Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael"/ Excerpt @pg151/New Interview Post 3743

Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Thank you Gin vid
my post was not in reply to anything you posted here about Frank or Omer
it was in reference to another post. that only stated "frank said Mj said omer was his son"
with no further clarification.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Some of today's posts made me think and left me wondering if the issue we have here is that we aren't ready or willing for a real true and honest portrait of Michael?

Both Jermaine's book introduction and Frank's book introduction written by their publishers contain these words or similar meaning ones. I'll just go with "real true honest" combo for the sake of simplicity.

Then I looked to the comments comparisons to Jesus, no problems with weed but do not say that about Michael and so on and so on. I can't help but think , well it sounds like we are asking for a parts hidden , parts sugarcoated Saint portrait.

And I'll make it clear by a personal example.

Today if someone was to write a true, personal, honest book about me , it would include how my first love - who I believed to be one and only - broke my heart to the maximum by multiple acts including cheating, how I had an affair with a man for 2 years, how I hated myself for doing something that hurt me so much to another woman, and how after these two experiences I became not able to trust myself and the man I'm with and became commitment phobic. That would be a true inner me.

Another approach would be to look at me from my education, my job, my family, that I live with a puppy. like to do vegetable gardening - and not be that good at that, my love for Michael and some funny stories such as how my neighbor's kid escapes to my house after having a fight with his mom and how much I get a kick from it etc. That would still be me but a lot more superficial , obviously seen elements of my life but not at all my inner self or a real or full portrait.

So I'm wondering is that the issue here? That people do not want "real true honest" and inner portraits but prefer obvious omitted and even sugarcoated Saint portrait? Because when people say "give us funny stories, only positive, omit that , don't mention that" etc well it seems like that. So I'm curious.

edited to add: I'm also confused. Because initially the reason that people was so happy about this book was that Frank was close to Michael for 25 years and he knew Michael. But now we are unhappy because he tells us what he knows. Wasn't that what we were looking for in the first place?
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Geez....dude couldn't even smoke a joint in the mountains in peace without it eventually making it to the tabloids.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Some of today's posts made me think and left me wondering if the issue we have here is that we aren't ready or willing for a real true and honest portrait of Michael?

Both Jermaine's book introduction and Frank's book introduction written by their publishers contain these words or similar meaning ones. I'll just go with "real true honest" combo for the sake of simplicity.

Then I looked to the comments comparisons to Jesus, no problems with weed but do not say that about Michael and so on and so on. I can't help but think , well it sounds like we are asking for a parts hidden , parts sugarcoated Saint portrait.

And I'll make it clear by a personal example.

Today if someone was to write a true, personal, honest book about me , it would include how my first love - who I believed to be one and only - broke my heart to the maximum by multiple acts including cheating, how I had an affair with a man for 2 years, how I hated myself for doing something that hurt me so much to another woman, and how after these two experiences I became not able to trust myself and the man I'm with and became commitment phobic. That would be a true inner me.

Another approach would be to look at me from my education, my job, my family, that I live with a puppy. like to do vegetable gardening - and not be that good at that, my love for Michael and some funny stories such as how my neighbor's kid escapes to my house after having a fight with his mom and how much I get a kick from it etc. That would still be me but a lot more superficial , obviously seen elements of my life but not at all my inner self or a real or full portrait.

So I'm wondering is that the issue here? That people do not want "real true honest" and inner portraits but prefer obvious omitted and even sugarcoated Saint portrait? Because when people say "give us funny stories, only positive, omit that , don't mention that" etc well it seems like that. So I'm curious.

