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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Pace said:
Cognitive dissonance seems to be a huge problem for Wade. Goes right along after "I'm not after money" while filing a monetary claim.
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Not to mention the "I didn't realise it was wrong" directly contradicts the "MJ threatened that we would both go to prison if this ever came out". Cognitive dissonance indeed.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Silouette said:
It seems that the "body language expert" thinks he's telling the truth. :ermm:
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I thought the Boyd Language Expert in the youtube video said that his behavior shows he wasn't being truthful.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Drop dead Wade.

I hope he gets back everything he's doing to Michael ten-fold. Rotten bastard.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I wish Wade was doing this to prove a point; To come out and accuse Michael of this then admit he made it up. It would make such a huge positive impact on his legacy. This is probably just wishful thinking on my behalf though :( I'm still in shock that somebody who was so incredibly supportive of Michael when the entire world was against him would do something this horrible just for money.
 
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PrincessLNJ said:
I thought the Boyd Language Expert in the youtube video said that his behavior shows he wasn't being truthful.
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Yes, the male expert basically insinuated he was lying...There was another video, though, that showed a female expert and she said Wade was being truthful...
 
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Arklove said:
Yes, the male expert basically insinuated he was lying...There was another video, though, that showed a female expert and she said Wade was being truthful...
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Oh well they not useful any way good or bad...
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

guys, look at the huge impact on society and people and their opinions that this interview has got....!

That was the goal from AEG, totally undermine any positivity about Michael and wreck his character, and let people believe in something so filthy and obscene, and as their vendetta and revenge for the trial against them.

I do think now, this interview, as the first ever made directly accusing Michael, openly hostile and publicly agressive, has far more destructive impact on Michael and his life, than anything before, more destructive than the 2005 trial or the 1993 case.

THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE, Wade is doing it because of a hidden reason.

People discussing on the net forget another thing - Michael Jackson is dead, he can not defend himself, and how he could prove something against Wades claims if he is dead?
But hey... Wade Robson claims something and he, because is alive, can prove what? His claims? He is just saying something and lets the people just think of the prejudice to Michael Jackson, creating the monstrous myth. You can see it from the reactions of all people, some simply say directly, only by reading or listenting to Wade accusations, that Michael Jackson is guilty and a peadofile, and his claims are the only evidence for them, what a big big social perversion.

BTW, read my thread about the 1993 civil lawsuit - http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/129390-INFO-about-THE-1993-CIVIL-LAWSUIT
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'm sorry for what Taj went through. Hope that relative's life is pure hell.

While I understand Wade's motives (money) I don't understand how he has the face to go on tv. And now is not repressed memory anymore, didn't his attorney said those memories came back after some stress period? Michael really have some friends, now that he's not here his good friend is trying to smear his name. I saw the View vid. and I'm annoyed because they believe Wade is lying because he's asking for money but not because Michael is incapable of doing those things. I guess is ok they doubt Wade, but a little reading about the previous accusations would have help them better to address Wade's delusions.
 
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This whole mess with Wade was based on his "repressed memory" claim if I remember correctly. I wonder what he and his lawyer will do now that it apparently isn't about "repressed memory" anymore since Wade "never forgot".
 
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Moonwalkerfan, I do not see this no more destructive than 2005. I am seeing more people are not believing than believing this. Anyone calling MJ names were doing it WAYY before Wade did this interview. Again, I am ready for TMez and The Jackson family to start making their rounds and start point out the holds in Wade story. We have been through this before and we made it. This will be no different.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

everyone needs to play this song


Michael Jackson, MONEY


to a real backstabber, and the greatest liar, wade robson
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

no one in his/her right mind
believes this man robson....

NOW, the ones looking for other things such as money, attention, and just existing through this lie, well they believe it.
 
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That was so disgusting! :puke: This guy is an idiot! :perrin: Even where this is going? :bugeyed Oh God, nobody in their right mind can not take this guy seriously. :no: *big sigh*
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

nobody in their right mind will take this guy seriously.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Kingofpop4ever3000 said:
Another thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Wade's lawyer is going to court soon to have the complaint sealed. (Am I right?). And here Wade is giving public television interviews. Why? Isn't that messing things up even more for his lawyer?
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I would say so especially if the lawyer is trying to seal it
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

LindavG said:
No, it won't. 1993 and 2003-2005 never passed. This is going to be even worse, I fear. Wade knows exactly what to say to sound plausible. I'm sure he's done his research. We as fans know the details and know his claims don't add up, but the general public will always have doubts. This is just another blow to Michael's reputation and it may be the fatal one. Prepare for more "victims" to come out of the woodwork. Many people have the mentality of "where there's smoke, there's fire". They don't care enough to actually investigate the accusations, they just read the headlines. This will never go away, it will be a permanent stain on Michael's legacy. And you best believe the media are going to milk this for all it's worth. They have no motive to side with Michael. Michael is dead, he's not going to provide them with any more soundbites. He's not here to defend himself - how convenient. Besides, people love scandals. People love to believe the worst about others, especially when it concerns celebrities. It turns my stomach to see Wade talk about himself as a victim and a survivor, and to see people sending him and his sister supportive messages. There is only one victim here and it's Michael Jackson.
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:( this feels hopeless.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

From the summary:

"Matt Lauer says many fans have contacted him and calling him a traitor, he understands its confusing for the fans. All it takes its education into child sexual abuse to understand this. He says he had no understanding of this until 1 year ago and he will be dealing with this for the rest of his life. Now he can get his life back and says his son saved his life."

