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Frank DiLeo Speaks about AEG shows and the Day MJ Died

I really don't get it anymore. People who were close to Michael are contradicting eachother. How the hell should the LAPD find out the real truth???
 
It has been bothering me for a while...but when you are making a deal to promote somebody like MJ, wouldn't you make sure he is not alone at anytimes and always surrounded by people who can help him? the food he eats! the meds he takes! literally, everything has to be checked before coming to your artist!! now its not like: yes.. come for rehersals and then go back home by yourself and come again tomo... I would make sure somebody is always with the person I invested in. MJ was kind of left alone by AEG. It is their fault in way...they should've been monitoring MJ constantly..and watched his every step, if they cared about the shows becoming a success!! Also the insurance cover regarding the overdose is just wrong.......
 
HeleenMJJ said:
I really don't get it anymore. People who were close to Michael are contradicting eachother. How the hell should the LAPD find out the real truth???
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That is why there have been no arrests and no toxicology report released, the LAPD have to wade through a lot of crap to get to the truth.
 
there's a difference between people close to mj and people close to mj and who would be effected by him doing the shows....

if they had a hand in it or saw him deteriorating and did nothing or helped to further along his horrible progression, then something's up

sorry but mj can't be 160 holding all three of his kids soaking wet. frank is full of it
 
vargak said:
I would say Kenny was under the spell and he might have tweeded with more excitement than what was actually happening.
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Well for all who thinks the tweets were fake or exaggerated. Isn't it possible you guys that rehearsals could have been great, wonderful, etc even if michael DID NOT show up thoses days. So then it wouldn't be lies from kenny then. Now I didn't read many tweet from kenny but if he was saying "oh rehearasl was amazing michael tore the house down" yet michael didn't even show then dude is lying. But him just stating how things went doesn't mean they didn't happen that way even if michael wasn't in attendance. yknow?!

Cris123 said:
The magician was not right...Michael was not wearing white the last day..I'll post a pic of what he was wearing soon...All these AEG people....bleah...
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Well whatever day it was he stated michael was wearing ALL WHITE, which is the same day that one of the fans in the email that not to be posted stated that michael looked skeleton skinny. So I don't know who or what to believe. I don't think everybody that got hired by aeg or to be part of the tour is lying. I mean if the janitor was mopping during rehearsal and saw michael and stated the same as the magician. Im not gonna say oh he was hired by aeg to lie. I don't know what to believe and im wonder if it just certain ppls PERCEPTION that why we are getting different view on how michael was feeling, looking, whether he was eating, Etc. Now the TOP dogs at aeg, frank or the likes i don't trust but I would hope that the magician wouldn't lie about this. There was even an ex exec or somebody (dag I can't remember but somebody high up there) who watched michael during a rehearsal and said that michael looked like his old self again (dude was not from aeg). So I just don't know. I have no doubt that MOST are lying or strectching the truth but I don't think every body is, well at least I hope not such as the magician.
goldiee said:
Then this would fit in with what Louis Farrakhan said about somebody telling him Michael wanted him to talk with him about the contract he was in. Oh my God, this is sounding like he was under some kind of Mafia contract. Michael must have realized he was stuck.
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NoOOOOOW I want to know MORE about this. SO bad. More and more it proving that somebody murdered michael. michael didn't tell that fitness lady kathy that "they were very mean" for nothing. Theres more to it then that. Toward the end days I'm sure randy was probably hounding michael.
HeleenMJJ said:
I really don't get it anymore. People who were close to Michael are contradicting eachother. How the hell should the LAPD find out the real truth???
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So true. this why I don't believe the crap in the media, if the ppl around michael can't get it right I know they don't have it right not to mention they they lie for the fun of it themselves. The media reminds me of that game in school where we would start at one end the the class room and the teacher would whisper a word or phrase in first students ear and each student would pass it around until it got to the last person. The last person would then say what the word was out aloud and most of the time it was a completely different word then what it started out as.
 
HeleenMJJ said:
I really don't get it anymore. People who were close to Michael are contradicting eachother. How the hell should the LAPD find out the real truth???
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It is mad indeed. A lot doesn't add up, well none of it does really. Give them all lie detector tests(not a serious suggestion)... but then could you trust the LAPD to tell us the real outcomes...
 
