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Joe Jackson WAS Able To See Michael

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There is all this talk that Joe tried to talk to Michael and people around Michael were stopping him from doing so etc.......

But I found this report from TSCM (by the way, where is she now?):


Michael Jackson's father, Joseph Jackson, was photographed visiting Michael Jackson's Los Angeles mansion over the weekend reportedly for the celebration of Paris' birthday. He collected several gifts from fans for Paris before entering.

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Source: MJJR.net / Concrete Loop / PCNPHOTOS
http://mjjr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=511&t=997
 
they also met in May. atleast two times. once in this jacksons party and the other in something that looked like a business meeting. kate was with him that day too.
 
^^Yes Im aware of those time. This time here though Joe went into Michael's home.
 
Michael probably did a party for Paris. The family (Katie and brothers) were there too? It seems that only Joe was there. (?) There are no pictures of other family members arrived at the home of Michael that day.
 
Damn them and their talk about interventions....why cant they just leave well enough alone? This is what I dont get. Why do they have to keep smearing his name. If they really loved him..they would leave ish alone...for the kids sake!!
 
Paris birthday
Joe/Katies anniversary
A business meeting at the Beverly Hills hotel

These three visits have been the only documented ones between fam-members I belive since MJ moved to LA from Vegas. I believe MJ allowed Joe in on April 3rd becasue it was Paris birthday. I remember seeing these pictures last year and it was Joe Jackson AND Majestetic there that day.

Cant even remember seeing pictures or hearing familymembers visiting MJ when he stayed in Vegas.Follower fans have openly talked about how MJ never saw his family and MJ went to the anniversary thing out of respect according to them.
 
xthunderx2 said:
Damn them and their talk about interventions....why cant they just leave well enough alone? This is what I dont get. Why do they have to keep smearing his name. If they really loved him..they would leave ish alone...for the kids sake!!
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Its is what it is when it comes to this family you really think they going to say ok Michael was clean at one point of another No he is a drug addict period many from his passed claim this too but if only you all knew the real and what Michael went through it wear tear u apart
 
the family would rather call mj a drug addict and say thats why they couldnt see him rather than admit it was them mj did not want to see and made an effort to stay away from . they would rather blame him than look at themselves. after all mjs gone it doesnt matter if we blame him theres nothing to lose and we can look like the victims. its all about covering their ass and keeping the lie of family unity going
 
Ashtanga said:
And no attempt intervention, as the family says he tried several times. Strange.... :smilerolleyes:
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Because a forceful intervention on the BIRTHDAY of Paris Jackson would have been a GREAT idea?? Way to traumatize a pre-teen.

All of this just goes to show you we simply have no clue at what was going on, pure speculation on either side.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
the family would rather call mj a drug addict and say thats why they couldnt see him rather than admit it was them mj did not want to see and made an effort to stay away from . they would rather blame him than look at themselves. after all mjs gone it doesnt matter if we blame him theres nothing to lose and we can look like the victims. its all about covering their ass and keeping the lie of family unity going
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I wonder if there was anything to even warrant an "intervention"... and like you said, maybe he just plainly didn't want to deal with them a lot, would have been his choice.
 
Modulation Alert said:
Because a forceful intervention on the BIRTHDAY of Paris Jackson would have been a GREAT idea?? Way to traumatize a pre-teen.

All of this just goes to show you we simply have no clue at what was going on, pure speculation on either side.
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No one is saying bust in there and traumatize Paris. but maybe after the kids went to sleep and say Michael can we speak to you? Well, we really don't know what happened as you said. but the point is they said they had no access to MJ and wanted to intervene but could not get to him. I think clearly this was not the case.
 
Modulation Alert said:
All of this just goes to show you we simply have no clue at what was going on, pure speculation on either side.
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Well, we really don't know what happened as you said. but the point is they said they had no access to MJ and wanted to intervene but could not get to him. I think clearly this was not the case.
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We do have a clue of what was going on.

Thome - "I was taking care of Michael's personal affairs...his day to day life."

Michael's friends and business associates said Thome was cutting Michael off from his oldest friends and his own family.

DiLeo even said Thome was telling Michael who to see, and even where to see them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADkNm9JmRxA

If we want some answers, then we have to ask Thome. After all, he was the one taking care of Michael's personal affairs with his friends and family.
 
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just becuz there are no pics of other family members doenst mean they werent there...
 
do you notice how many people accused MJ of being controlled and on drugs when they can't get what they want from him:

Uri, Shamuly ,Latoya ,Janet,Mrs.Bain,Deiter, LMP,Joe,Randy,Rowe,Oxman,Klien,Shcaffel...

it is the easist way to make him lose any respect as a responsible adult or gain any sympathy from others.
 
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just becuz there are no pics of other family members doenst mean they werent there...
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Its a good indication as Im sure that if anyone else was there, those pics would have been seen.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Its a good indication as Im sure that if anyone else was there, those pics would have been seen.
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I noticed that any cameras all all were strictly prohibited from being around the house.

I would assume TMZ staff being around his house with cameras, but maybe guards sent them away or something.

That neighbor who walked up to michael's house two or three times with his camera, i think the third time, the security noticed and asked "is that a camera??", and the security yelled at him saying, "cut that camera off". he told the man more than twice, and seemed quite serious about it.

I wonder if that was Michael's order to have NO CAMERAS around his house.....i don't think it was.
 
