[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[LindavG]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

i dont know what u all are doing the whole day. and the next weeks and months. days and days, weeks and weeks.
but, sitting here, in front of your PC, and reading all this bullshit? are u really planing to do that? for what? only for wasting your time?
time u will never get back in your life? unpayable time, you will lost? the time you can fill out with things u like do that, your hobbies for example?

i experienced that in the 90's and then 2003-2005, and now this time. thats so much time and energy. but i will no longer wasting my time to read all this bullshit. i stopped that many years ago now. to read every weird article about michael jackson the molester, about the haters, tabloids...
i only shaking my head, and laughing about this all, about AEG and USA, and the haters. looks like to me something like that is only possible in that country. "the land of opportunity", it really is.
my time is unpayable.

stand up, go to the kitchen, take a glass of what u like most, and then ask yourself... IS'NT MY TIME MORE IMPORTANT THAN ALL THIS BULLSHIT OF LIES? DO I REALLY NEED TO READ THAT ALL WHEN I ALLREADY KNOW THAT ITS ALL ONLY LIES? DO I HAVE TO KNOW ALL THIS LIES?

for me, i didnt even need to stand up to know what to do... i do what i always try to do, do things i like.

Is Michael not worth your time and effort? His reputation is being destroyed left and right and you're willing to sit back and just let it happen because you don't want to be bothered? How are people going to learn the truth about Michael if no one provides them with factual information? I'm not saying you should respond to every tabloid article about Michael but as fans, I think we should all inform ourselves of what's happening so that when we get asked questions about it, we know how to answer them.

 

[MJ*PP]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

after all these speculations and seeing the list of names makes one even more worried. Ill have a serious breakdown if these ppl come out with different stories, Wont believe it no matter what, but itll break my heart.

mjchris@ you know, in my eyes anything i do that involves Michael aint wasting time for me. Its about the fact that troible keeps coming from everywhere as if MJ AND his fans are made to suffer for no reason but ppls greed.
Although this case isnt as major as the previous ones i believe we are a part, if not the one who should be dealing with this. We are
part of the community to change ppls view.

I could go on nd on really..but im sure you understand

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

More from Joy Robson in that article in 2005

THESE are the things all these people should see, the peolpe that have no idea about things and only hear what the media in general tells them. They don't know about what Joy said, but this right here....what more do you need? What about Joy Robson by the way? Is she with her son on this now or is she nowhere to be seen?

 

[marebear]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't know what more people want either. Michael never hurt anyone and I don't know why people can't see that already. I thought we were finally moving on from this and now this happens. Michael is gone and yet it feels like he is being killed all over again you know what I mean? I can't read these disgusting articles and see Wade talk. Makes me ill. I really don't trust anybody anymore. They say good things about Michael now but who the hell knows what they will do in the future. I keep thinking about Michael's kids and how they are doing. They know this guy and look what he is doing. They are really learning at a young age how easy it is to betray someone. Whether in their own family and now people like this. I see people supporting Michael but it doesn't take away the heartbreak of all this.

 

[mjchris]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

This is the Best post I've read in ages.

My sentiments exactly.

Fair play my man!!!!

thanks. maybe i can live better with that all now cause i'm taking this all since the late 80's. i have gone through all of the bad things. everything. i think in 1993 it was much harder to get over this all. there was no internet, no high technology. no smartphones. nothing. only the, mostly, black and white printed fan magazines (even only a few were in colour). and you have contact with other fans by letter.
when there were haters, also in your own family... hey, there was no chance against that all. that was horrible for fan. horrible when u, as a fan, was always commented as a child molester too. really.
and so, beginning with 1993 until 2009, michaels death, it was not easy for fan to tell someone else that u are a michael jackson fan. it really was. i stopped telling other people with the years. cause people then see another person in you. thats a fact. poor world.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Mjchris you have to remember there are different types of fans. Some fans are activists. Some fans like the music & all the fluffy things. Some fans are combinations of both. Some fans are only Michael fans. Some fans are Michael & family fans. The thing is there is nothing wrong with any of these differences.

If there are no fans who spend time in researching and providing information to others, who do you think would be defending Michael throughout the years? The family? If fans did not research, when they were asked for information about the 05 case this week, how would they be able to send facts to that media guy.