I trust Frank, Michael does also and would not have rehired him if he didnt. Frank is a good friend to Michael and I think they liked each other very much. I believe what he says. That Michael was happy and looking forward to doing 50 shows and that Dr. Murray was just out for money asking for more than 150,000 a month. wtf? he is a shit doctor from Texas

Frank is a good family man and a good person I think the kids were lucky to have him there that very sad day.
 
I think Mike knew he was surrounded by sharks and just decided to re-hire another shark (Frank) that he knew could at least deal with the others floating around him (ie Tohme).
 
right hire an ass to take out an ass but then u had two asses who were all fighting and let something major like raymone's lawsuit go unresponded...it's pathetic
 
Michael had such a big burden to carry poor Michael...I always admired him but at the same time I felt sorry for him, for the people he had to deal with all the time
MJ himself represented an empire but he had no foundation to stand on, no one to trust
 
Actually I meant both Frank and Karen, referring to people close to Michael. I mean Frank says Michael looked forward to the concerts and was aware of the fact that he should do 50 (as stated in the contract, which Michael was clearly aware of according to Frank). Karen says Michael didnot want to do 50 shows and was ancious of being able to.
Who is most credible here? Both have had contact with Michael for years with some breaks in between. I guess they both cared.... My head keeps spinning on all the stories...
 
Soso Deaf said:
there's a difference between people close to mj and people close to mj and who would be effected by him doing the shows....

if they had a hand in it or saw him deteriorating and did nothing or helped to further along his horrible progression, then something's up

sorry but mj can't be 160 holding all three of his kids soaking wet. frank is full of it
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Yes, Frank IS full of it. I watched all of the Larry King interview. I took note of a few things. Among those things I took note of, Frank referred to himself and AEG as "we." Was not his responsibility to take care of his client -- Michael? Who is "we?" Frank and AEG? Sure. . . . . . He completely discounted the implications of Michael's saying he went to bed one night having agreed to ten concerts, and woke up and there were fifty. Frank made it seem like a joke -- like Michael was joking. But he did NOT deny that Michael said that. Michael was NOT joking when he said the same thing to fans. . . . . . Fifty was just too much. Sooooo. . . . . . .

There is a history to this, which I will not discuss here. There is one document that has yet to surface -- Frank's insurance policy on Michael. I hope the payout will be publicized -- how much, and for what?

Oh, and there is NO way Michael could have weighed 160. No way at all. Even soaking wet, holding all three kids, and with lead weights around his ankles. From the rehearsal footage, he looked to be just slightly above "trial weight," which was light as a feather, and dangerous to his health.
 
Victoria83 said:
Yes, Frank IS full of it. I watched all of the Larry King interview. I took note of a few things. Among those things I took note of, Frank referred to himself and AEG as "we." Was not his responsibility to take care of his client -- Michael? Who is "we?" Frank and AEG? Sure. . . . . . He completely discounted the implications of Michael's saying he went to bed one night having agreed to ten concerts, and woke up and there were fifty. Frank made it seem like a joke -- like Michael was joking. But he did NOT deny that Michael said that. Michael was NOT joking when he said the same thing to fans. . . . . . Fifty was just too much. Sooooo. . . . . . .

There is a history to this, which I will not discuss here. There is one document that has yet to surface -- Frank's insurance policy on Michael. I hope the payout will be publicized -- how much, and for what?

Oh, and there is NO way Michael could have weighed 160. No way at all. Even soaking wet, holding all three kids, and with lead weights around his ankles. From the rehearsal footage, he looked to be just slightly above "trial weight," which was light as a feather, and dangerous to his health.
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WTF? :mello: OMG my heart just sunk when I read this and I feel like throwing up! Why would he have his own policy on MJ? What is going on with all these people around Michael???????????????? :mello:
 
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Moddie777 said:
My thoughts exactly! And let us not forget how conviently he tells us in this interview that he's on the Sony/Atv Board.

Is there even a need to say more?
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Right. And HERE it is:

Frank Dileo, on Larry King:

There are a few things that have to get cleared up. I have to make sure the estate understands some of the things that I know. I’ve been appointed to the board of Sony/ATV Music Publishing. So I have a role to play there.