Ohood said:
do you notice how many people accused MJ of being controlled and on drugs when they can't get what they want from him:

Uri, Shamuly ,Latoya ,Janet,Mrs.Bain,Deiter, LMP,Joe,Randy,Rowe,Oxman,Klien,Shcaffel...

it is the easist way to make him lose any respect as a responsible adult or gain any sympathy from others.
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Michael was being controlled according to june recorded conversation with michael, michael said thome was trying to keep him from the people he loves and he dose'nt know how much money he has and thome talks to his lawyer etc, and he wanted june help/advise. and he also said thome was mean in the conversation. so janet, latoya,randy, and rowe are not lying, listen to the tape and her for yourself.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
the family would rather call mj a drug addict and say thats why they couldnt see him rather than admit it was them mj did not want to see and made an effort to stay away from . they would rather blame him than look at themselves. after all mjs gone it doesnt matter if we blame him theres nothing to lose and we can look like the victims. its all about covering their ass and keeping the lie of family unity going
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I am glad you are understanding the real if only you knew like i said i can't talk about it on here because many will not believe. At the end of the day god bless mrs.jackson she needs all the love and prayer
 
Ohood said:
do you notice how many people accused MJ of being controlled and on drugs when they can't get what they want from him:

Uri, Shamuly ,Latoya ,Janet,Mrs.Bain,Deiter, LMP,Joe,Randy,Rowe,Oxman,Klien,Shcaffel...

it is the easist way to make him lose any respect as a responsible adult or gain any sympathy from others.
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First of all Michael was not aware of where his money was going around 2005 then in early 2008 he fired mostly all of his staff memebers because he was pissed off when he meant Thome through his Brother Jermaine all hell broke lose for MJ this was there plot lets be-friend a memeber of his family mind you Jermaine wife suppose to be related to Thome i think there are distant cousin i have to ask the person who know what went down more questions. Like i said before MJ problems came during the BAD era because he was done with being controlled and brain washed he sign that contract they felt he belong to them i won't get indept with it because it terrible what they do to you in the music industry. MJ was apart of something epic. Please do not let this Drug addiction claim get to your head they knew his weakness. MJ was set up badly and all these people who ragged him when he was alive was apart of that hole movement too.
 
......and some say that MJ and Joe never saw each other.

Ohood said:
do you notice how many people accused MJ of being controlled and on drugs when they can't get what they want from him:

Uri, Shamuly ,Latoya ,Janet,Mrs.Bain,Deiter, LMP,Joe,Randy,Rowe,Oxman,Klien,Shcaffel...

it is the easist way to make him lose any respect as a responsible adult or gain any sympathy from others.
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Except he did have a problem at the beginning of the time that LMP was with him - Michael made a video statement himself about the allegations in which he mentioned a dependancy on painkillers and his time in rehab, its on youtube.

You know Shmuley, he said in response to fan question on his website that he didn't mean MJ was a drug addict in the sense people have taken it, he said he meant he was over reliant on pain medication and sometimes we have to feel physical pain rather than use medicine to take it away.. :rolleyes:

Being controlled - Michael said that himself.. we have his voice on tape, sounding extremely worried.
 
It was probably a b-party for Paris.
Security around Mike was tightened the days before he died.Tohme himself said he built walls around him.
 
Rockin. said:
You know Shmuley, he said in response to fan question on his website that he didn't mean MJ was a drug addict in the sense people have taken it, he said he meant he was over reliant on pain medication and sometimes we have to feel physical pain rather than use medicine to take it away.. :rolleyes:

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Maybe he hasn't seen footage of himself.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Its a good indication as Im sure that if anyone else was there, those pics would have been seen.
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I don't know if that would totally be the case. There must have been more than Joe & Majestik at the party, but there aren't any pics of Katherine on that day going to the party. I think she would have been invited. I think there are pics of Joe & Maj as they had to wait a few minutes & didn't just zoom in, or the turn around at the house was full of cars so they parked outside.
 
jrsfan said:
I don't know if that would totally be the case. There must have been more than Joe & Majestik at the party, but there aren't any pics of Katherine on that day going to the party. I think she would have been invited. I think there are pics of Joe & Maj as they had to wait a few minutes & didn't just zoom in, or the turn around at the house was full of cars so they parked outside.
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Food for thought. Very possible. Thank you.:clapping:
 
Rockin. said:
......and some say that MJ and Joe never saw each other.



Except he did have a problem at the beginning of the time that LMP was with him - Michael made a video statement himself about the allegations in which he mentioned a dependancy on painkillers and his time in rehab, its on youtube.

You know Shmuley, he said in response to fan question on his website that he didn't mean MJ was a drug addict in the sense people have taken it, he said he meant he was over reliant on pain medication and sometimes we have to feel physical pain rather than use medicine to take it away.. :rolleyes:

Being controlled - Michael said that himself.. we have his voice on tape, sounding extremely worried.
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Thanks for that info on Shumuley, I didn't know that fool backtracked what he said!

I wish MJ never went public and said he had a pain addition problem in 93! Even though he was being honest and needed people (fans) to know the truth, because of this the media never let it die down, those bastards!

You know how some people see it, they think in Hollywood once a drug addict always a drug addict regardless if they get help! I think it's because people really believe in the saying "Sex, Drugs and Rock N roll" a little to much!
 
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