real truth and honestly??? I dont compare Michael to Jesus in anyway...there is only one of him...and Michael is NOT him. I can only speak for ME, As a MJ fan for So MANY years...I have this image of Michael in my head and in my heart...and yes I think you are RIGHT..now that Michael is gone...I DON"T want that image tarnished in ANYWAY. I want to hang onto the Michael that I love. I KNOW that Michael was NOT perfect,,,I know that Michael had flaws...but that is ok...he was human,,,and he was SUPPOSE to make mistakes. BUT ..me being a fan,,,I love him unconditonally..NO MATTER WHAT. I dont want to keep reading the same stuff..ya know the addict stuff. Not because it changes my image of him ..but because it makes me focus mentally on these things and makes me depressed,,,THAT is not good. I want my Michael to be MY Michael....I want to be able to listen to his music without saying to myself....Michael was and addict,,,,"I cannot handle that"....So if I have to keep him "not Jesus like" ...but not HAVING to think about everything that is being said about drugs and addiction,,,then I am FREE to enjoy Michael again....and Ithink that is what we as fans are craving,,,to just "enjoy" Michael. I want to feel carefree about him again,...it seems since his death that I never will,,,,but in order for ME to move ahead,,,I HAVE TOO....I have been grieving for 5 years straight,,,,3 people that I lloved dearly in this world all passed within 3 years, My sister,,,Michael and then My auntie,,,I DONT want to grieve ANYMORE,,,,I want to feel alive again,,,I want to feel carefree again, I want to turn on Michael and HEAR Michael again....not silence....I dont know,,,maybe I never will "hear HIM again. But i have to try,,,I HAVE to be OK again, I will be honest I HAVE thought about leaving the forum...just so I wouldn't have to hear/read anymore negative things about Michael..the question is..WILL I be able to turn and walk away??....I dont know. So Ivy I think you are right I think I am not able to handle the complete truth,,,it HURTS much,,..the wound that has been left by his passing is to deep...but I am working on it,,,because I have to,,,I HAVE to move on from the pain that I have been suffering, I hope you can understand my post...somtimes when I am trying to "express" the pain,,,it comes out jumbled...because that is how I feel on the inside, Again I am trying to work on that..it is not easy working through that much grief,,,but I do feel that I am fighting through it,,,and i do feel like I will be ok in time, Michael was/is such an important part of my life that I cannot put it into words..I think he would want me to heal and be happy again to, Just one more thing,,,,since July 1 2009 I had worn one of those black bracelets that said RIP Michael 2009,...well the day after the verdict was read,,,,it broke OFF my wrist...and fell to the floor...I dont know why.,..I didnt hook it on anything,,or wrip it on anything...it just broke and fell. I took that as a sign that I was being set free from the pain and anguish of Michael's passing...it was almost a sense of relief that washed over me. I will ALWAYS love Michael...he will always be with me in my heart,,,I just cannot take hearing anymore bad things,,,it drives my brain and my heart into emotional overload...and it has become physically unhealthy for me now. Well I hope this helps you understand ME a little better now.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

in regards to OMER Bhatti ONLY
Franks said MJ teased him about Omer being his son and then told him the truth that he was not his son
why do fans forget to put that story IN CONTEXT .. just to attack him. I hope we can keep it honest

Where did he say that? Direct quote & link please. Thank you

Direct quote from AP makes no mention of jokes. He said MJ told him Bhatti was his son, but he didn't believe him. Later MJ admitted it was a lie.

Please direct me to the "joke" part.

Sorry 4 mistakes. I am on my phone.

The excerpts I have read (& I didnt read them all) say nothing abt Michael teasing Frank abt that. They say that MJ used to say that Omer was his son &Frank didnt believe him and MJ eventually admitted it was not true. There was nothing abt jokes, etc. mentioned.

Therefore, if that is a complete quote (& we will not know for a few days) then I think those who wonder how clise they really were if MJ wld tell him something like that and keep to it for an extended period to wonder at their relationship.

I hope that makes sense. I will refine it once I get to a real computer again. Lol!

I am almost sure she made it up. Which would be beyond pathetic if you ask me. Defend the sleazeball with hard facts...don't make things up otherwise you will lose all credibility.

Still waiting for a direct quote & link where Frank said MJ was "joking" about Bhatti. Thank you.


FYI: Ivy, I was never supportive of the book. From the beginning, I thought it was sleazy. I altos think MJ & him had a falling out sometime during or after the trial. That's why I wasn't comfortable with him writing anything about MJ.

Also why do you assume "this is what Frank knows"? Why is it so easy for you to believe everything he wrote without challenging it? If others were asked to lie about MJ in other to get published, why do you assume Frank didn't agree to embellish his story to get the mighty dollar ?