But he says he was Michael's manager? Is not this a conflict of interest? And working for AEG, too? Conflict of interest? When one manages someone's career, the goal is to create wealth for the client, and to support the artistic production. The goal of the corporations is also to create wealth, for themselves. Therefore, the better the contract for the corporation, i.e. to their advantage, the more wealth for them. Conversely, the better the contract for the client, the more it is to his advantage. I can't see how a manager could do both. Was Dileo "for" Michael, or "for" the corporations? Conspiracy? I, for one, believe it. This is extremely serious. Anyone who thinks otherwise, do the logic. Not that complex. . . now is it?

Waiting for Frank to cash in that life-insurance policy he undoubtedly had on Michael. Win/win, for Dileo. In my opinion. . . . . .
 
Victoria83 said:
There is a history to this, which I will not discuss here. There is one document that has yet to surface -- Frank's insurance policy on Michael. I hope the payout will be publicized -- how much, and for what?
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Hmm, Frank's insurance policy on Mike, more details please.
 
Victoria83 said:
Right. And HERE it is:

Frank Dileo, on Larry King:

There are a few things that have to get cleared up. I have to make sure the estate understands some of the things that I know. I’ve been appointed to the board of Sony/ATV Music Publishing. So I have a role to play there.

But he says he was Michael's manager? Is not this a conflict of interest? And working for AEG, too? Conflict of interest? When one manages someone's career, the goal is to create wealth for the client, and to support the artistic production. The goal of the corporations is also to create wealth, for themselves. Therefore, the better the contract for the corporation, i.e. to their advantage, the more wealth for them. Conversely, the better the contract for the client, the more it is to his advantage. I can't see how a manager could do both. Was Dileo "for" Michael, or "for" the corporations? Conspiracy? I, for one, believe it. This is extremely serious. Anyone who thinks otherwise, do the logic. Not that complex. . . now is it?

Waiting for Frank to cash in that life-insurance policy he undoubtedly had on Michael. Win/win, for Dileo. In my opinion. . . . . .
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Yep, I said in an earlier post in this thread my gut feelings just don't trust Frank I don't know why as he was nice back during the trial(was he playing the nice guy though to get back into Michael's life in a sly way...?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lzd7MWl4jY but then didn't he say this about Michael after he was sacked years ago "Quote from Dileo in 1988 after being fired by Michael Jackson
"I have a strong belief in what comes around goes around. It's called Karma, and I hope Michael understands what that means. If he doesn't now, one day he will." - its like a threat! This is a girl's comment on a Yahoo discussion page which I think asks some good questions in relation to Frank DiLeo:


"I believe Frank Dileo (manager) and John Branca (lawyer) Hired Dr. Murray to give Michael Jackson an overdose and kill him in order to gain controll of Michael's estate and Publishing including Michael's songs, and The Beatles catalog which John Branca helped Michael Jackson purchase.
Here's why I believe what I do.
Quote from Dileo in 1988 after being fired by Michael Jackson
"I have a strong belief in what comes around goes around. It's called Karma, and I hope Michael understands what that means. If he doesn't now, one day he will."
I also think it was Dileo who manipulated Michael into feeling he needed Doctor murray around. the bit about Michael telling the AEG guy about his body being like a machine sounds like a line Dileo probably used in convincing Michael he should have this doctor around.
here's another Quote from Dileo-
"You can't just ask Michael straight out to do something," "Michael needs to be stroked. His ego needs to be massaged thoroughly before he'll do anything."
John Branca tried to convince Michael Jackson to share equity in his publishing in 1990. Michael fired him shortly aftarward, but mysteriously, he pops up apparently hired back a week before Michael Jackson died, and shows up two days after his death with a will naming him as an executor of the estate which now puts him in controll of not only Michael's publishing, but the beatles catalog Branca helped Michael purchase. oh yeah, I can tell you who had a copy of the Pepsi fire and probably relesed it to US weekly...Branca's people swiped the tape in the midst of the confusion in 1984 when it happened. They're promoting the death of Michael Jackson in order to sell records. it's sick. the fans are basically giving money to the people that killed their idol. But also, I believe it goes back even further than that with Frank Dileo. Dileo is the guy who sold the Tabloids crazy stories about Michael Jackson in the eighties, like the Hyperbaric chamber story, and stories about him comunicating with Bubbles the chimp in chimp language, and stories about a shrine to Elizabeth Taylor and that heasked Elizabeth taylor to marry him. It was Dileo who originally crafted this Idea in the press that Michael was some kind of freak. I think after he was fired he had a grudge against Michael and kept an eye on what was going on in Michael’s life looking for either a way back into his circle, or a way to get revenge. I think he waited for Michael to piss off other people, like say, former employees and even say the father of the boy from 1993 I think he masterminded the whole pedephelia thing. The guy had the inventiveness. This is a guy who wanted to be a politician at one time, surely he would be capable of creating a kind of smear campaign against Michael Jackson. Here’s an exerpt of a recorded conversation between the father of the 1993 boy’s father, and stepfather. This is the father speaking. This can be found inn a book called Redemption, by Geraldine Hughes- “I’m prepared to move against Michael Jackson. It’s allready set. There are people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I’ve paid them to do it. Everything’s going according to a certain plan that isn’t just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I’ve given him full authority to do that.” Whoever this person is that the father is referring to probably had proximity to Michael Jackson, and the ability to controll people in Michael Jackson’s world. If Frank Dileo was responsible, it would explain why so many former employees gave interviews saying they saw michael jackson do things with children.
Source(s):
myself, the news, michael jackson; the magic and the madness by J. randy taraborrelli, and redemption by Geraldine hughes"
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090720074930AAzYZGS

Is the person who wrote the above on here? Her name is Diana on that Yahoo page. She brings up very valid points IMO.

My own 'feeling' about Frank isn't based on any facts I know, its just a gut feeling right now after reading about him on various sites and watching him talk.
 
how do you know Frank was not misquoted? you're clinging on to a single quote to sustain a murder theory and we don't even know if that quote is made up by the press or not
I understand the problem with the conflict of interests but to say he was involved in murder that's a very serious accusation you need to bring serious proof to sustain your point of view
 
HeleenMJJ said:
Actually I meant both Frank and Karen, referring to people close to Michael. I mean Frank says Michael looked forward to the concerts and was aware of the fact that he should do 50 (as stated in the contract, which Michael was clearly aware of according to Frank). Karen says Michael didnot want to do 50 shows and was ancious of being able to.
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isn't Frank working for AEG? he needs a job so of course he's going to say whatever makes them look better...I do believe Frank loves him as a friend he might thinking that he's not going to harm MJ in any way by saying all these things...since MJ is dead and he can't bring him back, he needs to defend his own interests
I don't know if this is the case I'm just saying...trying to figure out
the "breaking another record" thing would make sense in MJ's case BUT after that he was planning on going on a world tour...50 shows in one place were exhausting it just didn't make sense
 
snowhite said:
how do you know Frank was not misquoted? you're clinging on to a single quote to sustain a murder theory and we don't even know if that quote is made up by the press or not
I understand the problem with the conflict of interests but to say he was involved in murder that's a very serious accusation you need to bring serious proof to sustain your point of view
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This is a speculation forum and we will continue to do just that. There is NO "accusation" of murder, but raising serious questions is not only allowed here, but encouraged, and will continue to be encouraged.

We do not know positively and for sure who was misquoted, when and where. What we DO know is that Michael is not here to defend himself.

The conflict of interest is SERIOUS. Logic will tell you that, and not only intuition or "gut-feelings." ATV is potentially worth millions if not billions. Michael himself said that Sony sabotaged "invincible." His own words. He did not trust Sony. Frank was on the Sony/ATV board. He also worked for AEG. And for Michael? That is an "interesting" three-way connection, when his allegiance should have been only for Michael, his client. Given the context, Dileo's "karma statement" seems more likely than not. This is not rocket-science, in order to be able to speculate on all this. . . . . .
 
