect us to believe, AllForMJ, that the reason for your absence was due to the fact that you changed your mind about a limo photo? Come on now. You know the REAL reason was that you were still chatting to MJ inside the limo and tried to keep him all to yourself for as long as you could since you instigated that fight among the girls in front of the club only to sneak around the corner, looking innocently, to inform Michael he was being fought over. Moving on, you gave an excellent description about his eyes. I have heard a lot about his “beautiful eyes”, which he often hides behind those shades. And the fact that you mentioned about a “certain look” he gives, the piercing, I can understand why you or anyone blessed to be in his presence would melt. By the way, your style of writing made me feel as if I was standing right next to you. Looking forward to more of your experience. Continue…
 
Sdeidjs said:
I think, for her; Mr.Jacksons sweetheart could "really and truly careless" if he were monertarily rich, penniless, worldly known, or a joe smoe on the street...

:angel:I bet...More than anything...It's all about his pure heart..!

Smiles~~~
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Sdeidjs and Everyone elese who may not have understood "completely" exactly what my post was trying to convey.

I agree, I DO NOT BELIEVE MICHAEL'S SPECIAL SOMEONE care about his bank account but being the kind of man Michael tells us he is and shows- HE CARES!!! Many things that have been said about the way Michael percieve his role in the world tells us, he is very much "old school" on many different levels. It is HE who cares about rather or not he will be able to care for a complete family for the long haul. And trust, his clues tell us, this is forever as far as he is concerned.

He has started doing things but on a MUCH LARGER SCALE that the "average" man does right before a major change in their own lives. As just like in the average man's life, other people around him have taken notice of these changes and have made public recollection of them in recent years. These things came out in the tarot reading and also in some of the earlier post by AllForMJ. As a matter of fact, I didn't notice it until Allformj had pointed them out.
I hope this helps to explain my post a little better, let me know if it doesn't.
 
mystygrl said:
Ahhhh, so she returns!!! You have been missed! But, do you honestly expect us to believe, AllForMJ, that the reason for your absence was due to the fact that you changed your mind about a limo photo? Come on now. You know the REAL reason was that you were still chatting to MJ inside the limo and tried to keep him all to yourself for as long as you could since you instigated that fight among the girls in front of the club only to sneak around the corner, looking innocently, to inform Michael he was being fought over.
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Hilarious!!

:lol: :lol:

mystygrl said:
By the way, your style of writing made me feel as if I was standing right next to you. Looking forward to more of your experience. Continue…
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Thank you and yay! Glad you're coming along for the trip! :D
 
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Moddie777 said:
Sdeidjs and Everyone elese who may not have understood "completely" exactly what my post was trying to convey.

I agree, I DO NOT BELIEVE MICHAEL'S SPECIAL SOMEONE care about his bank account but being the kind of man Michael tells us he is and shows- HE CARES!!! Many things that have been said about the way Michael percieve his role in the world tells us, he is very much "old school" on many different levels. It is HE who cares about rather or not he will be able to care for a complete family for the long haul. And trust, his clues tell us, this is forever as far as he is concerned.

He has started doing things but on a MUCH LARGER SCALE that the "average" man does right before a major change in their own lives. As just like in the average man's life, other people around him have taken notice of these changes and have made public recollection of them in recent years. These things came out in the tarot reading and also in some of the earlier post by AllForMJ. As a matter of fact, I didn't notice it until Allformj had pointed them out.
I hope this helps to explain my post a little better, let me know if it doesn't.
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Yeahhhhh...

Michael is a real man and real men usually do like to keep their lives in order. Look at how he ran Neverland for close to 20 years. Look at how beautiful it was. All of that came from the heart and mind of Mr. Michael Jackson.

He's not going to be able to rest until he has things going a certain way again. He's a meticulous person. He's also a Virgo.

In addition to this, he is a man that has been pouring out his heart about being in love. It seems like he wouldn't want to find himself doing much after getting his girl accept enjoying her company as much as he can. He's made it very clear that he's been waiting for a long time.

Here's a toast to love. :cheers:
 
queen g said:
You're very welcome, Moddie. It is not the first time I have seen you show sensitivity towards other members here, and it is a beautiful quality in you. :)
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It is one of your qualities too miss queenie ;) and I may not have said it earlier in here but your post was really interesting and something I personally hadn't thought of before really. It is a nice addition to this thread.
michaelsson said:
i adore this thread. i almost 4got it existed lol
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Awwwwwww :wub: That is sooooo sweet. I bet you just got a whole bunch of young ladies swooning at that. I love that a guy loves this thread.
Moddie777 said:
Sdeidjs and Everyone else who may not have understood "completely" exactly what my post was trying to convey.

I agree, I DO NOT BELIEVE MICHAEL'S SPECIAL SOMEONE care about his bank account but being the kind of man Michael tells us he is and shows- HE CARES!!! Many things that have been said about the way Michael percieve his role in the world tells us, he is very much "old school" on many different levels. It is HE who cares about rather or not he will be able to care for a complete family for the long haul. And trust, his clues tell us, this is forever as far as he is concerned.