Just from these shorts excerpts we know of at least two discrepancies: Bhatti and Lisa Marie. If he couldn't get these very simple & well known facts right..why do you assume he "wrote about what he knows". The bias here is astounding to say the least.

And no one has answered the question, KNOWING MJ'S HISTORY, DO YOU FEEL HE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THIS BOOK? Yes or NO?


 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Can we trust Frank can and would give us an honest and true portrait of Michael Jackson? I'm not saying Frank is dishonest. But, Frank's book is not a memoir of Michael Jackson. It's about his friendship with Michael. He's telling stories from his point of view. It's his version of events.

A good biographer is not necessary a friend. A friend, on the other hand, may not make a good writer. A biographer is supposed to research and give an objective account to the readers. Frank's book is his subjective look on Michael.

I never think we can compare Frank's book to Steve Jobs memoir by Walter Issacson. Jobs' biography seems to be much more comprehensive.

I have gone through a horrible trial. After hearing all the non-flattering details, i am still here. So, I dont think i only want a pristine version of Michael Jackson. I accept his flaws. I just want people show him more respect and dignity.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Some of today's posts made me think and left me wondering if the issue we have here is that we aren't ready or willing for a real true and honest portrait of Michael?

Both Jermaine's book introduction and Frank's book introduction written by their publishers contain these words or similar meaning ones. I'll just go with "real true honest" combo for the sake of simplicity.

Then I looked to the comments comparisons to Jesus, no problems with weed but do not say that about Michael and so on and so on. I can't help but think , well it sounds like we are asking for a parts hidden , parts sugarcoated Saint portrait.

And I'll make it clear by a personal example.

Today if someone was to write a true, personal, honest book about me , it would include how my first love - who I believed to be one and only - broke my heart to the maximum by multiple acts including cheating, how I had an affair with a man for 2 years, how I hated myself for doing something that hurt me so much to another woman, and how after these two experiences I became not able to trust myself and the man I'm with and became commitment phobic. That would be a true inner me.

Another approach would be to look at me from my education, my job, my family, that I live with a puppy. like to do vegetable gardening - and not be that good at that, my love for Michael and some funny stories such as how my neighbor's kid escapes to my house after having a fight with his mom and how much I get a kick from it etc. That would still be me but a lot more superficial , obviously seen elements of my life but not at all my inner self or a real or full portrait.

So I'm wondering is that the issue here? That people do not want "real true honest" and inner portraits but prefer obvious omitted and even sugarcoated Saint portrait? Because when people say "give us funny stories, only positive, omit that , don't mention that" etc well it seems like that. So I'm curious.

edited to add: I'm also confused. Because initially the reason that people was so happy about this book was that Frank was close to Michael for 25 years and he knew Michael. But now we are unhappy because he tells us what he knows. Wasn't that what we were looking for in the first place?
I don't think that we are going to get a true, honest portrait of Michael from Frank's book. We will get Frank's version of the truth just like we got Jermaine's version of the truth. Are they necessarily Michael's truth though?
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

In the end, "success" is not about how much money you have, but INTEGRITY, in your life. So sorry, but I don't think Frank has that. I just DON'T.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Some of today's posts made me think and left me wondering if the issue we have here is that we aren't ready or willing for a real true and honest portrait of Michael?

I think the issue here is that we don't know if this is a real true and honest portrait of Michael. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. If a positive story turned out not to be true, it wouldn't cause as much harm as a negative story turning out not to be true. We can accept Frank's story as the truth and say, "Oh ok, so Michael smoked weed." But what if it wasn't true? What if Michael was actually very much against weed? We would never know. And that's what bothers me. I don't want Michael to be branded something he's not, just like he was unfairly branded a pedophile by so many people. I'd rather not know at all than to believe something that could be a lie. A recording tape of Michael saying that he smoked weed or an actual video of Michael smoking weed wouldn't bother me as much, because I wouldn't be wondering if it's true or if it's actually a stab at Michael. If someone other than Michael is gonna say that he smoked weed, someone I don't even know, someone I can't tell whether they are telling the truth or not, someone who's getting paid for it... then I want proof before accepting it as a fact.