So this fool wants people to believe that at the age of 29, last year, he just understand that Michael doing sexual acts on him, he doing sexual acts on Michael, Michael threatening him & saying they would both get into trouble was really MOLESTATION? Just what we said, he found some books to read about molestation & gave back some textbook analysis of what child abuse children do.

Anyone notice that just like the 05 liars, including the tickler, he also was disconnected from the emotions that a typical abused victim has when they recall the abuse. That is, because he did not experience it, it is hard for him to bring up the emotional feelings that coincide with the rejection, turmoil, betrayal, rage, sadness, feeling defiled, etc., that such victims have. I guess HE NEEDED TO DO SOME ROLE PLAY WITH HIS SISTER ON THAT ONE!!!!

He reminds me of a certain family in the way he brings in the small child into this nasty case, sort of like bringing Michael's children into that nasty Katherine/AEG case. There is this feeling that if you bring a child into the picture, you get more sympathy plus money. Not only is he a low life, he is also a child abuser as well since he uses his small son in a lie to make money.

Now we can see all the lies. The lawyer's explanation made it seem that this happened when he collapsed during some career trajectory, but Wade claims he had 2 breakdowns. However, we do not know which breakdown made him UNDERSTAND. He claimed it is not a repressed memory; he remembered but did not understand ..... Wade must be a very dunce person then.

I wonder if Wade forgot that they can playback his testimony from 05 to show how he was led to understand that if anything like that happened to him, that would be abuse. How could he claim now that he did not understand when the prosecution EXPLAINED WHAT BEHAVIOR LIKE THAT MEANS!!!!!!

I see victory for us with this case.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Has matt lauer said what he think of what wade robson said on the today show?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I agree on the body analysis Craig did on Wade. I didn't see any sign of anger, sadness, trauma, disgust. When he said "heartbreak, pain and compassion" those aren't words I bet a real survivor would use to describe his/her abuser. He hesitated, sounded rehearsed like trying to remember what to say next obviously because it's bullshit.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

When he said "heartbreak, pain and compassion"
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Thats what im trying to understand i mean why in the heck would he put the word compassion in how he feels bout "being molested"? i dont think any real abuse victims would say the feel compassion over that situation
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It's for the money... and the money only!

Michael is not here anymore, that's why!

One thing is proven already now and undeniable, Wade Robson is a liar.

Friendship, honesty and sincerety does mean only sh** to him and that makes him the person he is!

Happy to say he has to live with himself, surely not me! Live the lonely life you've chosen with this Mr. Robson and wait for the day you'll meet Michael again.

I am disgusted with Wade Robson!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

How can you live 12 years of an adult life and not have an understanding of sexual abuse? He's married with a CHILD. Surely he's not that obtuse. Tom M. made it clear that Wade was intelligent, which is one of the reasons he chose him as the first witness. At 21/22, he should've known that.
When I was 12, my creep uncle would hit on me all the time. At 12, I was old enough to know something wasn't right about that, no matter how he tried to cover it.

After watching the interview again with the body language analysis I noticed something Robson said: He said something like when you research stories about child molestation, you find "scenarios" (don't know why he kept using that word) just like his. For me, he outed himself right there. That's exactly what he did. Looked up some stories on the internet and tried to find the best one to fit his situation.

How anybody believes this is beyond me...
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

la_cienega said:
:( this feels hopeless.
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No, we have to stick together for Michael and stand up for him. To me it seems he has already changed his story from repressed memories to now he knew all along. In the last week I have see fans do brilliant work on finding information that helps Michael. As a fan I am not going to tolerate this bs anymore. Michael suffered in life because of this and now he is gone. I still cry that he is gone and now this guy wants to slander someone who helped him and his family and this is what he gets in return? I am angry and like others have said we have the facts on our side and we fight with that. I am praying too that will get through this and his kids will get through this.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I have to say that I really have an issue with how Matt Lauer fed Robson some answers. He should have just ask what kind of abuse ur talking about here? So that Wade can answer himself in detail or whatever. But, no he ask Wade instead if MJ did this to him and did u do that to MJ too. And Robson just says YES...I mean really Matt?
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't intend to be mean but MJJC shouldn't allow new members until this crap is over to avoid spies on here. I bet none of us want to give them ideas.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^Many people have said this or similar. We do need to be careful I know that's for sure.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

He's on drugs.....has to be
 
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