If fans are on the computer, it does not mean they are not doing other things as well. For instance, I live in New York. Today I got up & went to a Mass for Michael at my church for 8:30am. Then I took the train all the way downtown to canal street & did some chores. I went to the post office. Then I took the train to E 79 St & did some more chores. Then I came home. I came on the computer. I then went on the balcony for a while to clean the plants. Then I cleaned the apt. I came on the computer and then I think I left it on and went outside again to do some chores, eat, buy food & came back on the computer about 1 hour ago. The thing is sometimes people leave their computer on, but it does not mean they are sitting at the computer. I feel I have had a good Saturday & got to do things for myself & Michael as well.

The only problem I see with fans being at the computer, is that they may focus on tabloid trash which will get them down. However, there is a simple remedy for that--see it as the junk it is & don't give power to it.

 

[mjchris]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Some of you may choose to walk away from it all. Some of us feel obliged to somehow counter the negativity and the misinformation that is out there. Each to their own. But if we won't do it noone else will.

i'm not waiking away. i only ignore them.
you counter them? why? that doesnt help anyone.
it only ends into negative feelings. nothing else.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't know what more people want either. Michael never hurt anyone and I don't know why people can't see that already. I thought we were finally moving on from this and now this happens. Michael is gone and yet it feels like he is being killed all over again you know what I mean? I can't read these disgusting articles and see Wade talk. Makes me ill. I really don't trust anybody anymore. They say good things about Michael now but who the hell knows what they will do in the future. I keep thinking about Michael's kids and how they are doing. They know this guy and look what he is doing. They are really learning at a young age how easy it is to betray someone. Whether in their own family and now people like this. I see people supporting Michael but it doesn't take away the heartbreak of all this.

Exactly. I honestly have given up on trying to make people see the light when it comes to this. You still got so many people going 'Oh...but he admitted himself to sleeping with children' and i'm like....eh...so he shared his bed, oh wait, that makes him a molester right away. This world has become so ugly in many ways that people just see evil and wrongdoing in...pretty much anything. I'm tired of it.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

i'm not waiking away. i only ignore them.
you counter them? why? that doesnt help anyone.
it only ends into negative feelings. nothing else.

How do you know her countering them does not help anyone? You are wrong. Do you know how many times she has given information about the cases that even fans here did not know about & was able to educate them? Do you know the impact she has when she leaves facts under selected articles all over the internet that have wrong information. You don't know how many people would read her facts and then say, oh so that is what is the real story here. You are not all seeing or all knowing so you cannot say what she does, does not help anyone. Actually, I am very offended by that. It suggests that all her work, intellect, person is useless. And every action individuals do has some valuable purpose, even yours. It is just that the value may vary.

 

[mjchris]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Is Michael not worth your time and effort? His reputation is being destroyed left and right and you're willing to sit back and just let it happen because you don't want to be bothered? How are people going to learn the truth about Michael if no one provides them with factual information? I'm not saying you should respond to every tabloid article about Michael but as fans, I think we should all inform ourselves of what's happening so that when we get asked questions about it, we know how to answer them.

i think you didnt understand the message of my post.
its not about the effort for michael jackson. to do something for him, for his legacy.

the message was dont waste your time for every weird lie.
and when u are saying someone should stand up and fight for michael jackson, then its the jacksons family in the first place.
i as a fan do everytime my best to defend mj, with all my knowledge. and it always works. but... i differentiate between a person who will inform them self about facts, and a person who is helplessly a hater. the first one is easy to talk, to convince them. cause this person is aware whats going on. the hater is a hater, whatever you did, he will always be, whatever evidence you show them. and i can see that easily. i never eperienced something else over the years.

 

[mjchris]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

after all these speculations and seeing the list of names makes one even more worried. Ill have a serious breakdown if these ppl come out with different stories, Wont believe it no matter what, but itll break my heart.

mjchris@ you know, in my eyes anything i do that involves Michael aint wasting time for me. Its about the fact that troible keeps coming from everywhere as if MJ AND his fans are made to suffer for no reason but ppls greed.
Although this case isnt as major as the previous ones i believe we are a part, if not the one who should be dealing with this. We are
part of the community to change ppls view.

