Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Ok, im just about disgusted by some of the back lash i've just received. Some of you, need to get a reality check here, i love Michael, i do, so EXCUSE me for having doubts. YES i know 93 was a crock of shit, so was 2005. But that doesn't mean he didn't do things like that at all. DONT GET ME WRONG PLEASE, im not saying he DID do anything, im just saying i want to hear what they have to say.
Some of you really have some attitude problems, blind defense of ANYONE or ANYTHING is a BAD IDEA, no matter who they are.
A lot of us who spent YEARS of metaculously researching these cases. How is that "blind defense"? And how much did YOU research them so that you can accuse others of a "blind defense"?
It's good to hear that you do not believe the 1993 and 2005 allegations. So that leaves Wade and Jimmy as the ones you have doubts about.
Let's see what Wade claims according to what is in his own lawsuit:
- He claims he was molested by Michael between the ages of 7 and 14 for 7 years.
- He claims the abuse included anal penetration and anal rape (none of the other accusers ever claimed such a thing).
- His problem is that up until 2012 he kept defending Michael - including being a witness for him at a criminal trial 2005. Wade at the time was already an adult. Yet, now he claims he defended MJ at the time because until 2012 he didn't understand that it was abuse. We are talking about anal rape. He claims that as an adult man in 2005 he did not understand it was sexual abuse.
- Even in the very unlikely case that he is a retard and indeed did not understand that anal rape was sexual abuse, the prosecution asked him very specific questions in 2005: "did he do this?" "did he do that?" - to each and every question his answer was no. Even if he did not understand what is sexual abuse, why didn't he answer the questions truthfully? And then others could have figured it out for him that he was abused.
- He claims he was brainwashed. He says Michael played role play with him on the phone to brainwash him. From his declaration:
That may be plausible with an 11-year-old, however he claims it was the same in 2005 when he was, 23.
And I always found another aspect of this claim strange. If both of you knew it happened and if MJ told you it was "love" then why would he say that "They are making up all these
lies about you and I, saying that we did all this
disgusting sexual stuff"?
And didn't it ring a bell in you at least then? "Wait a minute? Did he just call it disgusting sexual stuff? But he told me before it was loving..."
- In his lawsuit he claims that although 1993 and 2005 did not trigger anything in him and did not make him realize he was sexually abused, but somehow an unfulfilled "prophecy" by Michael and Wade's failure to live up too it did. Here is his story:
So the failure of the "prophecy" made him finally realize he was abused? Plus looking at this son, imagining these alleged acts with him. But while he did that he still didn't think it was sexual abuse... (once again, his claim is anal rape)
Thing is, that the story in his lawsuit is very noticably constructed to try to get him around statues of limitations. He has to claim he only recently realized he was abused, because otherwise he would have no chance of beating the statues. So very conveniently he claims just that. He claims everything that could get him around statues... That he only recently realized he was abused. That he only learned about the administration of the Estate in March 2013. (Even though his own long time lawyer talks about MJ's Estate here in 2009:
http://www.yuleseberg.com/news/worthmoredeadthanalive.php ) Even though Wade contributed to Estate projects such as the Opus, even though he tried to work on the Cirque show.
Moreover when he went on the Today's Show and gave a short interview to TMZ at an airport he said it wasn't about the money, it was about having to say it loud in order to heal. But his actual court documents contradict this. When they filed their lawsuit they also filed a motion in which they asked the Judge to seal the case - the reason they cited was the privacy interest of the accused (DOE1, 2, 3):
So there was no need to say it loud in order to heal initially, interestingly... The only thing they wanted out of it was money. It was only after it got out to the media when they started to claim this need to say it loud being the reason of their lawsuit. And how can anyone say it's not about the money when in his lawsuit they want money? While the sum is not named but you can tell they expect a lot of it, since Wade claims he needs to be compensated for his past failed career and because he could not become an "international superstar" that he was destined to become if not for the alleged abuse...
Another thing: DOE 2 and 3 are Michael's companies. Wade sues them claiming they failed to protect him from the abuser that MJ allegedly was. He blames people who worked for those companies, complete strangers for their alleged failure to defend him from abuse, but he does not blame his mother... The mother who knew all about the sleepovers and allowed them. The mother who did not notice anything, physically or psychologically, about 7 years of alleged anal rape...
Tell me how credible all this makes his allegations?
And Jimmy is represented by the same law firm, and it's said his claims are very similar ("almost identical" as Weitzman said) to Wade's...
uke: They want in their minds redemption for MJ winning in 05! They can't stand that the money train stopped once he was acquitted! The media was PRAYING for a guilty verdict because they were gonna make millions for yrs! And now MJ in death must pay! CREEPY SHIT!