He has started doing things but on a MUCH LARGER SCALE that the "average" man does right before a major change in their own lives. As just like in the average man's life, other people around him have taken notice of these changes and have made public recollection of them in recent years. These things came out in the tarot reading and also in some of the earlier post by AllForMJ. As a matter of fact, I didn't notice it until Allformj had pointed them out.
I hope this helps to explain my post a little better, let me know if it doesn't.
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I think you came across well. I agree with both of you. It seems important to him to have his affairs in order financially and otherwise, though it wouldn't be the important thing for her as she most likely didn't fall in love with money, she fell in love with him. I do think it is about more than getting his finances in order as well for MJ (if they are an issue) I think he probably wants to fix his name. I think he wants his image in the publics eye to be corrected it seems, for his families sake and his own and his lady. It probably is the smart way to go about everything, taking care of all this stuff before they are together giving themselves the best chance at success. She probably has things to take care of in her own life, I would imagine. Can't wait for new music to show us more.
AllForMJ said:
Hilarious!!

:lol: :lol:
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Thank you also for your posts AllforMJ, and Mystygrl and EVERYONE who posts and reads in here. I don't want anyone to feel left out.

It IS a mystery, but I wonder if it has to be. We'll see I guess.
 
Moddie777 said:
Sdeidjs and Everyone elese who may not have understood "completely" exactly what my post was trying to convey.

I agree, I DO NOT BELIEVE MICHAEL'S SPECIAL SOMEONE care about his bank account but being the kind of man Michael tells us he is and shows- HE CARES!!! Many things that have been said about the way Michael percieve his role in the world tells us, he is very much "old school" on many different levels. It is HE who cares about rather or not he will be able to care for a complete family for the long haul. And trust, his clues tell us, this is forever as far as he is concerned.

He has started doing things but on a MUCH LARGER SCALE that the "average" man does right before a major change in their own lives. As just like in the average man's life, other people around him have taken notice of these changes and have made public recollection of them in recent years. These things came out in the tarot reading and also in some of the earlier post by AllForMJ. As a matter of fact, I didn't notice it until Allformj had pointed them out.
I hope this helps to explain my post a little better, let me know if it doesn't.
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There really is no need to explain...I knew what you meant "completely"...

:angel:Smiles~~~
 
Ape said:
It is one of your qualities too miss queenie ;) and I may not have said it earlier in here but your post was really interesting and something I personally hadn't thought of before really. It is a nice addition to this thread.

Awwwwwww :wub: That is sooooo sweet. I bet you just got a whole bunch of young ladies swooning at that. I love that a guy loves this thread.

I think you came across well. I agree with both of you. It seems important to him to have his affairs in order financially and otherwise, though it wouldn't be the important thing for her as she most likely didn't fall in love with money, she fell in love with him. I do think it is about more than getting his finances in order as well for MJ (if they are an issue) I think he probably wants to fix his name. I think he wants his image in the publics eye to be corrected it seems, for his families sake and his own and his lady. It probably is the smart way to go about everything, taking care of all this stuff before they are together giving themselves the best chance at success. She probably has things to take care of in her own life, I would imagine. Can't wait for new music to show us more.
Thank you also for your posts AllforMJ, and Mystygrl and EVERYONE who posts and reads in here. I don't want anyone to feel left out.

It IS a mystery, but I wonder if it has to be. We'll see I guess.
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Quote: I think he probably wants to fix his name. I think he wants his image in the publics eye to be corrected it seems, for his families sake

It's important to for ALL of us to understand ...

For whatever reason "DESTINY" allowed their paths to cross in this journey of life...The sweetheart that Mr.Jackson continues to speak of all these years...

"Has "always" believed in the "beauty" and "innocence" of his heart..!"

With that being said...they "both" have continued to help restore his "well deserved" LEGACY in the HIStory books of the future..!

:angel:The "TRUTH" of what truly is, will be...what has "ALWAYS" been ..!

Psalm 37
 
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STATEofSHOCK said:
In noticing how many songs have certain things in common, has anyone noticed how many things in Remember the Time are repeated in Break of Dawn? :)
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Until you mentioned it, I had never noticed it, STATEofSHOCK. But now that you have pointed it out, yeah!! The things these two songs have in common are steamy!!

In other words, Mike's got it goin' on! Daytime to nighttime, nighttime to daytime, indoors, outdoors, he doesn't care as long as you're his honey! :wild:

Mike will put you into a Casablanca scene on the beach starring him, co-starring you minus the camera crew!!

:lol:
 
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Are you going to the concert AllForMJ? Hey I just had a thought! One of us should make a sign to bring in and hold up for a moment to MJ that says "DID MJ FIND LOVE IN THE DARK?" :lol:
 
Ape said:
Are you going to the concert AllForMJ? Hey I just had a thought! One of us should make a sign to bring in and hold up for a moment to MJ that says "DID MJ FIND LOVE IN THE DARK?" :lol:
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If he performs in the U.S., sure I'll go! Not goin' to London tho. About the sign, it would be interesting to see what he does!! :lol:

He'll probably do this ------> :blink::blush::D
 
Ape said:
One of us should make a sign to bring in and hold up for a moment to MJ that says "DID MJ FIND LOVE IN THE DARK?" :lol:
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I'd soooo do that :lol: thanks for the idea, if he tours in the US im gonna do it :lol:
 
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