I could go on nd on really..but im sure you understand

i do.

 

[mjchris]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

How do you know her countering them does not help anyone? You are wrong. Do you know how many times she has given information about the cases that even fans here did not know about & was able to educate them? Do you know the impact she has when she leaves facts under selected articles all over the internet that have wrong information. You don't know how many people would read her facts and then say, oh so that is what is the real story here. You are not all seeing or all knowing so you cannot say what she does, does not help anyone. Actually, I am very offended by that. It suggests that all her work, intellect, person is useless. And every action individuals do has some valuable purpose, even yours. It is just that the value may vary.

an off topic question to you. since when u are michael jackson fan?

 

[marebear]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I believe we should stay positive and stick together for Michael. I think it's hard for me anyways not to feel sadness over this. I am angry too. I don't understand why this keeps happening to Michael. I don't know what he did to ever deserve this kind of treatment. It's not fair and it's frustrating. He is gone now and cannot even defend himself. These people always say it's not about money yet it's always about money. They want the money. Michael's name gets dragged through the mud and people think what was wrong with him. People should say what is wrong with these people. I believe that Michael picked good people and the best people he thought to run his estate and they probably know some things that we don't know. That's my feeling anyway. I always have bought roses for Michael in June ever since it started in 2010. I usually wait closer to the time to buy them but I wanted to do something nice for Michael right now and I bought them they day after this all started. It wasn't the biggest thing to do for Michael but it was something to show my support.

 

[MJ*PP]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I dont think i agree with you saying that a hater stays one no matter what you show them cause thats like saying the revolutionars didnt come far or changed things during revolutions through years. maybe you cant change a lot of ppls minds or not at all, but you certainly try, no? I do not think this theory will ever die in any circumstance

 

[Arklove]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I believe we should stay positive and stick together for Michael. I think it's hard for me anyways not to feel sadness over this. I am angry too. I don't understand why this keeps happening to Michael. I don't know what he did to ever deserve this kind of treatment. It's not fair and it's frustrating. He is gone now and cannot even defend himself. These people always say it's not about money yet it's always about money. They want the money. Michael's name gets dragged through the mud and people think what was wrong with him. People should say what is wrong with these people. I believe that Michael picked good people and the best people he thought to run his estate and they probably know some things that we don't know. That's my feeling anyway. I always have bought roses for Michael in June ever since it started in 2010. I usually wait closer to the time to buy them but I wanted to do something nice for Michael right now and I bought them they day after this all started. It wasn't the biggest thing to do for Michael but it was something to show my support.

I love this post....

BTW, it's not the biggest thing you can do for him, but the most thoughtful and heartfelt and done in your own way That was sweet of you

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Bull what a lot of fans have to understand is that not all people you can change. Also, in changing people's view, you cannot use the same method for everyone. For some, the best way to deal with them is one on one. If you try to work with them in a group, they feed off the disbelief of the others and do not hear you.

With some people you have to tell facts, while with others you have to let them read the facts. There is a difference. Some people are bully types, so it is best to pass over these types unless you are strong enough to deal with them.

Some people listen if you let them talk, show where you agree with them first, & then gently bring in facts to correct the faulty parts. Some people change their view if you do a question & answer type of activity with them, like saying ok you said XYZ, so how come this shows ABC, can you explain that. In the parts where they catch there is no logic you can then bring in the facts.

It is said that if you insult people they will not listen to you, which is true. However, for some people if you act as though, any "educated & intelligent" people know XYZ, because they have read all the facts & are intelligent enough to understand what really happened with the allegations, then they will feel that you are implying they are not as educated as your friends. They will try to show you that are just as intelligent & ask you for the documents to read themselves. I cannot tell you how many times I have worked that one on people and it works. I generally use it on those who think they know everything & consider themselves an expert on every thing possible. I first start by asking them if they got the information from tv. They say yes. I give a little surprised frown & say something like, oh the tv, do people still use that a lot for information? I thought everyone was saying not a lot of intelligent things is on it. Then I add, I go to lot's of people's homes and I see the very rich & educated people don't look at it that much. By now the person wants to show me they are just as educated and intelligent as the next person & that is when I could begin my work. I never tell them anything verbally, because it is the reading of the documents that show the person is intelligent & educated, so I offer to bring them some information the next time.