With that said, whether the story is true or not, the person telling it is still not a good friend. You might want a real true and honest portrait of Michael, but a real friend would not give you that. Because a real friend would know how much Michael wouldn't want his flaws to be revealed to the whole world. So if someone is not a good friend... how do we know this person is being truthful?
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

I have no problem to get a true honest Michael, but can we get it from casinos book? I don't think so. We all know what the publishers want. we already have Karen said there were lies in that excerpts when being asked by fans.
 
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Autumn thank you so much for your personal story about integrity. I think it is really appropriate for this thread. Please let us have the information about your book.

Funny how Klien who made $$$ off Michael is calling Frank out. I wonder if Frank will respond. Frank reminds me so much like the rabbi now--another friend who disclosed intimate details and said Michael wanted him to write a book. Now you guys see why Michael liked to hang out with kids!!!!!!
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

I altos think MJ & him had a falling out sometime during or after the trial. That's why I wasn't comfortable with him writing anything about MJ.

they made up, even Karen Faye said it.

Also why do you assume "this is what Frank knows"? Why is it so easy for you to believe everything he wrote without challenging it? If others were asked to lie about MJ in other to get published, why do you assume Frank didn't agree to embellish his story to get the mighty dollar ?

Did I say I believe everything he writes? and since Michael's death we haven't seen anyone asked to lie. A lot of people are able to publish positive books.

Just from these shorts excerpts we know of at least two discrepancies: Bhatti and Lisa Marie. If he couldn't get these very simple & well known facts right..why do you assume he "wrote about what he knows". The bias here is astounding to say the least.

How is Bhatti is a discrepancy? Joe said he was Michael's son and I read before Michael referring to him as his son as well. For Lisa Marie I'm waiting to put in context. Because unlike many here I'm Muslim and not being married and having sex is really frowned upon, and it's a hell to have a child out of wedlock. In some Muslim countries females can even get killed for it. Illegitimate children are seen like the plague , in most countries they won't be even given an ID. I personally feel no need to get married but everyone in my family feels the need to push me everyday to get married - that doesn't mean my relationship isn't real. Perhaps Michael preferred to not be married and enjoy free love but rushed to the altar to satisfy a very real public pressure in Muslim countries. It doesn't mean his relationship or love or sex wasn't real.

And no one has answered the question, KNOWING MJ'S HISTORY, DO YOU FEEL HE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THIS BOOK? Yes or NO?

I'll answer that when I read the book.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

I for one never supported/bought Jermaines or any of La toya's books and won't Frank's either.

How can I be ready for a "real true and honest portrait of Michael" by Frank about MJ if he gives a ridiculous story about MJ marriages to both Lisa and Debbie. There was nothing traditional about both marriages for MJ to give a flying **** about what his arab associates would think at all from the very begining. o_O I litterally laughed when I read that's what frank said. And I also wonder how can a statement like that by frank be put into context? I'm really waiting for that one from him....oh wait he said MJ told him so, right? Pfff

I never heard that explaintion for his marriages before. That was a new one by dear Frank Mr. fixin Misconceptions!
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

How do we know Frank is being truthful when a year ago he and his family said on tv that they new nothing of a drug problem? Oprah asked them that. Now where did all these drug revelations come from? I can handle the truth about Michael but I have trouble when people who knew him are not consistant. I always thought this book would be mostly positive when I heard of it because of what they said in that interview. I also believed they saw no problems and now what am I suppose to think and feel right now? I think a lot of people are surprised and taken a back from this not because we never heard it before but from him since the last time he spoke he said saw nothing. I think people are feeling blindsided and confused. I know that's how I feel. You are going from one point to a completely different point without understanding how that happened.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Is it that incomprehensible so many are skeptical here? First, what has Frank Cascio done to earn creditibility? His resume is not that impressive. It seems his whole career is built upon Michael. Second, fans are weary now. Michael has been betrayed way too many times. The angel was indeed too pure for this world. Many of his backstabbers were former friends. Third, it's true that the attention his book has generated thus far all paint Michael in an extremely negative light.

I am a Michael Jackson fan. Although I accept his flaws, I dont want his name to be dragged through the mud again because his friend is releasing a book. I feel frustrated.