snowhite said:
how do you know Frank was not misquoted? you're clinging on to a single quote to sustain a murder theory and we don't even know if that quote is made up by the press or not
I understand the problem with the conflict of interests but to say he was involved in murder that's a very serious accusation you need to bring serious proof to sustain your point of view
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Thanks Victoria83

To Snowhite: I said it is my view based on gut feelings and not fact, I put that on my post. Plus this forum is full of speculation hardly anyone actually has solid facts. I want to know the 'real' truth but I'm not holding my breath that we ever will know it. I just don't want to think Michael died due to murder and it gets covered up as 'drug overdose' I'm not saying he didn't take them but its the perfect cover story for a murder as the general public will buy that story due to his past prescription med probs and so easier to get away with murder, if it is... I strongly believe it might be.
Thing is sometimes theories prove to be true and the people involved laugh it off because its good to make people who are telling the truth look 'crazy' so no one believes them...

Is this conflict of interest something to look into?

I'm interested to know who the 'fans' were who called Frank... and Joe.

Also who is this assistant of Michael's called Michael?

I wonder who did assist Evan Chandler in the smear... If not Frank, who did help...
 
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Goodness, gracious, you guys are all wrong about Frank DiLeo. If I were to listen to you guys, I would think that Michael had absolutely no friends at all, because you guys are suspect of every single person in his life.

I don't believe that Michael was murdered. I believe Murray did something to him but I don't believe he intentionally tried to murder him. I believe he did something stupid that caused his death. Michael didn't have to die. Can't wait until those reports come out so we can put an end to this variety of speculation. Cause the speculation is really getting bizarre, IMO.
 
AllTheLovelyFlowers said:
Goodness, gracious, you guys are all wrong about Frank DiLeo. If I were to listen to you guys, I would think that Michael had absolutely no friends at all, because you guys are suspect of every single person in his life.

I don't believe that Michael was murdered. I believe Murray did something to him but I don't believe he intentionally tried to murder him. I believe he did something stupid that caused his death. Michael didn't have to die. Can't wait until those reports come out so we can put an end to this variety of speculation. Cause the speculation is really getting bizarre, IMO.
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Don't read this bit of the forum then lol :) No seriously that isn't true about me in particular when you say 'suspect of every single person in his life' I'm not at all suspect of everyone, just certain people. Also the 'goodness, gracious' part of your post is quite patronising isn't it. I never say 'I'm right', lets agree to disagree and not patronise each other.

I too can't wait until the official reports are out, not that I believe everything the authorities say either... I just hope that the 'real' truth - whatever it is will come out for Michael's sake and the kids :) I only mean well, I don't want a murder to be covered up. I don't know it definitely is, but 'if' it is a murder I want the people who may have taken part in foul play to be punished and sent down. I'm not holding my breath though...
 
I've never brought this up but I remember vividly when Dileo got fired and I read a quote in an article that referenced him saying about Michael, "He doesn't want me to start talking".

I remember reading that like yesterday/ I was in the grocery store reading it from the aisles cause I went Oooh, what does he mean by that? What are you trying to say?
Don't remember the magazine but I remember that quote.
I don't trust any of them now except Katherine.
 
So in what capacity was/is Frank working for AEG? Do we know if Michael wanted him to be on the board, or if he was appointed by anyone else?
 
something needs clearing up,MJ was packing the night before(23rd) to come to England,wasnt this the same night he was at rehearsals and the last pictures of him surfaced?
the 24th night needs clearing up?
he was waving supposedly on the 25th morning to fans,where were his kids,why go back to sleep,did he even wake up from the night before
 
I don't know in what capacity he worked for AEG. But I have serious issues with Randy Philips being the first person he called when he heard MJ went to the hospital. Why Randy Philips? These people don't care for MJ personally. MJ is their money-making machine.

And then what fan has Dileo's # and what kind of info do they share?

And I don't trust Dileo, never did. Some folks on this board were talking him up etc. But MJ should have kept him out.

You know, there must be somebody in the loop who is 100% on MJ's side, and hopefully they will have the brain power to make all the insipid details about double crossing, deceit and money/power grabbing known.

I just realize more and more how MJ's fame, power and money put him in serious danger.

And if I start to say more people will say I am racist. But one day I'll be saying more, I can't help it.
 
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