MJchris to answer your question, I grew up with the *****sn 5, so I have been a fan since the late 1970's. We all knew Michael was the lead in the group and I continued to follow Michael only. However, I have only joined the online community in 09 after Michael died. I hope that answers your question.

 

[mjchris]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I dont think i agree with you saying that a hater stays one no matter what you show them cause thats like saying the revolutionars didnt come far or changed things during revolutions through years. maybe you cant change a lot of ppls minds or not at all, but you certainly try, no? I do not think this theory will ever die in any circumstance

my post says they i try. and i allready said that this is what i have experienced.

 

[Aquarius]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Yeah, poor boo boo baby.

Aquarius if they join & start talking nonsense, how much more harmful can their statements be than their previous. ^^This woman in her last interview has not said anything that can be more damaging than what she said before. When thieves like them join up, they begin cutting each others throats and arguing about who should get more money, ect., & then they start snitching on each other. I have no fear of what these people can do. I really think that Wade's case will be a tool to vindicate Michael, if we recognize that it is, & get organized to use its weak points to show that. This has already been started by several people here and elsewhere. Then, when it gets to court if it does, that would be the best vindication ever!!

How I wish this will help clear Michael's name for him & for his children but the problem I see is that the reporters don't confront these people with facts. The only question I heard that reflects Wade's contradiction is about his testimony in 2005 and that's it. The reporters are giving these creeps time to tell lies & that's a problem to me because while a lot of people don't believe Wade's accusations & see him as an opportunist they do believe the accusations on 2003 & 2005 were true. This time is not only Michael is his children too. Prince & Paris are a little older & probably they can understand better but Blanket is still a little kid. I really hope he's surrounded with children who are nice.

 

[Aquarius]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

i dont know what u all are doing the whole day. and the next weeks and months. days and days, weeks and weeks.
but, sitting here, in front of your PC, and reading all this bullshit? are u really planing to do that? for what? only for wasting your time?
time u will never get back in your life? unpayable time, you will lost? the time you can fill out with things u like do that, your hobbies for example?

i experienced that in the 90's and then 2003-2005, and now this time. thats so much time and energy. but i will no longer wasting my time to read all this bullshit. i stopped that many years ago now. to read every weird article about michael jackson the molester, about the haters, tabloids...
i only shaking my head, and laughing about this all, about AEG and USA, and the haters. looks like to me something like that is only possible in that country. "the land of opportunity", it really is.
my time is unpayable.

stand up, go to the kitchen, take a glass of what u like most, and then ask yourself... IS'NT MY TIME MORE IMPORTANT THAN ALL THIS BULLSHIT OF LIES? DO I REALLY NEED TO READ THAT ALL WHEN I ALLREADY KNOW THAT ITS ALL ONLY LIES? DO I HAVE TO KNOW ALL THIS LIES?

for me, i didnt even need to stand up to know what to do... i do what i always try to do, do things i like.

If people with knowledge don't inform others, people will end up believing the tabloids. During 1993 & 2006 tv & mags were informing the scandalous lies but not the inconsistencies, if it weren't for the fans who did their own work & publish the transcripts many like me would still believe Michael was guilty even when he was proven not guilty. I don't know if you sound angry or if you're making fun of the people who take their time to find facts to rebut the liar. I'm grateful to them because I have the chance to learn the truth.

You keep doing what you always try do which is doing things you like and let others do the things they always try to do which is doing the things they like.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^ it's also important to have arguments to defend Michael when others speak bullshit, to point them out why what they believe is bullshit.

 

[jamba]

I believe we should stay positive and stick together for Michael. I think it's hard for me anyways not to feel sadness over this. I am angry too. I don't understand why this keeps happening to Michael. I don't know what he did to ever deserve this kind of treatment. It's not fair and it's frustrating. He is gone now and cannot even defend himself. These people always say it's not about money yet it's always about money. They want the money. Michael's name gets dragged through the mud and people think what was wrong with him. People should say what is wrong with these people. I believe that Michael picked good people and the best people he thought to run his estate and they probably know some things that we don't know. That's my feeling anyway. I always have bought roses for Michael in June ever since it started in 2010. I usually wait closer to the time to buy them but I wanted to do something nice for Michael right now and I bought them they day after this all started. It wasn't the biggest thing to do for Michael but it was something to show my support.