I'm all for a carefully and objectively written Michael Jackson biography. Frank's book is not it.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Thunder loved your post. Generally, I do not think fans do not want a true picture of Michael. I think saying that makes fans seem infantile, simplistic, or coo coo (I know you did not say that). I think that because fans hear more negative news about Michael from the public they are in negative overload. Because most news is bad news, they have become very defensive of all news in relation to Michael. It is like having someone you love who many dislike. The more these people say bad things about your loved one, the more you will stand up for that person, because you recognize you are all they have.

Most fans knew Michael drank and had a prescription drug problem. The thing is that this information is the type of thing that gets blown up in the news, so if a friend of Michael comes along and says I am going to write this book that will do XYZ, and the person misleadingly does the opposite, giving information that can be blown up in the media, then this betrayal should be highlighted.

If someone writes 300 words, but 50 has the most impact in giving fuel to stigmatize an individual, then that book has failed in its purpose. Even if you wait and see, the book will still stigmatize Michael. Even if you have a Q&A, the book will still stigmatize Michael. Even if Frank is your friend, the book will still stigmatize Michael. Even if many artists do drugs and drink alcohol, the book will still stigmatize Michael. We already have proof in the news headline. Should we wait for more proof?

As have been said a several times, most people will get this news from TV. The masses will not rush out to buy the book to find out where, when, and how, so the damage is already done. Think about all the people we meet who have something negative to say about Michael but cannot tell you the details about it. Where do you think they got that information from??? Think about it--from the media and friends of Michael's who are sources for the media.
 
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@thunder, if you haven't done so, go get Joe Vogel's Man In The Music. His book would remind you why you fell in love with Michael.

Much love to you. :huggy:

Have faith. Michael will be remember for his greatness by future generations. His flaws will be mere footnotes of the amazing book of Michael Jackson. His genius and dedications will come first and foremost. We may not live long enough to see such a day. But, the day will come.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

I was trying to read the whole thread before I commented but I had to stop at

Arnold W. Klein
Michael was dependent on Propofol since the 80's and did not marry Lisa Marie to please the Arabs. You have millions off Michael already is that not enough Cascio?

Ahaha. Ahahaha. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Thank you for posting. I needed that.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Where did he say that? Direct quote & link please. Thank you

Direct quote from AP makes no mention of jokes. He said MJ told him Bhatti was his son, but he didn't believe him. Later MJ admitted it was a lie.

Please direct me to the "joke" part.

You also did not make a direct quote you only posted the first part of that statment and not the latter. I dont have the whole direct quote. I just remember Franks stated later MJ told hiim it wasnt true. I took that as he was pulling Franks leg. I also remember others saying MJ told them the same thing and then later said it wasnt true. One of his body guards I believe I cant remember for sure who said it. but will have to try and find it . I am not tryign to be dishonest. Your partial statement was also incorrect - my statement at least clarified MJ told him it was not true
I am almost sure she made it up. Which would be beyond pathetic if you ask me. Defend the sleazeball with hard facts...don't make things up otherwise you will lose all credibility.
Still waiting for a direct quote & link where Frank said MJ was "joking" about Bhatti. Thank you

There is really no reason to attack my integrity in this thread - Jeeez.. I didnt make any thing up .
That was uncalled for and certainly not what i was doing. - please see above. Why do you have such an attacking and hateful manner in this thread. Its not necessary. You can have your opinion but please stop attacking and demeaning others. In fact personal attacks on members which I am is against the rules of this board and yet you contiinue - This is the 2nd time you did it to me i this thread. I ignored the first time.. becuase I didnt want to feed the fire . Please stop .. Its very rude and its getting to be habitwith you in many threads. ..
Thanks
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

About Steve Jobs -- his book is AUTHORIZED. Steve gave the writer multiple interviews specifically for the book. He KNEW the book will be published and approved it. No comparison with Cascio's book, which I'm sure, given the horrible publicity and very private stuff he's revealing (true or false), MJ would absolutely never be happy with.

And why would the Cascio book be a true and honest portrayal of MJ? It's subjective, one sided and self serving book. Not to mention the publishers likely demanded "juicy" stories in order to publish it. I'm taking it all with a big grain of salt, especially now.
 