I agree it's about the $$$$$. If MJ did not have megabucks/mega assets when alive, and now his Estate is doing so well, this wouldn't be happening. I just read something positive from the NYTimes:

"What damage the case could cost Jackson’s reputation — and his valuable estate — is unclear. The estate has flourished, even though his faults and indiscretions have already been widely publicized, and some entertainment and estate experts say that the details revealed in this trial are likely to elicit more sympathy for Jackson, not less.
“I don’t think this will negatively impact Jackson’s earning potential through music or consumer product licensing at all,” said Martin Cribbs, who has represented the estates of Einstein and Gandhi. “What truly separates a legend from just a star is when their body of work supersedes who they were as an individual.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/b...n-of-aegs-negligence.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Good point. Wade admitted he 'knew all along what MJ was DOING'. So it should have been about the action as opposed to whether he understood it or not, according to what Wade is saying now.

How is he even credible in this? Why is anyone taking this seriously?

I agree. He really can't claim to have been ignorant of the kinds of questions he was asked on the stand. He was a fully grown adult. Nobody would buy that excuse from an average adult witness in a court case. So what makes Wade so special? Why do people always insist on treating fully grown adults as if they are babies just because they were around Michael Jackson? It's like no adult has any responsibility for themselves or their actions when Michael Jackson is involved. It's pathetic.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

That's exactly what he needs...
I just love Tard, she makes me chuckle, laugh every time I need it! :lol:

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I just want to say that all a person needs- REAL fans, band-wagon fans and even non-fans who are lurking- is COMMON SENSE. COMMON SENSE should tell you that Wade is LYING. NOTHING that he is saying is credible of makes sense. COMMON SENSE should tell you that NO VICTIM is going to DEFEND his so-called abuser on the witness stand as a grown man when he could easily have put his so-called abuser away for LIFE. COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" Robson CONTINTUED to defend his so-called "abuser" for YEARS, even up to the time of his death with nothing but praise and words like "Michael was the nicest and kindest human being on earth". COMMON SENSE wouild tell you that this so-called "victim" even invited his co-called abuser to have dinner with him and his son. COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called victim has done tribute after tribute to his so-called "abuser". COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" was bragging that he was going to choreograph Michael's Immortal tour and the ONE show in Vegas. COMMON SENSE should tell you that a so-called "victim" would NOT want to be associated with ANYTHING by a so-called "monster" or "abuser". COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" didn't have "repressed memory" UNTIL he was REJECTED from being the choreographer of the aforememtioned shows. COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" has NOW changed his story and says that he does NOT have repressed memory, but just decided to tell. COMMON SENSE should tell that this so-called "victim" waited FOUR YEARS after the death of his so-called "abuser" to file a claim for MONEY with his so-called "abuser's" estate/ COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" only did this AFTER a lawsuit was filed against his employer AEG. COMMON SENSE shoujld tell you that Wade Robson and his claims are BULL$$$$.

 

[AliCat]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

When watching "Ghosts," Michael Jackson's short film, which includes the song, "2 Bad," http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn_QjXvBJZc you go back to the first short film, "Bad." Wesley Snipes's character was judgemental of Michael Jackson's character. In the end, Wesley Snipe's character learns to respect Michael Jackson's character, the choice Michael Jackson made in which way he wanted to live his life.

In "Ghosts," the song, "2 Bad" the Mayor now faces the same delemma as Wesley Snipes's character did, do you respect the choice that a grown man has decided what is best for him, without judging him. In real life, Michael Jackson made a choice of naming his ranch "Neverland," after the Peter Pan's character's home. In fact, Michael Jackson went so far as to be the character, Peter Pan, complete with the Lost Boys. Now are we to judge a grown man wanting to live on his ranch and masquerade as Peter Pan and have companions, his Lost Boys, of which Wade Robson was one. This breaks my heart that Tom Sneddon besmirched Michael Jackson's good name and judged Michael Jackson as a sexual predator. The innocence of the character Peter Pan has become more tarnished now with what Wade Robson is alleging.