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Yeap I got Vogel book yesterday and saw a bigger pile of Jermaine's book there. There was 1 Moonwalker. Vogel's book has statements from Deepak about drugs and there is a minor statement about prof, but at least Vogel did not say that he was going to write this positive book that would do XYZ, so when I saw his minor reference to Deepak in the Invincible chapter, I simply shrugged.

I wonder what all Michael's friends will do after they write the books and sell the songs? How will they continue to make money?
 
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You also did not make a direct quote you only posted the first part of that statment and not the latter. I dont have the whole direct quote. I just remember Franks stated later MJ told hiim it wasnt true. I took that as he was pulling Franks leg. I also remember others saying MJ told them the same thing and then later said it wasnt true. One of his body guards I believe I cant remember for sure who said it. but will have to try and find it . I am not tryign to be dishonest. Your partial statement was also incorrect - my statement at least clarified MJ told him it was not true

There is really no reason to attack my integrity in this thread - Jeeez.. I didnt make any thing up .
That was uncalled for and certainly not what i was doing. - please see above. Why do you have such an attacking and hateful manner in this thread. Its not necessary. You can have your opinion but please stop attacking and demeaning others. In fact personal attacks on members which I am is against the rules of this board and yet you contiinue - This is the 2nd time you did it to me i this thread. I ignored the first time.. becuase I didnt want to feed the fire . Please stop .. Its very rude and its getting to be habitwith you in many threads. ..
Thanks

Here is direct quote from AP: "Cascio also said that Jackson used to claim that dancer and rapper Omer Bhatti, long rumored to be his love child by a Norwegian woman, was his son, though Cascio did not believe him. Jackson later admitted that it wasn't true."

I didn't quote the article, because it was read by all in this thread. I asked you to quote yours, because no one but you came up with the "joke" angle. That was my first time reading about it.

Where did I attack your integrity? Stop being on the defensive... RE-READ WHAT I WROTE.

if you are making this story up, this would be very pathetic and you would lose credibility. Anyone making up arguments to corroborate a story would be losing their credibility. Wouldn't you agree?

You can only debate with facts. And you presented that "joke" angle as a known fact.

And that's an "if" that's what you did. I wasn't able to confirm whether that statement about it being a "joke" was made up or not......but I am still waiting for the direct quote. Thank you
 
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I was trying to read the whole thread before I commented but I had to stop at



Ahaha. Ahahaha. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Thank you for posting. I needed that.

As if Klein has the moral ground to criticize the Cascios. Jason Pfeiffer anyone? Peeing in a cup in front of other people anyone? And now Michael was addicted to a drug since the 80s that is not addictive...
 
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I was trying to read the whole thread before I commented but I had to stop at



Ahaha. Ahahaha. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Thank you for posting. I needed that.

As if Klein has the moral ground to criticize the Cascios. Jason Pfeiffer anyone? Peeing in a cup in front of other people anyone? And now Michael was addicted to a drug since the 80s that is not addictive...

He didn't stop there

Arnold W. Klein a book about Michael should tell the good things he did, the lifes he said, how I met the Queen of England with him, The Sultan of Brunei,how he and astaire would dance together.

so telling good things include what Klein told such as peeing, propofol addiction, paternity and sexual orientation

and do you realize how in mid sentence it becomes all about Klein :p
 
And about Omer. so Michael saying he had a son , Omer acting his son but people not believing him to be his son. All here.

In an interview with TV One, Joe Jackson asserts Omer Bhatti, a 25-year-old dancer and aspiring rapper from Oslo, Norway who once traveled the world with Michael Jackson, lived at the singer's Neverland ranch and was referred to by the Jackson family as "Michael J," is the pop icon's estranged fourth child.

Asked if he knew Bhatti was Jackson's son, Joe Jackson said, "Yes, I knew he had another son, yes I did."

He added: "He looks like a Jackson, he can dance like a Jackson. This boy is fantastic dancer -- matter of fact, he teaches dance."

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"If Omer's his son, he's his son," Jermaine Jackson told Britain's the Daily Mail. "We won't deny it. We are going to give him the same love and care that we give Prince and Paris and Blanket. I can't clearly say if he is Michael's, but I saw this kid around him."