I have the Alice In Wonderland character as my Avatar. Why? For the same reasons why Michael Jackson loved the character Peter Pan. It's charming!

 

[souldreamer7]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

now theres a opinion poll on tmz

http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/18/michael-jackson-wade-robson-you-be-the-judge/

:no:

 

[TSCM]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

For what it's worth, I just published a clean collection of Wade Robson interviews and quotes from the past two decades, with emphasis added to the highlights. I'm sure much of the content has already been circulated elsewhere in some form, perhaps with a couple exceptions. I may continue adding to it, time permitting.

http://mjjr.net/robson/ - Two decades of unwavering support from Wade Robson. Interviews, sworn testimony, personal reflections.

 

[HIStory]

For what it's worth, I just published a clean collection of Wade Robson interviews and quotes from the past two decades, with emphasis added to the highlights. I'm sure much of the content has already been circulated elsewhere in some form, perhaps with a couple exceptions. I may continue adding to it, time permitting.

http://mjjr.net/robson/ - Two decades of unwavering support from Wade Robson. Interviews, sworn testimony, personal reflections.

A great collection, but you should delete the ones from Robson's supposed journal. That's a fake journal - not written by Robson.

And here's one more:

In September 2009, in Dance Magazine:

"Wade Robson, choreographer
Michael’s movement was this amazing amalgamation of all his influences, filtered through this beast of a dancer. His lines were so dynamic. He understood the strength of simple movement delivered with incredible precision and energy. An invert of the legs and an extension of the arm were so much more powerful than 15 pirouettes. His energy shot up from the earth. God danced through him.

I remember the first time he taught me the moonwalk at the dance studio at Neverland. I was 7, I think. I remember standing at the ballet barre and him teaching me to push back one foot at a time, teaching me the weight distribution on the balls of the feet. “Now just go, push off, and fly!” he said. That night I couldn’t sleep. I had to get up every 15 minutes and do it again.

I learned altruism from him. In the entertainment industry, it’s easy to get jaded. Despite all of the madness he went through, he had such an innocence. He trusted people, and in his heart, believed in them."

http://www.dancemagazine.com/issues/september-2009/Remembering-Michael-Jackson

 

[innuendo141]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I just want to say that all a person needs- REAL fans, band-wagon fans and even non-fans who are lurking- is COMMON SENSE. COMMON SENSE should tell you that Wade is LYING. NOTHING that he is saying is credible of makes sense. COMMON SENSE should tell you that NO VICTIM is going to DEFEND his so-called abuser on the witness stand as a grown man when he could easily have put his so-called abuser away for LIFE. COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" Robson CONTINTUED to defend his so-called "abuser" for YEARS, even up to the time of his death with nothing but praise and words like "Michael was the nicest and kindest human being on earth". COMMON SENSE wouild tell you that this so-called "victim" even invited his co-called abuser to have dinner with him and his son. COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called victim has done tribute after tribute to his so-called "abuser". COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" was bragging that he was going to choreograph Michael's Immortal tour and the ONE show in Vegas. COMMON SENSE should tell you that a so-called "victim" would NOT want to be associated with ANYTHING by a so-called "monster" or "abuser". COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" didn't have "repressed memory" UNTIL he was REJECTED from being the choreographer of the aforememtioned shows. COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" has NOW changed his story and says that he does NOT have repressed memory, but just decided to tell. COMMON SENSE should tell that this so-called "victim" waited FOUR YEARS after the death of his so-called "abuser" to file a claim for MONEY with his so-called "abuser's" estate/ COMMON SENSE should tell you that this so-called "victim" only did this AFTER a lawsuit was filed against his employer AEG. COMMON SENSE shoujld tell you that Wade Robson and his claims are BULL$$$$.

Common sense and Michael Jackson's personal life haven't gone together since the 80s unfortunately. It's something we've always had to deal with, although the MAJORITY of people seem to have the common sense to see that WR is lying.

 

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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I thought the Boyd Language Expert in the youtube video said that his behavior shows he wasn't being truthful.

It must be different from what I saw on the TV.