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Stacy Brown, a Jackson biographer who once worked as a family spokesman, said he first began hearing about Bhatti in 1992, when he would have been 8.

"He would tell them [the Jackson family] that he was Michael's son," Brown said. "The fact is, he is not Michael's son."

"Michael took him [Bhatti] in and took his parents in, he would travel the world with him," Brown said. "He lived at Neverland for a long time and moved out when Michael left Neverland."


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"Maybe Michael loved him like a son, treated him like a son, and maybe he [Bhatti] felt like Michael was really his father," said Stuart Backerman, a former family spokesman. "But I just don't buy that he's his son."

Backerman believes if Bhatti really were Jackson's son, Jackson long ago would have acknowledged it, especially in light of how close he was to his three children.

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In 2004, Us Weekly reported that Jackson did, indeed, acknowledge that he was the father. A source told the magazine: "Jackson has told his closest associates Omer's mom's was a Norwegian with whom he had a one-night stand."

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"Nobody called him Omer, they called him Michael J.," said Brown. "Ever since he was a little boy he would make himself up to look like Michael. They would wear the same -- hat, pants, shoes, even socks. Michael loved it."

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Taraborelli weighed in on Omer Bhatti, the young man who many believe that is Jackson’s secret “fourth” child. “Michael Jackson often did this, Michael Jackson brought in families and adopted them, they moved into Neverland and the next thing you know is that he’s telling people ‘this is my cousin, this is my son,’’” he said.


http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8214623&page=1#.TsCpcEOa9GU

http://www.insideedition.com/storyprint.aspx?SpecialReportID=3220
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Oh please that Omer story is too funny. Michael must have been laughing when people were so sure that Omer was his son, and Joe is Joe.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Ivy, the point I was trying to make is how close could he have been to MJ, if he was telling him the same lie as everybody else. He was "allegedly" his best "friend". If MJ considered him as such, why would he feed him an OBVIOUS lie?
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Oh please that Omer story is too funny. Michael must have been laughing when people were so sure that Omer was his son, and Joe is Joe.

Michael saying Omer was his son (and Frank not believing him) has mentioned as a discrepancy. However it isn't. You see a bunch of other people saying that and even some Jacksons (Joe and Jermaine) believing that to be a possibility.

Ivy, the point I was trying to make is how close could he have been to MJ, if he was telling him the same lie as everybody else. He was "allegedly" his best "friend". If MJ considered him as such, why would he feed him an OBVIOUS lie?

"Maybe Michael loved him like a son, treated him like a son, and maybe he [Bhatti] felt like Michael was really his father," said Stuart Backerman, a former family spokesman. "But I just don't buy that he's his son."

and today still Paris calls Omer her brother.

so perhaps he saw him as his son?


edited to add:

Omer Bhatti, 25, has said that Jackson feted him as an honorary son after inviting him and his family to move in with him. The budding singer from Norway, who lived with Jackson at his Neverland ranch for eight years, hails the 'King of Pop' as his "best friend", Sun online reported.

Bhatti confided in a friend that Jackson always told him that he was like a son to him, which may have started the rumours.

"Michael is not my father. He and I were just very, very close. He was my best friend," the publication quoted Bhatti telling a friend from Oslo.

"Michael always used to say I was like a son to him," he told the friend. "But my true parents are here in Norway. The reason I was asked to sit with his family at the memorial service is because I was Michael's closest friend, not because I am his son," Bhatti added.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...k/28156557_1_omer-bhatti-pop-legend-neverland
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

With the Omer situation, I know people who refer to others as their brother, sister, even mom, etc. but really are not; however, only those extremely close would know that reality tidbit based on actions and words. It was more an outlook on the relationship than trying to lie to or trick people. Michael and Omer would not be the first or last for this.

As for K. Faye, A. Klein, and whomever else including some family members --- part of the problem (when they make these jabs at each other) has always been the need for everyone to have this tug-of-war match about who was the closest to Michael or knew Michael the best. It seems though that the truth of the matter is that he was close to different people in different ways. That is not too hard to grasp. If they tug like this now, I can only imagine how they must have done when Michael was actually here.
 
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